What goes inside a Yamaha R3 Superbike engine [Superbike Build Series Ep.4] 

Thanks! We are loving the build so far and can't wait to drop this motor in. Stay tuned!

heheheh....like small and spunky? Or just funny?

TSTindustries I meant it only as a compliment. You could prb do an awesome imitation. Excellent video btw! Subbed.

Yep, I see it lol. Its the turns of phrase and speech patterns. Subtle, but its there.

Steve 23464 oh, were you talking about how John bleeds sound from one word to the next? I totally hear it now. I can't wait to see him to have some fun telling him what our audience has pinpointed about his manner of speaking.

TSTindustries yes exactly! And upon rewatching it he could prb do a mean impersonation of Michael J Fox too! Reading the comments other people see different actors also.

I believe we have two future episodes worth of material already shot. It's just a matter of editing it and releasing it. We will push for two episodes this coming week but can't promise more than one.

what is crysis...other than a game

Thats the joke, whether the bike can run the game... Xd

Well it can run over anything that runs crysis.

I don't know if we will have an end result for you. This project will keep developing even after the initial bike is built and raced. We will be showing the entire metamorphosis, even after the bike rev1 is done, we will go race it and figure out some more upgrades, then go execute them.

He used to teach at Wyotech

the guy don't even know a stator delivers ac/dc current and i wonder how the bike can run without it

John is definitely a cool cat. Bart met John about twenty years ago through skydiving. Their paths crossed again in road racing and the rest is history.

TSTindustries ahzam

Thanks for the love!

we sure hope so

Well.. You're not wrong, just take a minute to read comments in any video and you'll end disappointed with humanity haha

@Drco89ol Ouch. Did you ever find out what it was? If not, let me buy your bike lol

Drco89ol what problems did it have? Piston rings ?

It’s called having a big head

Thanks for the love!

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We are currently using Motul synthetic oil in our race bikes. That oil will get you very good protection for engine internals. There are other choices as well. Yamalube is another you can consider. Revving your bike, and riding it around the streets really doesn't stress your motor very much. Just take a look at our Supersport build from last year which can be seen in our "R3 Street or Track" video. This bike under two racers got on the podium many times last year. It saw about 15 track days, and around 20 races. It was ridden at 100% of what it can provide all that time. We changed the oil regularly and the bike kept going. At the end of the season we disassembled the motor to see what is going on inside and refresh it for this coming season. Only preventive maintenance was required. Nothing was really wrong with any of the parts even though we demanded a lot of performance out of this little beast. Yamaha builds a strong motor so as long as you maintain it properly, take it into the dealer for any recalls, you should be good for many years to come. All that said I recommend that you go to the track for spirited riding and leave the street to commuting. Cheer! Bart

TSTindustries Thank you so much for the explanation, very much appreciated. I am happy to hear that from the professionals! Keep up with the series❤

Any R&D we do trickles down to the street. The street scene is our biggest market, and it pays for the research we do. It wouldn't be prudent to just make shiny fun parts for one bike. We will figure out ways to bring most of this tech to street guys...as long as they are willing to spend the money.

We are but we changed the oil pressure.

The triple clamp is on the WORX portion of our site but we aren't selling it yet. The flywheel is a special made to order item that we need the core for. The rest of the engine mods are also special order items for now. You can shoot a message to our customer support department through our website and they will provide you with cost and lead times.

cool, thanks

The term superbike has nothing to do with size of bike. I am just going to copy and paste another reply I wrote a few days ago because I am tired of typing the same thing to these comments. Go look up the rules for any racing organization. The classes are typically divided into Supersport, Superbike, Moto. All the modifications performed to this bike preclude it from racing in Supersport classes, so the bike only qualifies for racing in SB and Moto classes. Therefore it is a Superbike. If you want to reference this please see CCS, ASRA, or WERA rules.

TSTindustries I was making a joke because of all the comments. It's called levety. My comment is funny because there are lots of comments about the bikes size. I call it my magic sauce of comedy...I really can't tell you more than that.

@@nearkolob "magic sauce of comedy" - nice

Sorry man... but maybe WeBike has something that you can get. Don't know exactly where you are. If maybe in Malaysia contact Tuneboss

@@TSTindustries I'm in indonesia btw.. in my country there are alot of taiwanese aftermarket parts but mostly cast aluminium, I'll check your suggestion.. and thank you for your reply..

Yes. We retain counter balancers in our builds

U just loose torque!!!

Siddiq Sobri episode 7 will launch this week. It's part 2 of the motor video. It will answer all your questions.

TSTindustries thanks.

The R3 motor configuration is crossplane.

like Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch Mark, or Shooter Mark?

Not unless you have your transmission falling out of gear often. Back cutting the transmission gear dogs prevents the selected gear from falling out under high load and RPM. This is an issue we experienced on these bikes last year.

Our setup has a total loss charging system, which means it has no charging components. We calculated the amp hours necessary to run the longest of the races we participate in, then multiplied by a factor of safety and that has been working for us as long as we keep a fresh battery in the bike. The engine starts are the worst. If we have a few race restarts it gets dicey. We haven't ever run out totally but have come in from a race at 11.4v. Our longest race is a half hour.

CR8E, sometimes CR9E

I can weigh a stock motor for you on Monday if you remind me

@@TSTindustries Will do, thanks!

@@TSTindustries If you get the chance and inclination, please weigh the stock motor and post the results. Thanks!

84.6 lb, mostly drained of oil but not washed out, no oil filter, no coolant, no accessories

You could do that, but then you also have to cast a taller cylinder block, or find minimally shorter rods and potentially have enough length on the bottom of the cyl block.

niteshadesc2 this is my favorite question in a while. It is so much more enjoyable to answer tech questions than respond to the typical banter, so firts of all, thank you. The primary goal behind removing the charging system was to remove rotating mass from the crank and remove the parasitic effects of inertia and charging drag. This causes the motor to rev to the power band faster so we can get usable power quicker than a typical bike. The centripetal acceleration on the center plane of the bike is also reduced causing direction changes of the entire bike to require less force. The actual weight reduction is the secondary goal. We removed around 7 pounds cumulative with charging parts. We use a large lithium battery that provides double the Ah than stock, yet is roughly 5lb lighter, so we lost 12 lb total there. We have tested this setup thoroughly and found that we have three engine starts and one hour of continuous operation before we drop to 12v. The bike does not start to act up until about 11.7v. our GT races are 25 minutes so we're all good.

The starter does not remain engaged after the motor is running so there is nothing gained by removing it except weight shed. We could potentially remove it for just weight reduction but it is not uncommon to crash during a race. In that case you want to start the bike asap and then continue the race if the bike is usable.

TSTindustries thanks for the explanation! I now understand your logic on the charging system removal.

It's possible to punch out the cylinder bores to +2mm. That will give you 339.4 cc. I don't think there is enough meat in the cylinder block to go any bigger.

Then why do bearing manufacturers strive for smoother and smoother bearing components? You have to consider the fact that the oil on main bearings has to constantly flow, and at flow velocities where turbulence is not a factor there is less flow resistance over a smooth surface.

with a welder and some tools anything is possible, but why?

More power? Different sound? Just wondering

MT03 -TR compression ratio is not equal to more power but more compression is equal to more torque per cycle. And torque and power can be converted to each other, like 6th gear has lot of power and 1st have a lot of torque.

Amaey Paradkar what is the requirement for more cycles, for example R3 is 15,000 (Rpm)cycles ( google translate )

MT03 -TR No such specific requirement. Stronger and lighter components spins faster. Your fuel and ignition system should cope at whatever RPM you want your engine to run. My Duke 390 is limited at 10,500 RPM and I pushed it to 12,000 RPM, it just reduces the life of engine.

Also a reason why Harley Davidson lasts longer with 10,000 RPM redline and Japanese sports bikes are done for in 3-4 years (when used, ofcourse) with their 14,000+ redline.

Amaey Paradkar stock r3 (max 13,500 rpm) I want to turn 15,000(rpm) cycles. how can I turn 15,000 cycles. pcv bazzaz Ecu.?

That question is too broad. All those manufacturers produce many engines that would need to be compared against each specific model. And even then there would be too much subjectivity on the topic unless you perform standardized tests with transparent results. I do not believe there is a data source to deduce an answer that will satisfy your question.

We bought the first 400 that was delivered to our area in early March. Next year's SuperBike series will be focusing on us building that bike.

Unfortunately the execs at Honda did not grant us the 250RR in our market. Importing that bike would be expensive and paperwork hell. To top that, we would not have a big market here in the USA for parts of a foreign bike. We are just keeping our fingers crossed that Honda comes to their senses and brings that bike here in the coming years.

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The pistons are Spears Racing spec, and are made to Gregg Spears' specification by a leading forged piston manufacturer. The rods are made by Carillo. The transmission undercut is done through Spears as well. Everything else is our black magic done by machine shops we work with to our specifications. Unfortunately this information will remain secret for the purpose of protecting our time investment and funneling this type of business through us. If you have the money we can make it happen, but you have to be comfortable with saying goodbye to a few thousand dollars.

TSTindustries ohh.. I think I would!! I have my entire engine disassembled. In a couple months I’m going to go ahead and send it to you. I will even pay you guys to put it back together therefore you don’t have to worry about me taking it apart and measuring the rods and pistons LOL. Therefore I can tell the public the specs LOL 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Because I do want to be the first person to have a race spect Yamaha FZ 600 engine. Yes I know! It’s practically the R6! just well.. the doctors went through her and they dedowngraded a couple parts, haha. But no, seriously. I would love to eventually race you guys on my fz6 against your r3.And or you guys have the same rider who is skinny and one whims on the heavy side to ride both of the bikes in the city and on the highway and put them through their paces. And then he or she tell us which one they prefer LOL. Anyways thank you so much for a listing down the companies. I had the company’s name that made the rods. Because it says it on them. But I didn’t catch the name where you sent out the transmission to. You know what! Just do everything that you did to this R3 to my bike! 😂😂😂😂 because in all seriousness. I want to be the one to have the worlds first extremely ligtest FZ6 and fastest OEM engine built. But I’ve watched all of your videos. And I have a couple concerns. Like for one apparently you can’t do too much dark magic to an engine because then it won’t be legal for racing. But I really don’t care if it’s legal or not for racing. again I want to have the worlds lightest and fastest Yamaha FZ6. With the stock engine. I’m a Diesel mechanic. I know what needs to be done. I just don’t know of a shop or shops that can do what I want to have done. Because it’s a small engine. All of my local machine shop shops say that they don’t have the right equipment for that small engine! Well guess what! You all have lost my business, LOL. But, now I do. And I Owe you a lot! I’ve been looking and looking and looking!

Hahahahaha...Joe Dirt.

We provide our build services to racers. Are you saying we should have crate engines on the shelf ready to go when someone want one? You have to understand that selling a complete motor with all the services already done to it will likely cost about the same as the bike itself. It's much more cost effective to drop off a motor here for us to build it up to the customer's wishes.

TSTindustries I'm not retarded, you clearly won't have a bunch of built motors sitting on a shelf. I would love to have you build my motor but I am very far away from you and I race in a shitty local amateur class so my regular old R3 motor will have to due.

Hali Moto we actually are kicking around the idea of stocking supersport crate motors as those will be the most popular, if we actually pull the trigger. Where are you racing?

TSTindustries Nova Scotia, Canada, Its just at my local track. I would love to experience what one of these motors could do but I'm still picking away at some basic stuff on my bike. I'll start putting my pennies in a jar though maybe one day I'll have the cash for a badass built motor.

That's funny because that crank is providing what we were looking for. It spun us to one competition track record already.

TSTindustries I was joining... because he barely touched the side of it

At 8:18...

In the next motor video. We have specially made long duration, high lift cams going into this motor.

TSTindustries be a hell of a ramp on it. Maybe some nice low LSA as well, get some lump on this rig!

Michael J. Spade

This bike is a pure race bike used in a track setting only and competing in the CCS Southeast Region in the Superbike Class. Under the class specification, this bike is a Superbike. Reference our other videos for more information or look up CCS/ASRA/WERA racing rules. You can also reference the video at the link below! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OJCnzhNU_ZQ.html

Go look up the rules for any racing organization. The classes are typically divided into Supersport, Superbike, Moto. All the modifications performed to this bike preclude it from racing in Supersport classes, so the bike only qualifies for racing in SB and Moto classes. Therefore it is a Superbike. If you want to reference this please see CCS, ASRA, or WERA rules.

"SuPErbIkE"

I don't think John has made many videos at all so it is not his wheelhouse. He did the best he could and we gave him a spot on the show so that it is not the same host every time. Your point is noted. -BR

Go look up the rules for any racing organization. The classes are typically divided into Supersport, Superbike, Moto. All the modifications performed to this bike preclude it from racing in Supersport classes, so the bike only qualifies for racing in SB and Moto classes. Therefore it is a Superbike. If you want to reference this please see CCS or WERA rules.

You are incorrect in thinking no one races these. The 300-500 CC racing classes are on the rise. Motoamerica has a 300 class for Ninja 300, R3, and RC390 bikes. There are European circuits of same caliber for these small displacement bikes. Everytime we show up to a racing event the small bike grids look bigger. So the small bike sport is in expansion. We also race bigger bikes. We have a factory R1 and R6 that race in FMRRA and CCS series. We build all kinds of bikes. We just wanted to do an extravagant project out of a bike that most people wouldn't take that far. This series is a documentary of what we are doing..

There is also a race series for the R3 in Australia.

Bigger bike, bigger racing classes, same problem. And besides, we already build bigger race bikes. Our stable has an R1, R6, several CBR600RRs and a couple R3s. We wanted to do something nobody else is doing, and here it is.

stickloaf Different racing classes. Are you mental?

Man, you guys really need to read some facts before you start typing. Go see the rules of any AMA sanctioned racing organization like CCS and WERA. Superbike is a class within all displacements.

Yea, I saw a few people commenting about the 'super bike' term used. I guess they are confused due to the usual definition used in racing of between 800-1000cc motorbikes. Or the "street slang" of basically a 'high end' motorcycle, much like a 'Super car'.

What about the STK class in national racing series. That is a 1000cc class, yet there is another class called SB. There are no set definitions for these things, but if you do some research into present day Superbike classes then you will see many displacements included in that category. I just read these comments, written so poorly both in regards to grammar and spelling, by authors that are self-proclaimed authorities on the subject, and I find it very funny. At that point I just can't help myself but to fire back with some snarky, fact-filled comment, that maybe will make these guys rethink what they wrote.

@@TSTindustries Ok, here goes. A Superbike is an official designation by racing organisations for any motorcycle above 600cc's. The term has since been used by manufacturers to sell motorcycles to the general public. Supersports (600cc); and Superbikes(1000cc), are generally race-replica motorcycles designed for Street use. Many can be modified slightly for racing use (Track days and such). A sportbike is the generic term for ANY motorcycle with race-inspired fairings, suspension, brakes, etc. The old term “Race on Sunday, sell on Monday “ has never been promoted as well as by motorcycle manufacturers. I hope this clears up the confusion a bit.

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