The message Troy gave in Dec 17 your quoting was dead on right. 1990 was the year the Soviet Union was falling apart, six republics broke away and it was chaos. True In 1991 the break-up was finalized but 1990 was the year of headlines and fear of a rogue nuclear attack. He talked about a nuclear bomb and workers digging up the past. That describes the cold war mentality and the quick unclear break-up of the Soviet Union. Also Troy didn't say the war would start in January 2022 but "unsettling reports" would be heard in that month and that's exactly what happened. The White house started saying Russia was going to attack Ukraine for sure in January 2022. Dude was right on the money in this prophecy.
Thanks for your reply. However, I'm going to disagree with your assessment. The Soviet Union's collapse seemed to begin in 1989 as Azerbaijan declared sovereignty. Things continued to happen throughout 1989 and 1990 culminating in the final collapse in 1991. To pick 1990 as the year is strictly arbitrary. Why not pick 1989? You said, "He (Troy) talked about a nuclear bomb and workers digging up the past. That describes the cold war mentality and the quick unclear break-up of the Soviet Union. First, Troy NEVER said anything in his video about a "nuclear bomb." That was something you added. Please refer to his video and listen again. Secondly, you said, "That describes the cold war mentality and the quick unclear break-up of the Soviet Union." Again, this is something that you added. Troy never said that. If you are claiming to be a prophet, please provide some evidence so that we can know that your prophecy can be trusted. Regarding "unsettling reports and unrest," Troy said that God told him this would happen BY January, not IN January. Let me ask, when do we NOT hear unsettling reports? These are constant. It is like predicting that Colorado will see snow this winter. Troy was not "right on the money," he missed it. Dane
@@Featheredprop Paraphrasing Troy's exactly words starting 4:25 [I was seeing a missile heading down toward the land from high in the air. And I was looking from the above view so I could see the land below this missile. Then I saw this second vision and I saw an underwater digger like a machine that was digging into the dirt under the water. I saw as this machine started to pull up these big metal tubes(multiple missile launching tubes) out of the ground and I heard the Holy Spirit say, "Digging up the past, Digging up the past" "Some of the things that happened a year after you were born are going to be racked over the coals again." I was an adult in 1989-1991 and I was a daily witness to the Soviet Union collapsing. 1989 was a year you were wondering, "what's going to happen to the Soviet Union?" In 1990 the USSR was basically over and beyond repair; the fear of a nuclear war was ending. It was an amazing time. The fear of nuclear war I felt go away in 1990; I feel it return today with the Nato/Ukraine war with Russia(raked over the coals again). Troy's vision was perfect he just didn't understand what he was seeing. We also saw unsettling reports sent out by the White House in January saying, "Russia is going to attack Ukraine!" . I didn't believe it and told my friends it wouldn't happen. Even the Ukrainians didn't believe it would happen. The following month in February Russia attacked Ukraine. Troy nailed this prophecy. Without a doubt I know the interpretation of Troy's vision to be correct. Because I lived it/am living it.
@@robertogomez8128 Again, I appreciate your thoughts and taking the time to go back and listen to Troy's video. We can both agree now that Troy never used the word 'nuclear.' While it is true that we began hearing more and more reports about Russia at the Ukranian border in January 2022, the US was aware of the build up of troops there since the Spring of 2021. US officials had been warned of a possible invasion long before January. I believe that if want something to be true we can interpret the data anyway we like to make it come out that way. In this case if we ignore some dates and focus on others, if we interpret some pieces of the vision a certain way, then we can easily make it come true. Dane
@@kristhomas2326 I had not heard of Brian Holdsworth before. However, at your suggestion I listed to his video on Reason. I liked what he had to say. It made a lot of sense to me. Was there something about that video of his that you were wondering about? Dane
True Christians with the gift of discernment can see all these ppl using God for gain...and matter how much u warn them..they are lovers of themselves and NOT GOD. He told us they would come...unless they repent..they will be cast out...no fear of God in this evil disgusting world...but one day..they will stand before The Lord...in all their shame..Woe to the wicked.
Yes, I agree!! I use to listen to all this rubbish as a young Christian, but the Holy Spirit gave me the gift of discernment and I can see straight away if someone is not of God. I am so grateful for this gift and I give all Glory To God for it!! There is no fear of God in peoples hearts anymore. It’s so sad to watch this. I hope they all repent!! Troy Black is doing what he is doing for money, for gain. He is an obvious false prophet!!
I believe that I was very careful not to go after Troy personally. This was about the things he said which did not come to pass, not about who he is. If you watch my first video on him you will note that I was very careful about that. Dane
@@Featheredprop Dane, I have only watched a few of Troy's videos, but the Holy Spirit shows me he is not a deceiver. I don't see that he is deeply into interpretation of what he believes the Spirit shows him. He reports. I was particularly impressed with his video on the former president of the US, how God uses evil human beings to bring about his holy purposes. I am not of Pentecostal persuasion, so if he were speaking in tongues, I would be very skeptical if there were no one present to translate; but I believe the scriptures that advise us to test the spirits. You are wise not to hurt this man of God. The Bible states in Acts 2:17 that "In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams."
@@jojogo22 where does the Bible states that those receiving visions will not do so ALL THE TIME? That may be so, but I don't remember that scriptural reference. Pray for discernment when listening to those who claim these gifts, though. I agree that false prophets are running rampant right now.
@@jojogo22 I think when we begin to ascribe limitations to God's potential to communicate with any of us, we need to look at our own motives for doing so. I fully appreciate what you are saying, about the unusual nature of repeated visions, dreams, and such coming from God. I will agree that he has tapped into a market strategy with his titles, and that feels a little "of this world," I suppose. Again, it's always our job to request that the Holy Spirit gives us discernment. There are some very convincing actors out there, for sure. My sense about Troy is that he is very excited by sharing his love of Yeshua, and hoping to reap a harvest for Him.
@A.M perhaps God is clarifying what we have not clearly understood. Imagine tuning a violin. The pegs located in the scroll box are the macro tuners. They get us close to "in tune." But then there are fine tuners on the tailpiece that bring the strings to the perfect vibration. It is then that the overtones vibrate brilliantly and the spirit of the instrument is released. The macro tuners represent the original prophesy. The fine tuners are God-given clarifications, reminders, drawing us closer to understanding and increasing awareness, represented by the overtones. We serve a living God who sent his Holy Spirit to guide us. Do not limit God. Prophesy today should be clarification and not change the trajectory of biblical prophesy. Ever. When it does, it is false.
This is what God said re: false prophets in Jeremiah 23: 25-40. “I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, ‘I had a dream! I had a dream!’ 26 How long will this continue in the hearts of these lying prophets, who prophesy the delusions of their own minds? 27 They think the dreams they tell one another will make my people forget my name, just as their ancestors forgot my name through Baal worship. 28 Let the prophet who has a dream recount the dream, but let the one who has my word speak it faithfully. For what has straw to do with grain?” declares the Lord. 29 “Is not my word like fire,” declares the Lord, “and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces? 30 “Therefore,” declares the Lord, “I am against the prophets who steal from one another words supposedly from me. 31 Yes,” declares the Lord, “I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, ‘The Lord declares.’ 32 Indeed, I am against those who prophesy false dreams,” declares the Lord. “They tell them and lead my people astray with their reckless lies, yet I did not send or appoint them. They do not benefit these people in the least,” declares the Lord. 33 “When these people, or a prophet or a priest, ask you, ‘What is the message from the Lord?’ say to them, ‘What message? I will forsake you, declares the Lord.’ 34 If a prophet or a priest or anyone else claims, ‘This is a message from the Lord,’ I will punish them and their household. 35 This is what each of you keeps saying to your friends and other Israelites: ‘What is the Lord’s answer?’ or ‘What has the Lord spoken?’ 36 But you must not mention ‘a message from the Lord’ again, because each one’s word becomes their own message. So you distort the words of the living God, the Lord Almighty, our God. 37 This is what you keep saying to a prophet: ‘What is the Lord’s answer to you?’ or ‘What has the Lord spoken?’ 38 Although you claim, ‘This is a message from the Lord,’ this is what the Lord says: You used the words, ‘This is a message from the Lord,’ even though I told you that you must not claim, ‘This is a message from the Lord.’ 39 Therefore, I will surely forget you and cast you out of my presence along with the city I gave to you and your ancestors. 40 I will bring on you everlasting disgrace-everlasting shame that will not be forgotten.” This should cause us all to use extreme caution whether giving or listening to “a message from the lord.”
I have watched several of his videos taking much of what I see or read from other's prophet-type experiences with a grain of salt in caution. I do, however, closely evaluate any scripture reference or Christian premise carefully, with prayer and humility. I have personally found that Troy Black is authentic in his love for God, and almost always, what he shares has the uplifting, encouraging element of deep faith and trust that God is working on many levels in this world and in the lives of believers--spiritually and physically. It ALWAYS causes me to move closer to the Lord and pray more. That is a very good thing in my opinion. God bless all you readers.
Thank you for this, I wanted to give up but this message gives me so much hope, my husband died three years ago making me a single mother. I miss him so bad. I’m truly alone. I have no family nor friends. Both of my sons are autistic and non verbal. I’m struggling to provide for them since losing my job over not getting the vaccine. I refused due to my declining health (Lupus) and heart disease. We are facing homelessness. Please keep me in your prayers. I’m losing faith. Thank you
Praying for you dear sister!! I wish you lived near me ….just south of Buffalo, NY. I would be your friend in a heartbeat! I will be praying that the Lord would send you a very special friend!!
I'm very sorry to read about your struggles. I can only imagine how difficult things must be for you. Even now I am whispering prayers for you that God provides in your struggle and that your faith is rekindled. Peace to you, Dane.
Ok, so I'm hesitant to some of the things you've said, but I did understand it and I've been keeping it in mind. I think Troy may be going a bit too far, but not intending to. I don't think his intent is to mislead everyone or mishear God. The Bible talks about warning brothers in Christ when they're going the wrong way so that they can come back to the right things. I don't believe Troy is completely in the wrong but might be going too far without thinking about it. I don't believe that he's speaking demonic messages because a lot of what he says has good theological truth and does line up with the Bible excluding the actual visons. His words sound like devotional concepts and that's not a bad thing at all, I think he should do that, but maybe say that "I feel like God was showing me this." or "This thing reminded me about God" I've personally had a few dreams that reminded me a lot about truths from the Bible. One time I had a dream the night after I asked for one and I really believe I was reminded that God works all things together for the good of those who love him and are called according to His purpose. It was bizarre dream, but the message stood out and it was so clear to me, and I believe God can use dreams to speak to His people and remind them of truth, but the most important thing is seeing if it lines up with scripture. Troy might be going too far, but I think his heart is in the right place and he wants to do the right thing. I haven't watched all of his videos lately, but I haven't seen anything untrue yet. This is just my opinion, and it is true that reading the Bible is much more important than watching prophecy videos or even devotional videos.
I used to believe that about Troy too but the pattern cannot be ignored. He is in this for the money, a scam artist. He does get a lot of money from contributions.
Even Satan knows theology. Satan knows scripture. Why do you think it’s so easy for him to deceive people? Because the enemy will perverse the message just enough that it sounds correct but it’s not. It’s false. To those whom much is given, much will be required. To those teaching and leading they will be held doubly accountable. If they are found guilty it will not be slight.
Troy does not always interpret his own dreams and words of knowledge on spot but he is humble Not proud, Not arrogant and Not a know it all. He doesn't ask for money and he does the best he can. He doesn't go around arrogantly slandering prophets. May God have mercy on the souls who do. God does not miss.
He makes a lot off every RU-vid video. Many RU-vidrs make a high 6 figures off of it. He’s making money doing this. Which is why he posts almost daily. If God told him to share a word of knowledge, God would ensure he got it right. Period!.
It doesn't matter who it is, but for anyone to constanty saying that "the Holy Spirit told me", or "God told me", or, the Lord told me, I am always wary of that voice. And more so when there are vague references to 'details', which are not always verifiable. I don't question his sincerity of heart, that's not for me to do. But we can and must examine by the Light of God's Word, content spoken in public or actions taken.
Sir before u place a judgement or call someone a false prophet,go to the Lord Jesus in prayer.about the individal,pray & ask God about the person making such prophecies,ask God is toy black hearing from u...and do this with fasting and humility...if ur heart is sincere before the Lord , God will give u an answer but please dont let ur motives be controlled by ur adamic nature....peace to u sir in Jesus name...
Everyone is absolutely entitled to their observations and opinions. And those opinions should be respected, although we may disagree. God himself respects our free will. In regard to Troy, I will say however; that I have personally heard Troy Black ALWAYS create a distinction between the visions he recieves & what he hears from the Lord vs. his actual Interpretation of what he is seeing/hearing. When he is unsure of what something may mean, he has been honest and has stated that he is unsure. He always notes that he is human and prone to mistakes yet holds himself accountable by reiterating to his viewers to bring to the Lord in prayer for yourselves, what Troy Black himself has shared; to receive clarification/confirmation from the Holy Spirit himself. He has also encouraged his viewers to test the spirits when receiving a proclaimed "word from God". Anyone who is not pure of intentions would most likely not advise you to test the spirits nor to pray to God about it. Furthermore, in his human nature, he can absolutely make a mistake. Since day 1, our relationship as a human race and our relationship with our creator and Father has been one where it is in fact through grace that God demonstrates his power amid our mistakes. I pray that we all pray for discernment about ourselves and one another and that despite all, we focus on the main thing the Lord commanded us to do; Love one another. Be blessed!
But why use the video title of "God told me this or God showed me this" every single time when in the content he is unsure of what he has been told? Is it clickbait? Why does he always use God's name? I fear God and only use His Name reverentially when I am very certain about something that has to do with God and is from God or in His Word.
I completely understand your point, especially in regard to "using" the Lord's name and the reverence portion. It may be click-bate, it may not. I don't know Troy personally to vouch for him 100%. The word mentions God searched the earth and found not one good soul. Only God truly knows the heart. He seems passionate and genuine to me but I am not God and could be prone to error. The enemy however, is efficient and crafty in creating division. Which is why I try my best to give the benefit of the doubt without being nieve. It is certainly a challenge. If your perspective is different and there are things about how Troy executes his ministry and his intentions, I encourage you to pray for discernment about him, directly from the Lord and even provide feedback to Troy himself in respect and transparency about how you feel. I think it would be absolutely acceptable considering it is a public platform.
People seem to think that admitting they are/were wrong is a sign of weakness. I believe someone admitting they are/were wrong is a sign of strength and good character. Oddly, that applies to listeners as well the person speaking. Many will never say a self-proclaimed prophet is wrong because it would be an admission that they were duped so they look for ways to validate what they were told in order to hide how easily they are mislead. I've kind of been looking for your follow up to this "subject". I agree with your conclusion and hope he contacts you. God Bless, Peter
This video reminds me of truth exposed videos and a few other similar ones. Never giving Jesus glory, clipping other peoples videos and using them out of context and judging others. I like that Troy is obedient and continually growing. I don't need perfect but I do need to see the love of God. I just don't find that here. Old school religion and religious spirits have really hurt the unity within the Body of Christ. We have fallen so far down the religious church and follow the science hole that that we cant even see the Love and Truth that God really wants for us. May God Bless you and may he Bless Troy
Thanks for taking the time to comment, Jason. You had suggested that I had taken things out of context, but you didn't give any examples. I had worked hard to give Troy every benefit of doubt and to make sure I had understood him correctly. Could you please indicate where I had misunderstood him or taken him out of context? I don't believe that I had done this, but if I missed something than I want to know what it is. Thanks, Dane
That really seems to be how some charismatics approach the issue of prophecy. I've dealt with this very thing, and when I came back and judged the accuracy of the words spoken, I got animosity, almost as if I am not allowed to question these people or judge the veracity of the statements.
Bill, that is a good sign of a cult: you can't question. When you discover that you can't think critically within a certain framework, then you know it's time to leave. Dane
@@Featheredprop thanks Dane for a good synopsis. This is an important video. We should approach all the "RU-vid prophets" this way. The Bereans checked Paul (Acts 17), Paul checked Peter (Galatians), and Priscilla and Aquila took Apollos aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately (Acts 18:26). Some people have a great aversion to being questioned or checked. That's just too bad, because there is scriptural precedent for it. And misrepresenting God is a very serious issue.
You are SO RIGHT!!!! Troy and a few others in my estimation are a bunch of wanna-bees!!! For Pete’s sake….he is having more words from the Lord than the prophets of the Old Testament!
Troy Black is infuriating. And what is even more disheartening is how many people believe him. I don't know if he truly believes that God is speaking through him or if the enemy is making him think that. God does not need Troy to speak for Him.
It's so interesting how these false prophets address their failed prophecies by saying that their (proclaimed) timetable was not necessarily God's timetable. Or that their clear (failed) prediction should now be seen in a metaphorical sense.
Yes, that's the switch tactic: when it doesn't happen literally, then we're told that it must be understood figuratively. Yet, they can't give us a sign to prove that this is the way God wants us to understand the dream or vision! Dane
God is the same in Old and New Testament. You are right that it is dangerous. Reading comments online here and there Reveal most people believe what they're told by complete strangers. The Bible tells us, "Know them that labor among you." 1 Thessalonians 5:12. Many lying prophets on the rise and Jesus warned us in Matthew 24. Thanks for the good word, brother
Be careful because you also will have to face God and give account for your actions and you will reap here on earth the fruit of what you sow. God’s Grace towards us sinners and Troy is much bigger than what you are extending to Troy publicly. Who are you to speak about Troy’s heart intentions that ONLY GOD knows. Since when you became the judge of a brother? We are all imperfect do not forget it and We all need a measure of God’s Grace every day.
To be fair Troy stated in the video it was only his impression after researching wars in 1990 that the conflict would be in the Middle East but said he didn't know specifically if he was interpreting it correctly. Looking back it's appears the vision was referring to the old Soviet Union's missile capability and the new Ukraine conflict. 1 Cor 13:9 For we know in part and prophesy in part. 1 Cor 9:13 Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophesy reveals only part of the whole picture.
I agree with you that, maybe that was the case. The question I have is, what purpose did the prophecy have? What are we supposed to do with it? A sincere question.
@@TroyWilkinson978 I believe God is using Troy as an example of how the gifts of the Holy Spirit are still available to us today. Many think they ceased a long time ago, but others believe they're still available to those who ask. Prophesy is like the gift of wisdom. You can use it to warn others but unless you're a leader of a nation or directly related somehow the best you can do is plan for it.
@@dennism9059 I appreciate that Dennis and do believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit being in action today. I'm just not seeing a lot of value in most of his prophecies. In most prophesies of his there is no actionable intelligence, no real direction for prayer, so what is the point? I'm not saying that Troy isn't a decent guy who loves the Lord, please understand. Prophecy is given for encouragement, correction and confirmation. Which category do his prophecies fall into, and why? I am really trying to understand.
Jer 7:24, "But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward". Jer 13:10, "This evil people, which refuse to hear my words, which walk in the imagination of their heart, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing". Jer 23:17, "They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you".
troy, in his videos he cries without tears and in an instance start laughing then he starts moaning in pain from the HOLY SPIRIT while reading his notes. troy fools a lot of gullible Christians. troy claims in the presents of GOD he hears a wonderful song written by a satan worshipper and GOD shows him some mythical god, that makes no sense. troy claims he gets his prophecies from the HOLY SPIRIT but the greatest amount of his prophecies do not come to pass and that’s blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT because the HOLY SPIRIT perfect and cannot give you false or vague prophecies. JESUS said there’s one sin you will never be forgiven of is blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT. The Bible is clear, blaspheme the HOLY SPIRIT and you will never be forgiven. troy can blaspheme the HOLY SPIRIT because he has no fear of GOD.
God still speaks! You can find him and know him personally. Jeremiah 29:13 you will seek me and FIND me when you search for me with your whole heart. Isaiah 45:19 I have not spoken in secret, from somewhere in a land of darkness; I have not said to Jacob’s descendants, ‘Seek me in vain.’ I, the LORD, speak the truth; I declare what is right. Also his sheep really do hear his voice! John 10:27 my sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me. John 10:14 I am the Good Shepherd I know my sheep and MY SHEEP KNOW me. Troy Black is most definitely one of the Lord's sheep. How do I know these things? Because I know the Lord personally. When you know the Lord, you know when someone else is speaking to and about the same Spirit. There is no one that is perfect except God. It's not always easy to hear His voice perfectly. But also God only speaks in part. Being human, it is only natural to try and fill in what isn't given. But Troy makes it very clear when he saying something whether it's from the Lord or his thoughts. God uses prophecy just like he always has and he tells us about feature global distress and what He chooses for the exact reasons He told us in scripture. He uses it to speak to his people but also he uses it for his glory. We first and foremost, should all have a personal relationship with the Lord. When we hear prophecy or honestly anything we should always take it back to the Lord in prayer. His ways are not our ways and if there is anything we should have learned from the Old Testament, it's we shouldn't put God in a box. He is capable of doing new things that humans would not have guessed. You'd be surprised how helpful it would be if you'd listen to Troy's advice and draw closer to the Lord. If you don't know the Lord personally, start by calling on the Lord with a humble and contrite heart, by sorrowfully admitting you need Him not only for His sacrifice but to lead you to Him, teach you, to sanctify you and literally everything else. We are capable of nothing without the Lord. There is so much deception and the fact that the Lord's ways are not our ways, we could never find the Lord without Him leading us to Himself. Lean on the Lord for all things. Seek a relationship not religion.
God will tell a prophet exactly what to say and everything the prophet says will come true. if it doesnt, the prophet said something God did NOT tell them
There are a bunch of “Wanna-bed” out there!! For Pete’s sake …Troy and a bunch of others have had more prophetic words from the Lord than those of the Old Testament…give me a break!!
So you didn’t cover the fact that a lot of his prophetic words have come true (Ukrainian invasion in Spring, etc). I agree you should Willy Billy give prophetic words saying “this says the Lord”, but at the same time, would you agree God does speak and give Words? He does, denying the power thereof is ANOTHER precaution we need to take.
Thanks Dane. Just a thought that goes thru my mind is we need the presence of Jesus to show up in the U.S. not another word from a false prophet. His presence is game changer.
Ask the Lord and you will receive if you do not ask how can you receive. Do not give up on Our Lord Jesus Christ he is the savour there is no one before him nor after him.
and who are you to judge? Troy is genuinely just spreading the good news, bringing people to Jesus. Pray 🙏🏼 and seek God through Jesus. Troy is not off.
@@nickrocks8539 May I suggest you do a study on the word 'judge' in Scripture - especially NT. Jesus tells us in one place 'not to judge'. But then in another place he tells us to make righteous judgments. He also said - take heed that NO MAN deceive you. Also read Paul's letters - particularly 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22. If someone says anything publicly it is open for investigation. To introduce 'words' to believers saying "the Holy Spirit told me" MUST be taken very seriously, and we are NOT to simply believe what follows without proper assessment. . This is both irresponsible and dangerous. No one is immune from examination. Paul says to the Corinthian assembly that when a prophecy is given in the assembly, the 'other prophets' are to judge. Paul rebuked Peter publicly because of Peter's public hypocritical action (Galatians) Paul says to Timothy that the "Holy Spirit expressly says - in the last days many shall give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils." I believe Paul's words above anyone else's in todays scene. It is VERY prudent to take Paul's word very seriously. There is a place for judging what is said or done publicly- but in the spirit of meekness and the fear of the Lord. Speaking the truth in love.
Thank you! I do so enjoy your videos. They are always done graciously and with kindness. People watch most of these prophets because they need a "word" to cling to instead of the true word God gave us...
If God hadn’t spoken to you then you shouldn’t be prowling for faults. I see Jesus writing on the ground and people that do this drop there stones! Sir is is a humble and learning servant. And we do now have the Holy Ghost in new testament. Re: Troy you have taken out of context. He is learning and humble. He admits growth. He is young. We all have ministerial mistakes. Also he does say he can be wrong. But hehas many prophetic prior videos that have come to pass. When you look at Troy and I am praying praying woman he may not 100% buy he’s on his way. Come along side him.
Another believer going against another believer, what’s your end goal ? Are you building up the body of christ or tearing it down. Please repent and seek the the lord in SPIRIT AND TRUTH
UMM??? A war DID just start and I think he is SPOT ON! I am a follower of Troy and I was a sceptic at first BUT not anymore. Are you religious? I think you’re REPULSIVE and God does speak to others. He’s NOT claiming to be 100% right at all times.
Thanks for commenting. So you're suggesting that when God 'spoke' to Troy about this war, God was wrong about the month of the war, He was wrong about the cause of the war, and He was wrong about the countries involved in the war - yet He was spot on? Troy actually got more wrong than he got right. Deut. 18:22: "When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken"
A prophet that is not 100 percent right is NOT A PROPHET. Go ahead crayzee, keep giving him your hard earned money, you can't see how phony Troy Black is?????
You have clearly fallen for all of Troy's lies about the nature of prophecy under the new covenant. Interestingly, he often prophecies about what is trending online. The Holy Spirit is never late to the party. Stop following man.
The gift of Prophecy is real but very few know how it works. True prophecy doesn't lift up the one prophesying, it edifies the believer by reciting events already recorded in the Bible. My prophetic outreach began when Jesus appeared to me in the Spring of 2010, calling me to ministry. I don't predict future events, I explain how events already recorded in the bible are being fulfilled as we approach the Lord's coming. Google suppresses my content so I encourage you to trace this comment if you want to know more. God bless!
I think Mr Black was prophecing in part. He might be going wrong sometimes by giving his own interpretation . 2 Corinthians 12 says that 2 to 3 brothers are to judge the dream or revelation.
By pronouncing it wrong to judge Christians, you’ve just judged yourself as wrong. You can’t have it both ways. Either you are wrong to judge or we are both ok to judge. Remember, Jesus never said it was wrong to judge; only that we will be judged using the same measure that we use for others. I’m ok with that. Dane
I can’t stand Troy. I can’t shake the feeling that his channel is merely for attention. Just look at his videos’ thumbnails. Most of them have a “woe is me” selfie or a “Hey, look at me I’m smiling!” pose. He seems fake and it’s extremely annoying.
Yes, I really liked what you said there. The prophecies in the old convenant was God warning his people that their ways would bring destruction upon them. So, basically it is God giving a prophecy to prevent from it happening. And other prophecies, about the Messia and things concerning the Messiah So, what is point of God come here and tell: This war is coming up on this place (and it is 100% not related with you and your heart).?
I enjoyed listening to this video. I have an interest in predictive prophecy but I have taken the approach that while it is instructive to seek the Lord for predictive words based on John 16:13. I have found Troy to be a lot more bold to speak out the apparent visions that he receives as prophetic words. If they are vague it is difficult to tell if they have come to pass or not. If they are specific it is a lot easier to tell. I have the following issues with his predictive prophecies. They are not strongly tied to words from the Lord so they in many cases should be regarded rather as predictions than prophecies. What is the case is that either I ask God to show me something about what is going to happen or to bring something to my attention. I have had quite strong internal convictions or received impressions that have come to pass in response. For example about the outcomes of the recent Australian election and the recent Victorian election, what I believed I got about the outcome from the Lord that came to pass. I have made a number of predictions based on what I thought I heard from the Lord that came to pass. But I usually present them as "I think the Lord has said this" and then looked for how and if they are fulfilled as evidence of whether I heard from God or not. This is a kind of "self testing" mode where we test our ability to hear from God. However this is quite different from when I prophecy by the Holy Spirit. That involves a connection with the heart of God and is usually a revelation of some issue that God is showing me that he is concerned about or with. It can also be a word of encouragement or edification. Sometimes it does concern others such as prophecies I have made to Justin Peters that the Lord wasn't pleased with his challenge to the charismatic prophets which you can read in the comments to those videos. That is something different and I give that firmly and with conviction as being from the Lord. I also believe in holding to some caution in regards to those words including reflecting on where I am coming from and where my heart is and where the Lord's heart is in relation to an issue before giving it. These kinds of filters are very important in giving correct prophecies by the Holy Spirit. I think it is not nearly enough the concern of Pentecostal prophets to engage in this kind of reflection and refinement of their listening skills when hearing the heart of the Lord as given by the Holy Spirit. I'm also asking the Lord to teach me about discernment criteria which you will see with his working through my ministry on my channel. I see Troy making a number of missteps and agree with some of the ones you are pointing out. More troubling I think you also put your finger on some issues with regard to his channel and ministry. In that he serves the Lord I want to see him do well, however some of these things to use Troy's words "don't sit right". I would say he needs to be more cautious and I also think he is seeking the Lord for prophecies which he seems to get by way of visions, but that this is fraught and requires more caution than I see him practicing. I have raised it with him previously. I don't usually get information from the Holy Spirit in this manner, but more through impressions and "realisations" and promptings that I recognise as being something from the Lord. There is definitely the danger of "look at me, God is giving me all these visions about what is going to happen" Though I think for Troy there is also the "Look at This, God is showing me things, and you should follow him and I'll help you do that". I'd give him more credit for his heart place. I think his methodology and approach needs to improve, but that is also something I level at myself before the Lord. I think it is often forgotten you start out as a believer in Jesus, not a prophet or apostle or whatever you want to call yourself or your ministry or believe that the Lord has called you to. If you get it wrong, then you do need to recognise that and repent and more to the point choose a different path so you don't get into the same mess all over again. You also need to be careful that you serve Jesus responsibly. In terms of False prophets, I think the bigger issue is in the light of this unrepentant prophets who have chosen to do something the wrong way and have not been cautious and careful enough and have created a mess. I don't subscribe to no ministry ie you shouldn't prophecy because it isn't for today like Justin Peters, Corey Minor and other RU-vid Cessationists. I think there is a lot of learning that needs to take place with prophetic ministries in general as there are many examples out there of how it should not be done. I'd personally save the label of false prophet for those who have a wrong heart attitude and want to lead people astray or use purported spiritual gifts for their own selfish gain and who don't care about others and are not only not coming at ministry from the right heart attitude and place before the Lord but really are wolves who want to rend the flock. Great that you are raising these issues. I'd like to see Troy "position" himself differently and be less of a "lone gun" when it comes to the ministry he is engaging in and to take more caution in sanctioning others.
hello from Victoria. Do you remember the Gough Whitlam debacle? - 1980's. I saw a headline of a newspaper (the Sun as it was then) - WE DON"T NEED GOD! I was shocked. That day I had to get away and pray in a little storage room in the house. I was before the Lord for a good number of hours, weeping and crying out to the Lord. Within a few weeks (?) I heard that GW was sacked by the Governor General, and GW made another announcement - God may well save the Queen, but He won't save the Governor general (something like that) I was so glad that the Father moved me to pray as I did. Today, we still need to pray for this nation and its course of rebellion against the Living God. Only the mercy of God can save us.
Glad you exposed him.If at least a few or even one who followed him would have their eyes opened to truth from your video makes it all worth it. Thanks for sharing. Exactly what people need to hear.
@@elijah-kimmariewashington756 When we held what he said to reality we discovered what he said was false. This is the test that God recommended (Duet. 18:22). Dane
God's word is same yesterday, today and forever. It never changes. Only man changes his word. Let man be the liar. God's word is true and life for our soul.
You cited that the Word given was "not clear", as if that was not God's way. 2 questions for you... How many times would you say that the words, "interpretation/interpreter", appear in the Bible and why would you suppose THAT is??
Many well-known "prophets" were wrong about Trump. They never came forward to say they were wrong. They disappeared . Prophets know only in part per the word. Troy is very humble. Let the tares and wheat grow together and let God winnow. I say the same about you, God will determine if you are qualified to measure one of His servants.
Thankyou for this video. Its plain to see that it is pride that's motivating him. It's a " strange fire" the ot talks about, it's dangerous.o shared In comment on his video, a true vision I had from the Lord about Israel but it was given as a insight to pray, the Lord said after the the vision " pray now" I received this vision ten years ago and when I posted it on his comment section, he quickly deleted it.that told me alot.
I have been doubting Troy. I like how u broke things down. I have a hard time believing how often he is spoken 2. How can he b so sure who it is that’s speaking 2 him ? I will say I am a true believer in Christ and God. I have a testimony that I’ve only shared with one person in my life. And it happened May 5 2020. Around 3:30 pm. I keep it between Jesus and I. So far. If Jesus tells me 2 share it. I’ll tell the world. Thanx. I’m glad I caught ur vid.
@@Featheredprop can you please check out Camille Hedrick? She says she is a prophet claiming all sorts of things. Just watched one of her videos saying “Jesus is going to bless us if we invest in crypto” The title of her video is : Finances coming! I saw Jesus bringing redemption to the body
Deuteronomy 18:21-22 NLT “But you may wonder, ‘How will we know whether or not a prophecy is from the LORD?’ If the prophet speaks in the LORD’s name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the LORD did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared.
I thought of this bible verse as an example and also thought of Matthew 24:10-13 AMP 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. This tells us that an offended heart is the breading ground for deception!! Straight after offended hearts, the false prophets rise up to deceive, and it’s happening right now. It will only get worse!! Jeremiah 23:16 Amplified Bible Thus says the LORD of hosts, “Do not listen to the words of the [false] prophets who prophesy to you. They are teaching you worthless things and are leading you into futility; They speak a vision of their own mind and imagination And not [truth] from the mouth of the Lord. We are definitely living in the last hour!!! I can’t wait to see Jesus’ face 😀🕊️🙏💖
Whether you wanna believe it or not Troy is one of God’s servants. In these days and times he has many profits. It’s not always easy to interpret because God only shows them in part.
Thanks for commenting Lisa. One way to know for certain if a person is or is not a prophet is if they’ve gotten it wrong. If what was predicted did not come to pass, as in this case of Troy, then we can know for certain they weren’t speaking for God. Dane
I'm a Seer, been saved for over 26 years as well pentecostal and spirit filled. Troy Black is definitely not a prophet and it's not some gift he just discovered the past two years according to his video history lol. You don't start out doing videos about the bible then switch gears into prophecy but it does attract an audience. A false prophet is some one who isn't a prophet but say's things that never come to pass or not true, they should be stoned. A presumptuous prophet is a prophet who speaks a true word out of God's but out of God's timing or he speaks a word that doesn't come to pass, he shouldn't be fear or listen too. So a true prophet can get it wrong and not die unlike some would believe. There's nothing wrong about asking questions and testing a person's motives.
You have to distinguish what Troy saw or heard and what he interpreted. The thing with USA and the middle east was more an interpretation of Troy ("impression"). Maybe God sees more the Soviet Union than Ukraine and Russia. The decline of the Soviet Union was more of a long term process that resulted in 1991 than a sudden event in 1991, so 1990 is fine. 29Let the Prophets speake two or three, and let the other iudge. 30If any thing be reueiled to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31For yee may all prophesie one by one, that all may learne, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the Prophets are subiect to the Prophets. 33For God is not the authour of confusion, but of peace, as in all Churches of the Saints (1 Corinthians 14:29-33).
Oh, you come to accuse brothers ??? That already put you on the wrong track. What troy does is what ever he says ,he is bring his audiences under the true gospel (shows what the lord did on the cross for every one of us) he also dose exposing the darkness to avoid confusion and bring clarity in the body of christ by bring some matters in the light of the word that exactly relates with what the lord tells him to say. Man, don't accuse the Lord servant. Instead, intercede if you think he is doing wrong.
You wanna know how you know your doing something right? I'll tell you, it's when people begin attacking you for spreading Gods message. Troy has a lot of haters attacking him, you're only one of many videos attacking him for being Gods prophet! This is the truth, the world hated Christ first, and they'll hate anyone that follows Christ as well, because we don't belong to the world, we belong to Christ! Thisis how true believers will know the truth, Christ said this himself. Haters gonna hate!!! God bless.
It’s probably worse to judge a child of God. We prophesy in part we see in part, God gives one some information and to another some other information. Troy always speaks from the Lord, where is your info that your getting to speak your mind about this child of God. Troy obeys the Lord you may want to ask who are you obeying. I know he speaks the TRUTH all I hear here is your opinion. Jesus Loves You! He is the way the truth and the light and I pray that you will be able to open your eyes and ears to hear the truth.
Jesus said according to your word it will be done to you, and you have just declared your judgement by quoting Matt 12.36 “But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. TAKE HEED! you've tried to speak truth in love but TAKE HEED.
I do believe God gives some people prophetic words and even visions but it is a big red flag when they are saying God told them this or that on a daily basis. This is what makes me believe Troy Black is not legit. He may or may not be trying to intentionally fool people. He may actually be thinking too much about things and thinks what he is thinking is from God. I don't take what he says seriously or even listen to him.
Troy has no problem with not understanding some of the msgs he gets and try not to give the msg until he understands it as wee as he can. Now apparently you have never listen to Clem Clement and his prophecys. A very long time to come to pass but do come to pass when God is ready to move. I don't like the way you seem so smug about putting this young upcoming prophet. You should be questioning him instead of trying to turn people away. He admits he's a human being just as you are. He does say he had a feeling about this or that. He's still young and deffinately does love the Lord. B esides you are telling us all who listen to him are not as bright as you are in what you perceive about what he hears. You don't know what he hears you aren't him. Yes you have your right to think how you want to, but are you just jealous because he has people who don't worship him but give him his growing and learning rights to become a better prophet for God. He admits he makes mistakes. Half the time it's hard to understand what the Lord says unless you ask for decernment.
People spend so much time trying to expose someone else as false prophet instead of the Great Commission. Without the Love of God we are dead in the sight of God. Jesus did not condemn anyone so why are you? John 3:17
Thank you for your question. Each week I travel into the local county jail and conduct Bible studies among addicts and other inmates who need Jesus. Therefore, I believe that I am very dedicated to the Great Commission. This, however, does not mean that I cannot look at other matters that concern the Kingdom of God. I knew that when I posted this video that many people would be upset. I knew that they would prefer that everyone be allowed to say anything without being held to the light of scripture. Keep in mind, however, that Troy welcomed criticism. If you watch my first video about Troy Black I cited him asking us to hold him accountable. So, I just did what Troy Black wanted. Dane
You lost me when you said Dana Coverstone’s dream hasn’t come true after two years, therefore it’s false. God is not on your timing. Is there a statute of limitations on prophesies coming to pass? Or a timeframe you’ve deemed appropriate for God’s warnings? The only danger here is not hearing.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Amanda. You may recall that Dana's dreams had specific "time stamps." In other words he claimed that God was showing him what was going to happen during certain time periods. For example, he predicted some events for the second week October which clearly did not come to pass. Without these specific time frames mentioned then I would agree with you that these still may occur. However, because Dana claimed that God showed him events that were to come to pass during very specific time frames - and they didn't - we can know for certain that those dreams were not from God. Dane
@@amandareynolds8769 Good thoughts, Amanda. Did God tell Noah what year? No, He didn't. Did Dana claim God told him when the events of his dream would come to pass? Yes. I know that it's very unpopular these days to test the words of the prophet, but that's what scripture calls us to do. Dane
@@amandareynolds8769 I followed Dana Coverstone for a while because I thought his dream / vision was interesting, but I realized that everything he said was false, nothing came true. he claimed that God said: "Brace your self" that is not true, it is meme taken from Game of Thrones is an image macro series featuring the character Eddard "Ned" Stark from the HBO series. Dana also came up with titles like well-known American newspapers, he mentioned that he read 5 newspapers every day. I do not intend to go deeper into the subject but it is quite sad. God does not work that way, he does not give you a dream and a calendar, no prophet in OT gave time or years. God has humor: Genesis 21: 6 King James Version 6 And Sarah said, God hath made me to laugh, so that all that hear will laugh with me. But he would never lie, Be well and Blessed.
Your joking right your video is literally titled what god showed me about Troy black which is click bait judge not lest he be judged And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Hey Aaron, if you would have watched the video you would have noted that I immediately recognized that it was click bait. I also explained why I said what I said. Dane
Yesssss!!!! He is for Kathryn krick. She calls herself an apostle lol, that's false right there. All the apostles were men, and have all died. Red flags
Are you trying to be helpful or just looking for someone to tear down. Troy seems sincere and honest. Many things that he has said has checked out. Why it so hard to believe he can be real. God can use anyone.
Thanks. Yours is a fair question. If you watch my first video regarding Troy's prophecy you'll note that I took great care to make it clear that I was not attacking the man. I also believe that is sincere. The question is not whether or not God can use anyone. Rather, it is: are Troy's prophecies from the Lord? When we examine the details of this particular prophecy, we can determine that it did not originate from God since it did not come to pass. Dane
@@Featheredprop I understand but many times God uses symbols and things like that in visions. For example God led me to a religious school to teach children. How did I know, I just had this very strong feeling that where I lived was over. I started to look for jobs all in my area and found nothing. So over time I decided to branch out. It was like I knew God wanted me to go somewhere but I didn't know exactly. I told God in a prayer that I will send my resumes everywhere and when I do them it's up to him to show me where to go. So I got a call from a religious institution and eventually I received a dream to tell me why I was there and what I was supposed to do. Overtime the words were confirmed. Long story but I think you could be hearing from God but you may not know how to interpret it. I can tell the difference between my thoughts and if I am hearing from God because of mistakes that I made in the past, maturity and different things. All I am saying is that interpreting visions is not easy, it's not like there is a class on it. You could hear from God but not fully understand what he is trying to say until after the fact. Then you go...awww..I am understanding now. Then as you mature your discernment of what God is saying gets better. I think about when God told me to do something and I completely ignored it. Looking back I understand better due to maturity, but then at the time I didn't. I'm able to blindly just follow God now, but it took time do get this way. It's like my sister says why are you leaving this job and say God told me too..She looks at me like I am nuts but as time moves on and she starts to see things unfold she then understands that I am being guided. Sorry so wordy.
Thank you for sharing your personal story. One of the major differences between what you've shared and what Troy Black is sharing is that your story is about what you believe God wanted you to do. Troy's so-called prophecies are about events that he claims God is trying let others know about. It is one thing to claim that God wants you to take a particular job, it is another thing to tell people that a war is going to start. I know that many people do not like it when we test people's words. However, if you watch my first video about Troy Black, you will note that he invited people to do what I've done. Therefore, I've only done what Troy wants us to do. I've only done what the Bible tells us to do: test the spirits. Dane
I don't believe he is trying to tear down Troy, but rather expose a false prophet when he sees one. We NEED THIS so much in these last days we're living in. Jesus told us there would be false prophets in the end days that will deceive many if not careful.😪 Also, prophets are held on a higher accountability than one who is hearing from God themselves. If one is a prophet and God gives them a word and they're to release it, they had better be 💯💯💯% for certain they've heard from the Lord, heard it correctly, and gave the word accurately and exactly when the Lord says too. No ifs and or buts about it. And there is NO well maybe this maybe that, I'm not real sure or for certain that's what God meant, NO!!!🙅♀️ That's NOT how God works! That's not how prophecy works! You're either a prophet like God says u are, and you're hearing from the LORD CLEARLY what He's telling u in a prophecy or you're just simply NOT! THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN TO IT! Otherwise they're leading people astray. Steering them from the TRUTH! This is why Jesus told us to ALWAYS TEST THE SPIRITS!!! If it passes the test, then it's from the Lord, if not, then it's clearly not from the Lord. This will work every time. TEST THE SPIRITS ALWAYS! I use to listen to Troy myself until finding these videos and now my eye and ears are opened. I'm very thankful for this man of God telling us the truth even when it can be hard sometimes knowing the backlash and hate one may receive. But we must remember, the world FIRST hated Jesus, so it will hate us too. Furthermore, I don't know if Troy really knows he's being deceived or not, but I would like to see him acknowledge this man and sit down with him and talk like brother's and sister's should do instead of fighting, feuding, being prideful and thinking they're automatically right and everyone else is wrong. Those kind are DANGEROUS. Full of religious and prideful spirits. But if Troy would have a peaceful convo with this brother, I'd respect him for that. What would Jesus do??
Havent you notice is videos title always says god told me this, god showed me this would happen, like right there you know he is a fale phrophet cause nobody i dont care how holy you are gets that many signs from the lord
He clearly says in every prophesy that he isn’t perfect and he just like everyone can misinterpret what god tells him. You kind of wasted your time here making this video. It’s just passing judgement
God can see the beginning and the end. God knows what will happen tomorrow, his plan is perfect.. I am of the opinion that Jesus is coming soon. Troy Black gets some odd dreams, I notice he chuckles when he prays and sometimes breathes deep. God has written so many things in the Bible you don"t need to be a prophet, just read your Bible and ask God to help you understand it. I saw that Troy was say a great leader would fall, in his next program I saw a picture of Biden stumbling up the stairs. Troys statements are to wide based. I feel bad about people being lead astray,.
Troy black is doing just fine without you self proclaimed Kingdom police trying to pull him in line constantly. The only thing for sure is that you don't really know what you're talking about, but if you do then by all means, tell us the Lord gave you this information instead of just accusing people. Fair enough?
