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What I Learned From My Failed Everesting Attempt - A Talk With Coach Frank Overton 

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@hgiusdfajgfds
@hgiusdfajgfds 3 года назад
Maybe you can do the extra lap in the beginning when you're still fresh, instead of saving it to the end?
@MaxRothFitness
@MaxRothFitness 3 года назад
That doesn’t even make sense lmao
@hgiusdfajgfds
@hgiusdfajgfds 3 года назад
@@MaxRothFitness you need big maths for this, it's not for everyone
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 года назад
Best comment
@ai314159
@ai314159 3 года назад
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@andyolsen4517
@andyolsen4517 3 года назад
@@MaxRothFitness obviously a joke
@nigelstanley3674
@nigelstanley3674 3 года назад
Looking forward to the next attempt.
@gwmtnbiker
@gwmtnbiker 3 года назад
Thank you for letting us “peek inside” your coach conversation and give us opportunity to learn! Your channel adds value to my life!
@jasonstrandberg6922
@jasonstrandberg6922 3 года назад
+1 on the FasCat plans. Completing Sweet Spot now and feeling good. They have some great variations to keep the longer weekend rides interesting if groups aren’t allowed, because of COVID. #FtFP Good luck Phil.
@wmlarch
@wmlarch 3 года назад
Phil, so nerdy...if the weather was so hot, you should have started at 4am.
@cliffclermont
@cliffclermont 3 года назад
Please only do it on a real cool temp day. Core temp and human performance is a highly under rated item. All the best.
@tonypapay
@tonypapay 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing the conversation with your coach.
@vivekh7662
@vivekh7662 3 года назад
Cool temperatures and no rain this weekend in LA!!
@KetzalSterling
@KetzalSterling 3 года назад
Phil, just a note. I think you're vastly under valuing the temperature in the equation. Your internal temperature is a serious governor in this endeavor. I was surprised you thought 16C was cool. I would think the optimum temp for this effort would be near 10C. Quite cold. You're simply not getting enough evaporative cooling at such slow climbing speeds. I'd recommend either doing it at night, or starting at something like 4am. Just some thoughts. Great vids, best of luck.
@julmeissonnier
@julmeissonnier 3 года назад
I agree. It is well known that the ideal marathon running temperature are something like 11 to 14 Celcius because you are producing a lot of heat. The speeds running flat terrain and riding uphill for top athletes are fairly similar (around 20Km/h). The only issue with Everesting would be not to get cold because of the high speed in the downhill, but if you go up 6 minutes and down one minute, it is like doing intervals and it is not enough time to get cold just enough to cool the engine and actually would quite helpful in managing body temperature...
@patrickharrison871
@patrickharrison871 3 года назад
Agreed-its not even debatable, doing this above 60-65f is absolutely dumb. Honestly you would think one person in his circle would have researched this.
@DJcoachbombay
@DJcoachbombay 3 года назад
Agreed. I was thinking of start time at 4am for Phil or something similar.
@notreally2406
@notreally2406 3 года назад
55 mph descending in the dark is not ideal, especially with nocturnal animals and additional lighting requirement weight
@tomasberka2124
@tomasberka2124 3 года назад
Phil, fingers crossed for the next attempt. Once it's behind you (and you got the record:-)), would you mind some nerdy video about your bike setup for this effort?
@madwank
@madwank 3 года назад
Good luck Phil. Loving the Everesting videos, thank you!
@ryanmonaghan3733
@ryanmonaghan3733 3 года назад
Sweet cat painting 🔥🔥🔥
@FasCatCoaching
@FasCatCoaching 3 года назад
that is THE HED Disc Wheel that Tom Zirbel piloted to 4th place in the 2009 World Time Trial Championships in Switzerland. Still has the original tubular! Of course the airlines cracked the rim on the flight home so he gave it to Coach Big Cat and this wheel hung outside the FasCat Performance Center for 5 years in North Boulder.
@maguilecutty
@maguilecutty 3 года назад
This is GREAT content PG. Thanks heaps for generating this. Really cool that you are so open with the process and numbers.
@ad9898
@ad9898 3 года назад
Good luck Phil, looking forward to the attempt.
@scottleech9571
@scottleech9571 3 года назад
Super cool Phil , great to have insight instead of all the secrets from other pros
@TexasWindTech
@TexasWindTech 3 года назад
Using Negative Splits really helps me with pacing. I use to always start to hard and end up with 20% lower numbers. I've achieved all my highest numbers in every zone using this technique. If the goal is averaging 310 watt, not exceeding 307 on the first half would be a great goal (310 on the kickers and 305 on lower grades (pending time on different grades)) and 313 on the back half. Good luck achieving all your goals.
@overthebarscycling2463
@overthebarscycling2463 3 года назад
I miss working with Jake and the Fascat crew. Maybe once racing starts back up again I’ll get back in their program. If that ever happens 🤷‍♂️.
@keithburt7874
@keithburt7874 3 года назад
Vicariously following, climbing depends on muscles that only Cycling allows me to use, Grazie e Pace O/O°
@OnEvenKeel
@OnEvenKeel 3 года назад
You're a true (albeit retired) professional, Phil.
@SendingStache
@SendingStache 3 года назад
Good luck on the next go around! Would love to see this record live locally and be held by you!
@danielsiapin
@danielsiapin 3 года назад
What streets in Mt. Washington? Crane is the only one I can think of. Eldred is friggin nuts, but that's Highland Park until you get to the top of the steps at Cross Ave.
@Gorlim
@Gorlim 3 года назад
Great video, rooting for you on your next go! Was the Wahoo giving you live segment times even though you were cutting the start off?
@thewidesight
@thewidesight 3 года назад
The actual record holder Sean Gardner was nearly one hour faster than Gaimon at his record from May2020. Good luck beating this time!!!
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 3 года назад
So genuine question, not goofing, why not go for a personal best which splits the difference between the record and your previous best, something like that and just keep getting better and smoother until, for sure, you are ready to be a contender for the title. I get the go for broke vibe, but this isn't an annual race or something which takes forever to come around again. You are free to do it as often as you want--upon recovery--and it is a cool endeavor, quite the accomplishment to climb for hours against the clock like that.
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 года назад
Effort-wise I did that in training. Also you really don’t want to do this kind of day more than you have to. I was messed up for awhile after the last one
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 3 года назад
@@worstretirementever Thanks, Phil, for the explanation and here's hoping you're cleared for liftoff again soon.
@ChrisinOSMS
@ChrisinOSMS 3 года назад
Best of luck! I believe.
@daniels.2720
@daniels.2720 3 года назад
Nola barks when Frank mentions 'Rest' = right on cue...
@bitminerbob6731
@bitminerbob6731 3 года назад
I think having your power data being displayed in your glasses would help a lot too, rather than having to look at your Garmin or wahoo element for your power data. Eversight does the data display in your glasses too. Maybe they could jump on as a sponsor?
@squealer42
@squealer42 3 года назад
If you didn't go for it already this weekend, next Friday currently looks good! Especially for me as I watch from the sofa :-)
@franklevy709
@franklevy709 3 года назад
Would it make sense to do 1-2 hours in darkness for cool temps. The descent would be a bit slower - but high-powered headlamps are getting really lightweight.
@PierreAlainMaire
@PierreAlainMaire 3 года назад
Very interesting tips for training ! Would have been horrible to land short of the everesting because of a few ft ( x 60) ...
@hermanvansch4939
@hermanvansch4939 3 года назад
Why not do it at night? Probably less traffic and temp will be lower for sure
@dsmith3857
@dsmith3857 3 года назад
Need to be able to see on the descents at 50mph though
@vivianvandermerwe1380
@vivianvandermerwe1380 3 года назад
The descent on that segment is frightening during the day with a few twists and turns, at night would be very high risk I would think, not enough lighting for cars and pedestrians to see you
@TheMeyerchris7
@TheMeyerchris7 3 года назад
@@dsmith3857 a concern for sure. But i also suspect for a couple grand you could get a generator and some flood lights to run along the course.
@fetcui
@fetcui 3 года назад
More critters out at night as well..
@xCrugixX
@xCrugixX 3 года назад
I guess you would also have to adjust your day night rythem, if you want to be awake and recovered
@danh9225
@danh9225 3 года назад
Go Phil. You can do it!
@user-yn5sk5ru5g
@user-yn5sk5ru5g 3 года назад
What about an hour elevation gain record attempt?
@gttim
@gttim 3 года назад
Overton needs a window behind him on his zoom calls.
@scottc8351
@scottc8351 3 года назад
He had one but it shifted to the right
@Vader0325
@Vader0325 3 года назад
@@scottc8351 evolved to the right
@agie170hss2
@agie170hss2 3 года назад
You've got almost 100k followers Phil !! Can we crowdfund enough money to pay for putting in a dead-straight, 1 mile long piece of 20% pavement somewhere for you? 😊
@trixibellalestrange7232
@trixibellalestrange7232 3 года назад
The Phil Gaimon road?
@agie170hss2
@agie170hss2 3 года назад
@@trixibellalestrange7232 Absolutely! .... and then Phil could charge other riders to use the "Phil Gaimon Rd." as additional "Retirement" income?
@trixibellalestrange7232
@trixibellalestrange7232 3 года назад
@@agie170hss2 $5 toll fee for every 50 feet? $2.50 if you're on a bike?
@maxeylifetv2676
@maxeylifetv2676 3 года назад
E-Biking prohibited 🚫 sign post at a prominent spot.
@Imtheman1977
@Imtheman1977 3 года назад
I thought you had to conclude the lap to qualify?
@markdragovan9466
@markdragovan9466 3 года назад
Hey Phil. You have astounding power to weight, but also power to frontal area is also high. This suggests trying to break the hour record on the track for your age group. Of course, we all know about your crash, but with the hour record you can only crash yourself. With the form you will have you could do it at one of the events the LAvelodrome has where there are officials etc. during the summer. You don't have to worry about the weather either, and its *only* an hour! I'm in Pasadena and would go to the velodrome a lot; the problem I had with long solo efforts is that my neck would give out. Additional training needed for that!
@golfaddict75
@golfaddict75 3 года назад
You should invest into wireless earbuds like AirPods they are great!
@troycollett8540
@troycollett8540 3 года назад
Sounds like you are well on track to get the record back.you just need the weather to play nice
@molokocycling
@molokocycling 3 года назад
Phil, have you checked if your power meter reads differently through big temp swings? Might be worth checking mate.
@nicholasmasciaga4777
@nicholasmasciaga4777 3 года назад
Good point, perhaps using VAM alongside power might help
@cory1newton
@cory1newton 3 года назад
Phil probably calibrates/zero offsets his PM before every ride like you’re supposed to (some PM’s do an auto-reset zero during riding). Plus most PM’s have “active temperature compensation” so no worries there.
@larrylem3582
@larrylem3582 3 года назад
I thought there was going to be a problem with the turnaround where you carried 10 mph as you started back up the hill. But I don't know how all of the other record holders did their runs. I imagine the same way.
@twowheelslater7112
@twowheelslater7112 3 года назад
Still one hell of a training ride.
@jessetamez7362
@jessetamez7362 3 года назад
Any chance you will switch to disc brakes, I think the shorter more confident stops would make up for the weight gain.
@davidrbyrne
@davidrbyrne 3 года назад
Normally I would agree with you, but did you see how hot he came into those turns on the rim brakes?
@lezardvaleth99
@lezardvaleth99 3 года назад
I get exhausted riding the bus at 30 Celsius.
@Btstaz
@Btstaz 3 года назад
I think you need a longer hill, those turn around times have cost. (be it is okay if I am totally wrong)
@cyclonasaurusrex1525
@cyclonasaurusrex1525 3 года назад
Two days to recover? Hell, I still hurt from just watching the attempt.
@benjaminogle11
@benjaminogle11 3 года назад
interesting listening to Fascat - tried signing up for one of his plans but the discount code doesn't work. Is there a new one?
@FasCatCoaching
@FasCatCoaching 3 года назад
fixed that coupon to work if you would try again 🙏
@markokitzing4291
@markokitzing4291 3 года назад
Phil, had you been faster, you could have been done before the heat. I'm just sayin...
@henrikboe4648
@henrikboe4648 3 года назад
Are you allowed to use a hill on the other side to avoid slowing down at the bottom? So the vertical gain up the other side also counts and you put all of the speed at the bottom to good use?
@charlesbisbee3014
@charlesbisbee3014 3 года назад
Unfortunately not
@Simon-le2jk
@Simon-le2jk 3 года назад
i wouldn't trust gps data for elevation. maybe find some better source to not guess the actual number, especially a source which is not strava
@stuartdryer1352
@stuartdryer1352 3 года назад
Just curious, for someone like Phil, on a typical training ride, what would be the TSS?
@aneczka2114
@aneczka2114 3 года назад
Really good video
@bertchalmers
@bertchalmers 3 года назад
I think mised why you would have been disqualified? That extra 10ft per lap??
@pro353
@pro353 3 года назад
yeah exactly. his strava segment was a little off so he wasn't on track to do enough elevation.
@TheCnoonan123
@TheCnoonan123 3 года назад
Come to Ireland!
@tomjfrye
@tomjfrye 3 года назад
Wednesday, Phil.
@thomaso9757
@thomaso9757 3 года назад
cant you do it in night time, when it is nice and '''cold''?
@nicholasmasciaga4777
@nicholasmasciaga4777 3 года назад
It's also dark, when he's coming down the hill he's FLYING and that would be mega dangerous
@maxeylifetv2676
@maxeylifetv2676 3 года назад
Can’t he do it in the winter? Or some other hill where it is cooler?
@adumbberg
@adumbberg 3 года назад
Phil- you doin' ok man? Did someone wake you up and tell you that you were filming a video intro in 2 minutes? ;-)
@w4yland3r27
@w4yland3r27 3 года назад
Cantador has a gun off camera.
@Hill_Walker
@Hill_Walker 3 года назад
Are you planning on having discs or a disc on your next attempt?
@ytubela
@ytubela 3 года назад
Every gram counts. Since disc brakes weigh more than rim brakes, that's why he chose to use his rim brake bike.
@dustind9242
@dustind9242 3 года назад
Is that a golden cheetah on his wall?
@AngusOg69
@AngusOg69 3 года назад
..
@DaaamnGina
@DaaamnGina 3 года назад
So sorry 300+ watt repeats didn’t hurt enough
@cory1newton
@cory1newton 3 года назад
Does the FasCat still mis-pronounce Phil’s last name? Peel Diamond. Not Gay-mon. Gotta be an inside joke I’m guessing?
@damon123jones
@damon123jones 3 года назад
the decsnt looked too dangerous
@verfelipe4576
@verfelipe4576 3 года назад
Wala ka pala ehhh
@newname2351
@newname2351 3 года назад
disqualified for meth? yeah, don't smoke that on a ride
@gustavorincon1640
@gustavorincon1640 3 года назад
What a fail! No no no no, you should retire, honestly... Wait... :v
@reflectionsdetail
@reflectionsdetail 3 года назад
#ffp
@tonycrabtree3416
@tonycrabtree3416 3 года назад
Find a true loop next time.
@mhilde7744
@mhilde7744 3 года назад
You quit....end of story. Great lesson.
@Vader0325
@Vader0325 3 года назад
You didn’t fail comma you just didn’t accomplish your mission dot dot dot this time exclamation mark
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