What Happened to Cal Kestis After Star Wars Jedi Survivor? 

I just want a DLC that adds some exploration to tanalorr. I haven’t gone back there because there is literally nothing to do there.

Merrin will definitely play a BIG role in protecting Kata from the darkside as well. In fact, Merrin already has the jump on it before Cal even does at the end of the game, Cal is preparing the bodies while Merrin is telling Kata she has to confront it but not let it consume her. Merrin, like Cal has lost everything and she was in a very dark place mentally and emotionally until she met Cal (again, part of her talk with Kata), it's because of Merrin's own experience with hatred and a lust for revenge and overcoming that darkness that she can talk to Kata about it and help guide her in the right direction. Random side note, that "Ghost Star" song is hauntingly BEAUTIFUL. It's cute and innocent yet so sad and lonely. If Kata grows up to be a badass warrior for the light, maybe she'll get a nickname like Merrin's "Desert Ghost" and be called the "Ghost Star". Just a silly thing I thought of, I know it won't happen.

This is a solid theory. I just want to point out that Cal actually looked down on Cere’s lightsaber, not Bode’s.

So the first game was all about growing up and facing your fears, while the second one was about becoming more mature and letting go of anger. I'm guessing the third one will be all about fatherhood and mentorship, and probably dealing with guilt. I can see a lot of drama and conflict around his task to "guide her through the darkness" and the fact that he killed her actual father in front of her eyes. Most likely Cal is going to sacrifice himself to protect Merrin and/or Kata, just like every single one of his parental figures did for him.

Same thing happened to Luke when he took down the 1st Death Star(“use the force luke”) that was cals moment when he switched to hyperspace to get through the nebula when cir says (“now”) and they make it through the nebula

I’d love to see Cal take up the mentor role either for Kata as his apprentice or his potential children with Merrin

I think Cere was speaking through the force reason how Cal couldn’t see her and only heard her voice when he turned around. Not like a force ghost but still using it as a conduit for communication

curious if Cal will be struggling with the Dark Side and using more Dark Force abilities in the 3rd game.

I still hope Cal will be the main Character Camerons character deserves a trilogie

I can see Cere being part of the living force in the same way Kanan became a wolf when he died.

That was Cere' saber, not Bode's

also he is the only jedi whose lightsaber can change from crossguard,dual bladed,double bladed and he can use a blaster now that he is a jedi knight im sure he will be a jedi master

appreciate the jedi survivor content and theories for the next game. thanks!

I'd like to point out that Cal at the end did not look at Bodes lightsaber but Ceres. After the fight against Bode we can clearly see that he used Dagan Geras lightsaber, which is also shown through an echo in the observatory. As for the "Guide her through the darkness" we could also theorize that it is related to Trilla. We did not actually get a death confirmation, we just saw her getting her back slashed. We just assume that she is dead, but considering Ceres last words "Trilla" and Ceres interaction with Cal at the end she might be still alive. Just imprisoned, getting reprogrammed and will join the fight again in the third game and Cal has to guide her to the light side again. This would also fit the team as everyone is or was in contact with the darkside: Cere in the past used the darkside, Merrin is a nightsister which utilize the darkside in their magic, Kata is the daughter of Bode and for Cal his signature ability is considered to be on the darkside while he also now is able to embrace the darkside. But all of them are good people and fight for the lightside, so rescueing Trilla and making her join our fight would fit this new jedi order Cal is building. Jedis who are not afraid of the darkside and use it features to help others.

Things I wish to see in the next game: -reorganise how the push and pull ability works because it takes to much place, I believe it does not allow us to learn even more force skills -Cal learning force lightning not the sith version, but the one Plo koon used as well -Cal learning to see into the future just like Sifo-dyas / have visions about Vader and Luke like Starkiller had -Cal fighting with Vader minimum once but not like in the fallen order where you have to run for your dear life -Cal learning the fighting style Starkiller used (hold the lightsaber behind you) -I wish that Cal meets Obi-wan or Ahsoka or even Ahsoka somewhere along the way -I know the developers put zero interest about Cal's past before he became a padawan or the member of the order but I would love to see he finding the place where he was born or even his parents if they are still alive

Cere is a force presumably a force ghost. Some Force users have the ability to come back as ghosts after death

Cere is a force ghost.. it’s been done by Anakin, obi-wan, Jin, yoda, and Luke.. as well as many others!

Cere became one with the cosmic force. Cal's unique connection to the force allows him to hear her advise like with the jump to hyperspace. In a place as strong with the force as Tanalorr, her spirit could manifest and speak to Cal.

I think the next installment is going to start out one of 2 ways: 1. Cal & Merrin raising Kata, with their own flesh & blood baby otw, living peacefully(as Cal was before the incident on Bracca), then another tragedy or unexpected event occurs compelling Cal to take up his lightsaber once more to protect that which matters most to him and the ones he loves. 2. Cal & Merrin(pregnant also) raising Kata as a warrior, teaching her the ways of the Jedi AND the teachings of the Nightsisters, while already being thrown into some other conflict (as we were in Survivor).

I wont be so satisfied if in the next game they put immense emphasis on Kata because it is a new character...Most of us want to see the development of the old characters Cal, Merrin and Greez. What I would love to see is Cals struggle with the Dark Side and the option to fully embrace it. Multiple endings depending on your choices would be also an interesting idea...

From a storyline point of view. This is another Starwars universe free of the current time line. They could tell any story they wanted now.

Honestly, I just want to see OP Cal

My bet is kata will be trained, and 3rd game we either play as her at start or jedi master cal till a certain arc then switch to kata. As for time period if kata is an adult in 3rd game it'll likely be after ep 6. Would be dealing with Empire remnants like in mandalorian or First Order, would be awesome to see cal come back and see the empire lost and meet Ashoka and Luke

Cal would probably die by Vader in the end, its a stretch but I think he will in the final battle, he'd put up a fight he would die heroically to save Merrin and the child with a great fight

I have a feeling the third game will feature an older Kata getting trained by Cal. I am envisioning gameplay similar to GOW:R with Kratos and Atreus, each with their own sections and different gameplay styles. I think this because of that section *Spoiler** when you play as Cere and the moveset is different. I think that would work well and keep things interesting, as well as capitalize on the companion mechanics they had in Survivor.

Dark siders can’t communicate after death. Bode is gone. Only those most enlightened can speak from beyond the grave

There is a character that knows exactly what cal is going through, cal fears about losing his way but he's also afraid of losing the ones he cares about, there is a character with the same abilities that lost his way, lost the one he loved and is also helping the hidden path as of this timeline, I believe cal should meet up with Quinlan Vos in the next game

Cere could easily come up as a 'force ghost' in the next installment.

I like how no one is talking about Cal’s footwork during combat. Especially in Fallen Order. Side Step Dodge, Teep Kick Counter Punisher.

I would honestly like to see Cal growing ever stronger and at the end of the 3rd game sacrificing himself more like Arthur from rdr2

Dude it's called a force ghost

In Star Wars there is the living force and the cosmic force. When a being dies, it’s living force passes into the cosmic force. This was probably the last of her living force giving him a final message before merging with the cosmic force.

I think there will probably be a dlc involving the star destroyer based on the dialogue after the story ended around the bar. Also Cal talked to Marren about taking the destroyer down.

My theory: I think the game will start with a significant time jump (much closer to ANH) with Kata officially being Cal's padawan and essentially his and Merrin's child. Then something happens (Empire attacks, possibly Merrin/Greez's death or something of the sort) that causes Cal to "embrace the darkness" once again. Kata will become a main player to saving Cal and convincing him to not turn out like Bode. Considering the game devs messing with the idea of playing two characters during the story of Jedi Survivor (Cere and Cal) then we could potentially get a story based co-op system with you either playing Cal or Kata depending on whats happening (sorta like Peter and Miles in Insomniac's Spider-Man 2)

Cere's last word was Trilla, which makes me think that she's still alive, with her being guided from the darkness. Kata, is still too light and pure to be in the darkness. Also, Kata was not really discussed around her, so in many ways she's a nonentity to her. Secondly, I think like this game, they'll start against the Empire, but find the same enemies that Dagan fought in Tanalor. They never gave the name of whatever they're fighting other than saying that the Jedi gave up on it. I'm hoping, that this leads the way to a third way, not light or dark but something that uses both, while being isolated from the main continuity. Otherwise, all these characters are just dead and their hidden location overrun by the Empire prior to the original trilogy.

It’s called a force ghost. After dying, a light side force user can learn how to return as a force ghost and communicate with people

Third game you play as Kata who's been taught the force by Cal, Night Sister Magik from Marrin and how to fly a ship from Greeze.

I think that the trilogy finale would end with cal facing off Darth vader and either dying or injuring vader so he can escape story wise I’m unsure but something to do with his dark side experiences. the next game should have starfighter combat in some missions weekly bounties from boba fett with death troopers making an appearance kind of fading away from the purge trooper phase and into the more modern empire we see in andor or the original trilogy in the next game and more appearances would always be cool to see. Just my thoughts

with Bode's intentions, I don't think he would truly want Kata to follow in his footsteps to the dark side--he just wanted her to be safe and he went down because he wanted it to be on his terms, probably the dark side influence, but Cal and the crew are the safest people for her to grow with. not denying that he will communicate with her in some way, at most to seek vengeance? but again, I think he'd just be a watchful eye over her through the Force

Cal Kestis has the innate ability of Force Psychometry. It wouldn't surprise me if, as Cal got stronger, instead of only feeling Force echoes from the past, he could start to feel Force echoes from across the veil. I think this is why Cal can see Cere after death - it's not something any Jedi can do (aka: it's not something Kata can do). If you watch carefully, Cal never directly talks back to "Cere" when she communicates with him after her death. I feel like Respawn was using Cere as a stand-in for a general manifestation of the Force that Cal can potently feel. It was the Force (not necessarily Cere) telling Cal when to jump to hyperspace. It was the Force telling Cal to to "Guide her through the Darkness." But how can a game "show" their players a feeling, and ensure their players immediately trust it? Well, just make an incredibly important character say it! I don't think Kata will see visions of her father. In fact, I don't even know if they will make her a Jedi. Bode was a Jedi, so we're *assuming* that Kata is Force-sensitive, too. However, not once in the game are we told that Kata actually has any Force powers. It's possible Bode was suppressing them so Kata wouldn't be taken by the Empire, but if Cal trains her to be a Jedi, then we would have two Jedis running around in the next game. We are very rapidly approaching Episode 4 in the Fallen Order/Survivor timeline. Survivor takes place in the same year as the Obi Wan TV show, which means Luke and Leia are 10 years old (they were 19 during the events of A New Hope). The games have so far only jumped ahead every 5 years (Cal was 13 when Order 66 happened, 5 years later at the start of Fallen Order he was 18, and then 5 years later at the start of Survivor he was 23). If we continue the 5-year trend, then the next game will take place 4 years before the events of the first Star Wars movie, and Kata would only be about 12 or 13 years old. How much "Darkness" can you realistically make a 12 year old do before it starts to feel like a bad horror movie? How much combat can you let a 12 year old participate in before Cal and Merrin look like terrible parents? Telling new stories in this time period is tricky, because the major events in the canon have already happened, and these new characters *weren't* there. What were they doing, if not helping to bring down the Empire? How can the studio make a gripping story where the characters ultimately don't participate in any of the major battles or events? Maybe Cal and crew do "side missions," like how Rogue One made a huge story out of one line in a New Hope? Or, they could make the drama "smaller" by only focusing on events that directly affect Cal, Merrin, and Kata, instead of trying to force them into already established canon events. Maybe the Empire kidnaps Kata, so instead of Cal participating in some big, canonical battle, he instead fights through an original stormtrooper unit that took his little girl or something? Basically, we're down to this narrative choice: will Respawn only write Cal into original stories, or will they attempt to tie him into the stories we saw in the movies? You also have to think about it from a gameplay point of view: Respawn is constantly expanding the Jedi series. You only played as Cal in Fallen Order, but in Survivor you can now get your companions to help you, and you even played as Cere. How would Kata elevate the gameplay in the next game? Would you play as Kata? Would it be like "The Last of Us" and Cal and Kata are played like Joel and Ellie? Would having a little companion make puzzle-solving and platforming feel renewed, or would watching over an NPC while you're trying to execute complex moves become a burden? Regardless, this is one of my favorite video game series. I hope to God they don't do a Mass Effect 3 and spoil an amazing series with a terrible ending!!

I hope in the next game they’ll make the story where you choose your own path either Jedi or dark side and when you choose dark side your attitude changes, skin becomes pale, eyes change color kinda like the infamous games I think it’ll be dope seeing Darkside Cal especially after playing Jedi Survivor I wanna more of his darkside

They def need to make dlc for this game. Hoping for a Witcher 3 type expansion where it really fleshes things out and adds more stuff. Also they are missing out on us isn’t the actual Jedi blade stance. And a lot of cool outfits and abilities from the lore

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I think the third game is going to bring something to the force that we haven't seen before. Cal is definitely a grey jedi, and perhaps that will lead to him utilizing the darkside and discovering things about the force that have been lost to time or strictly forbidden.

The path of going from knight to master And that personal battle with the dark side.

A DLC would be awesome cause theres still some questions, what actually happened during the 5 years between fallen order and survivor, how did greeze lose one of his arms, how did cal met his team and when did he start working for saw guererra

I feel like with the introduction of Kata, we're going to get a complete flip in the story as we switch between Cal and Kata, viewing the story's climax from the perspective of master and apprentice. (whom probably won't see eye to eye) We'll probably get a time jump of about 7 years where Kata is starting to become a young woman and has been training under Cal for this time. I feel like its gonna give us divisive character interactions between Cal and his new apprentice. Due to Cals subsequent brush with the dark side, I think he's gonna turn fully in the next game (Maybe Merrin gets killed or something, and its gonna be up to Kata to save him (which is probably gonna be the apex of the 3rd games story) ending in tragedy for either Cal or Kata, depending on players choices through the game, Kinda like a God of War meets Mass Effect kinda deal. I'd like that alot. Also I'm confused as to why The Last Spartan by Martin O'donnel is playing in the background xD thats a Halo track bro

I hope that one day, they provide players the change to duel against themselves online. Like Soul Calibur but Star Wars style. It would be extremely heartbraking if Merrin also dies in the next game, and she is killed by Kata.

In Star Wars when people die their energy transfers from the living force into the cosmic force, and in the process they lose their identity and consciousness. But their knowledge and faith probably lives on in the Cosmic force What we're seeing of Cere might possibly be a result of her energy in the middle of the transfer between the living force and the cosmic force. EDIT: SOURCE: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bDx3wBdD8rc.htmlsi=U3vGTuFPRMFRhx3i

The reason that Cere could appear is more to do with the force being alive. We see something similar in Star Wars rebels albeit in a different form. Additionally, the force can reward light side users (haven’t seen any darksiders be rewarded yet) when it believes you deserve it. Also from Rebels, it restored Kanan’s sight one last time before he died due to his sacrifice. So, I believe it is more that the force is rewarding Cere here for what she was trying to do

Chances are if Kal embracing the dark side is cannon we should play as Kata, trained by Kal, searching for other force users. How deep would a open world Jedi recruiter game be, if you don't find the force users before the inquisitors than they join the dark side for the end fight or straight up die, using Kal to train them correctly and keep the team on the right track.

Kata might be the next Jedi we play as…she might be force sensitive n Merin n cal might teach her, then we might play as her while she a padawan fighting the empire like cal

He trains her as a Jedi, but she falls to the darkness, but Cal brings her back and they go on to aid the rebellion and the New Republic/New Jedi Order. Cal will be a Jedi Master and on the Council.

Part 3, Cal is gonna teach Bodes kid to become a Jedi. And he's prob gonna reach out to Obi Wan

Dlc what makes the most sense a Merrin Dlc that sets up a game led by Merrin ... or the 3rd game is a Darker tone set game focused on Merrin

I hope that Cal gets to live past the Original Trilogy and him and Merrin start a family on Tanalorr.

So glad I tried this game. I love the fact u can slice everything up into pieces. I love Sekiro so this was perfect . Had only one crash during my time with it on ps5. Guess it’s the Pc version that has more issues.

It would be cool to explore a sith tomb and learn about dark force abilities as a grey jedi.

Yo do we all pick the jacket with the cape 😂😂❤

Every comments theory seems to miss one google answer that cal meets Luke and starts the new order

Cere is a Force Ghost. Her connection to Kyle is strong so she can communicate with him. Obi-Wan had the same connection with Luke, but once Luke trained his mind...he could actually see him. Kyle can't see Cere yet but the game devs showed her to us (The Players).

im thinking cere being there at the end was a force echo, like we've been sensing through both games. i dont think kata will be able to since it was said by cere in the first that its a rare ability. but who knows

Jedi can become force ghosts when they die. You see Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda, Qui-Gon jinn, Anakin Skywalker, and now Cere all able to speak to their allies after their deaths. Which always made me wonder why anyone would fall to the dark side of the force. The light side gives you a type of immortality that no Sith had ever possessed. It also makes it nearly impossible to totally wipeout the Jedi because a force ghosts can share their knowledge with other force sensitives.

im hoping there is a dark side force on Tanalor which is why the Jedi abandoned it. It had already taken hold of Dagan, and maybe its doing the same to Cal now, speaking to him using Cere's likeness would be dope . Kata vs Cal incoming? 🙏 - Bring back an Ancient Zeffo Dark Side sorceror pulling the strings on Tanalor

It wasn't Bode's lightsaber it showed in the ashes. It was Cere's lightsaber. Bode's looks different.

What comes next for Cal? Who knows, it’s Disney. He’s either gonna show up in a show or movie but DEFINITELY another game. But in the 3rd game, he needs to have a stance for hand to hand OR have a mechanic to put his lightsabers away to be non lethal like how Vader fought the inquisitor in Obi Wan and how ALL the Jedi fought in Acolyte. THAT would be DOPE having martial arts for the next game not REALLY as a stance but jus as a mercy mechanism to put away your weapons and stop enemy attacks and attack with martial arts and the force like Ezra learned and how all the Jedi knew in Acolyte

I JUST finished the story few hours ago and I feel that Cal is going to turn to the dark side. I also think the little girl is going to be a Jedi as there were clues near the end of the game.

Please I need another game after survivor❤. Please dont stop. I just keep wanting to know what is the next step. The story is engaging and just want to keep going....

Well with Stig Asmussen who directed both game and a lot of dev's who also worked on both game have left Respawn time will tell

Well, EA’s contract with Lucas film is supposedly over. If there’s a 3rd game, it would be with a different studio.

I’m also not a Star Wars fanatic. But there is a chance that Cal is instead getting a signal from the force but he hears Cere because of how she became such an important part of Cal’s life. (Please do correct me if I’m wrong about this)

I think we should get a movie with Cameron Monaghan live action about tanalore instead of another game

Imagine we find our merrin is a jedi and she was working with that one guy we killed on dothamir

raising that girl as she can definitely use the force

The next game should definitely show Cal struggling with the dark side. I’d love to see him with an enemy who pushes his darker tendencies and merrin is forced to try and save Cal

Disappointed that we couldn't fully explore Tanalorr! Hopefully it's the first planet we get to do so in Jedi 3.

I think we are going in the “star wars academy world “ type of game . Cause i get the fact that the bow daughter could possibly play a big role the next game, but remember he’s starting a jedi “temple” on a planet outside the empire rule that out side the data base , soo i think he’ll have more then one student next game .i think you’ll be able Make your own “jedi”. “Hints” co-op and doing jedi missions with your friends cause the temple is gonna be the main hud so , attending a jedi temple “playing as a student “

They left so many things open I really believe they could do something amazing with the third game.

I hope that in the next game, they include Kanan Jarrus and Ezra Bridger. That would be fun. Linking up the story with Galen Marek(Starkiller) and Jedi master Rahm Kota can also be a good addition to provide closure to Starkiller series.

Bro is never heard of a force ghost

She knows that These very people killed her mother didn't you watch the game the third part mußt be a happy ending.

I think the next game will take place at least 10 years from Jedi: Survivor. Kata is near the same age as Luke Skywalker and a force user. It would complete Carl’s character arc for him to become a master much like the two masters he lost. Kata’s story could be her struggling with the light and dark much like her father did right in front of her. She would be the playable character or at least switching between her and Cal. That’s what I’d do and I think it’s what Respawn wants because they’ve admitted that the original protagonist of the Jedi games was gonna be a woman.

I think they made is really obvious when cere came to him and told her to lead kata to the light, I took it as he will be katas Jedi master

It seems she knows her dad lost his way. She addresses this that later.

I'm 100% sure that Cal will train Kata

Should watch Clone Wars and Rebels to get more idea of the Lore, now that both Cere and zbode are dead they are part of the Cosmic Force and depending on the Jedi they can still influence the material world

This might piss people of but if there is a perfect time to bring back mace windu as an antagonist it would be the 3rd Jedi game for cal in my opinion. I don’t want to see him in the future movies. I personally would love mace windu to be alive & make his own rebellion that symbolises brutal justice Kinda like Batman justice if that makes sense

My theory is that kata will fall to the dark side and will kill cal in the end of the next game but kata will come to light and will continue the path of a jedi. So basically developpers will have like a 2 story set for the games in the future beacause if kata kills cal in the next upcoming game then then game coming later, kata will become the playable character (main character). Other way round, the next story could also be set like a father and family importance in cal's life, like protecting kata from the dark side and the imperials and alos teaching kata to becoming a jedi. Also the story might focus on protecting merrin also. But the main villain, darth vader's fight and end to the imperials might come much more later in the future games.

I just want a Force Unleashed complete remake

My thoughts are that kata will be the protagonist of the next game

I think the third game will start with Cal leading a new Jedi order on Tanalorr that isn’t as dogmatic as the order during the republic era before having to leave to fight the empire.

Bode was darkside so im pretty sure that means no force ghost

Isn't this taking place about nine years before "A New Hope?" Reeeeallly hoping they don't "off him" for the sake of modern politics 🙄

Easy answer for cere to be present in jedi 3 , force ghost it is cannon and I hope they use it carefully.

Maybe cere somehow became a force ghost and shes asctually communicating with cal

Well what we do know is that this franchise was intended to be a trilogy so we know about a third game

Just like Qui gon Jin cere was able to come back as an force ghost and will guide Cal as he trains Kata just as Jaro Tapal trained him

"Star wars jedi :outcasts"? Next game ? Pog?

I hope there’s DLC because there is zones on the star map that you can highlight and planets that are black out

Would be cool if in the 3rd game, we can play as Kata, the padawan of the Jedi Master Cal Kestis. Then the story finishes to where the empire fell and they meet up with a new risen Jedi Master, Luke Skywalker.