What does the Bible mean by “you are gods” in Psalm 82:6 and John  

We are made in His image and likeness. We are becoming the fullness of Him. This will not be in time, but in eternity. We will always be creation and not the Creator. We will Be like Him in kindness, forgiveness, gentleness, love, joy, peace and patience. These things are the fullness of Him ; the Christ. His people on earth are in a process of sanctification where we choose this fullness. We will never outdo the Creator. ❤

It's amazing how deep the bible is with just a single verse and many ways to interpret depending on whom reads, we barely scratched the surface with it too.

important to note that the "g" in "god's" is a "lowercase g" , so there are human judges but there is still one Judge.

Ah, "gods" is just a title, or term, and does not refer to us being "Gods" at all. Very helpful video.

Good call on allowing the comment section for open discussion.

Clearly the Bible tells you he said man is made in my image, Jesus spoke for you would do greater things in the end times, Yee are God's. Study the seat of the soul,. Clearly we are manifestors written and spoken into existence the same power image, one must crucify his flesh sacrificing the desires there of! It's the real teachings of yah❤

Yes, the Almighty is the God 🙏❤️ the only God.

Thank you, You are most helpful to me in understanding our God.

This one was very helpful. I have heard many sermons and read many commentaries, but this brought the clarity I was in need of.

According to some cults they want to say that we’re equal to God.

Amen! Great Teaching Pastor Nelson! HalleluJAH!

Amen, I needed the reminder of the meaning behind this verse. ❤ 🙏

Thank you for that clear-cut understanding

Thanks for the info!!!

Thanks for another great video.

This video is clear and straight. Thank you for this work. Your concluding point is quite emphatic. People need this lesson.

Thanks for this explanation and tackling the tough questions at times!

Excellent

Great explanation!

Amen, amen, and amen you are the one and only true God. ☝️🙏☝️

I’ve been wondering for a long time what this verse meant. Thank you

This was really good brother. Thank you and God bless you 🙏🏼✝️

The Hebrew word for god just means power. Anyone or anything that was given power over other people in the Bible was considered a power, or a god. That’s why the Lord is referred to as the Most high God or sometimes as the only god. He is the true source of power. That doesn’t mean he is the only one that can be considered a power. That’s because he gives his power to others and has a multi-seated throne according to Revelation . There’s no reason to mysticize the word God or to misrepresent what “Mormons”, or members of the Church of Jesus Christ, believe about them.

Thanks that was a really sound answer.

God has a Heavenly counsel they are the sons of God (spiritual beings) He (God) made them before He created us, before He created the earth. “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements-surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Job 38:4‭-‬7 ESV Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the Lord. Job 2:1 ESV Psalm 83 talking about His heavenly council, His heavenly Host, the sons of God.

thanks . It's clear

Thankyou

For Mormons, it doesn't matter what the Bible says because they think it is corrupt. For them, it comes down to a feeling, a "burning in the bosom," which is entirely subjective. The Bible explicitly warns against this kind of subjectivity in Jeremiah 17:9, and Paul explicitly warned against a new/different "gospel" in Galatians 1:8-9. But since Mormons defer to their feeling instead of what God has said in the Bible, they disregard the Word of God. It's very sad and tragic.

Thanks

We are the sons of the most high

I guess this will also be connected to the day we believers will judge the world, because we had faith in Christ, and even the angels as the Apostle Paul told us in 1 Corinthians 6:2-3.

Amen

Well put together. 😅

Every born again person is god = children of light

In psalms 82 the gods it is referring to is the gods of other nations. In Deuteronomy chapter32:8-9 it talks about the most high dividing up the nations and Israel is the lords inheritance. In the New Testament with Jesus quoting psalms 82 interpreting the gods as human judges is a later reinterpretation of the passage

These are definitely not human judges, they are supernatural beings. Psalm 89 places these elohim in the skies. I haven't seen Jewish elders up there. In john, Jesus is quoting psalm 82 not referring to the group he was speaking to as "you". See Michael Heiser's work on this connection. It makes perfect sense

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Great job brother. I hope many People lost in cults will find your message.

I was reading Psalms earlier and left with the impression that it was talking about people in position of power and authority i.e judges. I subscribe to that main view because of the overall context of the passage. The passage talks about people who were not being just where it came to the wicked and the fatherless. Who would have the role of one who deals with justice? A judge. And then the passage even ends with God saying he is THE judge above everyone else. So it's like here are these men with power to the extent that they're like gods but because of their evil, one day they'll be taken down several pegs and humbled like the rest of us. Although the bit in the first verse talks about a divine council - I think we must remember this is in a book of poetry. It won't always be literal. I think it's simply metaphorical language to describe these powerful men as 'gods'. Now, on the point about it possibly being angelic beings...I don't think that argument is strong enough because angels do not have authority to dole out justice on earth. Either they're demons rebelling against God until the Day of judgement or angels who are ministering spirits/messengers of God. On the argument from Mormons et al about "little gods" or lesser gods - that's already debunked based on scripture in which God says he alone is God deserving of worship and glory. Oftentimes where "gods" are mentioned, its negative and usually refers to false man-made gods.

I auppose it is relative to being a "Lord" (ie, lord or lady) meaning authority.

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the original lie was "ye shall not surely die".

Can you do a video explaining Philippians 2:5-11 Romans 8:29

I wonder if this was partly meant as a stumbling block, as many use it for false teaching, trying to say that "we, humans, literally are gods".

Unfortunately a lot of charismatics push and claim that "we" are gods and can do the things He can/could.

Genesis 3:22 God says that man has become like one of us to know good and evil and yes God tell us tell I not say you are like gods JOHN 10:34 amen ✅👍💯🦔🦅

This is the correct answer, unfortunately this does not clear the issue of Blasphemy.

What do you say to a brother in Christ who ties the Greek words “kosmos”, the topic you speak of here, “gods”, and the Bible verses which refer to “you are kings and priests” together for some yet to be defined personal role in heaven?

Having well explained the two possible meaning of the term 'gods' in Psalm 82 - an explanation that clearly shows the word 'God/god has a range of meanings, the Pastor concludes by contradicting himself. Jesus in jOhn 10 :24-36 clearly shows Jesus to be identifying himself as the promised mesiah and calls himself the Son of God, not God. The whole point is that the Jews were claiming that he was callimg himself a God/god and Jesus made it clear that he could call himself Soin of God.

Probably becoming judges is what being gods is. Liuke 19:18The second servant came and said, ‘Master, your mina has made five minas.’ 19And to this one he said, ‘You shall have authority over five cities.’Luke 22:29 And I bestow on you a kingdom, just as My Father has bestowed one on Me,

Cap I'm a God he made me in in his likeness therefore he is a God wake up and realize your true potential ❤️💪🙏

Thank you so much for going back to the original lie the serpent told. The same lie satan told still finds its way in this present day and age. Man will never attain divinity. No! The moment we think we think we do, man begins to worship man. God is a Deity and only YAWEH deserves worship. May God bless your ministry in Jesus name. Amen 🙏

The reality of this subject is that Jesus married humanity and divinity in His incarnation, death and resurrection. We have become partakers of the divine nature. Corporately speaking, together, we are the actual body of Christ. Whatever He is, so we are also. Pretty simple.

So happy you are carrying forward the Divine Council worldview. I finally understand my destiny.

All religions are worldly and the lack knowledge is why most people will never see the truth. And you listening to men rather than listening for the Holy Spirit is what’s keeping you on the fence!

I'm trying to figure out when this happened. The "gods" we see in ancient history all around the world, were the fallen angels, when God saw them being unjust he condemned them all, but when did this happen?

I don't know but genesis 3:22 states different? Tho we are cursed there is LIGHT, we must acknowledge GOD and leave our idols(money) and start serving GOD of Life(JESUS)..I mean GOD did say to serve >>>THE LORD

Seems pretty strait forward. They were originally called Sons of the Most High by God, as well as Gods. The Septuagint translation changes this to Angels and the Masoretic called them rulers.

6:17 it's weird that the gnostic view of Jesus being the serpent in Genesis is validated at 6:17 because instead of being antithetical it is the same message

Lastly, I say this: I am the god of me. Thee God, want me to be the god of me. What we think, what we eat, what we watch on TV, how we conduct ourselves, all the way to how we follow Jesus, STARTS WITH US!! When you give your god power over to others, then THEY will become your earthly god. This is how Jim Jones succeeded. We are gods, and are representing God. For myself, no one will ever change this for me. God= Good. We are all Goodm until we give this good to EVIL.

Good question. What "made-up" answer did you come up with this time?

In the book of Genesis states, the man has become like one of us, meaning the man has become like a god.

Very good presentation. Have you considered John 8:41 compared to John 10:30-33? The Jews also claimed that God was their Father. This is evidence that they were not truly about to stone Him because of His claim of being one with the Father. It was their excuse for doing so, but not their real motivation. Matthew 27:18 tells us that envy was their motivation.

So guy walked up to me in Walmart today asking if I know that I’m a god..? I told him show me where in the Bible does it say I am a god and not a child of god ?

God is speaking to the angels in His heavenly council..or heavenly host. They were allotted over the nations. 70 nations. But they mislead the men, so He was telling them they would die as men. Because they came down and bread with human women according to genesis 6.

Jesus said He and the Father were one He is in the Father and the Father is in Him and We and Him are one we in Him and He in us. We are his coheirs and He is coheir with the Father, all He has we have and all the Father has He has.

Helpful, except where he misquotes psalm 82:6 @ 5:28. When he shows John 10:34-36

ok, then in Genesis 6:1-4 , When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. who're the sons of God, king's sons on the ground or angels in the sky?

My question is why did they translate it gods . Which cause so much confusion. Could have just said judges or rulers .

Not to incite a debate or disagreement, but @ 0.35 you are not quoting Psalms 82:6. You are actually quoting Psalms 82:6 AND 7. The only reason I bring this up is because when quoting from the scriptures, I think we should be truthful and transparent as possible.

What a bummer. I thought I was gonna get force powers and flying abilities and supers powers and stuff.

God's eternity is present in each and every single one of us. Now, while on earth there are temporary rulers who govern imperfectly for a certain period of time the perfect realm in Heaven is being ruled perfectly and endlessly by God. Jesus came to show us how to live a life full of love by selflessly giving His life for us and with that besides the fact that He is God incarnated He also became the best mortal example of goodness. If on earth we vote for political leaders who try to falsely present themselves as good, how much more should we give not only our vote, but also our devotion to the one who represents goodness and love as a Heavenly ruler. The realm of darkness in the Bible is also described with properties of endlessnes but where suffering and and evilness rule eternally in absence of love. In Christ we are beloved children of God, outside of his love we become slaves of fear and unbelief. That is why the cross is eternal symbol of the price paid for our salvation from the enslavement of sin where fear is unescapeable. Therefore, have faith in Christ and rejoice for the good Shepard is coming back soon.

You missed it like i did until the Spirit of Truth revealed it to me.

Question. Elohim is used in respective or/and plural forms. If it was used as the plural form. How can Jesus be Yewhaw/ Johova? After a few verses, Jesus claims that "I am that I am" as the god. Could you please explain that to me? Can you get the literal translation of Psalam 82:6. Since English doesn't have a plural form of "you" , the pronoun becomes a problem.

I tell you that the universe would be a pile of ash if we were gods

God named gods only those directly received his words,Moises,Abraham, Jesus, Deut, 18:18-19 /John 10:34-35,not all pastors, theologians, christians,

If you understand the gods of the old testament are type 2+ (at least interstellar) ET Elohim that were responsible for hybridizing/genetically engineering the most advanced hominid about 250,000 years ago giving birth to the first Adamu from one of the goddesses wombs to create a workforce into a garden to altar delivery service. We do this like gods when we domesticate animals and adjust their genetics for our benefit. A direct example of this is that we are hybridizing our DNA with pigs, human-pig chimeras, to grow replacement organs for humans. Now with the latest starship launch yesterday we are seeing what it really means to be like the gods who travelled through space and lived tens of thousands of years according to ancient tablets. The father Jesus speaks of is the one true source, found from going within, that Paul describes as the source of the cosmos and everything in it, that in which we live and move and have our being and are all offspring: even the "gods".

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are achildren of the most High. 7 But ye shall adie like men, and fall like one of the princes. 8 Arise, O God, ajudge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations. This is talking about all born again believers. ‘I said, you are gods’? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came-and Scripture cannot be broken- 36 do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, The KEY verse is verse 35.....If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came.... The word makes you a god. God is GOD (Capital G) We are small g. That means we are offsprings of God. We came out of God in Genesis. If we come out of Banana, we will be called banana. If we come out of God, we become god john 1: The word incarnated became man. The word became flesh and dwelt among man. Therefore to conclude the word is supposed to make us become god. Remember the word is Life and Spirit. When we meditate, read the word, it transforms us into the likeness and image of God. Romans 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. So we also have the mind of christ. 1 Corinthians 2:16 “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ We cannot defeat the devil in our flesh but when we operate as a god.

The serpent may have lied in Genesis 3:4 but not in Genesis 3:5 as confirmed in Genesis 3:22.

So hes saying hes god as an authority but he says that him and the father are one, and many people use this verse to say he is God? So is he just an authority with high status or is he God?

The second view makes no sense and is counter to the culture of the time. The problem with Christians (I am a Christian) is that they only want to read the Bible in English and assume that only the thought pattern that exists today is the same thought pattern in ancient culture. That’s one of the biggest problems with us Christians today and why many Christians fall away from the faith when going to seminary. Learn a bit of Hebrew and ancient culture and you won’t come away with ideas like the second choice is the better choice which would then really complicate your understanding of God.

El is singular and Elohim is plural and it is also a plural title for the one true El. Psalms 82 speaks of both men and angels as Elohim. We know both are judges and rulers because of how there ends come "Human gods will die like men and angel gods will fall like one of the "Princes" (princes are common term for Angel rulers) This is also why Isaiah said that The Lord would punish the Hosts of Heaven and the Kings of the Earth Isaiah 24:21 This is also why Y'Shua called Ha Satan the "Prince" (Angel ruler) of this world and said nothing of Yahweh would be in Him. However it is scary that Christians do not know that Satan and his angels all pose as gods and answer prayers! Most Christians pray to the Lord in the name of His enemy. Isaiah 65:11 (read it in Hebrew) But we all have the chance to do our Lord right. I refuse to call Him by the names of Ba'eli anymore!

So, I understand the governing aspect of "some" humans on earth having positions of authority that are god like (little g on purpose) but I think this interpretation comes up short of the full context. Jesus seems to be taking a broader perspective. He is pointing out what the Psalmist was saying that we are "all" little g gods (little elohims as the Psalmist says in the Hebrew). We are limited finite yet "autonomous" beings created by the uncreated infinite God (The "I AM"). We are not I AM status nor will we be ever. From Psalm 82:6, is not the author there speaking of ALL of humanity being "sons of God" in the image sense (little g god status), all of us, not just a few who have "judge" like authority? Jesus was claiming God status (or I AM status - see also John 8:58-59) in the "fleshly" sense in John 8, i.e.God coming down out of heaven and taking on human flesh and form (John 1:1,14). Jesus was claiming He had authority as THE “Son of God,” i.e. I AM status, fully on par with God and this is why they wanted to kill Him. If he had simply said, “I am a little g god like you” they would have agreed with Jesus. We are autonomous beings (little g gods), created in the Almighty's image (Gen 1:26-27), placed within the limitations and parameters of the physical and spiritual realities God has created for us on this earth (Gen 1:1). That’s why we need the big G God, the I AM, Jesus in the flesh to redeem us from our sin. Little g god status does nothing for us before a holy and righteous God who created us. Am I wrong?

The word 'Elohim' simply means 'might one' or 'mighty ones'. So, the judges of Israel were mighty ones because they had the power to judge the people. The children of God when made immortal at Jesus' return will also be mighty ones, according to Ps 149:5-9 where judgement is again a feature. Jesus said that his father had committed all judgement unto him, which would make him a mighty one like those in Ps 82:6. This didn't mean that Jesus was calling himself Almighty God as the Jews assumed, but rather that he was only the son of God as he admitted in Jo 10:36. When he said 'I and my father are one', he was referring to one in purpose rather than being equal with God. This is shown by what he says before this about the sheep, where both he and his father have the same control over them.

In the ancient world, people could be elevated to "god" status. Kings were referred to as gods (see Solomon for example). The king of israel has been referred to as "god". This is not specific to the bible. Hercules for example. People could become gods, gods could become humanish, etc...

It is the devine councel was resposible in creating humans, let us make man.........

Even as a 15 yo Ik this is wrong first the word used for god in the Hebrew Bible is Elohim which is used for god but also used for angles and other things of that nature and even if it was true how are you going to take this one thing from the Old Testament and say it’s right even tho Jesus himself constantly tells gentiles to not worship any other god but him as he said “worship me as you would the father” just needed to clear that up god bless my friend🙏❤️✝️

If Jesus is seen as using the "human rulers" interpretation, then that downplays his divinity, right before he up-plays it by saying he and the Father are one. IOW it's a nonsensical interpretation. For that reason, I don't think that interpretation is in view here. This deserves another look-what if Jesus was using the divine council interpretation?

Jesus holds the answer of the gods/elohim of Psalm 82 in John 10. Israel are the "gods" in Psalm 82, the "gods" are human NOT nonhuman meaning angels/spirit beings. Israel was unique from the pagan nations that surrounded them, Israel had the law of God, 10 commandment, prophets and a Levitical priesthood. Since Israel had the law of God, it put Israel in the position of being "gods," becuase God chose them, Israel was God's chosen people. They were chosen because of Christ. Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)," 1. >>>>"I said, “You are gods” >>>>>ONCE by the God (Father) in Psalm 82. Aspaph is the Author and Psalmist of Psalm 82. Prophets of the Old Testament like Asaph the "word of the Lord" would come to Prophets like Asaph. Prophets were the "Voice" of God. God (Father) would communicate His words through the prophets, God does that here in Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;">>>>>>>>Israel, Psalm 82 uses the word "all". This clearly is not about a bunch of watchers/super angels of a divine council. The Psalms were written to and for Israel. 2. SECOND time Jesus in John 10: 34 Repeats >>>> ‘I said, “You are gods”

So the bible says there are multiple gods? Crazy

Ah, but humans do become elohim… read 1 Samuel 28.12-13. Here the dead Samuel is called “elohim” because the disembodied Samuel is a spirit living in the spiritual realm as would all spiritual beings, i.e., elohim.

It means the 12 tribes of the children of Israel are the flesh and blood manifestation of God and through them all nations of the first covenant will be redeemed and blessed. according to the promises. Christ’s ministry was all about redeeming the children of Israel and reuniting the Jews with the other nine tribes along with their Old Testament neighbours….who were/still are being destroyed by the invading “families of the north”. Jeremiah 25:9 KJV [9] Behold, I will send and take all the families of the north, saith the Lord, and Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will bring them against this land, and against the inhabitants thereof, and against all these nations round about, and will utterly destroy them, and make them an astonishment, and an hissing, and perpetual desolations. They only need to keep two of the Ten Commandments and honour them as one law given by Christ. Matthew 22:37-40 KJV [37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. [38] This is the first and great commandment. [39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. [40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

You misinterpreted i and my father are one

I believe that God, the creator of everything, is not the only God in heaven. He is the most important one. The divine council is in heaven and is made up of other gods. They are of the spiritual beings and not man. They were given domain over mankind after the tower of Babble. Our creator God will take over these lessor gods and judge them in the future. They will all fall with the evil angels into hell. Being immortals, they will not die like us humans but suffer like all evil godly beings. The God that we worship today is a merciful God and not the demanding one of the Old Testament. This war that is going on is not of flesh and bones but of spiritual being in heaven. He will make judgment over all heaven and earth. That is why we will have a new heaven and earth. The old must go to make true the new heaven and earth.

1. There is no need to create anything that has been created (any action to do so would be vanity). 2. We never reach full divinity because we “die like man “/ humans/ mortals. 3. We are created totally Imago Dei 4. Elohim is a masculine gender word, Eloi would be more appropriate. 5. A little more biblical history and critical thinking may be applicable to this passage.

Psalms 89 proves the human judges theory incorrect. The divine assembly is in the heavens not on earth. There are no human judges ruling in the skies. Let the heavens praise your wonders, O LORD, your faithfulness in the assembly of the holy ones! For who in the skies can be compared to the LORD? Who among the heavenly beings is like the LORD, a God greatly to be feared in the council of the holy ones, and awesome above all who are around him? Psalms 89:5-7

Sounds like you’re talking about the Jehovah witnesses

Oh, I think you missed the entire point of Jesus referencing Ps 82 to the religious authorities that wanted to have Him stoned to death. Psalm 82 is talking about the God given authority of the Levitical priesthood that had the power of life or death over the people, thus they were in essence little 'gods'. These priests had direct access to God's will through the Urim and Thummim but abused their authority. Look at Jesus' rebuke of the religious authority here: ~ Matthew 23; “So you testify against yourselves, that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of the 'GUILT OF YOUR FATHERS'. You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell? Now compare with ~ Psalm 82; "How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Vindicate the weak and fatherless; Do justice to the afflicted and destitute. Rescue the weak and needy. Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked. They do not know, nor do they understand. They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are shaken. I said, “You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High nevertheless, you will die like men." Even though Psalm 82 is written in poetic (song) form it still is important to note that angels are immortal and cannot die. ~ Zechariah 7; Then the word of the LORD of hosts came to me, saying, say to all the people of the land and to the ''PRIESTS', ...Dispense true justice and practice kindness and compassion each to his brother; and do not oppress the widow or the orphan, the stranger or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another. But they refused to pay attention and turned a stubborn shoulder and stopped their ears from hearing.

He’s definitely not talking to humans when he calls them gods. That makes absolutely no sense. These are the super natural beings referred to in Deuteronomy 32. Refer 7:02 to Micheal Heiser & Tim Mackey on both Psalms 82 & Deuteronomy 33

GotQuestions is wrong about men never becoming gods (coupled with a dig at Mormon belief). Ephesians 4:13 Romans 8:16,17 Revelation 3:21 Deuteronomy 10:17