What Engineers Found When They Tore Apart Tesla's Model 3 

Lucas Oehms yeah wtf was thinking the same thing lol

Possibly because he has torn apart the model 3

Same with showing a Volt when he refers to the Bolt.

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@@muderer_executioner j

Thats true :)))))))))))

Yo I like this comment

Totally an S.

😂😂

Lars van der Hooft indeed. Thought same 😂😂

They be like: *_surprised pickachu face_*

It's not folded. Rather it's cut up and welded together at angles

@@elmera4411 www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/teslas-origami-style-design-cybertruck-stainless-steel-exoskeleton

They fid recognise that the cybertruck is avove all competitors

Elon took this advice waaay too far

Miyuden lmao

Stan Mayer Nikola Tesla Walter Russell Nassim Haramein ...

@@doudsbass Any of them managed to build cars for the public worldwide? I would have loved if Stan Mayer would have done it to before his death. I like the idea of tanking only water to drive.

Munro and associates tore apart a model S last winter. stock footage as most results were the same

@Kaven Gilbert Hahahahahaha, I'm waiting. Will they do Solar Panels too? Power Peak stations? Charging infrastructure? I'm happy when they catch up, competition is great, but eat Tesla? No way.

Mike Wright and production delays have nearly driven Tesla off a cliff with cash reserves becoming dangerously low

Only it didn't get a perfect 5 star score though did it. On the IIHS tests it had a brake failure and a seatbelt failure.

THiNk aBoUt it. How would this impact auto insurance business? Auto insurers are better off with fewer fatal accidents to pay out to. Insurance works better if no one gets in accidents given government forces everyone to have auto insurance.

@@themightydash1714 I don't believe IIHS tests are out for the model 3, can you share a link?

www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/national-highway-traffic-safety-administration-issues-statement-about-new-car "NHTSA does not distinguish safety performance beyond that rating, thus there is no "safest" vehicle among those vehicles achieving 5-star ratings."

Almost as good as the advert that showed a model S with an ICE drive train in it....

Chevy BOLT with a B. Stock Image shown is a Volt with V a Hybrid.

All they know is smear

if they just improves their manufacturing process they would be making a lot more money everything else is great

I was going to comment the same thing lol

same here, how about no music

Exactly. I couldn't even listen to this video.

It's especially true on pointless videos and narratives... just like this one.

Agree Cut the idiotic music. This video is loaded with content that is explained by the experts. What bloody value does the background music add here? Dramatization? Hate it. Cut it.

Subtle poke at Christopher Nolan

He's right about the issues with the metal frame. I believe those have been resolved now.

Dennis Polz the bmw i3 had a better Crash rating and saying if it is to hard to built doesnt mean it is safer

also i8 costs about three teslas.. and very unreliable 😂

@@danyala.1659 yes but these morons in the comments are just sucking dick for Tesla, it's an awesome vehicle way ahead than everyone in the case of electric vehicles but their manufacturing is too hard and slow, even though the CEO has always said that but yet these people can never accept some problems

@@eduardosalamanca3808 Yeah, I completely agree with you! I am looking to purchase a Model 3, it is an incredible vehicle. Despite this, I believe that Tesla must be held accountable for their mistakes just as ALL other manufacturers are. People have a tendency to forget that after all, Tesla is a for-profit company and Elon Musk is just another billionaire. Even Tony Stark (Iron Man) made his riches from selling weapons of mass destruction; no one becomes a billionaire by doing good.

"Chevy Bolt" shows a picture of a Volt.

@@Dankman9 I still can't figure out why GM named that way unless they plan to stop selling Volts.

Probably has something to do with that bailout money. Also in most of europe they have the same name (Opel Ampera) but the bolt gets an "-E" attached to the end. So maybe they kind of see it as a different version of the same car? Kind of like a civic hatchback compared to a sedan hybrid? I dunno just pulling stuff out of my ass like they did. ;)

it's good journalism man! spent 0.3 seconds on google hhh

That is mainstream media for you.

AND the thumbnail

That kind of attention to detail is why you should never trust Bloomberg.

I watched to just criticize because the thumbnail was wrong. Wow.

U mean stamping right?

@@franchocou nope, he means casting. using an aluminum alloy tesla came up with in house that does not need to be heat treated afterward.

Aluminum is a beach to fix once it gets a crinkle in a car crash. I know. My car had an aluminum hood, and when I rear ended some truck I was using a sledge hammer to bend back the metal. That is on a 1965 MGB. It can't be heat treated as aluminum will not glow red hot but will break apart like a jigsaw puzzle. It can't be heat shrunk. Steel can which is why they use steel.

Eric, you sir are correct! 🙂

@@franchocou its casting

Well Elon Musk is from another world to begin with ..... sooooo .......

@@packratswhatif.3990 true. He's trying to get back to Mars.

ok they use image from model s and x but what he has is a model 3 body

I was gonna say!! 😂

They also got the Chevy names wrong.... it’s a Chevy Volt not a Chevy Bolt.

The edit is sloppy and incorrect. The Engineer actually knows what he is talking about, the film crew is just dumb and show the wrong cars. Engineer is actually talking about the 3

Actually there are 2 different kinds. The Chevy Volt and the Chevy Bolt coming out in 2019. Maybe he tested this car early. It's very possible. I don't know where it shows the bolt and bmw so check if it is a bolt or not.

Steven Colbare How was his comment anti Elon?

This is bloomberg what do you expect

Hey Siri it's bloomberg and a lot of lefties reside here?

Tadeu Ferreira clicked on this video just to comment this lol

And they said Chevy Bolt and showed a picture of a Volt.

"thats relativity folks."

Munro and associates tore apart a model S last winter. stock footage as most results were the same

@@foreverinteriors soo... you're an apologist.

@@themartianway i have no idea what you're talking about? I suspect you're an EV and ICE novice but smarter than everyone and probably make no mistakes in front of the camera either. Sandy's is an adviser Tesla and has interviewed Musk on his show. There u go mister perfect.

What do you mean? that doesn't make sense

@@foreverinteriors Ford has a disaster on its hands with the Ford focus and fiesta transmissions that need rebuilt every 5 k miles. If that

LaserFalcon so that’s what the problem is, a limited supply transmission that’s built by a German company and has a 50k lifespan. That’s what going to bring down the 115 year old company that builds 6 million car per year. That one transmission? Really? Why are u fixated with this? Why? How does it affect your world. We have a virus problem buddy

@@foreverinteriors As much as most Ford fanboys are also electric haters, and as much as I would like for every company to get over the ICE (it's charming but it has run its course), I would hate to see such a company fail. From reasons of thousands of workers being laid off, to automotive legacy being lost, no true car fan would want that. Even Elon states that he doesn't want to bankrupt anyone, just "accelerate the advent of the electric car". Which I agree partially, and partially because it shouldn't be accelerated, it should already be a thing.

rrs fine but we don’t have to move faster. The earth isn’t going to blow up. I think we need to be methodical and precise. The faster we move, the more errors we make and the more people get hurt. I don’t like any fanboys, be it Tesla or Ford. They are biased and stupid. They simple divide people. They are also not the majority. I like Tesla , I like what they represent, what they build and how they engineer product. I like Ford and all the other products ICE, it’s my industry and the one I grew up in. Life is better when we don’t divide.

When you can't handle criticism and just want to drown out anyone who offers an alternative viewpoint.

Gg

Amen --

You're the man!

Why anyone even NEEDS music in an informational video is beyond me. And if you gotta have it, please at least check your levels before you drop your video.

But since Tesla also has a Chinese market now, they could sue for IP rights infringement...

TASLE, ha ha ha. What a rip off car name. They could get the reverse engineered all those file's. But software is not easy as it looks. I think so.

@@aycc-nbh7289 a foreign company basically can't sue a Chinese company. The courts and laws there are highly protective of natives. And if by some miracle a case gets past those hurdles, there will be other pressures on you to drop it. China is a fucked up place in so many ways, and the more you learn about it, the more you realize that your Western paradigm does not apply.

IKR even elon musk had to say that

Marius Ipad ok mate. Who’s stock is down from this Coronavirus crash in the stock market. All companies bar Tesla. You realise tesla has been innovating since 2003 no one else has made a decent electric car until last year and even so the range is shit and the price is high af. Tesla is in the game of developing the cheapest cars if you didn’t know that you are fucking stupid. What do you think the mass amount of people want, people who don’t care about brands or cars? They just look for a cheap efficient cars.

@Marius Ipad Do you have any proof of the Rimac having "far above" in therms of batteries then tesla. I am not a tesla fanboy nor do i plan on ever buying a tesla but i am just curious where you got that info.

you're right. You don't catch up to the loser, you catch up to BMW, Porsche, VAG, Rimac, Rivian, etc. Tesla=Trash

Scott Graham nah mate tesla is the innovator, others catch a free ride which is fine.

And it even is one of the old ones.

yep, kinda fucked it up no?

They also showed a Chevy Volt, not Bolt.

In America 2018 Jan to Sep Tesla sold 114102 cars, All other brand Ev sold 28846 cars. Just a fun fact.

That showed an old generation of the Model S and not a Model 3! Whoever did the video edit didn’t know what the heck they were editing. Hey Bloomberg you should make a correction video to show the right Tesla model.

Wish I had enough money to buy model x :*(

@Brian Anxieton You REALLY need to check your information! (I was going to say "facts", but that wouldn't be accurate).

Nissan Leaf owners say the same. Electric cars are just way better to drive.

Japan, China, Australia, Europe and even some countries in Middle east have the Tesla supercharging network.

Have a look at their map then... I did a 1'960 km trip using superchargers between western Switzerland, France, Spain and Portugal, it was super easy and convenient to use.

"We don't know what type of motor it is" Really... you're supposed to be an engineer, YOU SHOULD KNOW.

Hahahahaa

@@benlawton5420 what a flop. Tesla's design must've been from an Alien tech

@@benlawton5420 it’s a new type of motor with some strange characteristics. I can see how it would take them a while to understand it. It basically combines the features of a permanent magnet motor with those of a synchronous reluctance motor. So you get the very high starting torque of permanent magnets but the very high speed efficiency of a reluctance and minimal back-emf. The permanent magnets are made of an assembly of several glued together in order to prevent eddy currents and excess heat generation. It’s an incredibly innovative motor.

@@lookoutforchris It's an IPM-synRM and it's not very new, the Nissan leaf has 2 of them.

Ha ha. Sure they did. Building a concept vehicle is no demonstration of technical prowess. Thousands of guys build custom cars in their garages. Flipping a switch and building 2000 vehicles a day *profitably* is the real test.

Scott Griggs their pre-existing tech is a live-evidence of their vehicles , so please shut up

What they listed are no issues, they make the car better, they are issues from their perspective because it makes it more complex to manufacture, but instead of making their product worse, tesla comes up with better manufacturing techniques

I don't think they fixed the excessive rigidity problem. "This truck shows Tesla doesn't know what flex is" To be fair the truck window didn't flex enough that one time.

Daewoo* Fixed that for you lol

Not only was it a model s and not a 3 but it is an old one not the refreshed ones. (New ones without the plastic piece in front)

Samuel Brooks i knew it wasnt a model 3 it was the old model s desing

Samuel Brooks facts facts😂😭

Yea... Wrong Tesla... But they did say the right Chevy. They said Bolt.

I've worked in consumer automotive product development for over ten years. And I too, can say the words "the chassis is too stiff" have never been used.

Racing... where motors are torn apart after each race... Cars are driven for no time on... what kinda track? Wrecked and rebuilt... Vs the real world... just because you all are clueless... don't mean anything. I've seen tow trucks from the 60's with plates frames, all broken in half... cause... NO FLEX IN FRAME, FRAME TOO STIFF FROM PLATING... EVERYTHING has flex... and it is designed into the vehicles...

Wow, I guess you do know what you're talking about Matt. Because tow trucks from the 60's definitely represent built to a budget mass produced production cars of 2018. "Hur dur EVERYTHING has flex.." Great analysis you drop kick. Vehicles have engineered chassis torsional rigidity. Read - That Tesla is built that way for a reason. Probably something to do with the ~200kg of batteries in the floor and insane torque the electric motors produce.

Not my fault that the 60s is when we learned things tesla still does not know. BTW any diesel pick up is putting out way more torque lol... tesla just feels like it has more power because it makes that power right away... Actually pick ups now have even MORE frame flex than they did 30 years ago... as again... we learned many many moons ago you MUST have flex or else things will break... so them saying things were too stiff... could be a very valid issues but all you retards thing stiff = safe... yet everything is made to crumple... rofl... to be safe... So ya its 2018 and tesla is still back in the 40's not my fault...

oh let me add, they took a MASS PRODUCED PICK UP TRUCK... and plated the frame to make it "stronger" ... it took all the flex out... then... they were all breaking in half... cause... FRAME WAS TOO STIFF... so... again not my fault that the words "too stiff" was never heard to you...

My daughter has a Volt, and I know several others who do. They are wonderful pieces at far less money than a Tesla.

I really like Tesla, but you’re biased and a cult follower or sty like that

Roger Starkey how was it biased, sloppy, and full of errors

"supposedly" is right. I frequently find inaccuracies in bloomberg news

That wasn't a model 3 they showed, it was a Model S that's a few years old. They showed the Chevy Volt instead of volt in the picture. They obviously don't know what they're talking about and don't have common sense.

Also the electric engine of Tesla as can be seen at 3:12 is a bit worrisome to me. Those silk wires can snap over time by just unravelling. If one of it does, it could set the engine on fire. I had this once with a €19.- fan. I'm quite disappointed to see this in a car with that price tag. Also, neodynium isn't used by German and the Japanese due to the Chinese monopoly on neodynium mining. China is using their monopoly position to force the handover of intellectual property by giving this to Chinese-based competitors in a "cooperative agreement". Also, neodynium mining is very bad for the environment. This is why the Germans and Japanese use copper-only engines.

@@fudgeyou3827 You *really* have to ask?

Agreed

also saying chevy bolt and showing a chevy volt

I had to look it up. I had no idea there was such a thing as a Chevy Bolt! Volt/Bolt...I thought someone had made a typo in the script... I think the folks at chevy really ought to rethink that name. There's a lot of room for confusion there.

Fire its too much dont be stupid

Agreed

@@Nick.964 I'm pretty sure it's Bolt Universally

Have you read the other comments about how incorrect this video is?.

Donatas Simkus golden

Donatas Simkus People here just cry, not understanding R&D, this is an oldskool guy, it's engineer around the battery solution. Why you need this Bloomberg content, or the RU-vid reactions on chat... Investors are skum people, you just can't trust them!!!! Low level cry people will never understand anything, they just cry.

Ikr

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Guess who would have disabled the comments?

ruben mateus what's the difference?

@@miketheyunggod2534 Both are different models from Tesla, model 3 is much cheaper with a starting price of 46.000€ while model S has a starting price of around 70.000+€ (not exactly sure what's the starting price), model S is a better car overall, but with this is more expensive. You can look that up in Tesla website

Maybe the German stripdown was less than a year old? Munore got a hold of one of the early model 3s and they released their report almost a year ago.

@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 that's not even a Model 3 bro

They didn't like the number of body parts and awkward steps that are needed to join them together.

@@KalleKofot Hey! Idiot! If they *specifically* "introduce" a Model 3, then later *specifically* compare it to a Chevy Bolt, but *both* times, use footage of the wrong vehicle, doesn't it indicate that either; 1) The reporter doesn't know what they're talking about? 2) The reporter didn't watch the finished article and request a correction. 3) The reporter and/ or production staff simply weren't concerned about accuracy or professional integrity? What does that say about the rest of the report? Should it be taken seriously?

It's good if you have a design that accomplishes the same thing with only 3 screw types instead of 40. But if your design does that at the cost of being a completely shit design, then it's not worth it, is it.

I love stiff on's

Not sure irl but on games I like stiffer for handling

Exactly, unlike motorcycle, I mean race motorcycle, with car you want the chassis to be as stiff as possible so that you can hand all the handling job to the suspension system. This will improve not only handling performance but increase a predictability of a suspension when tuning.

Diminishing returns. You're limited by connections like rubber bushings in the suspension. After a certain point, you're just adding weight and potentially removing energy-absorbtion. I imagine the reason for the stiffness is just to prevent flexing the battery pack. You don't want to stress the connections nor disrupt the contact of the cells with the thermal management system.

But not what you need in a road car it is just more expensive

Oh... having spent a few years in latin america... that comment of yours is so funny. It is almost laughable when they load on chicken before or as they get inside the airports. They almost cry when their precious Pollo Campero is thrown into the garbage. But i have to give it to them... their chicken is really good!

You've heard about crumple zones, right? And heavy means less fuel efficient too. Further, have you ever heard of a BMW or Chevy frame being structurally unsound, flimsy, or too flexible? Of course not.

@@philipk4475Some parts of the vehicle must be "crunchy" and the passenger area must be rigid, but the dilemma is side impact - where there is little space for crumple zone. Necks that snap sideways cause terrible injuries.

great comment, you've restored my hope that RU-vid commenters are capable of rational thought

@@ihatemacs9 i have to agree these comments im reading is why i think the internet was the worst invention in the history of mankind

Or you can say, watch your back old man, I'm the Musk

Spoken like a true MBA. Show me the bottom line.

The annoying part about it is Tesla is already making these improvements from the future model Y and its not because sandy said so or anything like that. It's because they learned and are constantly improving. Its like backseat driving/captain hindsight etc. I do partially agree though but Bloomberg rarely gives Tesla a fair shake.

To rigid so what is wrong with that. Guy is to funny.

So are Volvos. Tesla is on to something if they can being their costs down.

Tesla's often aren't painted properly, so the body won't be particularly tank-like in 5 years once its started to rust.

Stiffness isnt necessarily preferred, especially since it can lead to brittleness and cracking, two things that are at the top of a DFMEA of a car frame. Also they are experts, you are not. They understand exactly how a car frame should be designed and manufactured. Those welded brackets are yesteryears tech, which is probably why they found the frame to be the worst part of the car. I actually think this is pretty positive for Tesla. The frame is fairly easy to re-engineer.

@@jordanbell4420 Well, the Model S is aluminum, only the Model 3 has a combination of steel and alum, I chose the S.

This old man is a brilliant engineer with a vast trajectory in Detroit. You, on the other hand, are a disrespectful poor sod making nonsensical comments. I'm pretty sure that Elon did pay attention to this old man's constructive criticism.

@@NJTDover I am sure this old man was very intelligent, but like anything new, things get missed. You on the other hand must have a low IQ.

@@drwhat4395 "you on the other hand must have a low IQ" well that instantly shows how smart you are. ...... not very

JayyEVee loooooooooooooooool omg you surely must mean experts from detroit, aka south korea aka gm korea aka daewoo lmaoooooooooooooooo

hey in the 1920s Detroit had the most electric cars of any city in the world. and these dinosaurs are probably from that era

@@RomrotMechanikos looool yup. They still live in 1920 too

Those "experts" will more likely to steal ideas from tesla and sell them(with their own improvements) to other car manufacturers.

On a positive note when I went to Detroit for an electric car show it was cool to see some of the really old electric cars that looked like literal horseless carriages. pretty classy looking though, it probably only got like 15 miles on a full charge.

too complex / overbuild means that they are constructed in a way that makes them unnecessarily expensive to build is 30% profit margin considered low?

1, stiff does not mean over built... stiff is BAD... stuff causes breaks down the road 2 they are unneeded complex... does "not optimized" help you understand better? 3 no idea where that even came from rofl... did i watch this wrong... the 30% margin was IF A CURRENT AUTO MANUFACTURE WAS MAKING IT... not telsa...

@@johnuferbach9166 The complex build adds to the production time which is bad as it means you have to wait longer for the cars. This is the reason Tesla has pre-orders. The profit margin is based off a hypothetical situation where the Tesla's are built in a conventional factory. As it is I don't think we have access to the exact average cost of manufacturing a model 3. However there is only room for improvement on Tesla's part. Overall though more complex build means longer build time which means less cars for people to buy.

The complex body of the Tesla is a major downside. If this was built by anyone else than a shitty tech start up it might be a desirable product to own, but instead we have a badly built car with worse interior and exterior.

1. I mean.. they're not overbuilt to the point of quality.. the bodies are over-engineered, they're too stiff, have too many parts to them that are all attached in different manners (unnecessary complexity), and their safety ratings are only good because they have all their heavy batteries in the bottom. 2. Complexity doesn't result in a car that lasts, the opposite is demonstrably too. The old cars that are still running today are the simple ones with little tech in them, because the crazy tech is always the first thing to break. Complex cars are bad for reliability, that's why Tesla is rated so low for reliabilty: www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/car-brands-reliability-how-they-stack-up/ 3. No one said they were 'too futuristic' the video was about framing the one big issue, how they're hemorrhaging money at an incredible rate, $800 million every 3 months in gross losses (that's after taking the profit into account.) The only reason they're still going is because Elon Musk is a great hype man that makes tonnes of drama on Twitter to keep people investing.

A Rural Vermonter - Qqjmcb 182 lmao, yeah pronouncing words didn’t seem to be the strong suit of this video. Did you hear him try to pronounce neodymium and mess it up? Hilarious.

@Polydynamix wrong, the volt is a hybrid. And the picture they showed was of a volt but he said bolt

@@ARuralVermonterQqjmcb182 BOOFUCKINGHOO

He said Bolt, because he was talking about the Bolt, ya dimwit.

it was a picture of a volt and he said bolt. Thats all there is to it

I was thinking the same thing lol. I build Model 3's and was like wait that's a model s they have on the rack lol.

*blocks bloomberg*

@splitdog homee Dude, for every fanboy on forums and RU-vid comment, there are 10 times more people in the media picking apart every small detail of Tesla, while never doing the same thing for other EV companies.

acadianalien Shut up, fanboy. You’re on a video where they say nonstop that the Model 3 is the best EV out there, but they criticize the manufacturing methods and you all have your panties in a twist. If you weren’t ridiculous fanboys you’d realize this consultancy just showed that Tesla could be more profitable if they weren’t so stubborn. You want them to succeed right? Then shut up and mix in some objectivity for once.

@@acadianalien you know something is a real good when it gets constantly attacked in the media. Tesla is a real threat to the current automotive industry.

Sandy Munro is a huge Tesla fan nowadays.

Lmfao think God I'm not the only one that thinks Ford ripped Aston's designs

@@bombomos didnt they used to own aston martin? Therefore it's probably their design

@@jake3736 no idea my bro. I always thought Aston was a European company

@@bombomos British

The Ford Mondeo (Fusion for the US) isnt an appealing car to me, I think the comparison to an Aston Martin isnt correct. Maybe have similar shapes but you can't compare the two lol.

and now we know that's all is wrong, he dissasembly wrong car

@@chinainfoxyz blin😂

xyz lol 😂

Powerful people? The youtube commenters? Or the engineering firm lol? They don't work for anybody they do this to many cars and give analysis. Conspiracy-sheep.

Calm down there buddy.

LOL They (Bloomberg) work for their advertisers, of which Tesla isn't one, and many rival automakers are... How is that a conspiracy?

I'm not the only one who noticed clear bias, Keith.

Dorian Wilson You're noticing something that simply isn't there. This was a positive video that basically said Tesla is ahead of its competitors on every system in the vehicle except the body, which seems like a valid point. The guy almost had an orgasm about the motor design. Did you even watch the video?

That is the editor's fault. The engineer actually knows what he's doing. The frame he's shown working on is the model 3 frame

You mean more cheaply, like ford

, & look who's behind this video's publishing; what's their reason for doing it?

More like, what their real motive in doing all this, is.

Yes

they decided to bother with a tesla, theres another mistake

ZbladeVX and why?

Yeah. Tell him. I am sure you know best.

@@bergrud - Then I'm not sure you understand the properties of electric motors or the consequences of deforming lithium batteries if the Model 3 had a poor crash rating he would have a point but it's in fact the complete opposite

It's also crash worthy, and out performs anything Detroit builds when it comes to impacts.

@@nomebear - Absolutely every performance car I've ever reviewed or purchased promotes how much stiffer a chassis is compared to a previous generation this is the first time I've heard a stiff chassis that isn't even defective be referred to in a negative light I'm starting to believe there is baseless anti Tesla propaganda

nomebear Yes it is. But i work with accidents and investigation. And by that experience. I do not own a tesla. Go figure.

He meant it's repair is difficult. It's like unibody

He doesn't have an auto company dude. He owns a world renowned manufacturing consulting firm where they work to help companies improve their manufacturing process. Hes pointing out areas where things are unnecessarily over built, or poorly built.

Thats not what he said at all though...

@@trevorlemon9006 He estimated the cost of manufacture, then pointed out why it costs so much. He pointed out how the wheel well was made of 6 parts when its of no benefit to use more than 2 or 3. Elon himself actually highly respects sandy as a fellow engineer.

@@trevorlemon9006 He estimated the cost of manufacture, then pointed out why it costs so much. He pointed out how the wheel well was made of 6 parts when its of no benefit to use 2 or 3. Elon himself actually highly respects sandy as a fellow engineer.

NVIDIA GPU is no longer used as of over a year ago. Older cars will get their mobos switched out for the new hardware.

Munroe and assoc. praised Tesla for their electronics saying hey were far ahead of the competition.

@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 Incoreect they still use Nvidia chips. The new tesla chip is not released for production yet. And Monroe still has no idea what they are talking about when it comes to advanced electronics or electric powertrains.

It's also a switched reluctance motor

@@ryccoh it's an IPM motor. It has magnets but also has rotor salience so it acts like a SR motor also.

Ali Alexander this isn’t a us vs them scenario, what people are saying in defense of tesla is that the man in the Video stated the cars are “too stiff” and the chassis are “too complex” , when this chassis is the very reason the car handles so immensely and has the highest rated crash test scores. This man is used to seeing a Cost Effective Moderately constructed car chassis, its a market normal, his criticism was that it could be put together in less pieces, be a bit less rigid, and be produced faster. A major selling point for tesla however is having the safest car in history, a feat not achievable with the normal chassis tachniques employed by toyota, gmc etc. no us vs them, teslas are great. Its annoying that people look to hate on them, its an American car.

Thank you. You get it.

@Ali Alexander I will agree there are many fanboys, but you have to agree that there WAYYYY more critics out there who outright deny reality when it comes to Tesla being the future leader in the car industry. Out of context quotes, giving sales numbers without context, constantly mentioning ''competitors'' that never seem to deliver, etc. After a while you really start doubting videos like this

i totally agree im reading these comments and wodered if i watched the same video

@@fliptopmedia he is an engineer that knows way more about chasis than you will ever know damn whats wrong with you people the guy says the car is noy only the best in every area except one the chasis and everyone is bashing him the guy is an expert in making vehicles none of anyone on this comment area knows better he even says with a better chasis it would be even better since they arte way ahead of the game

JMAC LIVES you should start your own car company mr expert.

@@kushkill1 oh wow great reply. 10/10

And we're not saying that he's saying that it's unsafe, most people here are trying to explain that because of the odd design and thickness, it's way safer in a crash.

No. They're saying there are efficiencies to be gained by reducing chassis part and fastener counts. They're also saying that mating the chassis to a slightly different suspension setup would yield improved ride and handling characteristics. That's it.

There are MANUFACTURING efficiencies to be gained, yes. Not necessarily higher quality. Remember, the company that disassembled the car to examine its construction is concerned primarily with evaluating its competitiveness as a mass-produced product, not its outright quality.

Tesla's biggest problem by far is that they cannot build em' fast enough to satisfy demand.

@hyperstrike The model S they showed in the video (not 3 only talked about) has the lowest center of gravity of all EV cars along with air suspension. Ask any owner how planted and smooth that car is around a corner. The Model 3 has traditional suspension but low center of gravity. Drive one then tell me if it's over engineered. Yes they could save some time and money by doing it a little different but that's what makes Tesla.

@Homecomfort got it right. The video is super simple. The production process required to make the chassis is way too complicated and it's a big part of the reason why they can't hit their production target. And no, complication like this does *not* equate to overengineering (like the old Benzes) so no, it's not a guarantee of durability. In fact, with all the tech in this car, it'll cost $$$$ to keep this kind of car running for 10 years!

A lot, I mean a lot of newer cars are badly built, lots are having transmission and engine issues. On a lot of new Honda's they have transmission and engine issues, Toyota had 2 recalls for their hybrid cars, 1 was stalling problem and the other was they had risk of catching fire. 1 of the Volkswagen Passat models is said to be the worst engine in automotive history but nobody talks about these, no way in hell these newer cars will even last 10 years. Annoying how they bash Tesla even though other brands are failing and producing shit cars but owners do not buy the new cars, they lease the car and it's on warranty so if there is an issue they get it fixed, buy one of these newer cars and keep them for 5 years, it will fall apart one by one

Overcomplication does not mean overengineering for reliability. And yes, 10yo Teslas are going to be trash.

Actually, they are bashing Tesla about the car not being buildable.

How do you even take this as a bashing? He literally only listed one problem, and praised every single other aspect of the car.

Tesla can build the best car in the world for all they want, but if they don't get enough profit, then the company might go bankrupt, which is the main focus this video is about. By the time Tesla go bankrupt, I hope you have luck finding a company that can fix your Tesla without specialized tools.

Telsa Makes a Model 3 and a Model S.

@@matthewpaine6908 no shit Sherlock lol

You people are aware that what they show and what has been tested are two different things?

Talmudic Oil minions are foul and see through these days

Sam Richards ...er no he's saying the design of the body is over complicated, expensive to build...hence it's got a lower profit margin and why the shareholders (the owners) are concerned... see to have see this with previous car making nations.. here in the UK included

yeah, but the only problem is that it's overcomplicated. not that it is not good, just expensive. more or less they said the car is great, but it is a bit expensive to build. which if you are the owner of the car that all ready paid for it, you would be like "thumbs up".

he also told that it was a old model and that tesla had already enhanced the process and that they are still open to make it even better. if people actually saw and understood the entire video, it was mostly a praise to tesla and the bad part about being difficult to manufacture was already at least partly fixed and still getting better. quite a positive review, any better and it would be a pure advertisement :)

Not too well made...needlessly wastefully made. Bad for business. Didn't you see the video?

Yeah, bad for business, good for the consumers who already have it.

Next model might as well be called the Chevy Nut ...

They are masters of making good news sound bad when it comes too tesla

Because it’s poorly built with respect to manufacturability. All the production delays caused by its poor design nearly bankrupted the company

In May 2016, musk said Tesla would produce 100,000-200,000 model 3s by the second half of 2017. They ended up producing 2,000. To be wrong by a factor of 50-100x is unheard of. And many of those delays were caused by the design.

Munro's criticisms are valid. Teslas are expensive to repair, which is the main reason why they are the most expensive cars to insure despite being safe cars. insideevs.com/tesla-model-s-tops-list-of-most-expensive-to-insure/

If you arrive to the conclusion that it's a horrible car based on this, well then that's just your idea of it. This teardown and analysis is giving some pretty clear constructive criticism from someone with a lot of experience. I don't see the problem with sharing that knowledge.

better go buy one or 2.....

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Basically what he is saying is, that there's not enough crumple/crash zones in the car. so when it wrecks we take more impact than the car does

again not true.... look carefully at the frame and all the videos where you see crashed cars... the front and back do fold and crumple and do protect the people inside

@@IncredibleSolv but again it was told that the frame is stiffer than usual so yes ppl will take the impact more than usual,

@@Sr.Fluffioso not unless there is absolutely no give, which I can see is not the case. Also remember that the body is mostly aluminium and the stiffness and crash protection behaviour of steel is very different and if the car was only made of steel it might be an issue with no crumple zones.

You guys know that all 3 current Tesla models are literally the safest cars you can buy, right? The probability of serious injury in a Tesla is lower than any other brand.

I remember watching this exact video 1 year before Sandy started his channel...

Gabriel Malek no, wrong

But you don't care to elaborate I see... haha it's not wrong.

Cronin Siglos neither did you?

is way above any other car is #1

First, not third. More specifically, has the lowest VSS score (combined probability of injury) in the history of NHTSA testing. All of the structural metal that Munro was complaining about isn't "waste", it's Tesla going overboard on passenger safety.

Also, Munro got a hold of one of the early Model 3s last year (report is almost a year old). Tesla has made improvements since then.

Nobody said bad. They said needlessly expensive. It's wasteful and poorly designed. Tesla is new at this, of course they don't measure up to those who've been doing it for a century.

Length of manufacturing time does not a make a good car. Look at GM, Ford and Chrysler. They make cheap not good.

What they said is that the body is incredibly stiff, which is good on a race car but an excessive luxury feature or in some cases something undesirable on a road car. A stiff car is more planted but has a rougher ride. As for safety, that has nothing to do with stiffness. In fact, a somewhat flexible frame with large crumple zones is better for crash safety since it absorbs the force of an impact.

He's not saying the chassis is bad. It's simply poor mated with the suspension system. This leads to suspension system underperformance, resulting in sub-optimal handling and ride quality.

hornetluca lol yes

Love his channel

Vloomberg

Pretty sad. I really expected better

@Nij Jin You mean you right? People don't just see the information and think it must be true. Any educated will actually look more at it. But considering you people are already judging before thinking, you must all be in the uneducated pool of youngins.

Drew Hilbig good grief, one man makes a mistake working for a company and the entire company should be shut down

@Nij Jin Your reply is the proof you haven't looked at Tesla at all and its financials and management.

@@441meatloaf *Your reply is the proof you haven't looked at Tesla at all and its financials and management.*

@@asix9178 Typical moron that copies and paste.

Yeah Model X is way different than Model S or 3...

wiibaron They didn't even show a Model X. It was the old design of the Model S but definitely not a Model 3.

No they didn’t

electric is the new 2 stroke!

hes mentioned that bigger automakers don't really listen to him because they are slow and stuck in their ways and is happy to see improvements he suggested in the model Y.

That is the exact opposite of what this man was saying. His job is to reverse engineer and look for areas of improvement. Try honing your listening skills.

jocko john He suggested how production could be made more efficient, he wasn’t being backwards at all

jocko john 😆

Well i think its ridiculous to reverse engineer something like a tesla and then complain about they way they built it when nobody anywhere makes anything that can compete with it. And oh by the way ford dream of being able to build an electric car like a tesla but that old donkey is about 10 years away from being able to make something like today's tesla cars.

Hahaha best comment!

Chevy Bolt and Volt are 2 different cars. The Bolt is the latest one. Better check in the Chevy website before make a comment.

@@kirostar12 He knows, but they shown a Volt instead.

you wanna die! someone unwrap this bubble wrap from this guy and remove him from his safe space please!

a lot of his other points kind of ring of ignorance, too - very strange production

Chevy Bolt was the give away on determining credibility to the video.