There were unlawful unions during Jesus' days. They even do exist today! Only the Church with authority to bind and lose in heaven and on earth can determine their validity!!! Pure wisdom of God!!
@carolzappa1804 As former instructed protestants they had the letter only, ehich could not satisfy them, now they have found the Holy Spirit who dwells in the Catholic Church since the year 33AD!!!
This is one of the best bible study videos I have ever seen, amazingly produced and incredibly insightful and helpful! Please keep doing these! Praise God thank you 🙏🏾
If they were baptized, then, they are fornicators! Civil marriage is not binding before God!!! Following the same principle, protestant marriage is not valid either!!!
All this theology is well and good. I wish the church had more practical solutions and steps for this broken world where because of sin, spouses may be trapped in marriages where there is physical,, mental abuse, violence, and infidelity. To think that there is no way out can lead to a serious spiral of suffering, bitterness and depression. And then, where is the joy ?
Thats why you should think thrice before you say "yes" to Mr o Mrs right 'at the moment'!!! And say happily "Till death do us part" who many never remember as saying!!!
The Church does not obligate an abused spouse to remain subject to the abuse. That's why separation and even civil divorce in such cases is legitimate. However, that doesn't automatically mean the marriage can be annulled.
Two marvelous converts who formerly were speaking against the Catholicism but now correcting their old ways and telling the protestants please friends, come to the TRUTH - the Catholic Church.. Miraculous things happened by the grace of GOD.
The Catholic Church interprets Matthew 19:9 in a different way to the way most Protestants interpret it. It reads (in the New Vulgate) “Dico autem vobis, quia quicumque dimiserit uxorem suam, nisi ob fornicationem, el aliam duxerit, moechatur…” Monsignor Knox translates this as “And I tell you that he who puts away his wife, not for any unfaithfulness of hers, and so marries another, commits adultery…” His notes read as follows: “The apparent exception made here in connection with unfaithfulness, not recognised in Mark or Luke, or by St. Paul, has been variously explained. It is to be observed that in any case our Lord is speaking of the man who puts away his innocent wife in order to marry another (this is often the force of the Hebrew “and”). He considers the case of the guilty husband with the innocent wife, and that of the innocent husband with the guilty wife, not that of a man who has a guilty wife and himself wants a change of partners. This it would be unsafe to infer that the husband has a right to remarry.” Now, most Protestant Churches interpret Matthew 19:9 in the widest possible way. They take the view that if either party to a marriage commits adultery, then the innocent party has the right to bring the marriage to an end and to marry another. This interpretation found its way into the common law before the arrival of the current “no fault” divorce. If a couple had decided that they wanted a divorce, then the husband’s solicitor would arrange a “Brighton Divorce” that is to say, the husband would be booked into an hotel in Brighton, and a young lady would be observed by a private detective entering his room, and would stand outside and report that “sounds of intimacy were observed”. Normally, this meant that the husband bounced up and down on the bed for a while, then the young lady left, once the detective had recorded this. This provided the necessary evidence of the husband’s adultery and the wife was then free to proceed with the divorce, which the husband would not contest and they would then both be free to remarry. Most Protestant Churches now take the view that if the civil law grants a divorce, they will also recognise it and also grant a right to remarry. There is another interpretation of Matthew 19:9 which some Catholic scholars put forward. They say that the reference to “except for fornication” refers to the case of a couple who are living together who are not married (living in fornication) and, in that case, ending the relationship is not only permissible but a requirement, as far as the Church is concerned. So, take the case of St. Augustine, who was living with a woman to whom he was not married and with whom he had fathered a child. He was free to bring that relationship to an end, since it was not a marriage, but “fornication” and so bringing it to an end was a requirement. The Church of the day would have then considered that he was free to marry, since he was, as far as the Church was concerned, never married.
I wish they would have actually wrapped up what the true teaching is, I could have at least sent this to ppl to help them understand but now there is no conclusion to this video.
The bible gives some reasons to divorce or leaves the other spouse. The Lord NEVER gave permission to remarry as long as the spouse is living. 1 Corinthians 7:39 Paul told the same thing on remarriage after divorce. Paul said only the death of a spouse can someone get remarry. We, as Catholic or Protestant, will always make excuses to disobey scriptures. You don't need a Dr. degree in theology to read Matthew, Mark, and 1 Corinthians on remarriage after divorce. Our Lord and Paul said it's ADULTERY. Living in adultery, you can't enter the Kingdom of God.
@@matthewbrown8056 The Catholic church is the voice of God Every bishop and ordained priest is sent by the Holy Spirit as Jesus was sent by the Father " the one who listens to you, listens to me and the one who has sent me"! 1 Timothy 3:15!
@dvdortiz9031 YES, I love the Catholic Church! The verse below that you quoted in verse 16 said preached unto the Gentiles. 1 Corinthians 7:39 Paul preached unto the Gentiles that a spouse can't remarry until the other spouse is dead. I will always consider the Catholic church authority in decision-making, but I do know what I read in scriptures also. Thanks
Just want to tell you that a Church Annulment can be a real blessing. The process is somewhat grueling (a lot of paperwork) and requires tremendous patience (I think mine took nearly two years). My husband and I were of two different non-Christian religions. We were in a dysfunctional relationship for 18 years. (I am intentionally being somewhat vague.) When I was in the process of getting a divorce, I had a spectacular conversion experience and gave my life to Jesus. Jesus led me to the Catholic Church. I was received into the Church a year and a half later, and felt a desire to become a nun. I was told I would need a Church Annulment to enter a religious order, so I applied for that. Meanwhile I kept researching and visiting various religious communities and searching for the right one. I was granted the Annulment, as I said, but it turned out eventually that I was unable to enter religious life due to health. Instead I have remained single, celibate, and very fervent in my Catholic Faith. I’ve been Catholic for 33 years. I’m just giving you my story so you can be aware that every case is different and is carefully considered by the authorities in charge of annulments. Everyone is expected to wait patiently while abstaining from marital relations, even those who are happily remarried, with a legitimate reason for having gotten divorced. It’s unfair to condemn the process because perhaps you know someone who you don’t think should have been granted an annulment. The paperwork is confidential, and it’s not likely you will ever know all the personal details of another person’s failed relationship. I ask you to be a bit merciful, and not to pass judgement on the individuals or on the process, but to have confidence in the Church and in the power the Lord has given her to bind and to loose.
Moses gave laws that regulated divorce and remarriage, polygamy and slavery all sin. In Hebrews 3:13 we are told that sin hardens hearts. In the rest of that chapter and the next, we are to repent of our sin and turn to Christ
Prior to Moses permitting divorce, some husbands might have been severely mistreating their wives through abandonment, abuse, neglect and leaving wives without recourse out of a complete dependence upon their husbands. This hardness of the husband’s heart to sacrifice for his wife would be the basis for permitting divorce in attempts to help protect the wife from being place in a helpless situation.
@@JonOchoa Israel was a tribal community, so If something happened to the husband such as death or being maimed or divorce, the wife always had her family of origin to fall back on or her eldest sons to take care of her. Divorce was only granted to the man per Deuteronomy 24:1-4 and it had everything to do with the engaged couple being called wife and husband. Israel was to be holy to God and He is the One who instituted marriage as one man one woman for life (Genesis 2:24). Jesus actually calls anyone who divorces and remarries adulterers in Luke 16:18; Mark 10:11,12 and Matthew 5:32. (His only exception is the Israelite custom of divorcing the engaged woman now called a wife for sexual immorality. We see in Deuteronomy 22:23-25 that an engaged woman is considered as a wife and even the husband of a wife who has not consummated the marriage was not even put into battle for fear his life would be taken before the wedding ceremony - Deuteronomy 20:3.). Marriage was held in the highest esteem with even the engaged couple now considered married and held to the Laws of the 7th commandment for Protestants and the 6th commandment for RCC. Joseph was considering divorcing Mary the mother of Jesus for sexual immorality making her ineligible to marry another man but Joseph would be free to marry another woman. Jesus came to restore all things and one of them was marriage for life with no divorce for either the husband or wife and it is adultery per His authority and His very words being a command - 1 Corinthians 7:10,11.
@@kmountain5533 Your reasoning and own opinion on Joseph considering divorcing the blessed virgin mother for adultery is perverse and blatantly wrong!!
It would have been fitting to start with the sign of the cross and a short prayer before breaking the WORD and Bread of life with people. Just my thoughts.
Matthew 5:32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
Is her first husband still alive? If her husband had never been married before marrying her if you marry it will be adultery this per Christ’s very words in Luke 16:18 and Matthew 5:32 with Paul saying that any woman who remarries with her husband still alive is an adulteress- 1 Corinthians 7:39.
@@OPiguy35 I would be adulterous for marrying a divorced woman, I did not know her while she was married? I understand if I knew her and had my eye on her while she was married, that is grounds for adultery, but meeting her after she has been long divorced is also adultery? See... This is why I ask.
Consider how critical our words are to God. For God, His Word is Truth and Himself. Likewise, our great end is to have our word be truth and in union with God. For a divorced person, their word was “I promise to be faithful to you in good times and bad,” yet seeking to remarry a different person is an act against their word as it stands. Therefore, bluntly stated, why trust a liar? Of course with the Lord, there is mercy and reconciliation, especially for those of us who do not know the wrong we do, but one should seek an annulment more so than a divorce to determine whether or not their initial word/vow was true and should be held accountable or perhaps it was null/empty and s/he is actually free to marry. So the answer is it depends. How true were the words of the divorcee? If the divorcee meant their vow, then a man shouldn’t pursue a relation with her. If the divorcee’s vow is determined to be null by the Church, then a man can pursue a marriage with her.
What do you do if you are suffering horrendous narcissistic behaviour and violence?! I very much doubt God would want that marriage to continue. Yes, you could remain celibate and no bad thing, but equally, if someone you come to know, and fall in love with shows you what marriage truly is, you have to say no and live the rest of your life lonely? Many 2nd marriages have lasted decades until death. In todays world, many people marry the wrong person, so is that "sorry, tough too late by the church? Obviously, you dont get divorced just because you simply lust after someone else. that's sinful and demonic. But so many people have gone into marriage unknowingly being aware they are not truly and properly compatible and love is not enough to keep a marriage going because love changes in depth and breath in a beautiful way but never like it was at the beginning. Thoughts? I was protestant now doing RCIA and married 20 years. My husband is stubbornly agnostic. So, will my marriage stack up once i am Catholic? He is doing the Alpha course and ibpray each day. God knocks down brock by brick his gnosticism, but i can't be certain my husband will see the light. Then what? He is though baptised.
@@panes840 Congratulations on coming into the Church! One beautiful teaching you might glimpse in your RCIA that may help shed light on your concern on whether or not God wants tough marriages to continue is the Marriage of the Lamb of God. The perfect model of marriage is found in Jesus Christ’s marriage to the Church, which he consummates when the Blood and Water gushes forth from his side in the Cross as a fount of mercy for us (after He has suffered our horrendous narcissistic behavior and violence). This is because when Jesus lays his life down for us, he is planting his seed of Divine Mercy in us, the complete giving of himself to his bride, even in the face of unjust cruelty till death. And when we willingly permit his divine mercy to transform our unforgiving livelihood to his unfathomable forgiveness, a new heavenly person is created, which is precisely the goal of True Marriage: get spouses to Heaven and create children for Heaven. God wants marriage to continue in the good times and the bad, for better, and especially for worse, because love converts hate, sacrificial sacramental love saves the world. Now if one didn’t know what marriage truly was the first time s/he got married, the Church has been permitted by God to determine if the marriage was null and thus grant annulments, which recognize that the first marriage wasn’t fully a true marriage (a complete giving of oneself to the spouse), permitting one to truly give their self in Sacramental Marriage. In the event the Church doesn’t grant an annulment and holiness demands one lives a celibate and lonely life, embrace the holiness with God who experiences a terrible loneliness when any single one of his children remain away from him, especially in times when you or your spouse has willingly remained away from God. May God bless you 🙏
@dvdortiz9031 Please , I ask with kindness, do not assume! I am married. Still am 20 years. We have been together 25. I ask my question based on what I see in the world and what I see happening around me. I'm afraid I would never tell a woman to take the hitting, the hospital visits, to put up with a man's sleeping around, his refusal to seek help for this or any other horrendous affliction, potentially also bringing back a sexually transmitted disease! This is why we have women refuges. The vow " for better for worse" surely is nuanced, and thus, guidance from a priest must be sought.... if you ask any other devout question, then there is a danger of a hundred different theological interpretations. It is NOT God's plan for any human being to receive a beating and see death prematurely. It is definitely NOT God's plan for innocent children to be traumatised, potentially receive counselling, and go through all this and their mother just because of a vow!!! Personally, I would go to my church, get guidance, move out, forgive my space spiritually , and get a legal divorce, but accept I am divorced in the eyes of God and remain celibate. Sorry, but fanatical answers to incredibly dangerous marriage situations, which I believe very easily are given out of love, yes, but also a man made view and interpretation of scripture! If we are all that niave, to think some scripture hasn't been "tinkered with," then we are beyond gullible. Do I think much has been tinkered? No, probably less than say 3%, but we all can not say undeniably without a shadow of a doubt that has not happened. Does tgis stop me from believing in God? Absolutely not or converting to Catholicism? Absolutely not. I'm still very much enjoying my RCIA. Very much love, Dr. Bergsma. Amazing chap, and I am learning a great deal. So, this is me asking difficult questions. I have a BSc in Psychology and Health Sciences to and that is why I ask such questions along with questioning the world as I see and witness it by others Not because I have a mental or emotional personal problem myself concerning my own marriage. It's been hard, my marriage, and I definitely married the wrong man, but that's for entirely different reasons. Thank you.
?? A very Rich Catholic Man, who never Married takes advantage of a Married woman, when her and her husband had a disagreement, she goes and gets drunk, then this rich Catholic man commits adultery with her and has her move in with him and he pays to get her divorced , then after a few months marries her, what do you think about this?
First of all, you are very wrong and ignorant of history!!! Second, the scenario is very stoopid! There is not divorce in the Catholic church! The Church lost 33% of its fold when a rich, lecherous king wanted the Church to grant him divorce to marry another woman!! Saints were killed because of it in century XVI!!! Mr. Lecherous separated from the church and declared himself head if the English church!!! He severed several of his lovers' heads after that!!
@@dvdortiz9031 I guess the Catholic church where I live must not follow your theology, have a few Catholics in this area who have gotten divorced and remarried, maybe if the priest got married they wouldnt molest children.
I see so many kids grow up only to continue to be dependent on their parents because they don’t get an education, don’t have jobs, drug addiction, mental illness, or plain laziness. Parents are not all to blame. Family finances can be part of the blame. I witness this in a lot of family lives that I know. It causes couples to think twice about having kids.
Nope. Parents are often to blame. One hundred years ago a lot of people were dirt poor, under much more difficult circumstances, but managed to produce generations of moral hard working children. People today are spoiled and narcissistic.
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Marriage is now legally impossible. The wife can divorce her husband at any time - and take his house and money and children. If he objects, he goes to prison. Jesus would not have recognized such an arrangement as marriage.
Only in the last several decades has divorce and remarriage been allowed in most Protestant churches. Back when I was a kid in the 70s my mother was kicked out of the church for being remarried. My aunt told her it was a sin, my oldest sister confronted her and the Lord sent me to tell her it was a sin.
Don't let anyone fool you, the Protestant Revolt was built on the desire for divorce. He may have listed 95 things on that declaration, but those were extra sticks thrown on the fire that was lit from breaking away based on adultery
Christ commands no divorce UNLESS sexual immorality. Matthew 19:9. In the Catholic Bible they retranslate it to say “unlawful” but that’s an intentional misinterpretation. The Greek is pornei that’s where we get the word porn. In the Latin vulgate it is fornicatio, which is where we get fornicate. They mistranslate this in other verses to be consistent which makes those scriptures make no sense. May the marriage bed be undefiled. Hebrews 13:4. To accept adultery is to defile the marital bed. If your right hand causes you to sin cut it off Matthew 5:30 Any Christian should allow for divorce under this one circumstance it’s not a Protestant thing it’s a Christian thing from the mouth of Christ.
