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Name: Cheryl
Age: 24
Pronouns: she/her
Race: Black (African)
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Stan List:
Ult of Ults: Monsta X, Red Velvet, Ateez, Everglow, Wonho
Ults: SHINee BTS, MCND, SKZ, Billlie, Cherry Bullet, ITZY, (G) I-dle, SECRET NUMBER,
Semi Ults: AOA, TWICE, AESPA, BLACKPINK, MAMAMOO, SUPERM, NCT 127, KARD, DREAMCATCHER, IZ*ONE, TAEMIN, SEVENTEEN
Frequently listened to groups: ALEXA, CHUNGHA, YURI, EUNBI, YURI, YENA, KEP1ER-ish, CLC, ONEUS, DAY6, ONEWE, CIGNATURE, PURPLE KISS, 3YE, NU'EST, PIXY, KEY, KAI, STAYC, HYUNA, DAWN, WOODZ, SUNMI, WEEEKLY, ASTRO, GOT, NCT (Remaining Units), KINGDOM, ROCKET PUNCH, FROMIS_9, AOA, OH MY GIRL, GOT7, WJSN, BAEKHYUN, GWSN, APINK, THE ROSE, TRI.BE, EXO, WAYV, STAY C
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0:00 preview and intro
1:19 about video and disclaimer
2:21 pnation
3:19 sm town
6:05 yg
7:11 jellyfish
8:38 pledis
10:31 cube
12:09 jyp
13:28 top media
14:34 hybe
16:09 conclusion and outro

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@teezeeo.o
@teezeeo.o 2 года назад
The way SM overworks Mark is ridiculous. I'm actually surprised that they didn't make him debut in aespa as well 💀
@auroraj161
@auroraj161 2 года назад
@@yooyoyoyoyo243 😂😂😂💀
@itoo4884
@itoo4884 2 года назад
Stahhhp😅
@nelliebellie2222
@nelliebellie2222 2 года назад
@obika tomechi Lmao Im saying 💀
@sooyaasaelim_
@sooyaasaelim_ 2 года назад
Mærk
@sooyaasaelim_
@sooyaasaelim_ 2 года назад
@obika tomechi NAURR 💀😭
@gunny4394
@gunny4394 2 года назад
Sm is not only mismanaging Chinese idols they are mismanaging almost all of their foreign idols except mark. Actually not even mark because they are overworking that poor guy. 😭
@fat74k
@fat74k 2 года назад
Fr, I showed bunch of SuperM and NCT song to my friend and she was like Why this guy is everywhere
@gunny4394
@gunny4394 2 года назад
@Tiffany's pink card IKR?! He just finished the promotions of child and now he will be promoting glitch. They need to let the guy take rest.
@noname-ze4hs
@noname-ze4hs 2 года назад
@@gunny4394 is glitch new song nct?
@fruitjuiceandzerocoke
@fruitjuiceandzerocoke 2 года назад
@@noname-ze4hs Dream's comeback
@gunny4394
@gunny4394 2 года назад
@@noname-ze4hs dreams New comeback dropping this month! Show it support and love 💚
@junpi8562
@junpi8562 2 года назад
Seventeen's own families had to club together to buy them in-ear monitors because Pledis wouldn't supply them. Seventeen have really survived against all odds, thanks to the fact that the group members are able to do so much for the group.
@inseungwoonamewestan1196
@inseungwoonamewestan1196 2 года назад
club?? maybe you mean come
@junpi8562
@junpi8562 2 года назад
@@inseungwoonamewestan1196 "club together" means combine money.
@alefiyajamali6604
@alefiyajamali6604 Год назад
Yes.
@jabitche7032
@jabitche7032 Год назад
pledis really had faith in seventeen. they were almost filing for bankruptcy when seventeen debuted.
@MIXEDNUTSSS
@MIXEDNUTSSS Год назад
I was wondering if they're still able to caught up with their After School sunbaenims, one of the batch 2009 legendary groups
@rae3781
@rae3781 2 года назад
I'm worried about Ningning right now. It looks like she's going to be the next Chinese idol to be horribly managed and neglected by SM. She's already getting tons of hate from the nationalism and racism in Korea and the company is basically doing jack shit to protect her. She's only 19 years old and having to deal with all this.
@junpi8562
@junpi8562 2 года назад
I didn't realize she was still a teenager. I hope she's getting a lot of love from her members, it must be a very isolating and scary experience to go through.
@kimy6954
@kimy6954 2 года назад
I mean as a company what can they do about haters online ? they can’t tape peoples mouths, the fans have to also play their role and stop the hate if they see it online, we’re not called fans for no reason and just to be there for the fun time, if we claim to support these artists we have to protect them from the negativity if we see it. Also the issue with Ningning is bigger than just haters online, a lot of koreans still have a bad mentality towards foreigners and will involve political matters in these tiny irrelevant things, it’s not like the company can brainwash them and implement new ideologies in their brains all over again, it’s just a bad side about the korean society unfortunately
@이런-아
@이런-아 2 года назад
plus i know the girls on top line up was scuffed
@rae3781
@rae3781 2 года назад
@@이런-아 Yeah there's definitely a reason why she was left out of the new activities. Karina and Winter in GOT the Beat, Giselle doing ZOO with NCT. She's got so much potential but with the way she's being treated I just worry about her :/
@이런-아
@이런-아 2 года назад
@@rae3781 no the thing was I saw winter and was like did he do drugs or something you have a group with some of the best vocalist you've had the privilege to train and then you have winter and karina(no hate for all yall toxic stans) then I was like so yall got another one of the best vocalist yall ever produced siting at home doing nothing I mean I know you hate Chinese people for some reason but how the fuck did you come up with this and this is from my Korean ass standpoint
@teatimewiththeia
@teatimewiththeia 2 года назад
Pledis only started managing Seventeen decently AFTER they got famous. Back in the days the members managed themselves to get anything done. For example Seungkwan used to call shows and broadcasting channels and begged them for interviews and time slots to perform instead of the actual managers doing their job. I also believe Going Seventeen is only so big cause the members put all their time, sweat and blood into it and even hired an outside team.
@Avi.joyyy12
@Avi.joyyy12 2 года назад
The boys didn’t even have in ears, which are really important when performing. They had to use mere earphones when performing!!
@SyedaTasnia
@SyedaTasnia 2 года назад
@@Avi.joyyy12 didn't they have to by their own in ears?
@diyarenjan3756
@diyarenjan3756 2 года назад
@@erikascencen pledis doesn’t have any control over bts though? they just control seventeen now (nuest recently disbanded)
@Avi.joyyy12
@Avi.joyyy12 2 года назад
@@SyedaTasnia I don’t remember if they bought their own or if Pledis did once they were bringing in profit.
@watashiwakirayoshikage2584
@watashiwakirayoshikage2584 2 года назад
@@SyedaTasnia yes they did, Seventeen's family chipped money in so they could buy in ears for the boys
@beca_violet1448
@beca_violet1448 Год назад
HEAVY ON JYPE VOCAL TRAINING Seungmin went out of the company, looked for a vocal coach, payed for it himself and then took I.N with him because he was not satisfied with the vocal training there.
@MissAnglewolf
@MissAnglewolf 2 года назад
Not to mention SM's treatment of Ten..Dude is Thai yet they send him to China, Dude is the best dancer in NCT and the take MONTHS getting him to do anything with dance.
@juansuarez0126
@juansuarez0126 2 года назад
I think Shotaro and Jisung are better, but yes SM give us more dance content from Ten.
@Alister.x
@Alister.x 2 года назад
Shotaro is the best dancer in SM but the way they overwork him (ten) they need to stop
@MissAnglewolf
@MissAnglewolf 2 года назад
@@juansuarez0126 You are objectively wrong when it comes to Jisung being better than Ten Shotaro as professional dance is on Ten's level. Jisung has not got the polish nor versatility nor flexibility or control of Ten... it's laughable to compare the two
@MissAnglewolf
@MissAnglewolf 2 года назад
@@Alister.x Your wrong Ten and Shotaro are roughly equal with Ten being more versatile and controlled than Shotaro
@Rockstar11111
@Rockstar11111 2 года назад
@@Alister.x best dancer is sm?? Cmon better than taemin seriously?
@krittikabiswas8500
@krittikabiswas8500 2 года назад
Well HYBE's obsession with money has reached therapy level of unhealthy obsession.
@Sakurablossom1998
@Sakurablossom1998 2 года назад
That's why I think there's no company stan here?
@jiminbangtan28
@jiminbangtan28 2 года назад
Yesss. The scedule freaking vlive for the members!!! And they dont let them talk about what they wanna talk and control even their hairstyle!!! I am glad bts is more free to do what they want but poor txt and enhypen are so controlled
@heenadhurwe_ce325
@heenadhurwe_ce325 2 года назад
@@jiminbangtan28 are u really txt fan ? But txt is not someone who will tolerate bullshit.they don't get hairstyle if they don't like.bang pd liked a hairstyle for beomgyu but beomgyu said no.yeonjun pink hair was his own idea ,after seeing fan artwork.txt also said that they don't regret choosing big hit.enhypen is managed by belift, not by hybe or big hit.
@bigfoodstyle5531
@bigfoodstyle5531 2 года назад
HYBE really is weird 😭 I’ve noticed how they began to milk BTS. Which like…we get it that they’re the most popular, but Jesus Christ. Leave those boys and their names alone for a second
@saraa.
@saraa. 2 года назад
how is it different than any other company?
@victoriab637
@victoriab637 2 года назад
"If you walk into JYP with no skills you'll walk out with no skills" 💀
@jultchai
@jultchai 2 года назад
No, because the fact that I forget that YG has boy groups and soloists on a regular basis tells you a lot.
@jultchai
@jultchai 2 года назад
I deadass didn't know Ikon existed before kingdom:lw. By normal company standards, they'd be concidered Blackpink's brother group. But no, we gotta suck at our job
@redhollow9079
@redhollow9079 2 года назад
Yg has a soloist?
@jultchai
@jultchai 2 года назад
@@redhollow9079 lmao exactly. I know of Somi and Woodz. THEBLACKLABEL is a subsidiary of yg
@Chideera
@Chideera 2 года назад
@@jultchai woodz is not under yg. He's under Yuehua, same Company as Everglow, Yena & Tempest. YG has Solo artist such as in Winner, like Mino & Yoon. Also Bobby from Ikon.
@jultchai
@jultchai 2 года назад
@@Chideera right, my bad
@blackcat6374
@blackcat6374 2 года назад
_"Cube ent. Is a company that _*_cannot_*_ company..._ *_Then why they company?"_* I'm going to get this tattooed Ps. about the JYPE part: THANK YOU. As someone who is part of the fanbase of several of the groups managed by that company I could not agree more. Specially when it comes to the minor part (me still being a minor); I could not imagine the fear and disgust some of their young artists, who are technically STILL KIDS, have when knowing that there are pictures out there of them in "provocative" clothes or videos of them doing "provocative" moves and that some random 40 years old creep has easy access to them. _dISgUstIng_
@jackr1886
@jackr1886 2 года назад
Definitely agree on the minor issue. I’m freshly an adult, 18, and I can’t even imagine being in that position as an adult, let alone a kid. When I discover that both WEi and Tempest debuted with only adult members, I could not be happier since minors should not be in the public eye like that.
@blackcat6374
@blackcat6374 2 года назад
@@jackr1886 Agreed. Yes, minors can be talented; yes, they can work as hard as an adult but it doesn't mean that they _should_ . Mentally, emotionally, it is really damaging (a lot of them can't even comprehend yet what it means to be exposed to the public like that). It is the company's job, as the adults, to protect them and in these situations they are doing an awful job.
@nerd23x
@nerd23x 2 года назад
I hate how they debuted LIGHTSUM with the cute concept. I thought they were going with a gamer concept or girl crush as their logo didn't seem cute at all. Another wasted group!!
@Everyonesaytouswoo.ah3987
@Everyonesaytouswoo.ah3987 Год назад
The fact that the that dude did a nude photo shoot is creepy….
@rae3781
@rae3781 2 года назад
THANK YOU for mentioning the control HYBE has over BTS. Armies are always like "They aren't controlled by the company! They're completely free with everything they're doing!" Girl they are MILKING BTS for all the money and power they can get. I mean, how can you deny this when they are doing everything with BTS? Popular music singles that will top no matter what, a webtoon their fans will read no matter what, literal products that have nothing to do with music, NFTs. With BTS being cultural ambassadors of Korea and standing with the UN with stuff like helping the environment, having NFTs goes against what they stand for. So... Why are they a part of this? Because HYBE has control over them.
@teresa18870
@teresa18870 2 года назад
No because this! Someone tell me why I was minding my business on wattpad and saw that Hybe had an account?????
@moonyflora
@moonyflora 2 года назад
And a lot of armys need to learn that just because bts are involved in music production and writing their lyrics doesn’t mean they’re free from everything that the company wants them to do you know what I mean?
@mxm7647
@mxm7647 2 года назад
Sometimes I wish BTS would pull a Highlight and move out. They'd still be insanely popular since they are BTS. And the best-case scenario would be them being able to keep the name.
@julieralte7421
@julieralte7421 2 года назад
BTS are grown adults , what bighit is doing is excessive sometimes , when they were young it’s very possible they are being controlled too much , but these days it’s very clear that BTS are old enough and confident enough to talk back if they feel they are being missused or being controlled by the company , in fact out of all the kpop active rn, BTS negative comment against their company would have the most negative effect
@syugas
@syugas 2 года назад
cudn't agree more
@l1smm309
@l1smm309 2 года назад
TBH. Both YG and CUBE are terrible at making albums. The fact that the only groups that seem to have survived and put out normal amounts of music, are the ones carried by idol producers, speaks VOLUMES.
@shaziamumtaz8414
@shaziamumtaz8414 2 года назад
I don't about cube but yg music is good but their amount is very less
@l1smm309
@l1smm309 2 года назад
@@shaziamumtaz8414 groups like CLC and LIGHTSUM too get bare amounts of music.
@aksamerinregi934
@aksamerinregi934 2 года назад
Can I know how yg is terrible at making albums? I don't think so
@l1smm309
@l1smm309 2 года назад
@@aksamerinregi934 I mean for their artists that do not (generally) self procduce. If we're looking at quantity alone, BP and treasure have both released bare amounts music since their respective debuts, compared to their industry counterparts from other companies. (And the quantity over quality argument _doesn't work_ here. Looking at their title tracks alone they have used the same. exact. formula. for years now.) It is getting beyond repetetive and boring. At least to me personally.
@EclesysGalaxy
@EclesysGalaxy 2 года назад
@@l1smm309 I swear, all TREASURE'S singles, could've been BLACKPINK's tracks! especially BOY and JIKJIN
@ChicaBuenosAires
@ChicaBuenosAires 2 года назад
For Cube, I believe their original founders knew what they were doing as Beast, 4Minute and Hyuna were insanely popular and competed head to head with big3 groups. After they left around CLC's debut, those that took over clearly didn't and still don't have a fucking clue on how to bring their insanely talented groups the success they deserve
@alberttarruella826
@alberttarruella826 2 года назад
frr like i have to say it, cube has the most talented ppl and trainees but, as cheryl said, they don't know how to company :V
@Nameless_mixes
@Nameless_mixes 2 года назад
Wait… Suddenly everything wrong with Cube being a septic tank makes sense… It seems like a lot of where Cube went wrong was in 2015…
@ChicaBuenosAires
@ChicaBuenosAires 2 года назад
@@Nameless_mixes yeah more than half of Cube was acquired by a random company who fired the CEO/founder. Their first move was to disband 4Minute so that should give you an idea on how stupid they are
@melodyuniverse1382
@melodyuniverse1382 2 года назад
IHQ took over cube and chaos start
@WonHakWoon
@WonHakWoon 11 месяцев назад
Hyuna was the only member in 4Minute the company and the fans cared about, which is why I hated Hyuna so much.
@DianaMartinez-fl1pj
@DianaMartinez-fl1pj 2 года назад
About the training in JYPE, it's pretty clear if you see Twice, for example. Some members just recently switched their singing technique, and you can hear their improvement, during their last concerts, for example, and their individual covers. But they're six years into their careers, they should've been good since they debuted!!!
@nightingale4786
@nightingale4786 2 года назад
the poor girls have been so overworked, the fact that they can even find time for self-improvement is impressive to me. jyp really doesn't respect them in the slightest TT
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 года назад
But at the same time different members improved in different areas over the time. We can't really say they haven't managed to develop at all especially if we consider their schedule since 2019.
@talentedmoomoo2460
@talentedmoomoo2460 2 года назад
I'm so tired of people bringing up TWICE improvement. TWICE were never bad. Go watch their lives from their rookie years they were just as good as now. Especially their famous Cheer up mr removed was overhated for no reason. The thing is we always judge TWICE vocals by their sub vocalists then compare them to the vocal line of other groups. Like if we are talking about Momo being bad, why would you compare her to Red Velvet vocal line? I see so much people finding excuses for their faves when they can't sing live properly but when it's TWICE this reason become invalid?? Like are we really going to act like the infamous encore couldn't have been better with a low pitch song? I'm not saying TWICE are vocal queens but they definitely had an above average vocal line, and an above average dance line for 3rd gen (I do think they should stop rapping tho). I tried to not drop any names of groups but I can think of many groups that had worse live stages than TWICE
@DianaMartinez-fl1pj
@DianaMartinez-fl1pj 2 года назад
​@@talentedmoomoo2460 I'm not saying they were bad, but I do not think they were as good as they are now, especially talking about technique, which is something that the company is resonsable for. I know Jihyo, Nayeon and Jeongyeon are very good, but even Jihyo had a lot of issues with breathing back in the day. And about the other members, I know they shouldn't be compared to other vocal lines and all of that, but they have improved so much! That's impossible to deny.
@davidwow867
@davidwow867 2 года назад
And they were considered the best of the best trainees from their survival show!! The girls are talented but they could be even more talented!
@Avi.joyyy12
@Avi.joyyy12 2 года назад
It still baffles me how Pledis had Pristin, an amazing group that even won Rookie of the Year, then disbanded them after two releases and a subunit. As for Cube, they need to be out of business, ASAP👏🏾👏🏾
@wendyreyes970
@wendyreyes970 2 года назад
it's ironic how the facts are there yet there are still people defending some of these companies, especially jype and hybe like why are people going out of their way to speak for these companies?
@km9107
@km9107 2 года назад
cuz often times they think an attack on the company equates to an attack towards their idols.
@farfar8773
@farfar8773 2 года назад
Are u dumb or just naive? Thats basic PR works. Do u really think everyone who commented on kpop shiete in youtube or any kind of media that u can read online are all their fans? Nah, theres some company workers there. It applied to every companies out there
@xcore914
@xcore914 2 года назад
@@farfar8773 If you use Twitter you'd know that most of the people aren't workers but kpop fans defending these companies sadly
@farfar8773
@farfar8773 2 года назад
@@xcore914 lmao. Those fan accounts with big followers that u can see in twitter belongs to the company. Usually they are the first one who make a move and give a command to their followers
@serenagreen.909
@serenagreen.909 2 года назад
Yes. They always want to defend their fav company to prove their fav is best in the whole world. Especially army defending hype.
@winter_gaeul_fan1207
@winter_gaeul_fan1207 2 года назад
I can't agree with you more, Cheryl. Cube is the worst kpop company ever imo, they have such talented groups like (G)I-dle or Pentagon that aren't only good idols they make good music because Cube doesn't even help them. In terms of promotion they also suck, they never made good promotions for CLC and BtoB who are also very good groups and deserved better. And finally, in terms of idol and scandals management... I have literally no words.
@mxm7647
@mxm7647 2 года назад
I have to politely disagree with the "worst company ever " title. I think that one goes to the likes of TS Ent. and Media Line Ent.
@OnewBiased
@OnewBiased 2 года назад
Cube is great at talent scouting, managing & promoting them... not so much (flashback to 4Minute, Beast & G.Na, to name a few)
@sabreenasnow119
@sabreenasnow119 2 года назад
worried about lightsum now:(
@jeisytudu3477
@jeisytudu3477 Год назад
Ever heard of TN entertainment 💀the worst ever if it wasn't for them B.A.P could be so much successful
@FlowerArtzy24
@FlowerArtzy24 2 года назад
I just wished toxic armies weren’t so entitled when it comes to anything bc the day BTS speaks up the the bs that they are doing everything starts to become crazy to them…
@yunjin910
@yunjin910 2 года назад
I feel like army's are so protective over anything including bts to the point they don't even realize it's negatively affecting bts themselves
@FlowerArtzy24
@FlowerArtzy24 2 года назад
@@yunjin910 agreed it’s sad to see how they are hurting the group when there could be a chance that they just want to help from something that could be serious but since they been handling themselves weakly the issues that could affect both the fandom and the group can be ignored and I hope hype can do something about this since sometimes it goes out of hand
@martinhoDKB
@martinhoDKB 2 года назад
And that is the only reason why i`m not Army while i still love BTS and their music the fandom in there is so pathetic and braindead like "BTS IS THE ONLY BEST GROUP IN KPOP INDUSTRY" and all that bullshit there is while there are so many good group`s to listen to.
@FlowerArtzy24
@FlowerArtzy24 2 года назад
@@martinhoDKB as an army myself I can understand what you are dealing with since there is just so many of us it’s just hard to over see anyone when they that BTS are my ults but I’m going to say “BTS are the best group ever” and state as a fact since it’s just an opinion every one can have their opinions and it’s sad that people can’t handle it :(( if you know what I mean
@bigfoodstyle5531
@bigfoodstyle5531 2 года назад
I’m literally waiting for the day BTS leaves that company and just starts telling us everything. Ik they have a lot to say and have seen a lot. I mean it’s been like 8 or 9 years? The day they decide to leave and talk. I feel like BTS would leave the company and pull a Got7 where they’re still a group.
@emmapierelli1748
@emmapierelli1748 2 года назад
About SM, I remember in 2007 when Super Junior were promoting don't don, one of the members (Heechul) literally coughed up blood from overworking and the staff didn't do anything about it, and the worst part is that they were making a comeback after they had a pretty bad accident, I'm not suprised that Lee Sooman gave them their own label.
@08oliviachatterjee35
@08oliviachatterjee35 2 года назад
I think that was Heechul.
@emmapierelli1748
@emmapierelli1748 2 года назад
@@08oliviachatterjee35 Yeah It was him.
@attorney_rosa
@attorney_rosa 2 года назад
I swear heechul's mistreatment is rarely talked about by kpop stan. The guy coughed blood and had him to do hard choreography. Now his leg has permanent injury bcs it's not healed properly
@attorney_rosa
@attorney_rosa 2 года назад
Anyway you could say heechul name instead of "one of the members". Everybody know him yet many don't know about his mistreatments
@4everlastingstarlight
@4everlastingstarlight 2 года назад
I'm ashamed that I thought Jellyfish ent. was actually a good company before. They looked so good when there was only VIXX but later everyone found out that was because VIXX were managing themselves. Members produced for themselves, promoted themselves and protected from scandals for years but in the smallest scandal jelpi failed at protecting their arguably biggest money maker group. I'm not even talking about gugudan and verivery because jelpi just proved they suck at managing groups
@WonHakWoon
@WonHakWoon 11 месяцев назад
And now VIXX is on life support 🥺🥺
@nick3805
@nick3805 11 месяцев назад
​@@WonHakWoonI'd liken it more to a Paper Tiger. I'm pretty sure that VIXX the group doesn't really exist anymore. Which is a shame. I feel like the only reason why VIXX Disbandment wasn't announced yet is for Jellyfish being able to say "Well, we have a rookie boy group. Verivery, they are called! Do you know them? ... no? Weeeell, we also have VIXX. Do you remember VIXX? Yes?! They are really great, aren't they?"
@zoesucre6311
@zoesucre6311 2 года назад
I personally believe that Seventeen doing as well as they are right now is because the members handle a vast majority of their organization themselves.
@prettybeast6411
@prettybeast6411 9 месяцев назад
Yeah like I'm so relieved that they are 13 in numbers, and not just music but also talented in variety so that they could promote themselves, just hope fromis9 don't disband like nuest
@samyangnoodles902
@samyangnoodles902 2 года назад
"the father that wet to the store to get milk" IM CRYING SKKKSKKSKSSK
@Ash.e__Mayy
@Ash.e__Mayy 2 года назад
wet?🤨 sus
@GIGI-bi3hi
@GIGI-bi3hi 2 года назад
Not only does BTS concern me, but TXT too. Like seriously the difference in their treatment is obvious. Like why the f*** does MOA have to tell HYBE to give TXT better security and protection, when that should have already been provided in the first place.
@aa-pj4vz
@aa-pj4vz 2 года назад
imagine training at jyp for 7 years, sweating and overworking your ass just to debut with song about zero coke that sounds like it was made by a 15 year old from atlanta.
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 года назад
I recommend watching some videos by Korean explaining the lyrics and concept. Yeah, the song isn't that deep but it's totally not that bland as international fans say.
@ThisUserPassedAway
@ThisUserPassedAway 2 года назад
*ShOOg ZOom GoOd*
@namu4380
@namu4380 2 года назад
@@AB-yk2pq I know the song is not that deep at all ..it's something like "it's just a trailer , and u gonna see more amazing ".... But words like shoog shoog just puts me off and sounds laughable
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 года назад
@@namu4380 They're sounds in comic books in South Korea.
@namu4380
@namu4380 2 года назад
@@AB-yk2pq I know it's like "shoog shoog " , "broom broom " etc but still it sounds so weird •-•
@paytonhenrich7376
@paytonhenrich7376 2 года назад
if pledis is the dad that went to the store for milk and never came does that make hybe the vengeful step dad who hates you because you aren't his kid? 🤔
@GleeChan
@GleeChan 2 года назад
CUBE can't do anything right. I honestly believe from all the behind-the-scene stuff I've seen and read that the ONLY reason I-DLE is successful is because Soyeon is making all the decisions and she (and her team) are doing all the leg work to get things going. CUBE themselves don't do anything but stand out of her way...and thank God for that. CUBE can't even stand up for their #1 money makers (Hyuna at one point, now Soojin) and would rather throw away money than "look bad". CUBE will put all their effort into a new girl group when they have an already existing one that they aren't doing ANYTHING with that already has a fanbase. Not only will they not support their own groups, but they treat those within it so bad that they leave. Sorn, Elkie, and Yujin (to an extent) are gone... meaning so is CLC. No announcement; no care. No shade on Lightsum, but when the behind-the-scenes footage for Vanilla came out, you can tell these girls were pushed up the line before they were ready. They had the talent, but were clearly scared and overwhelmed. It's remarkable they've cooped as well as they have last year and I really hope someone within their crew is a "Soyeon". In summery, if CUBE have to get off their asses to do anything, it's too much.
@nelliebellie2222
@nelliebellie2222 2 года назад
I strongly agree tbh after seeing Soyeon on My Teenage Girl if she wasnt an artist in G(idle) I would rather see her manage Cube Entertainment I am positive she is more capable than the ones in office rn XD
@saint9468
@saint9468 2 года назад
I’m scared for Lightsum cause they are very young. I’m thinking that it’s probably juhyeon since she trained the longrst
@lgt_jne
@lgt_jne 2 года назад
@@nelliebellie2222 G(idle) lol 😆 it's just funny
@margarete5920
@margarete5920 Год назад
Fr even Btob still stay for this long because they self-produce. From what I knew even one of their member become a chairperson in CUBE too. I think that's the biggest reason they still stay (renew the contract) and not disband when the other members went to the military
@ashurasama
@ashurasama 2 года назад
Cube was decent when its founder was still CEO. Then he fell ill, and had to leave the reins to other people who basically didn't know what they were doing, and as time went things became worse and worse.
@lostinthedream706
@lostinthedream706 2 года назад
One other thing that I don't like about HYBE as that all groups that don't have separate control (ie Pledis, Source groups) are made to utilize the same extreme amount of autotune and vocal effects in their music. Listen to pretty much any recent BTS, TXT, and Enhypen song and they low-key sound like robots (with different variations). And with SM it seems like they now forbid live singing because they are so focused on having perfect singers. I just want to hear a genuine voice from both of these companies please!
@imani7979
@imani7979 2 года назад
i would say although it is a recent development, it's not as big of an issue as it's made out to be, it does ruin some songs BUT it's also often a stylistic choice. BTS' releases last year (mostly ptd) and a egregious amount of autotune but butter was okay it sounded good and dynamite had a few issues as well (namely taehyung's verse). as for txt, i can name 3 songs from their recent album that utilized and excessive amount of autotune although it could be argued that it's used well in magic. what if i had been the puma is clearly paying homage to early 2010's trap music and beats. ice cream is a hit or miss and the autotune doesn't really add anything to the song. enhypen is the group that i'd have to disagree with the most because even though they use autotune it doesn't feel out of place or smeared on, they're voices are still recognizable and it adds to the song artistically. anyway this is just my opinion and you're entitled to yours ofc.
@lostinthedream706
@lostinthedream706 2 года назад
@@imani7979 I agree and disagree. The use of tons of autotune in a song generally ruins the song for me. So mostly BTS and TXT's recent work, with a few exceptions. Like for example Dynamite. I really enjoy the majority of the song, but the amount of autotune makes it unlistenable for me However, with Enhypen it doesn't ruin the song for me. My opinion on their work is similar to your opinion. And like you said, you are completely entitled to your opinion, and mine is just one take on the subject. Thanks for such an indepth reply!
@adrianbonney6994
@adrianbonney6994 2 года назад
I’d say Seventeen, BTS and TXT to some extent have most control over their music tbh
@djskusus5269
@djskusus5269 2 года назад
Jessica literally talked about how sm treated them and said many things about sm but ppl still believe that " sm best family shit" she said Idols being treated as machines, being forced into contracts and how sm don't see them as real ppl but a money maker how and how they use female idols to promote male idols and many other things, like 2 idols from their ending their lives says enough about sm.
@kimy6954
@kimy6954 2 года назад
If you don’t know anything about the stories of the idols who passed please stop saying stupid shit, Sulli and Jonghyun’s passings were never the company’s fault, that’s just ridiculous, especially considering that Shinee members who were basically family to Jonghyun are still in the company, as well as many artists who were super close to him like Taeyeon. Both Sulli and Jonghyun had severe depression, for Jonghyun even his family didn’t realize how severe it was, and Sulli had left her group f(x) in 2015 bcuz she got into a relationship with someone much older than her who had influenced her to leave the group, they eventually broke up and she was experiencing so much cyber bullying, people who were blaming her cuz “she ruined the group” or slut shaming her and saying the most vile things. Idk why when it comes to idols mental health we never talk about the people online/fans who actually have the biggest influence on the artists, they can literally ruin an artist’s life and Sulli is the biggest example.
@1ia802
@1ia802 2 года назад
@@kimy6954 sm refuses to defend their idols, if you were in a deep state of depression would huge waves of hate and being unprotected help? no.
@fdscrl6016
@fdscrl6016 2 года назад
It’s so insensitive to bring up the su1cides tho... that’s not a good point everyone is making. there’s no way of knowing if it was the company’s fault or not, those people were not only their company.
@heenadhurwe_ce325
@heenadhurwe_ce325 2 года назад
@@1ia802 they can only do something against death threats.they can't do much for hate comments. Korean law is very loose in terms of cyber bullying and metal health.
@DisturbingRainbow
@DisturbingRainbow 2 года назад
Soyeon has had to fight over and over for her career. Cube is incompetant.
@eem8736
@eem8736 2 года назад
What I hate the most about p nation is what they have done with hyunas music , like cube sucks but they knew what to do with hyuna , her voice and the type of sound that fit her , with p Nation, it's like they don't know what sound she would fit best and are just giving her random noise , yes the first comeback under p nation was good , but now it's going down hill music wise , I don't know whether she produces the songs herself or not , but they need to hire whoever produced her music in cube
@candyhyojung1860
@candyhyojung1860 2 года назад
yes pls pnation give her like a quirkier concept ver of bubble pop or smth plsss
@Samm-ly2ij
@Samm-ly2ij 2 года назад
Psy wrote her first song Flower Shower. Hyuna did I'm not Cool and Good Girl. She is the one making the music you don't like. It sounds like you just don't like the music she wants to make. She has been writing and producing for years at Cube as well.
@ChloeBx
@ChloeBx 2 года назад
Tbh she makes her music, she's exploring more, trying new things I just hope she does another red or bc I'm the best or bubble pop to show that she's more than just a cube super star and proves that pnation can produce great music for her The cb weren't bad, just not iconic Her album with Dawn there was one slow song that was really really good Jessi is well established now, she gathers attention Dawn is exploring too, we haven't seen much yet
@huriebah8856
@huriebah8856 2 года назад
Once I accepted that all kpop companies really don't care about their artist or their artist fans, I actually started enjoying kpop more. No supporting one group or one company. If I don't like a comback, I don't feel the pressure to waste my time or money buying that album or streaming songs because of company or idol loyalty.
@AderianneMina
@AderianneMina 2 года назад
I miss the days where fans literally just enjoyed music bc now.......all they care for are the charts.
@honeybeeami2654
@honeybeeami2654 2 года назад
If Seventeen did not have as much of a major role in taking part of their music I'm 100% convinced that they would've been radio silence or disbanded a long time ago as well as Nu'est had it not been for Produce 101. It's a complete mess with every act they have.
@eykyra
@eykyra 2 года назад
So freaking true. People always talk about hybe like it's the best company but like the amount of greed those men have is insane. One thing is that they might have some of the best artists, or concepts, or creative teams which I do agree but that's on their employees. Another completely different thing is defending them from a business point of view. It's clear they only want to make money, tbh they would have never gotten that big if they didn't have that mentality to begin with, not to mention they value and gave a role into their company to people like Scooter Braun, that should give you an idea on their business ethics lol. I think they are also milking txt in a way even if not in the same level of course. The fact that they haven't had a proper break like longer than one week since they debuted is already alarming. As for jyp I also agree with you a lot. A lot of people say they suck for many reasons but they never mention training which I think it's one of the most obvious. You can see how much some idols on other groups improve in many areas or start taking on things like composition or producing after debut but that's something you hardly ever see on jyp idols and I think it's cause they lack that support system like having an actual coach/teacher on that area instead of relying on their fellow members for help. I'm not saying they do not improve with practice or personal investment but I mean having an actual technical development such as vocally. It's outstanding to see how much better Woojin's vocal skills are now that he's a soloist and that's a learning process he clearly did after leaving jyp, for example.
@ppora_um
@ppora_um 2 года назад
I just wish BTS could release a regular album, like love yourself or mots 7 and just express themselves and do what they want instead of releasing butter's 50th remix because HYBE wants money from the west
@kate1kate
@kate1kate 2 года назад
They have an upcoming album. They are one of the artists that have released the least amount of music this year. Let them have a break.
@jackr1886
@jackr1886 2 года назад
Remember how SM just let Chanyeol’s cheating rumors be and did not say anything, just for us to find out it was false. SM, do your job. Also I don’t get why people Stan the company itself. Companies don’t care about the idols, they just care about money.
@nonjabulomangoro1871
@nonjabulomangoro1871 2 года назад
Lol as an SM Stan it's liking almost all of SM groups. It's easier to say I'm an SM Stan than an : Exo-l , ReVeLuv, NCTzen, MY, Taemin, Taeyeon, Giant Pink, etc stan. It becomes apparent that it's due to SM's management and not so much with the actual groups. The artists are great too, but giving a good artist / group bad music(ie nmixx) isn't going to make the great artist look great. I like maybe 3 groups from other companies 🤦‍♀️(not even Stan)
@lucassaiden2969
@lucassaiden2969 2 года назад
Regarding Chanyeol’s controversy, SM actually did their own investigation and collected all of it before they filed an official lawsuit. They really suck but we have to give them the credit for how they handled his controversy.
@neruneru9713
@neruneru9713 2 года назад
"Pledis Entertainment are masters at wasting talent." PREACH. They literally have someone with the potential to become one of fourth gen's biggest main vocalists, and what did they do? They shoved Heo Yunjin into the deepest corner of the basement and moved on with their lives. I don't understand. Why? Why???
@faithmaraj3885
@faithmaraj3885 2 года назад
I’d seriously love to see you do a “What companies are good at” video just to see what you come up with for Cube ENT. Pffff Loved this one!
@mxm7647
@mxm7647 2 года назад
CUBE is really good at trying to sell a fantasy of two idols dating (Troublemaker ) but when it turns out to be true they are excellent at kicking them out of the company instead of starting a revolution in the industry.
@crelgen1588
@crelgen1588 2 года назад
Not sure if it's because or despite Cube, but they have the majority of the talented producer/songwriter idols, like Hui, formerly Edawn, Soyeon etc and also many fantastic singers like all of Btob, Pentagon and most of Gidle
@asmasam
@asmasam 2 года назад
I'll give 2 things: They are soooo good at scouting talents, like ALL of their artists are CRAZY talented, no one can deny that, like the amount of talented idols cube has is pretty much incomparable. The other thing, is that they let their artist do their own music if they are capable of,in other words they don't stand in their way in this aspect (sm and yg should take notes) Am I saying cube is good ? HELL NAH, they're definitely the worst ever, I just give them those 2 points to be fair
@Pain-yx1ri
@Pain-yx1ri 2 года назад
ig what i can praise cube for is their training system. They have powerhouse vocalists like pentagons vocal line, Btob's vocal line, Seunghee CLC and Minnie from gidle. They also have decent rappers and dancers too. Its a bit sad that a lot of the talent isnt properly getting recognized except for gidle but thats thanks to their leader. Stay safe and have a lovely day
@dharling97
@dharling97 Год назад
their overall trainess and idols. They have some mad talented idols, however once they debut, it's game over.
@minhyuklees1bebe902
@minhyuklees1bebe902 2 года назад
I feel bad for Pledis groups actually, when their groups debuted they manage to get so much hype but for some reason Pledis can’t help them keep their momentum, example Nu’est debut being SO HUGE then suddenly becoming a nugu group for the next 5 years because Pledis decided to ship them away to Japan along with After School. IDK if Pledis ever promoted Bumzu because I know he signed as a singer, but he probably makes a ton of money for working with all Seventeen and Nu’est songs.
@CK-lg9cy
@CK-lg9cy 2 года назад
HYBE give me this really off vibe with their relationship with BTS, like it's an obsession that won't stop anytime soon..
@arcticg7644
@arcticg7644 2 года назад
As far as SM not giving a shit about the artists well-being, back in the day, Leeteuk and Yoona and some other idols under SM basically created a depression support group. This was publicly known (iirc, Leeteuk blogged about it). That should’ve been a wake up call that “Hey some of these young people under our company need serious help and support. Maybe we should give a shit about their well-being.” But this is SM we’re talking about, so no, they actively don’t care if their artists are suffering.
@bitchisalive
@bitchisalive 2 года назад
also, RBW Entertainment is bad at promoting artists, they really suck at it Purple Kiss and Oneus could be much popular. it just feels like their fans do more than a company
@vxxky2131
@vxxky2131 2 года назад
Agree. When I found Purple Kiss (and later Oneus) I was amazed by their talent. I'm pretty active on kpop and listen to almost everything, so it was weird that I didn't even hear about them.
@encryptedrune8090
@encryptedrune8090 2 года назад
Not only them but also Mamamoo and Vromance. They have been around for years and years, but nothing has improved, almost every single artist under RBW is talented, but RBW has somehow managed to make a turn for the worse. Also, MMM who brought the company up is being purposely suppressed in terms of promotion just because they saw that too much of the entire company's income relied on MMM. Just please at least manage any group well RBW. But nope, they're managing many talented groups without being able to promote any of them properly.
@SoraAoi97
@SoraAoi97 2 года назад
For the most part, I think rbw's creative and talent management is good but then they fall so hard when it comes to promotions and marketing. I feel like the top brass of the company is constantly looking at how to make more money in the easiest way possible and it's their artists that suffer
@myraclesname
@myraclesname 2 года назад
Something I want to mention: SM is bad at managing their idols, but we don't know how they handle mental health. Having depression (or any mental illness) can have many reasons and isn't easy to treat at all. Companies can't prevent their idols from being mentally unwell in a grand scheme of things. While they can certainly do better in terms of treatment, sulli and jonghyun battled with many other problems. Even going to therapy and taking medications (while mostly being a big help) can't magically help idols out of situations like these. We should never blame a company for these things, because this issue is so much bigger and more complicated than that.
@MsZeldasaga
@MsZeldasaga 2 года назад
I agree! A company can not control their idols mental health. There are people who have support but still end their lives. Yes companies can help their idols, but at the end of the day, rhe decision is up to the idol whether or not they want to keep going (in life).
@helenas7948
@helenas7948 2 года назад
Exactly. I find it extremely disrespectful that some people, who know nothing about Jonghyun's and Sulli's struggles, think that they found the easy answer "Oh, their company sucks, so they decided to end their life". They treat two people with different, complicated stories, as their winning argument in stupid fan wars.
@myraclesname
@myraclesname 2 года назад
@@helenas7948 true, it's not only offensive but also harmful to those who struggle with such issues. Being suicidal is nothing to downplay and it's not because of simple reasoning like that.
@el972
@el972 2 года назад
Yep, in the end of the day we don’t know why they did what they did, of course sm could be a reason but not solely that
@silje-lia
@silje-lia 2 года назад
Seeing a comment saying SM is responsible for Sulli and Jonghyun situation just makes me wanna say don't downplay depression like this. As someone who had looked at (nearly) all the articles that are related to their incidents, I would say SK stressful entertainment industry is just a part - the real issue is the antis/ haters. And sometimes I can't really blame companies for not doing more - you just can't tape everyone's mouth and there are always idiots who just keep hating on idols for no reason and are not fear for getting sued.
@PrincessNana08
@PrincessNana08 Год назад
God the frustration of having exo and red velvet as your ultimate groups and having to go throught despair of all this mismanagement has been so tiring. Aside from a huge problem was also their abuse of member's health and lack of protection(the amount of Vile shit that knetz continue to drop on Chen for having a family is ridiculous)
@belvedere6368
@belvedere6368 2 года назад
I have a theory that Cube would be fine if they only had to manage one girl group and one boy group. I feel like the timelines between their girl groups disbanding/going to shit and them getting ready to debut a new gg show that they are just totally incompetent.
@Nameless_mixes
@Nameless_mixes 2 года назад
NOT JYPE HAVING AN ENTIRE ROLL OF TOILET PAPER FOR THEIR LIST!!! 😂🪦🧻
@helenas7948
@helenas7948 2 года назад
I would love if kpop stans weren't so certain that they know everything about Jonghyun... We know he was receiving treatment. That's all we know, because the rest is not our business. We also know that deep depression is one of the most fatal conditions there is. People who treat people suffering from it say that in many cases, even if you do everything you could, you can't save the person. They compare it to treating cancer - there will be people who won't make it, not because anybody did anything wrong, but because the disease is that brutal and dangerous. And blaming people around the person who took their own life is just cruel. You are basically blaming people who knew him for years, who worked with him, who he was often friends with, for not helping him, while not knowing even 10% of the story. It is just cruel. Imagine that your friend or coworker takes their own life and everyone just blames you because you were next to them and assumes that you did nothing. And everyone has their own story. An idol is a person with their past, their private life, their traumas. We don't know so many things about them, but we should remember that their life is not only about their career. We don't know what were the roots of Jonghyun's depression. We can only guess that they reached deep into his soul and were much more complicated that what we know about him. It is irresponsible and immature to play a blame game, pointing fingers at people who were close to him, who worked with him, and who must have been traumatised by his death much more than fans who never met him. Think about their feelings for once.
@iliterallycannot1661
@iliterallycannot1661 2 года назад
She isn’t talking about his idol coworkers/friends, she’s talking about company staff, mainly the people in charge. Y’all don’t comprehend anything and spew hate smh.
@helenas7948
@helenas7948 2 года назад
@@iliterallycannot1661The staff are literally his coworkers. Many of them had known him for years. And people who don't know anything about him are ready to throw stones.
@nishaward670
@nishaward670 2 года назад
Now I kind of want to see your take on rbw and happyface ent. The latter company is interesting to me because their mismanagement of groups is just amazingingly breathtaking.
@mcneeeeeil
@mcneeeeeil 2 года назад
SM is so fucking ridiculous. Where is the profit incentive in shooting yourself in the foot by allowing scandals to derail you completely? Think of all the money they've lost in having to re-schedule releases or rush production. It's insane. When they bring producers from California, they need to also pick up a couple of PR people. Someone who doesn't know anything about Korea could still do a better job handling scandals. It seems they only use their legal departments over contract disputes and setting up LLCs to launder money. SM acts like they're a small mom & pop shop when they can't juggle promoting all their groups well. They have a considerable presence in Japan and South East Asia to be able to have groups promoting simultaneously in different countries without having their groups competing with each other. The one bare minimum change that seems to have been implemented is more humane treatment of their idols. Not saying that it's great. As a 2nd gen fan, it's clear that they're taking physical injuries more seriously than before. They seem to send their idols for physicals often especially before comebacks. Injured idols have been able to rest and take time off. Idols who've struggled with anxiety or other mental health issues have been able to access therapy and time off. We still don't know how easy or encouraged it is, but it's progress. We should also remember that mistreating mental health isn't just an SM or industry problem but a societal problem in Korea. Mental health is taboo to varying degrees all over the world, but it's especially not talked about or ignored in Korea. Jonghyun saw many therapists and doctors who basically told him that he had no reason to be sad and to just cheer up. The medical field also failed him. I've had my share of shitty therapists in America and Britain as well. It's only pharmaceutical companies drive for big profits that make anti-depressants easy to get in America, even if you don't need them which can also be dangerous. I just want to re-iterate that SM is trash whose only saving grace is their training system and commitment to high quality music production. It's just as evil and exploitative as any company. I'm not defending it. I just wanted to say that at least some progress has been made in labour conditions. Idols should unionise. Support workers. (also that's another thing we miss, korea has trash labour laws and it was even worse in the 2000s and that's why a lot of the shit sm did was even considered normal, like chinese migrant workers HAD to be paid less than the korean equivalent???)
@Mashka14
@Mashka14 2 года назад
Correct unfortunately these companies only care about the image reputation and the profits these idols bring to them instead of treating them as human beings whose mental health should come first and also protecting the idols and artists from misinformation false statements and remarks being spread by toxic K-pop Stan and fandoms especially on social media like Twitter
@jiminbangtan28
@jiminbangtan28 2 года назад
I think bighit manages txt well compared to other companies but the fact that they control the songs and concepts without txt input is so upsetting like the members obviously dont like long title songs but they keep giving them that!!! That long title is effecting the song charting since viral songs are always short
@marihanramos5443
@marihanramos5443 2 года назад
the long tittles are always in korean, when it comes to a translation its short crown, cant u see me, runaway, puma, magic...
@dilmidaniel3683
@dilmidaniel3683 2 года назад
Lucas career literally at risk, fans waiting for a statement form sm but you know sm is just chilling
@insomnia6265
@insomnia6265 2 года назад
i am laughing so hard when you said cube is a company that cannot company 😭😭
@user-jf8xu1id1v
@user-jf8xu1id1v 2 года назад
I freaking hate sme with a passion for the way they treated WayV. What's the point of creating a boy group for the Chinese market if you're not gonna promote them there??? And don't get me started on the blatant favoritism towards Korean idols
@04leakg64
@04leakg64 2 года назад
Well to be fair, they promoted wayv in China before of the pandemic. Of course it was a dumb idea to make them live in Korea and only went to China when they have promotions. But back then, no one thinks about the possibilities of a pandemic.
@4everlastingstarlight
@4everlastingstarlight 2 года назад
YGE really needs to start noticing they are an entertainment company that produces SINGERS, not models
@yunjeans
@yunjeans 2 года назад
This comment is officially a petition to get Teddy in the YG Dungeon™
@audio4642
@audio4642 2 года назад
Petition signed by me
@lillyunova1042
@lillyunova1042 2 года назад
Signed!!!
@leeminholuv7018
@leeminholuv7018 2 года назад
Signed :)
@aplaraujo250
@aplaraujo250 2 года назад
Signed!
@CosmicWishes
@CosmicWishes 2 года назад
Signed!
@yurineivilleromartinez1311
@yurineivilleromartinez1311 2 года назад
No because, I got that shock to reality when 10x Entertainment did what an actual entertainment company should do when it came to everything. Yet, I'm just waiting for that moment when it becomes just like any other company in this business, changes their values and so on.
@haewonized
@haewonized 2 года назад
I haven’t watched it yet but I bet yg is going to suck at giving comebacks 😍😍
@seungcherryhae
@seungcherryhae 2 года назад
i'm glad pledis didn't ship svt to other country after they debut (they probably learnt their lesson from what happen to nu'est & afterschool after sending them to japan) svt actually got the western interest during their debut(their debut album became the longest-charting K-pop album of the year in the US) but pledis focus on korean promotion first. After having a solid korean fanbase, they focus on solidifying their japanese fanbase which was a great success (happy ending staying on oricon chart for 100 weeks). And now, they're trying to promote to the western but they still need to up their effort in western promoting
@schmoneysworld3790
@schmoneysworld3790 2 года назад
Hard pill to swallow but some groups were meant to be "____ and friends" they fulfilled their purpose people just think its wrong. But Gugudan did its job. So did DIA.
@junpi8562
@junpi8562 2 года назад
I agree with you about the control HYBE have over BTS. I felt very weird about that time they cried at an awards show. They said it was because they discussed disbanding, but no grown men are going to be breaking their hearts over discussing their business options, especially when they didn't do it. V was inconsolable, crying his heart out. Something went down behind closed doors - maybe during contract negotiations - that really upset them. We probably won't ever find out though. I hope they are happier now.
@joonsdimple
@joonsdimple 2 года назад
I have a question, what could hybe have over bts? I never heard this before and this is a different take could you explain a little bit on what you mean?
@ys2417
@ys2417 2 года назад
Maybe because their dream was to be an idol losing the spot might be heartbreaking for them (wut?) Idk just my thoughts.
@bluem0n0chrom3
@bluem0n0chrom3 2 года назад
prob not about contract negotiations it's because of the pressure they had to deal with lots of responsibilities as they're getting influential and big in sk and the start of their rise of popularity in america from 2017. but in the end they decided together to continue as bts again. listen to outro: tear it talks about that
@ys2417
@ys2417 2 года назад
@@bluem0n0chrom3 true.
@thgfghft5857
@thgfghft5857 2 года назад
wasn't it because the pressure from all the attention and responsibilities?
@chelsietucker2208
@chelsietucker2208 2 года назад
Now all companies are bad at this point and they all have their issues, but as someone who has stanned a group from Ts ent I just feel glad that these companies aren’t at their level which isn’t hard to do tbf
@Exonorm27
@Exonorm27 2 года назад
I really don’t understand why JYPE vocals are hated on so much when they’re better than, say, YGE for example. NaJeongJi are a really strong 3rd gen vocal line, NMixx have an insane vocal line, Itzy are stable as hell when dancing, and Skz is an average group for boy group standards. Yes Twice have shown themselves unstable live, but that’s because of overworking not lack of skills. Yes Itzy don’t have a particularly impressive vocalist, but their stability while dancing is unmatched by anyone. JYPE doesn’t have issues with training male rappers (Changbin, Han), but I agree on the female rappers that they just don’t train those at all. Honestly JYPE is actually becoming underrated in terms of vocals. Kinda surprising.
@HopeeInk
@HopeeInk 2 года назад
This video had me giggle the entire time. Love how finally everyone’s opinion on these companies has been combined in one video
@coathee
@coathee 2 года назад
i think one of the things that should be addressed is how badly managed wayv are compared to other nct units. during their debut, they were given only a "recycled" song that was originally from nct 127 and wasn't even acknowledged as part of the nct brand until resonance era. heck they weren't even allowed to mention one another back then?? 2021 was also a hell year for the boys considering what happened with lucas and now their last cb turned one year just this month which was the last time all 7 members were together. we weren't given any solid announcements on when they will return as a group even when they were hinting for a cb since LAST year. and now don't even get me started how one of the members once mentioned how there are only less than 20 staff managing them !!
@fat74k
@fat74k 2 года назад
As SM Stan(Fan of most of their groups), SM truly sucks. Yeah music,concept and story line is really good and creative BUT thay really don't know how to treat idols, some of their idols are overworked(Mark)and some of them really don't have enough work. Also about scandels Do I need to explain? Just look at Lucas station or Chanyeol station, Also protect them from freaking stalkers like I feel so bad for young ones. Also about YG one, their idols are so talented but usually(if you like it It's okay, just my personal opinion) music is bad and thay don't have that much comeback/content, also thay literally treat them as models like WTF. Another thing is Teddy, I'm tired of his works thay literally sound same, he was good producer but now he needs some fresh air
@lifeisbeautiful...7783
@lifeisbeautiful...7783 2 года назад
Blink going to bark on you when they going to see what you wrote. Blink still want to see half lyrics songs and they think blackpink have best songs in kpop like did u even to try listening others group songs. I just hope you don't gets hateful comments from blink
@fat74k
@fat74k 2 года назад
@@lifeisbeautiful...7783 Thanks ✨
@fat74k
@fat74k 2 года назад
@@lordtwiwi6076 I mean It's just my personal opinion if someone out of there like their music is completely fine,Also I agree about what you said about concept because some concepts are overused the good example is girl crush
@sammiat
@sammiat 2 года назад
This is brilliant, incredible, show stopping, spectacular, never the same, totally unique! This is everything I want in a ktube video and more, can’t wait for part2
@minnihart9010
@minnihart9010 2 года назад
I have only 2 things with people saying TWICE is overworked 1. They are overworked in some extent, but the proof that some of y'all bring up are ridiculous For example, Doughnut released after Scientist for two week, which is very common because TWICE released Korean TT and then they will released Japanese TT for a week or two apart for a while now. And people in the news post were shock for some reason. The most stupid part was that there were many comment thinking that TWICE shoot MV, record music, learn the choreography, film the special stage in just 2 week after the end of the promotion of Scientist. Like pls use your common sense. How tf would they do that. And when I tell them to use their comment sense, I got attack for "supporting" the overworked of TWICE 2. How screaming "TWICE IS OVERWORKED, LET THEM REST" in news post gonna make JYPe stop overworked TWICE. How tf would they know that. If you want them to know then at least email it to them. And don't use the pharse "How do you know they did not email to JYP?" well I just say it for someone who didn't email it to JYPe. If you do it, then congrats.
@1ia802
@1ia802 2 года назад
twice has literally talked about being overworked, especially in the past. plus, if you actually let the comeback sit for a few months, ppl will actually WANT new music
@nightingale4786
@nightingale4786 2 года назад
cube ent is the result of upper management not being a part of the music industry. like i think more than 30% of the company and abt 80% of top level management is commandeered by a fcking holdings company/parent company to a cosmetics label. i will say the only thing cube is good at is scouting talent but what's the damn point if everything else isn't done to service the talent? also, the fact that their idols don't even own the masters to their own songs is criminal (it's also the main reason why the whole 'gidle leave cube' is rather unrealistic bc all the royalties the girls would've been making off their music would be cut off if they leave and/or they'd have to engage in a very expensive lawsuit to gain back their masters). it's just such a shithole company i can't. also, top media should do what stayc's company does/fetus bh used to do since they clearly dont have industry connections to promote their groups anywhere meaningful. CREATE CONTENT THAT FANS WANT!! let them cover kpop groups, film more of the behind process of them preparing for comebacks, take any gig no matter how small!!
@LovelyKissess
@LovelyKissess 2 года назад
This is for ALL companies. It would be SOOOOO much easier if STANS weren't so whiney. How can you handle a scandal well if people are still going to complain and whine regardless of how you handle it, because some people are NEVER satisfied. I'll personally just ignore the fans and scandals publicly altogether. The stress they must be going through is stressful to even think about. I really hate kpop stans
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 года назад
Unpopular opinion: Teddy is overheated producer in Kpop community. 1) Sure, he's not versatile as a producer but he's hit maker (most of his songs are really catchy) hits=money 2) He isn't responsible for one Blackpink comeback per year, I'm sure that they have over 100 songs that are just released when YGE decides. 3) He's also producer for Somi but Somi also writes and composes songs on her own, also BigBang and 2NE1 were involved in their music process as well at some point, that's why I don't hear people trashing on Teddy when it comes to them. 🤷‍♀️ Blackpink needs to get more involved too, cause it's obvious they can (Gone, Lovesick girls, On the ground, Solo, Stay, verses of their covers etc) and then their music will get better and people would stop hating on Teddy. It's obvious they trust Teddy if he mostly writes and produce their music. It's honestly way easier to trash Teddy's production and lyrics on Lalisa and not critize Lisa for not being involved in making process musically. I said what I said, and I love BP girls with my whole heart.
@luna740
@luna740 2 года назад
I feel like if BP truly wanted to be involved they would.. it doesn’t make sense to have somi, 2NE1 and BigBang involved in their songs and for some magical reason BP aren’t… Blinks like throw the victim card around them. And lol lalisa and money sucked. Lisa deserves popularity and achievements, her solo doesn’t😬
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 года назад
@@luna740 I think Rosé definitely wants to focus on making music and getting personal with it. Just watching her interviews from solo era or Light up the sky, she genuinely seems passionate about it. I just think her case is lack of confidence and comebacks. The rest of the group seems more passionate about different things, and that's okay. About Lisa's solo in particular, I'm not saying Lisa is supposed to be the greatest songwriter or producer, but she clearly liked and chose her solo. If she wanted "better" (as Blinks say) she'd try to do something different on her own. I'm just done with Blinks/Lilies screaming how "YG did Lisa dirty" or how Teddy's work is bad and yet nobody wasn't disappointed when they realized Lisa didn't participate in writing/composing/producing for her solo songs or maybe said "Hold up, Lisa had control over this."
@junpi8562
@junpi8562 2 года назад
It depends on their contract. If Teddy is in control of their musical output, they can't do much about it. And Teddy is not going to give over control to Blackpink because his royalties from writing their songs are his biggest income stream by a huge amount. I think it says a lot that Blackpink are the only YG group without their own studio in the new building. I think I read that Lisa was involved with one of her songs, but YG should have done better by her. People kept saying "she chose the tracks herself" but out of what options though? They're just assuming there was something better on offer.
@evercarter110
@evercarter110 2 года назад
@@junpi8562 Exactly
@basiclush637
@basiclush637 2 года назад
2ne1 got involved with music when they were in their last year of career . Somi seems to get involved because she is in teddy company . Teddy has more control over her musical releases . Jennie and jisoo seems to have many involvements in music like their unreleased song ready for love which both Jennie and jisoo were credited . Lovesick girls they both were credited . Gone and on the ground which rose was credited . Genuinely seems like these three get more involved in making music . Lisa seems to love dance a lot she was credited from she use to make their predebut dances . Yg was never great with their female groups .
@rosieposiedidnteatavacados
@rosieposiedidnteatavacados 2 года назад
It hasn't even started but I already love ittt
@WonHakWoon
@WonHakWoon 11 месяцев назад
SM has had so many lawsuits, including TVXQ's former members who now promote as JYJ (or until now). But with the Chinese idols thing, they literally are doing this Chinese idol mistreatment since Super Junior debuted. Heck I'm still surprised Zhou Mi is still under SM... Cube never properly managed 4Minute, as they only cared about Hyuna. Everyone you asked about 4Minute had Hyuna as their bias and didn't care about any other member. The CLC situation is just as bad, they were also screwed over. As for Jellyfish, they literally let VIXX fall apart now. 2 members gone and Jellyfish just let them swim. Gugudan deserved better for sure, I wasn't even a fan FYI.
@svtbtsmoo1317
@svtbtsmoo1317 2 года назад
Discussion of Pledis gives me as a carat war flashbacks... please... I'm seriously glad SVT fought for their voice, their music, their promotions...and that they have great energy and personalities, or else.. .TT TT
@zampax2361
@zampax2361 2 года назад
Love the intro/preview! You made me laugh from start to end. Great job!
@glowingyoongi
@glowingyoongi 2 года назад
cube entertainment is so weird because they only allow certain groups in their company to write their own music, for example ex clc member sorn has recently said in a twitter space that the members (clc) weren’t able to try and produce their own songs simply because blue box company didn’t let them 😐
@lovesickmermaid7114
@lovesickmermaid7114 2 года назад
it's funny how cube basically requires a producer in each group to guarantee comebacks but at the same time won't provide production software to the artists. bare minimum stuff.
@oh_snap_its_Wari
@oh_snap_its_Wari 2 года назад
I remember hankyung talking about how he was getting a drip and then their manager asked him to hurry, so they adjust the speed of IV drip to the max. Which can be deadly . And then he had to go to an award ceremony right away. This is only one incident that completely shows that sm has never cared about their foreign artists.
@ThisUserPassedAway
@ThisUserPassedAway 2 года назад
I was waiting for this, you’re seriously one of the saviour of the kpop community.
@thakur.snigdha
@thakur.snigdha 2 года назад
another thing bout sm is that THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO PROTECT THEIR IDOLS FROM STALKERS!! like sm idols are the biggest victim of stalkers esp nct, sasaengs are always in front of their dorm throughout the day and members have to deal with them by their own selves. some sasaengs tried to kidnap exo once, tvxq yunho got poisened by a so-called fan. they literally have no protection and its so sad
@foodse9383
@foodse9383 2 года назад
The cube one though. I swear no one could've said it better.
@colton3999
@colton3999 2 года назад
m so mad at cube I mean ik m not the only one,, I feel like Soyeon should make her own agency cuz she's literally what keeps gidle together
@serene3036
@serene3036 2 года назад
Just saw the preview... CHERYL'S HERE TO SLAY AGAIN!!
@annhon2839
@annhon2839 Год назад
Hybe also need to stop debuting their trainees at 14. Like they're not even out of middle school yet, let them grow
@ayeshamazhari137
@ayeshamazhari137 2 года назад
The fact that HYBE is milking so much of BTS to me is making me literally get bored of watching BTS all the time..like seriously I love the boys but there is a certain limit to it like let them rest and focus on the other groups you have they need more attention i feel like HYBE is the real saseng of BTS which they need to be protected from..
@ayeshamazhari137
@ayeshamazhari137 2 года назад
@@lordtwiwi6076 in terms of treatment wise i don't think they are good
@ayeshamazhari137
@ayeshamazhari137 2 года назад
@@lordtwiwi6076 it's true i know that but it's not me searching or watching their content but the company throwing at my face and plus i want them to rest properly they deserve it
@nick3805
@nick3805 2 года назад
For me JELLYFISH ENTERTAINMENT is one of THE WORST companies in K-Pop. I used to like them for allowing Hongbin to stream and also for them allowing VIXX be a bit more open and offensive as characters instead of being bland perfect dolls. But there are so many things that don't sit right with me, I'll list the things that come to my mind, I know there are far more: I. VIXX' treatment during their hiatus: As a starlight, I'm the most pissed about this one, so this will be a bit longer, but JELLYFISH, WHAT IN JYP's FISH TANK ARE YOU DOING!?!? First of all, they don't promote the solo projects of the members at all, they are not giving any subtitles under VIXX TV, nor are they giving any activity to VIXX at all even tho none of the members are currently in the military. Also what they did with Hongbin: He was the most underpromoted member during the hiatus. The only activity he had was Cool Love, a joint Pepsi promotion with Hyungwon. He talked about struggling privately on his streams, and yet, when the Drunk Stream Controversy happened JELLYFISH DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING against the spead of false rumors, insults being thrown as him as well as threats, even death threats. Instead, they put him in a hiatus from the beginning of march until August, but as JELLYFISH had done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING against the Anti-Hongbin-Bandwagon he recieved immense backlash when he announced his return. The result was him leaving the group just days after, alledgedly on his own, but I don't believe that. The whole situation was VERYVERY JellyFISHy as he had renewed his contract and clearly wanted to continue with VIXX just a few months before. II. GUGUDAN - Do I have to say more? III. FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT - VIXX' HYUK constantly jokes about JELLYFISH ENTERTAINMENT being broke. How they manage that is the question, I mean VERIVERY's sales are growing in huge steps - their most recent album sold 80.000 copies, what the fish are they doing with the revenue of those sales? It also can't be debts as VIXX sales were always high and Gugudan still sold at least SOMETHING.
@WonHakWoon
@WonHakWoon 11 месяцев назад
THANK FUCKING GOD a Starlight said this
@nick3805
@nick3805 11 месяцев назад
@@WonHakWoon To be honest, with how Jellyfish has mismanaged VIXX post-Scentist era, I currently see the group at the brink of de-facto disbandment. They've lost 2 members, one of those being heavily involved in the music, and out of the 4 remaining members, 2 are out of the company with one being heavily involved in acting and the other having started a bigger project while still having to complete his military service. I'd like it a lot if VIXX still had a future, but at the current rate I don't see it. If Hongbin still was in the group, it would be another story, but like this...
@camcantgayme
@camcantgayme 2 года назад
The pnation one is brought down to personal taste exclusively, if you like it good, if u don't ok that's fine, just cuz one person doesn't like it doesn't mean it's garbage (no hate to the video maker I'm saying this generally)
@peachyarts386
@peachyarts386 2 года назад
Yeah I agree, I’m someone who really likes the music pnation produces, I’m just a fan of the more artistic and “unique” at least for me sound of it. I do still think the video is good just that the music stuff really does come down to preferences just like you said(no hate to the video too)
@ritikamandal2121
@ritikamandal2121 2 года назад
Don’t get me wrong , I guess YG should be judged beyond “BLACKPINK “. There are many other popular groups under YG, leaving out the late comebacks , none of them are currently involved with Teddy . Maximum of them curate their own music , plus other YG producers . Just a thought , don’t get me wrong . Would love to listen to your take taking into account all the other YG artists as well .
@galaxygashina
@galaxygashina 2 года назад
I totally agree with you. I think a lot of people judge YG solely through the Blackpink lens and in reality there are other groups with different management teams and styles. Ex: Winner and Treasure. Also hard agree on the Teddy thing. Teddy hasnt produced for any other boy group since Big Bang. But a lot of kpop fans seem to think he manages every yg artists music and thats just not true.
@ritikamandal2121
@ritikamandal2121 2 года назад
@@galaxygashina Exactly! That too for Bigbang, he was never the main producer, he was a co producer . Bigbang songs were mainly produced by GD. Also there’s only one song , that’s Apology from iKon which has been again co produced by Teddy . Besides not a single YG group has his involvement . YG groups can and have the tendency to self produce and Winner , iKon, Treasure, AKMU , Bigbang simply proves that . Only Blackpink, 2Ne1 and partly Bigbang had Teddy’s involvement. Also YG houses real good producers besides Teddy . I mean, it breaks my heart to see YG getting judged totally on the basis of Blackpink. Blackpink’s working is very very different from every other YG group , starting from music , production everything . I can say it with a lot of pride , that YG among many other kpop agencies,still creates some good music . Good music ≠ Catering to the public at large / or getting viral .
@ritikamandal2121
@ritikamandal2121 2 года назад
Also before anyone comes at me, let me make it clear that I’m just stating my opinion . As a channel viewer, I showcased my opinion on the content released . I have no intention to harm anyone’s sentiments . Thank you .
@basiclush637
@basiclush637 2 года назад
@@ritikamandal2121 rose solo and Jennie solo seems to have more influence solely because the girls had involvement in writing process . Lisa did not have any involvement in these that is why in my opinion the song seems empty. In my opinion Jennie and jisoo will soon start getting involved in these process since they seem to be involved in many things .
@ritikamandal2121
@ritikamandal2121 2 года назад
@@basiclush637 See now that depends from person to person , as in the music . Money is Lisa’s pick , still it got criticised by so many . I mean , that’s different, I mean to say . No one can guarantee that direct involvement would guarantee the song’s appeal quality .
@zoeheu2024
@zoeheu2024 2 года назад
I’d love to see a video you make where you make your own company and your own rules and how you’d manage your artists and stuff!
@astra4352
@astra4352 Год назад
Had to give a like to the video from the preview alone
@DianaMartinez-fl1pj
@DianaMartinez-fl1pj 2 года назад
Juice has promoted MCND waaay better than Top Media
@amesseduppotato9822
@amesseduppotato9822 2 года назад
This! 😭🤚
@tessahwa
@tessahwa 2 года назад
Wanna know what Hybe sucks at too? Being dishonest about not meddling in the other companies' affairs. Hybe is not a good company now, they are beginning a monopoly in the kpop industry. If you have even the slightest economic knowledge it's easy to see.
@marihanramos5443
@marihanramos5443 2 года назад
and what with that? Just because its hybe they cant acquire a company? Im not trying to sound rude but seriously, if whatever hybe want to make doesnt affect the groups i Stan, then i dont really care.
@Naomi-yc4fp
@Naomi-yc4fp 2 года назад
Tbh I was very surprised that BTS themselves allowed their discography to go that south, like there’s nothing wrong with changing style like back in DNA era, but now the music is just not as good as they used to be, and considering they used make majority of their stuff themselves, idk how they are not threatened with money or something to release these songs under their name
@smrkml537
@smrkml537 2 года назад
I’m not sure how much they care at this point. They are all multi millionaires and their fandom will literally buy anything with the BTS name on it, even if it’s garbage.
@everythingsfinett3903
@everythingsfinett3903 2 года назад
@@smrkml537 Yeahh, they’re going in the family friendly direction. Like kids and elderly friendly
@Sana-dl2eq
@Sana-dl2eq 2 года назад
@@nafitaffi no cuz bts released 3 songs in english and everyone was coming at them for like no fucking reason. and they all literally forget that for 3 english songs they gave an entire album in korean, with bops like dis-ease, telepathy and fly to my room. like come on i did not know yall will get that butt hurt over 3 english songs💀💀
@alisonjoseph450
@alisonjoseph450 2 года назад
Dude, they realised three songs. Stop acting like they released tons and tons of songs plus the English songs are just to get bigger in America and it worked. Chill
@alisonjoseph450
@alisonjoseph450 2 года назад
@Sana Khan exactly cause I'm genuinely confused why ppl are acting like this 💀
@mvv0
@mvv0 2 года назад
I'm not sure how true this is but I read somewhere that apparently Wonwoo was supposed to be cast for playing the lead in 'My ID is Gangnam Beauty' but at that time Pledis did not allow SVT to partake in individual projects. Looking at the popularity of the show, it would've been such a great opportunity for expanding their fanbase. Honestly, I think Seventeen is in such a highly regarded position because of how dedicated the members have been towards the group. They truly are self-made - production, choreography, variety show presence - all handled by the members. It's wonderful to see their growth. On another note, can someone please tell me which artists fancam was being played during SM's section in the video?
@snbakn
@snbakn 2 года назад
I think it was GWSN
@mvv0
@mvv0 2 года назад
@@snbakn Thank you so much.
@eem8736
@eem8736 2 года назад
We should put bekuh boom in the dungeon too 'cause the money Lyrics 😃 (I Know my name is literally Lisa's money , but it's because I find the name cute 🙂)
@minwonruuu2283
@minwonruuu2283 Год назад
And Pledis doesn't even wait for their groups to grow before dropping them. Pledis gives me the impression of a father that went to get milk and never came back because their three year old isn't a doctor yet. Like??? I don't think they had any valid reason to drop Pristin as quickly as they did.
@Zenluvtasy
@Zenluvtasy 2 года назад
Can't wait to hear your thoughts on FNC
@michyblink
@michyblink 2 года назад
Okay but like this was so fun to watch, although it's sad at the same time
@g.2658
@g.2658 2 года назад
I agree with most of this, really, you spoke the truth. I mean I personally like the music PNation artists do, but the rest I absolutely agree with. I hope you cover Woollim in part 2 because me, who stans pretty much all Woollim groups, y'all. It's a rough time to be doing that. I could rant for hours about how much Woollim sucks at like. Too many things to count. They train their artists so well, they have/had some of my favourite dancers and vocalists and Then What
@Shomig99
@Shomig99 2 года назад
I'm sorry but Wollim will need a 3 part series to cover their ineptitude.
@g.2658
@g.2658 2 года назад
@@Shomig99 You... did not lie
@malaborenielalmario144
@malaborenielalmario144 2 года назад
yeah wtf was woollim thinking about chaewon? why is girlie under hybe rn? also wtf was eunbi's solo? you literally get 1 photocard out of 20 in one album.
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