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What Does Memphis Need to do to Get Into the Big 12? 

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@PrimeTimeTravelers
@PrimeTimeTravelers 2 года назад
Memphis has been a great rival for UCF over the years, we'd love to have them in the new Big 12!! Go UCF!!
@taylorrowe2002
@taylorrowe2002 Год назад
As a UCF fan I would much rather Miami, Georgia Tech, and Louisville leave the ACC for the Big 12.
@taylorrowe2002
@taylorrowe2002 Год назад
We play Georgia Tech and Louisville nearly every year. Those are becoming huge rivalries. UCF and GT makes sense as rivals since both are huge Engineering and STEM schools. In fact, for a while UCF was Florida Tech.
@ssgus3682
@ssgus3682 2 года назад
One thing to keep in mind is conference realignment is ultimately approved by the school presidents in each conference. The school presidents care about more than just football. So for example if you are proposing a conference from coast to coast because that would be amazing having football on every time zone in the country that's brilliant for football fans. A school president sees that and says you want me to send my track team on a flight from Orlando Florida on Tuesday to San Diego so they can miss an entire week of school?
@joeykelly5642
@joeykelly5642 2 года назад
That’s a really good point that I don’t think many people are talking about
@carsonc29
@carsonc29 2 года назад
I think all Memphis has to do is wait..they are a quality program, has a major donor with Fed-EX...they arent gonna be in the AAC for very much longer
@joeykelly5642
@joeykelly5642 2 года назад
Winning against Tulsa would be a start
@futurecolemaniii5191
@futurecolemaniii5191 2 года назад
This is the first time Memphis has lost to Tulsa in a long long time...I admit we've got to stay on the winning path, but to nick pic about anything to just slam the Memphis program is just being shallow and not looking at the big picture...Memphis just came off a New Year Six Bowl in 2019 and had Game Day the same year, so I don't buy this nick picking that you are doing...IMHO
@jamiethornton6101
@jamiethornton6101 2 года назад
It makes you wonder if they really care. I mean, they care about their basketball program and I understand it. They play in an NBA arena and have beautiful facilities. Even the basketball practice facilities are top notch. But the football program? Go watch the Tommy West rant after he was fired. When Memphis tried to start turning around it's dreadful football program, he told them these facilities have to be improved if they want to make a difference. I watched the Navy Memphis game last night. You can see how ruined down the Liberty Bowl is. The fact they have FedEx, Autozone, and several other big corporations with a lot of money in that city; and the football program is still playing in that dump has to bring up serious questions. Cincinnati and Houston built new football stadiums or did serious upgrades. Despite having like 8 straight bowl games and a New Years Day 6 bowl a couple of years ago; they still play in that dump. If I'm the Big 12, I would be happy to invite Memphis and Gonzaga in basketball; but I don't know about these guys in football. Not until they show me they will get a new stadium deal done. I mean, it's not like they don't have the financial backing to pay for it. You can't tell me Fred Smith's alma mater can give some money for a new on campus stadium.
@deboisblanc
@deboisblanc 2 года назад
Are you aware that The University of Memphis is the only school in the state, small or large, that does not have a state funded on campus stadium? Don’t fault Memphis for that. And the Liberty Bowl is not a dump. It’s only 50 years old, a baby in the life of a college football stadium. It could use some major renovations and they have been submitted.
@jamiethornton6101
@jamiethornton6101 2 года назад
@@deboisblanc It's a dump. Everyone knows it. Been there and you can see it on tv. Everything is outdated. Anyone who has any sense knows it. It's been written about, even by people in Memphis. John Martin himself called it a dump. ANd that's being nice. All these other schools that got it, got new stadiums built. What's the excuse for Memphis? Especially with that kind of financial backing like Fred Smith. There is no excuse for it. Even Tommy West when he got fired said the same.
@JayRheaBBQ
@JayRheaBBQ 2 года назад
Facilities are more than just the stadium you play in. Are you aware Memphis has put about $50 million into practice facilities and other athletics projects on campus in the past few yrs. I’m a huge proponent for Memphis building a brand new on campus stadium. Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium isn’t a dump. It certainly needs upgrades and a MAJOR UPDATE (which is currently in the design/bid process). The only thing visible on TV is that it needs a good pressure washing in the bench seating areas. When you look at the stadium it is not in bad shape, it has been maintained well, it just needs more since it’s 60 yrs old.
@amac701
@amac701 2 года назад
Memphis has to get the stadium situation resolved. UAB and South Alabama have brand new stadiums. Even San Diego State, with all of California's financial difficulties, has a new stadium opening in 2022. Why not Memphis? No pay, no play.
@deboisblanc
@deboisblanc 2 года назад
@@jamiethornton6101 what school do you pull for? John Martin? What a. Joke. He caught a lot of heat for that interview.
@leebarden688
@leebarden688 2 года назад
I think y'all are getting thing confused...the twenty-seven (27) month notice is part of the American Athletic Conference (AAC), the Big XII bylaws speak of an eighteen (18) month notification - which, I suspect TX and OU will announce intentions to leave after the conclusion of this season (December 2021), effective 30 June 2023...beginning competition in the SEC fall of 2023,
@amac701
@amac701 2 года назад
Everyone, including Memphis fans, knows the Liberty bowl is a problem. You can throw a lot of good money after bad or you can build a new stadium. And you don't need 60,000 capacity, your average attendance is under 40. Whatever the decision, make a decision. Either s*** or get off the pot.
@futurecolemaniii5191
@futurecolemaniii5191 2 года назад
Honestly; I am a Memphis fan and what I see here is sour grapes because Fred Smith and no one else in Memphis met with him...So; he puts out this video basically slamming the Memphis program and talking about our outgoing President into retirement...[grasping for straws] and then talking about what Memphis must do this and Memphis must do that...The fact of the matter is the Big 12 didn't make the best overall decision with the four teams it selected... Many people will disagree and many will agree with what I said, but the bottom line is that politics and many other unforeseen variables play a part in the selection of teams into any Power Conference...Regrettably; the Big 12 has a long history of making unwise decisions...but hopefully they will get it right down the road...Memphis more than deserve to be in the Big 12 just base off its' last 7-8 years of success alone...We've been the best team in Tennessee the last 7 years in a row while putting many players in the NFL who are active right now... I am willing to bet Boise State didn't think a couple of the teams selected were better than them and Boise really hasn't done anything the last eight years in a row...but it is what is...but to put out this shallow video trying to slam the Memphis program will ensure these people never get an interview with anyone close to the Memphis program...This is just one of the draw backs on RU-vid; anyone and everyone can claim they are important or pretend to be...Sad and this old guy should be ashamed of himself...I tell you what; go to the Boise State program and see if they speak with you concerning there inner posture on what they are going to do...The door will get slammed in your face... For those that don't know, the Liberty Bowl is better than most of the Bowl facilities in the AAC and a lot of the Big 12...People keep saying Memphis must be ready...Memphis is already ready and it just so happen the politics fell against Memphis...A couple of the teams that the Big 12 decided to go with over Memphis caught a lot of people by surprise...But things have a way of working themselves out...ESPN along with the PAC 12 may or may not make things very interesting in the next alignment...IMHO
@lorenzohaynes3886
@lorenzohaynes3886 2 года назад
Better than other schools in the AAC doesn’t mean Power 5 quality. Everybody thinks Memphis makes sense. But, if Memphis isn’t on par or getting on par with Power 5 school then they have to move on.
@carsonc29
@carsonc29 2 года назад
I honestly thought the BIG12 would take Memphis over UCF..but they chose UCF..but I do think Memphis will find its way into the BIG12 at some point in the near future..the program has too much upside to be left behind in the AAC
@futurecolemaniii5191
@futurecolemaniii5191 2 года назад
@@lorenzohaynes3886 Memphis has been better than most of the schools in the Big 12 the last 7-8 years in a row...The Big 12 hasn't done anything these last 8-12 years, especially their Flag Ship programs with the exception being Oklahoma...Thats' the reason Texas and Oklahoma left because they saw the handwriting on the wall so to speak... I think you got your mind made up about Memphis and I'm certainly not going to try to change it because at the end of the day, your opinion and my opinion don't mean anything...And just for the record, there are only a few Power 5 teams in the country that are really living up to this Power 5 designation...The rest are just on the gravy train...Because in reality there is Alabama and everybody else with the exception of just a hand full of schools and you should know who they are...IMHO
@jamiethornton6101
@jamiethornton6101 2 года назад
LOL, the Liberty Bowl is a piece of crap and everyone knows it. Everything is outdated. Even the game last night on tv, you can easily see how outdated it is. You have Fred FLUCKING Smith. Build a new damn stadium like Houston did, and Memphis probably gets in over Houston. Check out the Tommy West rant about facilities at Memphis. Enough Said.
@emilianozapata8185
@emilianozapata8185 2 года назад
@@jamiethornton6101 it was more than a stadium that got UH into the Big12. Don't forget academics, endowments, geography and 5 minute proximity to NRG for really big games (5 min from UH campus)
@lastpme
@lastpme 2 года назад
SMU…no way….let’s not bring back the old SWC 🤷🏾‍♂️
@boomtothesooner7426
@boomtothesooner7426 2 года назад
Build a new stadium or renovate the one they have.
@georgeburns1561
@georgeburns1561 2 года назад
That's the plan. Nothing has been said to the contrary. We even have a new stadium naming rights deal as of a week ago. What are these guys talking about?
@bobplunk3697
@bobplunk3697 2 года назад
Plus Ford just announced that their largest plant, building new electric truck, The Lightning, will be built near Memphis. Expecting 38,000 construction jobs, many regular jobs one completed and a projected 250,000 bump in Greater Memphis population. Area is about to boom!
@masinmancy77
@masinmancy77 2 года назад
Man, everyone seems to be obsessing over when, where, who, etc the Big Xii will expand again. But the ink isn't even wet on the deal with the four new teams. I was under the impression the Big Xii wouldn't expand again until the exact dates for the departure of Texas and Oklahoma were set, as well as the exact entry dates for the current AAC teams. That would mean a LOOOONNG time talking about the same topic over and over.
@davidsmoak5149
@davidsmoak5149 2 года назад
Chris, the ink is dry on BYU, Cincy, UCF and UH...and unlike for too many years the Big 12 is being proactive for a change and looking down the road at options rather reacting and being blindsided. We spent several weeks from late-July on CFB landscape and we were ahead of the curve. We have discussed the expansion/realignment much, much less in recent weeks. BUT, the Memphis comments are legit, real and despite the amount of time until a possible Chapter 2...I wouldn't bring this up if it wasn't very real---about Memphis.
@masinmancy77
@masinmancy77 2 года назад
@@davidsmoak5149 sure. It just seems so much talk is focuses on Memphis, SMU, Boise, etc, we didn't even get to enjoy Cincy, UCF, UH and BYU very long. Lol
@tedcarr701
@tedcarr701 2 года назад
@@davidsmoak5149 The guest you had who stepped through has slides regarding conference admission considerations identified a couple of things that might be of concern for Memphis: 1) university president transition; 2) facilities spending commitment; 3) possibly tier 1 research status. Then I think there's the matter of does the addition of Memphis or Boise for that matter affect how big the revenue pie will be thus affecting the other school's slice? I think there are too many unknowns to anticipate a near-term decision on round 2. The passage of time should allow Memphis to clear up their open questions and move past the dragging their feet perception. All the best
@davidsmoak5149
@davidsmoak5149 2 года назад
@@tedcarr701 Yes, there is time, but when Pac 12 TV contract is released or announced and when UT/OU start their exit clock there won't be a delay in getting into the next phase. I hope for Memphis' sake they have some of the infighting or politics ironed out.
@davidsmoak5149
@davidsmoak5149 2 года назад
@@masinmancy77 You're right, it was warp speed and Big 12 reacted so much sooner than anyone could have imagined including Texas and OU and it seemed like the first 2-3 weeks after Texas/OU/SEC story popped was never-ending and then, boom, Big 12 righted the ship. We have enjoyed the addition of BYU, Memphis, UH and UCF fans who have flooded our timeline and the opportunities we have with those programs for interviews with analysts, coaches, AD's, etc.
@ralphwatts8993
@ralphwatts8993 2 года назад
Enjoy your content, but no one in the public or the media, knows what’s going on behind the scene. Our Mayor likened the opportunity to join the Big XII a liking to getting an NBA team. So make no mistake, everyone here knows what’s at stake.🤘🏻🐅🐅
@billl1127
@billl1127 2 года назад
What is it Memphis isn't doing that makes this a relevant topic?
@1redcougar175
@1redcougar175 2 года назад
Why aren’t y’all running the BIG 12? Ya know everything about everything.
@futurecolemaniii5191
@futurecolemaniii5191 2 года назад
PREACH!!!
@mickstevens6443
@mickstevens6443 2 года назад
The FOUR are So Florida, Boise, SMU and San Diego
@andrewbennett3765
@andrewbennett3765 2 года назад
@Texas Gunslinger Memphis is better, but if they aren't ready? You go with USF.
@yader91
@yader91 2 года назад
San Diego wasn't even in the group that was mentioned as considered but didn't make the cut. It's the other 3 you mentioned plus Memphis.
@georgeburns1561
@georgeburns1561 2 года назад
@@andrewbennett3765 What does that even mean... "not ready"? We are hell of a lot more ready than freaking south florida.
@andrewbennett3765
@andrewbennett3765 2 года назад
@@georgeburns1561 Are you? I've seen plenty to say the Liberty Bowl is not an ideal location and needs extensive renovations. Plus the outgoing president seems to be hesitant on the whole thing. I get he's trying to transition but if that's what the university wants, then commit. Houston was added because of the lack of commitment. We dont need idle talk. South Florida at least has a commitment in place to build a stadium on campus as well as just broke ground on a new indoor practice facility. Again, if you read my comment, Memphis is a better fit. Just be ready if and when the call comes. Big 12 isn't going to just wait, they've shown that. There's time for Memphis to commit to this, and I really hope they do. I think they have a fantastic basketball program to add to an already very deep conference and football has been very good the last 10 years.
@lorenzohaynes3886
@lorenzohaynes3886 2 года назад
No to SMU. Absolutely not. I’d take Colorado State over them.
@CCOS1214
@CCOS1214 2 года назад
Hope the big 12 decides 2 go 2 16 teams.. smu, Memphis, Boise and san diego state would be great additions
@mori3972
@mori3972 2 года назад
Should be Memphis, SMU, Boise and Colorado imho
@njdevilku1340
@njdevilku1340 2 года назад
@@mori3972 Need a second CA team instead of smu. San Jose st?
@joeykelly5642
@joeykelly5642 2 года назад
These are my picks too, although I don’t think SMU will get the nod if there are any similarly-qualified teams outside of the Dallas market. The B12 seems to be expanding its geographic reach, and SMU doesn’t add anything there. Also, if Memphis keeps losing to inferior AAC competition it’ll be a hard sell.
@mori3972
@mori3972 2 года назад
@@njdevilku1340 SJSU would be a bad pick. SDSU is the only real option unless you convince university of the pacific to revive their football program or Convice fresno state to come with SDSU. I say Colorado because I don’t really think their membership in the PAC is as solid as some people would like to believe. I could see Wyoming as a good pick too.
@daeers3516
@daeers3516 2 года назад
New look Big12 by the end of the decade East Division - UCF, USF, Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston, Baylor West Division - Boise State, Brigham Young, Wyoming, Colorado State, TCU, SMU
@MrJara1018
@MrJara1018 Год назад
Win a new years 6
@kennardsloan3052
@kennardsloan3052 2 года назад
Wvu. In the acc maybe in 2025
@amac701
@amac701 2 года назад
WVU Brings nothing to The bottom line for the ACC. The ACC teams are not going to take less money just to bring in WVU.
@tautau5504
@tautau5504 2 года назад
Go after ASU and AZ or Colorado instead of memphis
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 2 года назад
Here’s that delusion again
@johnmarkthompson7041
@johnmarkthompson7041 2 года назад
The Big 12 still may lose a couple of teams. Realignment isn’t over. It may be 2-3 years before things move again, but they still likely will.
@carsonc29
@carsonc29 2 года назад
I honestly think the dust is about to settle on conference realignment..at least concerning the BIG12...
@amac701
@amac701 2 года назад
That may happen, and if it does, Memphis needs to be ready. They can't sit around on their hands. Got to be proactive now.
@georgeburns1561
@georgeburns1561 2 года назад
Sorry, I respect the reporting by you guys, but you haven't ACTUALLY SAID anything. Memphis is dragging their feet.... about what? Stadium renovation or OCS? We've already said it will be either/or, not neither. President David Rudd is SUPER invested into sports. He and his predecessor Brad Martin are the reason Memphis football has surpassed Tiger Basketball over the past decade. And that's no small feat. It almost seems as if you found out Memphis is not in, and are slow-walking the reversal of Memphis being a leading candidate for round 2, and making up "issues" to legitimize it. Because you haven't said anything concrete. David Rudd is supposed to do.... "X" that he hasn't done. Fill in THAT blank. And we as a fanbase and the Memphis media community are supposed to be talking BigXII non-stop right now, but we are not? Is THAT your point? We are in the middle of a disappointing (but possibly turning the corner on a VERY young roster) season, and we've been lead down the BigXII primrose path before. Remember 2016? We've got issues we are busy discussing in the here-and-now. Not some football Lucy is holding for us to kick toward Big12 membership. Have we not actually "submitted an application to join"? I seriously doubt that's actually how this works. Say SOMETHING a little less nebulous than "Dragging their feet". Please.
@daeers3516
@daeers3516 2 года назад
It should of been Memphis instead of byu in the first place
@nobodies25
@nobodies25 2 года назад
No
@lorenzohaynes3886
@lorenzohaynes3886 2 года назад
On what planet?
@daeers3516
@daeers3516 2 года назад
@@lorenzohaynes3886 A SMART ONE!
@jamiethornton6101
@jamiethornton6101 2 года назад
BYU is more valuable than Memphis. They get a lot higher tv ratings and $$$$$$. It should've been Memphis over Houston. Texas already has three schools and the University of Houston gets none of the Houston Market. It's all A&M and Longhorns.
@daeers3516
@daeers3516 2 года назад
@@jamiethornton6101 This would not be about tv ratings and money, this is about not a fit and byu is not a good conference member.
@georgeburns1561
@georgeburns1561 2 года назад
I mean, seriously Mr. David, go back and REALLY LISTEN with fresh ears to what y'all said in this video. You may KNOW something beyond "dragging their feet", but you certainly didn't say it. "Dragging their feet" means what? (See my previous post). You know me from my previous e-mails, and my purpose here is genuine. If there is an issue our fan base needs to be aware of, and "pressure needs to be applied" please be more specific.
@lorenzohaynes3886
@lorenzohaynes3886 2 года назад
Go back and look at the conference alignment show they did. When they went into why conferences choose the schools they do. Football is a big deal. But you see that Power 5 schools are much better at not only sports, facilities, and donations. They’re better and more aligned in academics, campuses, academics spending and accreditation’s. There’s a clear line between the group of five and Power 5 on every level. It’s mind blowing.
@georgeburns1561
@georgeburns1561 2 года назад
@@lorenzohaynes3886 And nothing you just listed is relevant to my question to Mr. Smoak. I could rebut every one of your points, but I won't take the time because they aren't relevant. SOMETHING happened (or didn't happen) over the past 2 weeks. You don't "get more aligned academics" in 2 weeks.
@davidsmoak5149
@davidsmoak5149 2 года назад
@@georgeburns1561 I have explained this to you and the audience on today's show and you even confirmed you heard me.
@daeers3516
@daeers3516 2 года назад
@@lorenzohaynes3886Yet the Big 12 still took 4 G5 schools
@bobplunk3697
@bobplunk3697 2 года назад
The so-called Power Five designation, created by the NCAA and television, simply makes the saying “the rich get richer” so true....Quite a few of the Power Fivers could easily be Group of Five without the money given their elite brothers by the networks...
@nobodies25
@nobodies25 2 года назад
Please not Memphis nor Boise, they don’t move the needle
@daeers3516
@daeers3516 2 года назад
Neither does byu, but the Big12 invited them anyway
@ssgus3682
@ssgus3682 2 года назад
There are no more group of five schools that do move the needle. The Big 12 got the best of the best from that conference from that group.
@nobodies25
@nobodies25 2 года назад
Stay at 12
@bobplunk3697
@bobplunk3697 2 года назад
Memphis will “move the needle” in basketball this season further than any current B12 member. FedExForum will be rockin’ on national TV multiple times!
@amac701
@amac701 2 года назад
Football dictates everything, not basketball.
@mickstevens6443
@mickstevens6443 2 года назад
PLEASE NO Memphis
@justinshields7446
@justinshields7446 2 года назад
Why?
@bobplunk3697
@bobplunk3697 2 года назад
Is good football (7 straight bowls) and great basketball (check AP Preseason Poll in next few weeks) isn’t enough?
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