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What Everyone Gets Wrong About Miracle on 34th Street 

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@cathyvickers9063
@cathyvickers9063 2 года назад
I always thought "the miracle" was the little girls change of heart, & her family coming together. *That's* the miracle!!!
@niagargoyle
@niagargoyle 2 года назад
I agree. One problem with using words like “miracle” is that people don’t have the same definition of what it means. For some it is a magical event that breaks the known laws of physics and nature. For others, it is something that is just really, really improbable. For me, miracles are moments or series of events that lead people to alter the course of their lives and strive for something better (kinder, gentler, more fulfilling, etc.) than what they had before.
@wildman9922
@wildman9922 2 года назад
Yes the miracle is a change of heart.
@branthebear
@branthebear 2 года назад
and in this day and age even more so
@marianlincoln9008
@marianlincoln9008 2 года назад
For me the the MIRACLE was the CHANGE of attitude of Susan's Mother and her willingness to release her tight grasp of CONTROL on all THINGS to LETTING SOMEONE ELSE have some influence in the HAPPENINGS and Happiness in her LIFE
@sandrahernandez569
@sandrahernandez569 8 месяцев назад
Yesss
@samvimes117
@samvimes117 2 года назад
In the words of Terry Pratchett" just because you can explain it doesn't mean it's still not a miracle
@catherinecrawford3058
@catherinecrawford3058 2 года назад
The scene with the Dutch girl always moves me - being a World War 2 refugee(or displaced person) in a land not her own, she's already lost so very much. Seeing Kris, being understood, and understanding him means so very, very much.
@marke2452
@marke2452 2 года назад
It's a lovely moment that stands out among so many in this wonderful film.
@LeeStJohn-ym4df
@LeeStJohn-ym4df 2 года назад
I've always done my best to sing their song every year. Finally this year I found a site where the song is discussed. Yay!
@jasona9
@jasona9 2 года назад
I agree, that's the most toughing scene of the film! I read that the 'little Dutch girl' was actually an American that learned to speak Dutch by rote just for that scene. She did a fine job, I loved that toothless smile.
@imisseveryone2716
@imisseveryone2716 2 года назад
Of course he is Santa Claus 🧑‍🎄 it was no coincidence that ALL THAT HAD TO HAPPEN, HAPPENED. And remember, when you don't believe in Santa, you get underwear and socks for Christmas😅😉 Wishing all a 2022 that brings reasons to smile. ☮
@eldridgebrown3907
@eldridgebrown3907 7 месяцев назад
My favorite part.
@dawn8293
@dawn8293 2 года назад
Even from a young age, I never thought Kris was necessarily Santa. I thought that one of the finer points of the film was the mystery of whether he was or wasn't, but also the bright realization that it doesn't matter. He is what Santa Claus should be: a joy to children, and an example of hope and selflessness and optimism to adults.
@conkey2000
@conkey2000 2 года назад
Weirdly, I also, when I was a kid, thought that he was definitively not supposed to be Santa-though only because I misinterpreted one of his own lines of dialogue. For some reason, on my first viewing, I took his line before the parade about not being "in the habit of substituting for spurious Santa Clauses" to mean that he had NO experience acting like or pretending to be Santa Claus, and that he didn't want to be thought of as Santa in any way . . . i.e., that even HE was admitting that he wasn't Santa Claus (right away at the beginning)! That made for a confusing initial viewing of the movie, when he suddenly "changed his mind" a few scenes later and started doubling down on being Santa Claus after all . . . Anyway-an interesting misunderstanding to have in mind during your first viewing! (And it never would have entered my head to doubt his Santa Claus-ness, if I hadn't interpreted the movie as telling me so; I was a very gullible and ready-to-believe kid, who would have hopped right on board otherwise. Kind of a strange accident, which came back around to introducing the same kind of skepticism the movie probably assumed viewers would have all along.)
@robertromero8692
@robertromero8692 2 года назад
@@conkey2000 I disagree. Kris claimed to be Santa from the very start of the movie. He tells the guy working in the store window where "my" reindeer should be.
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor 2 года назад
As a kid I didn’t care, the little (non) “miracles” that happened, all coincidental, all made me believe. Doubt yes, but there he sat! A wonderful old Santa guy.
@donstruble7489
@donstruble7489 2 года назад
As a real bearded Santa I strongly agree. This is my favorite Christmas movie. In the last month, I have had two different people tell me that I am the most authentic Santa they have ever seen. I tell them that is because I am Santa. I then do my best to live up to the image of Santa as portrayed in this film. I know I am not Santa, but for a moment I can help an adult or child suspend disbelief for just a little while and share in the magic and 'The Miracle" of Christmas. While I only wear the red suit from Thanksgiving to Christmas, the white hair and long white beard are year long accessories. I have even chosen my cane to match the one in the film. They are my year long reminders to hold Christmas in my heart all 12 months (as we all should, but so rarely do).
@StoryMing
@StoryMing 2 года назад
I have to respectfully but strongly disagree with the premise that the movie makes it unambiguously clear that Kris is not actually Santa Claus. It never conclusively declares that he IS Santa; however, not only does it never rule out the possibility, it seems- to me at least- to hint at the idea that he just may really be who he says he is.
@thevillagestoophousemusic9189
@thevillagestoophousemusic9189 2 года назад
Ditto!
@lisab7320
@lisab7320 2 года назад
I couldn’t agree more 🤗
@jasona9
@jasona9 2 года назад
I agree! Is 'Kris' the "one and only" Santa Clause? By the end of the film the answer to that question is up to each individual audience member. That's part of the beauty of this timeless Christmas Classic. I watched this film when I was a kid and concluded that 'Kris' was Santa. No offense to Steve Shives, but he isn't changing my mind. After all, it's just a movie.
@shelleynobleart
@shelleynobleart 2 года назад
I fully agree with you!!
@anthonypower9121
@anthonypower9121 2 года назад
@@jasona9 I've always seen the "evidence" that he isn't Santa as the cynicism of "adults"; that need to make rational sense of every little detail in their world, and the loss of childlike faith. Steve even points out that that is kinda the point.
@necrotoaster94
@necrotoaster94 2 года назад
Funny how the stars align -- I just watched this with my 11 year old son for the first time tonight. By the end of the movie he was totally convinced that Kris was in fact Santa Claus, as I had been when I was his age. By the end of the movie, I was totally convinced the magic of the movie still works, even 70 years later. Merry Christmas everyone. 😁
@LaineyBug2020
@LaineyBug2020 2 года назад
I always interpreted the miracle to be that there wasn't an actual miracle needed. That one man's kindness spread through those around him and sort of butterfly effected out to touch and change so many people's lives. The part where Suzie was able to pretend to be a monkey was always my favorite part.
@williampetersen9915
@williampetersen9915 2 года назад
There actually is a miracle in the movie. Susan mailed a letter to Kris in the late afternoon / evening and it was delivered to him at the courthouse the next morning. Now that's a miracle.
@donmac7780
@donmac7780 2 года назад
Actually, that was the way the United States Postal Service functioned in that time. Over the last 5 decades, it has been neglected, starved of resources and maligned, the target of deliberate destruction, like so many other government agencies, by the right. It is one of the tragedies of life that ever since the odious Ronald Reagan convinced a huge number of Americans that government was the problem instead of the instrument of the people against the powerful, whole generations have grown up without the knowledge of what an efficient and effective government agency is capable of.
@chuckschafer942
@chuckschafer942 Год назад
@@donmac7780 IN THE 1980S IF IT WERE IN THE "CITY"POSTAL ZONE IF YOU MAILED IT BEFORE 5P IT WAS DELIVERED THE NEXT DAY
@JV-pu8kx
@JV-pu8kx Год назад
@@chuckschafer942 Which is one of the reasons why, if you take your out-going mail to the post office, there are separate boxes for local and non-local mail.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Год назад
@@chuckschafer942 I'm guessing this is for New York. Ours went to Madison to be postmarked and then came back to our town to be delivered.
@TypoKnig
@TypoKnig 2 года назад
For me it’s the Dutch girl scene that convinces me he’s Santa. Dutch speakers were highly unusual in New York in the 40s. Whether he’s Santa or just a harmless nutcase who speaks Dutch, that scene gets me every time. When I think of the hell that poor girl saw in WWII-ravaged Europe, for her to get that moment of joy with her Sinter Klaas is a pearl beyond price. And yes, I’m tearing up just typing about it.
@zjanggurup
@zjanggurup 2 года назад
actually, Dutch was spoken in rural areas of New York and New Jersey up untill the 60s quite a bitt. The whole area used to be New Holland
@studogable
@studogable 2 года назад
@@zjanggurup yes, it was Martin Van Buren's first language. But she KNEW it was him.
@jyvben1520
@jyvben1520 2 года назад
@@studogable Van Buren 8th president of the United States
@kittling5427
@kittling5427 2 года назад
As its a Dutch name the 'van' should remain uncapitalised assuming you're using Dutch grammar rules
@vickymc9695
@vickymc9695 2 года назад
It probably means he served with Dutch volunteers in the great war.
@lucky19teas
@lucky19teas 2 года назад
Growing up my mom made us watch this movie every year. More because we’re Irish and she loved Maureen O’Hara. It’s a great feel good movie. The cast is stellar. Natalie wood, John Payne, William frawley. Even the bit players all excellent actors. Thelma Ritter, jack Albertson. Just well played by all these fine people.
@pirtatejoe
@pirtatejoe Год назад
From a family with an Irish background, my mom loved Maureen O'Hara too. So am sure you've seen the awesome movie The Quiet Man with her and John Wayne. One of my all-time favorites.
@jstnrgrs
@jstnrgrs 2 года назад
Funny. Aligning a string of implausible events is a particular way is pretty much what I've always thought a miracle is.
@richardryley3660
@richardryley3660 2 года назад
To quote Futurama, "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Год назад
Yes, his argument ticking off the events seemed more in favor of a miracle than against it.
@bernardkung7306
@bernardkung7306 7 месяцев назад
@@richardryley3660 There's very similar expressions in various "mystical" religious/philosophical traditions*, such as Taoism, Zen, and Sufism . *) maybe even Jedi?
@kittling5427
@kittling5427 2 года назад
Steve - Other than Kris himself, and at the very end Suzie, no character in the movie seems to sincerely believe that Kris is Santa Claus Kris - Hallo, Ik ben blij dat je kon komen (hello, I'm happy you could come!) Dutch girl - Oh! U bent sinterklaas! (Oh You ARE Santa Claus!) she even uses the most polite version of you becasue when you meet a saint, especially the most loved saint (as sinterklaas is often called in NL) you use polite language! Just saying Its not just Kris & Suzie
@macworks9389
@macworks9389 2 года назад
I always wondered after living in the Netherlands in the early 80s why this little girl would see him as Sinterklaas and not de Kerstman. There was a definite difference from Sinterklaas coming on the 6th of December and the Kerstman bringing presents to children during Christmas time. In my town Christmas was a religious day versus 6 December which was candy and hay for his horse in your wooden shoes...or coal.
@kittling5427
@kittling5427 2 года назад
@@macworks9389 Kerstman in a much newer invention, in the 70's I have no recollection of seeing him - and I really looked for a Santa type person! I'm guessing that in post war Rotterdam the only way she perhaps could have seen Kerstman was if some allied service men got involved (this also ignores the very American accent of the meisje!)
@JessieGender1
@JessieGender1 2 года назад
On this Steve, we both 1000000% agree, this is easily my favorite Christmas movie of all time.
@karahughes7074
@karahughes7074 2 года назад
And like Death in Hogfather who states that (to paraphrase) you can take the universe, grind it down to powder and sieve it through the finest sieve, but you won't find one piece of justice, or one molecule of mercy, so we have to make both or else this world isn't a world worth living in.
@frankbolger3969
@frankbolger3969 2 года назад
A favorite of mine, too, but I could not disagree more on your interpretation of the film.
@guysabol8743
@guysabol8743 2 года назад
Do check on math there is nothing PAST 100%..period, and since the miracle is ones belief in good tiding of man, and its shown most surely, OPEN your eyes and see the forest, do not try to count only the trees! In the P P & M wedding song,...do you believe in something that you've never seen before...? well there's love... there is love. Quickly define love. take as many volumes as you need.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Год назад
@@guysabol8743 Are you familiar with hyperbole?
@shoresean1237
@shoresean1237 2 года назад
Two things: 1 - William Frawley's turn as the Judge's political boss has to be the top of his game. Maybe past his time as Bub or Fred. Frawley: You go out there and tell everyone there's no Santa, and the only one who'll vote for you will be that District Attorney. Judge: (Shakes his head) The District Attorney's a Republican. 2 - Have to dispute your premise, just a tiny bit. After Fred brags that he took a broken down old man and legally transformed him into the one true Santa, he sees what could be Kris's cane in the corner of their new home, and while Susan logically explains it, he says "Maybe... and maybe I didn't do such a good thing after all." At least the ambiguity creeps in at that last second - which puts it acres above the 1994 remake, which was so blatant, why have faith when the film is certain?
@JRobbySh
@JRobbySh 2 года назад
The judge is played by a great character, too. Gene Lockhart played Steve Douglas opposite Raymond Masses in “Abwe Lincoln in Illinois”. Even the guy playing the clerk fooling with the reindeer does his job well.
@sarahdee374
@sarahdee374 2 года назад
It was this movie, then Fred Mertz, then My three sons, along with a lot of other TV and film work mixed in. Very prolific actor. I always loved him.
@TalesFromTheHauntedLibrary
@TalesFromTheHauntedLibrary 2 года назад
The 1994 film isn't quite on-par with the original, but it's also a truly warm, lovely, and genuinely sincere retelling of the story. It may imply a whisper more "magic", but it follows the same road and evokes the same spirit, and I don't think the gentle fantasy elements take any of that away.
@CapriUni
@CapriUni 2 года назад
You're absolutely right. And also (now that I'm thinking of it) the same conclusion could be made of the *first* modern Christmas fable: "A Christmas Carol (in prose)" by Charles Dickens. I mean, there's talk of ghosts all the way through, but there's nothing actually in the story that contradicts the idea that everything Scrooge undergoes that night is actually the result of "a bit of underdone potato." It might, in fact, all be his nightmare. What matters is what Scrooge *does* with his new insight, when he wakes up the next morning, and how he starts caring about other people.
@willmfrank
@willmfrank 2 года назад
"You may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a fragment of an underdone potato. There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are."
@patrick7619
@patrick7619 2 года назад
I don't know if the book differs from the movie versions I've seen, but in almost all versions there are details revealed to him by the Ghost of Christmas Present about the upcoming day that Scrooge could not have known otherwise. Tiny Tim's condition being the most prominent (being an uncaring person, he had never really inquired about Cratchet's family before).
@eshbena
@eshbena 2 года назад
True, but Dickens was into spiritualism, like many others in that period, so it could also just be read as is.
@cripplious
@cripplious 2 года назад
I think the miracle is that in a cynical world that had gone through two world wars and a killer pandemic, one eccentric person can help people find a little whimsy in the world. This movie like The Sun editorial 'Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus." Makes it more about the joy of being a better person and having a sense of wonder. And I still love that in the end, Fred becomes the one who is skeptical about what he's done. Long Live Kris Kringle.
@chrismulwee4911
@chrismulwee4911 2 года назад
Steve, Kris IS Santa. How can you say he's not? The ending makes it perfectly clear. The cane in the corner makes it obvious that the house DID come from him, even despite the For Sale sign. Just look how aghast Maureen and John are in the end.
@oliverbrownlow5615
@oliverbrownlow5615 2 года назад
Why would he leave his cane there?
@Silver-rx1mh
@Silver-rx1mh 2 года назад
Yeah, I agree. I find this chaps take on it to be a tad weird.
@perigraph6644
@perigraph6644 2 года назад
Does it, though? No one stopped Susi, Maureen, and John from walking into that house. The door was open. There was nothing to stop Kris from paying the place a visit and leaving a calling card.
@haskellbob
@haskellbob 2 года назад
He's just burning with the zeal to preach to the world that possesses every prophet or crazy person who thinks he or she is a prophet. He doesn't see the arrogance in his belief that EVERYONE gets these things wrong... except him!
@GS-vb3zn
@GS-vb3zn 2 года назад
The whole video I was wondering how he was going to explain the cane. It’s telling that he chooses not to.
@studogable
@studogable 2 года назад
The cane at the end, along with the Dutch girl scene, convinces me that Kris IS meant to be Santa Claus, or at least that it is meant to be an open question. Yes, I know there were still Dutch speakers in the area in 1947, but that's a hell of a coincidence. If y'all can't tell reindeer apart, that's no reflection on Kris Kringle.
@arcadiaberger9204
@arcadiaberger9204 2 года назад
I definitely liked the ambiguity of Kris Kringle: he *_might_* be Santa Claus, but there's no definite need for him *_to_* be Santa Claus. He very much reminds me of the way I finally came clean to my kids when they asked me for a straight answer about Santa: I said, "When you give someone a gift, or when you are just kind to someone in any small thing, you *_are_* Santa. And more, remember what I read to you about what Jesus said: when you do anything for another person, you are doing it for Jesus."* *Matthew 25:40.
@DeniseDutton
@DeniseDutton 2 года назад
What I really love about this movie is that whichever way you look at Kris, the heartwarming sentiments are still firmly in place. It's an amazing film, with an excellent screenplay.
@davidwoo2590
@davidwoo2590 2 года назад
When I worked at the Macy's Herald Square store in the 1980s I was amazed that the locker room, lockers and the cafeteria looked exactly the same as they were shown in the movie. They never updated nor renovated those spaces for the employees in all those years. I want to think it was for nostalgia sakes.
@gswithen
@gswithen 2 года назад
What's so brilliant about this film is that they could've easily added a shot at the end like Santa flying away in the sky and waving to prove he was really Santa but they didn't. They left it with just the cane. Fantastic movie.
@patrickmccartney2418
@patrickmccartney2418 2 года назад
My daughter, now an adult, has adopted the philosophy of this kind, crazy, old man. She sums it up with the simple phrase “Just don’t be a dick.”
@Seal0626
@Seal0626 2 года назад
Ahh, a disciple of Wil Wheaton.
@alexpage4355
@alexpage4355 2 года назад
Also known as "Wheaton's Law"... which feels especially appropriate for this channel.
@excalibur2024guy
@excalibur2024guy Месяц назад
... like Sawyer.
@cindyfrye3026
@cindyfrye3026 2 года назад
The reindeer in the window of the store that Chris attempt to correct, are most certainly not all the same. They have different poses and physical details, number of points on the antlers for instance. At the end of the movie, Fred doubts his thinking that Chris isn't Santa Claus.
@TalesFromTheHauntedLibrary
@TalesFromTheHauntedLibrary 2 года назад
I don't think he means to suggest they're literally identical as much as they are virtually indistinguishable, and certainly not identifiable as specific individual reindeer such as "Blitzen" or "Cupid". There don't appear to be labels on them, so unless the maker of the figures had first-hand knowledge of the "real" reindeers' appearances there's no way they could be recognizable except in Kris's fantasy.
@LL-vj5yp
@LL-vj5yp 2 года назад
👏👏👏👏👏♥️
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Год назад
​@@TalesFromTheHauntedLibrary They're indistinguishable to us but not to Santa Claus.
@cyndeewenzel6439
@cyndeewenzel6439 8 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@jamesten
@jamesten 2 года назад
Macy's Herald Square (where some of the film was actually shot) still capitalizes on Kris's philosophy. It displays a giant illuminated "Believe" sign over 34th Street. The high point for me is Natalie in the back of the sedan passively and glumly repeating "I believe," whereupon she sees the house. Her realization and transformation, her demand to stop the car, running up the hill to her promised house while the music swells - that's a sort of universal childhood dream. The cane, I thought, was almost placed there as an underscore or period to the statement, just in case there was any question.
@robertgronewold3326
@robertgronewold3326 2 года назад
I'll argue that all the events lining up for Kris and helping him win his case IS a miracle. A miracle is not always a magical event. Sometimes it's just the right place at the right time, the small stuff culminating in something magnificent.
@johnsavard7583
@johnsavard7583 2 года назад
I don't know about your interpretation here, because while he certainly wasn't an active Santa Claus, living at the North Pole, delivering toys to the whole world... he seems to be just a bit too effective at getting things done not to be magical. Knowing Dutch may not be miraculous, but knowing every human language would be, and we never once see him fail at anything.
@Oonagh72
@Oonagh72 2 года назад
I’ve watched this movie my entire life also. Natalie Wood! Woot woot! The first time I watched this film I didn’t think Kris was really Santa until the very end when the cane was left. That single second of film is what makes the movie so great. All of these very logical things that lead to a very logical legal conclusion. Even though there is probably a very logical explanation for the cane being left, the film built such a since of wonder that you go “He was Santa after all!”
@timhawks6101
@timhawks6101 2 года назад
Natalie Wood's facial expressions throughout this movie are priceless.
@cindyfrye3026
@cindyfrye3026 2 года назад
I totally agree, the cane was left to identify that Kris is really the one and only Santa Claus.
@chrismulwee4911
@chrismulwee4911 2 года назад
I would 'have loved for Doris and Bill after seeing the cane, to hear Santa Flying overhead
@1000lilfeet
@1000lilfeet 2 года назад
That is my interpretation as well!
@eshbena
@eshbena 2 года назад
Even Fred's line "Maybe I'm not the greatest lawyer in the world after all" speaks to that realization that Kris really is Santa. :)
@aekaydubs
@aekaydubs 2 года назад
I love this take. Especially the final points. “Strive to be the kind of person worth believing in.” I’m going to strive a little harder to do that every time I watch this movie now.
@waltertomaszewski1083
@waltertomaszewski1083 2 года назад
People nowadays don’t want to believe in anyone other than themselves: belief in someone else means that you aren’t good enough the way you already are, and strangers will invariably misunderstand you and lead you wrong. I think this attitude stops so many people from being better than they could be.
@KingoftheJuice18
@KingoftheJuice18 2 года назад
Your very well-stated thesis on the ultimate, humanistic messages of the film, and the film's committed realism, can all still be true while acknowledging that Miracle on 34th Street does in fact leave the question of Kris' true identity open. This is the thing about many miracles (or "miracles") in life: there's always an alternate, rationalistic explanation (in some religious traditions these are called "hidden miracles"). Even in religious texts, God rarely does open, obvious miracles, undeniable to all concerned. The movie is brilliant because besides the beautiful ethical ideas, it also conveys a message about faith, namely, that it's always possible to turn away from faith and toward a hard-nosed "realism." Not believing is always an option. That's what makes faith genuinely faith, and not a logical, unavoidable conclusion from "the data."
@haskellbob
@haskellbob 2 года назад
Good point. Also, I don't think you can trace back to any one person - or any one creative meeting? - among the staff of the movie who had what Steve sees as "the movie's" point of view. The actor's themselves may have had different takes on it. The screenwriter might have been playfully throwing in evidence for each side. But Steve's use of the little reindeer in the store window all being alike, as proof that Kris Kringle is not really Santa Claus, is pretty weak. The whole thing comes down to these cheesy little toys? Maybe Kris Kringle sees things with his third eye!
@TheMidwestAtheist
@TheMidwestAtheist 2 года назад
@@haskellbob It's a bit frustrating that you would, in a comment elsewhere, accuse Steve of being arrogant, but then come here with this absurd "Maybe Kris Kringle sees things with his third eye!" remark. Perhaps you don't know what the word "arrogant" even means, so I'll help you out: "having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities." It's frustrating how you say "cheesy little toys" is "pretty weak," but your counter is that _maybe_ there's a third eye. 🙄 Some self-awareness would do you good. You also confuse "proof" with "evidence," but that's unfortunately common in our society, though understandable as the words are similar since "proof" involves evidence. (Perhaps a way to look at this is proof requires evidence but evidence is not necessarily proof?) That said, your misuse of the term may come from your misunderstanding of the video. Clearly, the "cheesy little toys" were not the only argument Steve made. So, no "the whole thing" did *_not_* come down to them. If you seriously believe that it was _just_ the toy reindeers that were Steve's "proof," well, then you have an exaggerated sense of your own abilities and hopefully you understand what that means.
@lindajohnson4204
@lindajohnson4204 2 года назад
@@TheMidwestAtheist I would never say "third eye", but I do think that Kris symbolizes the intangibles, the denied, neglected, driven-out-from-among-us, spiritual nature, quality and reality of life, though in the form of the world's most popular fairytale figure (= irony!) It shifts back and forth on whether Kris could be Santa Claus, which we know he couldn't really be, but...just like Fred Galey's final line, it keeps us guessing, although we know that Santa Claus does not exist. But as Fred said, it isn't just Kris who is on trial, but the things he stands for. The reality and importance of those is what the movie keeps shifting back and forth about.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Год назад
@@haskellbob I agree that Kris might see something in the reindeer that we don't.
@racheln8563
@racheln8563 2 года назад
I always fell on the side of his actually being Santa Claus, since a common trope in movies like this is the "this nice old guy isn't *really* Santa--or *is* he?" plot. (With a heavy "wink wink nudge nudge"). We're led to believe the former until something unexplainable happens, leaving the main characters to scratch their heads and say, "I wonder..." while looking skyward. But you make a compelling argument for the opposite view.
@TheKennethECarper
@TheKennethECarper 2 года назад
I don't buy his opinion that the film was completely unambiguous as to whether or not Kris was Santa Claus. I think there's just enough reasonable doubt in the movie that you can decide for yourself. When I was younger I had no doubt that Kris was Santa. Now that I'm a bit older and more cynical, I'm leaning more towards Kris being a crazy old coot. But either way, there's no harm in Kris believing he's Santa. If he walks like Santa, talks like Santa, there's a good possibility he might be Santa. ;)
@1000lilfeet
@1000lilfeet 2 года назад
Agree! His “theory” is just his opinion.
@multitudeofidols
@multitudeofidols 2 года назад
The part that really resonates with me is a business putting the good of customers ahead of profit, all while reaping good business from it. I always think how so many of our problems could be resolved with some selflessness - and still benefiting as selfishly desired. Yet, so much of what I see today - from proposed efforts to fight climate change to the combating the pandemic - makes me feel it's a fantasy to think a business, or so many others, would do such a thing despite it being a simple and logical solution to so many problems.
@dawnadmin8119
@dawnadmin8119 2 года назад
It’s part of the charm of this movie that people don’t start doing good things because meeting Kris Kringle or a cute kid suddenly fills them with the Christmas spirit. They start doing the right things for selfish, cynical reasons, then discover that’s a better way to live. So, fake it ’till you make it?
@ToniHinton
@ToniHinton 7 месяцев назад
When I worked at Borders (RIP) that was our policy. At one store I worked, we had a Barnes and Noble across the street and would call them regularly to find and reserve items for our customers. As my boss (a former criminal defense attorney, as cynical a guy as you're ever likely to meet) explained it, "In a month, they won't remember where the book came from. They'll remember how helpful we were and come back for more of that." And he was right, I saw it dozens of times.
@neocelestia
@neocelestia 2 года назад
Was not expecting to get emotional from this video, but that ending statement got me. Beautiful analysis, Steve! Thanks!
@DATo_DATonian
@DATo_DATonian 2 года назад
I am actually encouraged by the fact that so many people get it "wrong". It reminds me that despite the intent of the writers to leave the question ambiguous, and that you are correct when you say the movie offers no proofs, that there are many many people who have not lost the magic and the innocence of childhood regardless of their age. This was never a movie about whether Santa Claus is real. It presents to us sordid and materialistic aspects of life and then crushes them (IN A COURT OF LAW NO LESS) by what Abraham Lincoln might have meant when he referred to "the better angels of our nature."
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets Год назад
Well, they wouldn't offer proofs if they wanted it to remain ambiguous.
@michaellangwaller
@michaellangwaller 2 года назад
This movie shows just how good Maureen O’Hara and Natalie Wood were as actors. Both understood the subtilties of the characters and their transformation throughout the film and brought them to life.
@ecnalreleam
@ecnalreleam Год назад
Well damn. For all these years, I thought he was really Santa. I loved the film, already, but your explanation has made me love it even more. You made me look at this classic in a new way and find even more magic in it.
@cl8733
@cl8733 2 года назад
Very nice. I've actually never watched the movie, but it sounds worth it.
@StarManta
@StarManta 2 года назад
This as well as It's a Wonderful Life are absolute classics, and well worth watching no matter how old they are.
@orolab1
@orolab1 2 года назад
It’s really delightful and this version is the best one. That little girl is played by Nathalie Wood! Oh right, Nathalie Wood was a very big actress in the 60s 70s and early 80s before her tragic accidental death. Also she was in the original West Side Story.
@pufthemajicdragon
@pufthemajicdragon 2 года назад
"You know, years ago, my mother used to say to me, she'd say 'In this world, Elwood, you must be - she always called me Elwood - In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart, or oh so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."
@stephaniel4679
@stephaniel4679 2 года назад
What I genuinely appreciated about this movie was seeing Maureen O'Hara playing a strong independent single mother with a respectable if not high profile job for the time period.
@jasona9
@jasona9 2 года назад
We can agree this is a timeless, EXCELLENT Christmas film. Where we disagree is how you interpret the ending. It's just a movie, and there isn't an absolute conclusion. Is 'Kris' the real Santa Clause or just a lovable senior citizen? It's up to each individual audience member to draw their own conclusion. That's part of the beauty of the film. I saw the film when I was a kid and thought 'Kris' was the real "one-and-only" Santa. You didn't? That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
@mlneale1959
@mlneale1959 2 года назад
I have always loved the ambiguity that leaves us with the question of "Is he, or isn't he?" The cane in the last scene is possibly my favorite. No, he isn't a wish granting machine, but I have always seen him as a character that knows how to bring out the best in others, including Alfred. In the end, it is suggested that only his cane remains, or is it his cane? Who knows?
@kenm.7651
@kenm.7651 2 года назад
The pure joy he brought to the little Dutch girl…..he was Santa.
@michaelpajaro5153
@michaelpajaro5153 2 года назад
Have to admit I was a little confused watching this. I never thought there was any debate that Kris was NOT Santa Claus. That's the entire point (and beauty) of the movie for me, that everything is based in reality. It's always been my favorite Christmas movie as well. As I think about it more, I think the movie is more empowering without a "real" Santa Claus. It means that we can create our own magic to make the lives of other people better. However, if people want to view it through the lens that Kris really is Santa - by all means enjoy it that way!
@elimgarak4667
@elimgarak4667 2 года назад
I had to get out of my bed to type this, but this one of my favorite videos you've ever made. I've loved this movie since I was a kid. I used to watch it with my cousin and Aunt. Thanks for the cheer!
@RolandWolf
@RolandWolf 2 года назад
Watched these movies (both versions) for the first time this year. I really liked them for having a grounded approach to miracle. This could happen, but the fact that it does is the miracle. As I remember, the house was a already known to Doris. It's being used to shoot Christmas adds for the paper. But might be mixing it up with the 1994 version.
@eweiner14
@eweiner14 2 года назад
Definitely not in the 1947 movie
@michaelsack9981
@michaelsack9981 2 года назад
You can do this kind of analysis to every single movie ever made. However, this is a good example of older movies. They don’t make your mind up for you. They let you decide, based on the events you see on film, whether he might or might not be Santa Claus. The cane in the fireplace at the end, is just meant to let you draw your own conclusions.
@aperturius
@aperturius 2 года назад
It didn't occur to me until adulthood how surprisingly contemporary, and even risky, parts of the story are. Particularly how Maureen O'Hara's character is a divorcee with a child, and not only that, but a successful businesswoman. Very rare in Hollywood films those days.
@Warped9
@Warped9 2 года назад
Like most everyone else at a certain age I was told there was no Santa Claus. But for me there was a bit of a contradiction. My father was born on Dec. 25th and he was christened Noel. Now I am French Canadian and in French Santa Claus is known as Pere Noel (french for Father Christmas). So for me there always was a real Pere Noel. My father did not “Ho, ho, ho,” but he did have a loud laugh, a generous spirit and when he was older a build that would have made a good Santa. And he loved Christmas. Ironically I am the one who actually plays Santa with a custom made suit and I have a very good and natural sounding “Ho, ho, ho.” Oh, and I love the original Miracle On 34th Street. It has long been one of my favourite Christmas movies.
@pdiggity1
@pdiggity1 2 года назад
Happy holidays to you and yours. Thanks for another thoughtful video.
@jcbattistoni
@jcbattistoni 2 года назад
Not me sitting here crying during your much abridged summary of this movie... What can I say? Kindness and love ALWAYS get me.
@rmmccarthy1240
@rmmccarthy1240 Год назад
This is a heartfelt and worthwhile essay; thank you for posting it.
@rickerny6440
@rickerny6440 Год назад
Outstanding. Thank you so much!
@jmg1271
@jmg1271 Год назад
In an interview, the director George Seaton stated that he wanted to make a movie about how the commercialization of Christmas took away from the spirit of the holiday. The idea of Kringle being the real Santa would not work in the film he wanted to make. Kringle speaking fluent Dutch is a clue that the protagonist's real name isn't Kris Kringle. He's some old Dutch guy.
@sorenpx
@sorenpx 7 месяцев назад
The cane in the house at the end, along with Fred's statement that "maybe I didn't do such a great thing after all," indicates that he IS Santa Claus. Not sure how you could've missed that.
@dennisdaily8700
@dennisdaily8700 2 года назад
What a lovely documentary, well written and pleasantly narrated. Way to go, Steve.
@tehcoolemu
@tehcoolemu 2 года назад
I hear what you're saying, but I'm not convinced that there's zero room for the possibility that he's actually Santa. Other people not actually believing he's Santa (e.g., the judge, the doctor at the old folks home, etc.) isn't particularly relevant, since adults in the movie would likely have those same beliefs either way. What you said about the identical reindeer may actually have been the most compelling bit, although even then, it could be reading more than was intended into the props used for a brief scene. In the other direction, while it's obviously far from definitive, his impressive knowledge of toy availability at various stores, and his seemingly fluent knowledge of the only foreign language he came across (and a fairly uncommon one, at that), count towards "not just a kooky old man". Your reading is probably right, and I think you did a good job laying out your case, but I feel like it's still possible to read the movie as *daring* you to hold out a little slice of hope that he's the real deal.
@oliverbrownlow5615
@oliverbrownlow5615 2 года назад
Actually, the point of the scene with the reindeer is that although we and the shopkeeper see the reindeer as being identical, Kris sees differences between them. He sees something we don't see.
@stephencooley8493
@stephencooley8493 7 месяцев назад
Thanks! Great Stuff.
@singularblue
@singularblue 2 года назад
Awesome analysis. Thanks for this. Merry Christmas.
@subpages
@subpages 2 года назад
Man, I love your essays Steve, please don't ever stop.
@stevemor165
@stevemor165 2 года назад
Great clip. Thank you.
@eme.261
@eme.261 2 года назад
I needed this video. Thanks, ya ol' softee. 💓
@lamarhenderson8058
@lamarhenderson8058 2 года назад
Trivia: The postal worker is played by Jack Albertson.
@oliverbrownlow5615
@oliverbrownlow5615 2 года назад
Eventually to be Charlie Bucket's beloved Grandpa Joe in *Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory* (1971).
@jeffnewman6818
@jeffnewman6818 2 года назад
Great video! This is always been one of my absolute favorite Christmas films!
@Nickelini
@Nickelini 2 года назад
Excellent review
@jjpg2000
@jjpg2000 2 года назад
Thanks Steve, sometimes I just want someone to tell me a story, and this was perfect.
@Keleigh3000
@Keleigh3000 2 года назад
That was lovely. You touched the heart of this old cynic. Merry Christmas Steve.
@jjcastaldo4125
@jjcastaldo4125 2 года назад
Steve, What a fantastic video essay! So very well considered. I have seen the movie more than a few times but had never given it any great amount of thought. Thoroughly enjoyed your perspective.
@briantaulbee5744
@briantaulbee5744 2 года назад
I disagree; the cane leaning on the fireplace at the end casts everything into ambiguity regarding Kris. That being said, it's a charming movie, in large part because almost everyone in it is acting in their own cynical best interests at all times (e.g., the judge only lets the apparent farce of a trial proceed because he's worried about re-election), and it still all somehow leads to a happy ending.
@susanowen1709
@susanowen1709 2 года назад
Thank you for a fresh look at my favorite Christmas movie. I never considered whether or not Kris was actually Santa, just vaguely assumed he was. Him *not* being Santa makes a lot more sense, and makes the movie even more wonderful. As you pointed out, we don't need magic after all - we just need kindness.
@mariaferreras5411
@mariaferreras5411 2 года назад
Santa talking to the adopted Dutch girl was my favorite part!
@garysatterlee9455
@garysatterlee9455 2 года назад
The problem here isn't that Kris Kringle is not Santa Claus - the problem is that YOU have a false perception of WHO and WHAT Santa Claus is supposed to be. Kris is very much the REAL Santa Claus. That he doesn't exactly fit our "idea" of Santa is OUR problem. If you are unable to see the MIRACLE of this movie, it's because you are too cynical to "get" what the real miracle IS.
@allialias
@allialias 2 года назад
The "Miracle" is the Power of Unconditional Love. Love changes hearts, minds and lives. 💜
@ruebensfilms
@ruebensfilms 2 года назад
Thank you for this master class breakdown of a film I would perhaps of ignored. Lovely video!!
@tackyman2011
@tackyman2011 2 года назад
Excellent breakdown. Thank you.
@johnrichey7494
@johnrichey7494 7 месяцев назад
The end when his cane is found by the fireplace proves that he is Santa Claus, or, at least might be.
@shelleynobleart
@shelleynobleart 2 года назад
I think this interpretation is the reasoned scenario baked into the script by its writers. For those of us that prefer to dwell in a world of magic realism, Kris is frankly Santa. Merry Christmas! The letters arriving at the courthouse during the trial is what miracles look like. You've never experienced a "miracle of perfect timing"?
@DuncanTheSinger
@DuncanTheSinger 2 года назад
Perfect analysis Steve, thank you!
@Octoberfurst
@Octoberfurst 2 года назад
Absolutely brilliant analysis! I agree 100%. The "miracle" is how Kris changes people's hearts. Not that he is Santa Klaus.
@cyndeewenzel6439
@cyndeewenzel6439 8 месяцев назад
That is Santa Claus!
@DugEphresh
@DugEphresh 7 месяцев назад
God bless you my dude!
@IanZainea1990
@IanZainea1990 2 года назад
very nice video. Thank you!
@leemcginnis5538
@leemcginnis5538 2 года назад
Thanks for the subtitle pun. "I don't think so." It was a treat to the lip-reading, subtitled community.
@ladyjames6742
@ladyjames6742 2 года назад
Great video
@oliverbrownlow5615
@oliverbrownlow5615 2 года назад
A wonderful exposition of what makes *Miracle on 34th Street* so great.
@rogercline5377
@rogercline5377 2 года назад
Kris may or may not be The Actual Santa Claus, but it's undeniable that a miracle certainly does occur in the movie.
@joycesky5041
@joycesky5041 2 года назад
I’m 65 years old and has always been my favorite Christmas movie and still is…yes I still watch it till this very day.
@briandonegan8480
@briandonegan8480 2 года назад
The best part is that this is not the end of the story. It goes on. Remember the dead letters? They are no longer dead letters. The US Postal Service now takes the letters to Santa Claus digitizes them and publishes them online for anonymous people to fill in the name of Santa Clause
@spockofdune8657
@spockofdune8657 2 года назад
very good analysis :) xmas is a state of mind indeed, very warm video thanks
@nicholasfranghias9542
@nicholasfranghias9542 8 месяцев назад
This iconic film is right up there with Casablanca, Sunset Boulevard, It's a Wonderful Life. Yes, movies like that CAN make our world a better world. And what great commentary! Thank you.
@dougwylie1906
@dougwylie1906 2 года назад
Susan asked Kris for a house to prove he was Santa and it was the very same house she was dreaming of and her room was just like she knew it would be. Santa Claus. Case closed. This guy was watching a different movie than I was.
@terryloh8583
@terryloh8583 2 года назад
Excellent analysis of the film that in no way lessens the enjoyment of the film! Well done. Another great video.
@alexpage4355
@alexpage4355 2 года назад
While this was a fine video, overall, and I agree with almost everything you said, I think you're letting your own world view and values color your perspective a bit too strongly and blind you to the fact that there is actually some room for interpretation. Things like the cane in the house at the end hint at a Kris being Santa, but you could just as easily argue that's a red herring, intended to make it appear like there could be some last-minute Twilight Zone-style twist, when the truth is still perfectly mundane. At the same time, however, you could argue the same thing about things like Kris's address. If Santa was spending a lot of time in NY, he'd need a place to stay! Why not someplace where he'd fit right in? You could say the same thing with reindeer miniatures. The shopkeeper clearly thinks he's insane, sure, and the reindeer all look identical to us... but you'd see the scene play out the exact same way if he were Santa and the set was modeled on his actual team of reindeer. We'd never be able to tell them apart, but he certainly could! That's not to suggest your interpretation is wrong. No, it's absolutely valid for all the reasons you outlined! That's one of the things that makes it such a great movie: that it _does_ work on that level! It's one of the few Christmas movies that doesn't _require_ buying into the existence of a magical elf or a divine god baby to work ... or that there's just something magical about the month of December that makes everyone better. But, just because it absolutely works on that level (and I'm actually inclined to agree with your interpretation), I think suggesting it's the _intended_ reading and anyone who came away thinking otherwise is "wrong" is a bit reductive.
@stevehinnenkamp5625
@stevehinnenkamp5625 2 года назад
Great analysis! It actually increases my admiration for the wonderful, classic film.
@adlerludvigsen6584
@adlerludvigsen6584 2 года назад
A beautifully presented analysis of this classic film. Thank you for your insights and advocacy.
@tobybartels8426
@tobybartels8426 2 года назад
I'm only 2 minutes in (and I don't think I've watched anything on this channel before), but I just got to say, *thank you* for understanding this movie! This is why I love this movie, and you get it!
@jrbaskind
@jrbaskind 2 года назад
A very good summation of what the movie is really all about!
@TheGamer201291
@TheGamer201291 2 года назад
Merry Christmas Steve
@cafiend
@cafiend 7 месяцев назад
I totally understand your analysis. It gives me even more respect for the craft that went into writing the film. The mechanics should be plausible, and still they manage to effect change and inspire an enjoyable touch of mystery.
@theemeraldboars484
@theemeraldboars484 2 года назад
Great review, this is film classic well-deserved of it's status as an all-time great. My favorite holiday films are BBC's "Hogfather" and Gremlins, odd pick I know, but those are films that really capture the Christmas spirit for me. I do want to say though that Bruce Timm's "Justice League" animated series has a Christmas episode which is also something special.
@EricFarwell-gh9pw
@EricFarwell-gh9pw 7 месяцев назад
Now this is my favorite of your vids, seeing it for the 1st time...I like it better than all the times you agree or brilliantly disagree with me about Trek. Fine job, man.
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