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What I Love & Hate About the Maserati Granturismo 

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@italianstallion3130
@italianstallion3130 Год назад
Jeremy Clarksons line about Maserati “it’s like owning a 2 year old child- it’s really annoying most of the time but if anyone tried to take it away from you you’d kill them” is by far the truest statement ever made about Maserati V8 ownership
@MrMpvincent69
@MrMpvincent69 Год назад
That's so true 😅
@eritreafocus6707
@eritreafocus6707 4 месяца назад
Very true indeed
@robertm3730
@robertm3730 18 дней назад
Until you have to start paying for the 2 year old.
@zaafarj
@zaafarj 3 года назад
Love the sound of Maserati engines
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Me too!!
@ronniejaye1
@ronniejaye1 3 года назад
I love that Maserati uses the same type of exhaust as the Ferraris . It's awesomeness
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
I agree. It sounds great!
@tima.478
@tima.478 3 года назад
The 4.7 V-8 that powers this car is assembled by and in the Ferrari plant.
@mihailhidler5400
@mihailhidler5400 3 года назад
@@tima.478 it's a ferrari engine with a stroker and different figures. Even the steering wheel came off a 612, correct me if I m wrong.
@tima.478
@tima.478 3 года назад
@@mihailhidler5400 The F136 engine, commonly known as Ferrari-Maserati engine, is a family of 90° V8 petrol engines jointly developed by Ferrari and Maserati in 2001. The Ferrari configuration is a 180° flat-plane crankshaft. The Maserati is a 90° cross-plane crankshaft. The flat-plane Ferrari is obvious built and designed more for speed than the Maserati engine.
@the80386
@the80386 3 года назад
@@tima.478 Maserati uses cross-plane while Ferrari uses flat-plane.
@incufan32
@incufan32 3 года назад
You don’t meet a lot of Maserati men, but what a unique and fun car to drive!
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Thanks, John!
@MrMpvincent69
@MrMpvincent69 Год назад
Buy one. I have ❤. I love it and every one who sees or hears it loves it. .. I've no regrets buying mine😁🥰
@GhureAshi
@GhureAshi 3 года назад
I love maserati so much. This blue is my favorite. This is Munia. Greetings my friend.
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Thanks, Munia! It's a lot of fun!
@kevincook7495
@kevincook7495 3 года назад
Great review.....you identified far more than others in the good and not so good things on this car. Many thanks
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Thanks, Kevin! Just trying to share the deets!
@kurtkaster5666
@kurtkaster5666 3 года назад
Beautiful car! I feel ya about the automatic trans, having the paddles allows you to interact, but when you want to just cruise along, it shifts for you. Best of both worlds in my opinion.
@CafeRacer1975
@CafeRacer1975 8 месяцев назад
Because your world must suck. MANual is the only truly engaging transmission
@motivationinc6415
@motivationinc6415 2 года назад
This car looks way better the any 2022 car and sounds better
@diegocorrales844
@diegocorrales844 3 года назад
Eyyy, I live around there. Vernon Hills! My pops also went to NU funnily enough. I haven’t checked on your channel in ages but am blown away by how much it’s grown. I was here in the beginning but then stopped watching RU-vid for a while. A couple of my buddies and I used to watch your videos back in the day. Can’t believe time passed like that. Now I’m gettin ready to go to college and stuff. Definitely gonna be tuning into the channel more often now
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Welcome back, Diego! Your early views kept me going!!
@Jay-sz5dt
@Jay-sz5dt 3 года назад
Currently looking into get these car! Seems like great car and looking to trade in my charger 392. I always was fan of gran turisomo sport
@josephaugustine8315
@josephaugustine8315 3 года назад
3:20 LMFAO "pretty BADASS"
@HUNTELAAR11W
@HUNTELAAR11W Год назад
Great video and explanation!!
@JDogCOII
@JDogCOII 3 года назад
Honestly I can see these Maserati Grand Turismos actually going up in value significantly over the next few years. Values may be down now but I can definitely see them rebounding
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
That would be nice! It's strange when a Maserati is a good value option compared to a lot of other cars.
@JDogCOII
@JDogCOII 3 года назад
@@petervonpandain the future collectors will want an old school Italian V8 engine that sings. Especially when the only other option is an electric car.
@infringinator
@infringinator 3 года назад
so $160,00 new and $50,000 used 6 years later? Okay.
@atownish1488hh
@atownish1488hh 2 года назад
​@@infringinator that's a lot of expensive cars
@bigmacdaddy1234
@bigmacdaddy1234 2 года назад
Well, the future is here now and you were wrong.
@rrpinsanfrancisco8598
@rrpinsanfrancisco8598 3 года назад
I also own a GranTurmiso Sport. Enjoyed the review. Check out our Bespoke Removable Front License Plate Action Camera Mount for the Maserati GranTurmiso, No Drilling! QR502.
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Nice choice, RRP! Plate/camera mount? Fascinating!
@hardipusa
@hardipusa 3 года назад
Peter von Panda back with another banger :)
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Thanks, Hardip! I was looking for something a little different
@seaandskyandseandsky
@seaandskyandseandsky 2 года назад
I wanted one bad...then saw your comments about inclement rainy weather. Living near Seattle on a windy hilly road...you stopped me from any more lust for this car..Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@nova_squad_bossx1818
@nova_squad_bossx1818 2 года назад
I live in Seattle buying a white one this weekend 😁
@SAVAGE8
@SAVAGE8 Год назад
This car is a Masterpiece 🔱, lot of people are gone wish they bought one and kept it for a long period of time, this Masterpiece is gone be one of a kind collectable classic pretty soon.
@andygriffiths9916
@andygriffiths9916 2 года назад
Break peddle is also slightly too big makes it easier to hit in error.
@ramonkey2939
@ramonkey2939 3 года назад
Cool the front end upgrades are very nice!
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Thanks, Ramon! I really wanted the front end upgrade too
@MetroCollectablesandvlogs
@MetroCollectablesandvlogs 3 года назад
Def will be looking into one. Seems fun
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
It's kind of weird that it's a lot of car for a fair price.
@MetroCollectablesandvlogs
@MetroCollectablesandvlogs 3 года назад
@@petervonpanda absolutely, 454 HP , V8 and Italian. Doesn't get much better then that for around 38k. I'm hoping to find one in like 6 months. Appreciate the video.
@rhettoracle9679
@rhettoracle9679 3 года назад
I love that you have one and hate that I don't! Cheers
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
It’s available for joy rides
@charlieryan1736
@charlieryan1736 3 года назад
Thanks for making this informative and helpful review video
@lvbadboy
@lvbadboy 3 года назад
2011 so the previous owner upgraded the front bumper to look 2nd gen?
@halhansen6990
@halhansen6990 Год назад
From NYC. Grrrreat Review!!!
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda Год назад
Thanks, Hal!
@michaelgarwood7704
@michaelgarwood7704 3 года назад
Mate i am just about to buy a 2009 GTS with low mileage, even though your car is a bit later you gave me some good tips....Thanks a lot cheers. BTW, I live in a city with many sports cars but there is no other car out there with the pure roar of this Maserati.
@sprezzatura8755
@sprezzatura8755 Год назад
Are the early 4.2 cars to be avoided?
@dspada67
@dspada67 3 года назад
Hi from Western Australia. I am moving away from e92 M3 and want to go back to my Italian roots. Looking at a 4200 GT or a quatroporto 2008 ZF 6 speed. Or do I spend more and go to 2008 like you current ride. But 4.2 lt with ZF box. Appreciate your advice.
@Bob-cd5pp
@Bob-cd5pp 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for your Honesty...
@chidoriz585
@chidoriz585 3 года назад
most beautiful used italian car under $100k
@themaseratiinn5743
@themaseratiinn5743 3 года назад
For $1k you can order a set of the interior trim in real original Maserati carbon fiber so you can get rid of the wood..
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
I would love that, Francisco. But I’m cheap
@chriskarathanasis5120
@chriskarathanasis5120 3 года назад
Can you give me the web sight Francisco love to order the carbon fiber
@NedimMekanic
@NedimMekanic Год назад
great review man. Well done
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda Год назад
Much appreciated, Nedim!
@seen3804
@seen3804 Год назад
this is my dream car. to the tee
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda Год назад
me too!
@JuanGonzalez-bf8eh
@JuanGonzalez-bf8eh Год назад
It's beautiful 😍 👌👌
@pieyield2255
@pieyield2255 3 года назад
This went from a Product review Channel to Doug demuro
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
More like Doug Demuro’s dog’s table scraps.
@charlesclement383
@charlesclement383 3 года назад
Did you know that Maseratis are one of the most often ticketed vehicles, Along with Alfa Romeos, VW Golf GTI, DODGE RAM and the Subaru WRX? Yep. I never got a ticket in mine, but my Fiat 500 Abarth? Yes.
@infringinator
@infringinator 3 года назад
You're thinking of a FIAT Dale. Fix it again tony.
@5gg-h6k
@5gg-h6k 3 года назад
Love that sound
@bassstudent4life
@bassstudent4life 2 года назад
2011??? i thought this style front bumper didn't come out until 2013?
@RyneLanders
@RyneLanders 3 года назад
The F1 is great, I have it in my Ferrari and love it. Wish more of these GTs had them, apparently it's only like 1 model year in America. In Europe the MC Stradale still had it as an option. Their MC Stradale is better than ours. 😣
@M23Trade
@M23Trade Год назад
Thanks for this video
@funkyfp
@funkyfp 3 года назад
Appreciate the review/info, would love to get one in the future
@itisaporsche
@itisaporsche 3 года назад
Agree about brake & gas pedal on same plane is a flaw. I often press both pedals at same time when I intend to break (2014 M-GT).
@itisaporsche
@itisaporsche 3 года назад
Also...each time I put my seat bely on I dislocate my shoulder trying to reach the belt. Love my GT though.
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Same issues with me. I’m not sure how the pedals didn’t get slightly different levels but I guess it’s a quirk to get used to
@itisaporsche
@itisaporsche 3 года назад
@@petervonpanda I recently did a paint correction on mine then added a ceramic coating...came out great given it was my first time. I have black with red interior. But I LOVE your blue GT!!
@thefreedomguyuk
@thefreedomguyuk Год назад
Remove the badge, and nobody will ever notice it isn't a Ferrari California. This one is looking lovely !
@user-1500HP
@user-1500HP Год назад
That is why the automated manuals are preferable. You get all the Drama from upshifts and especially the downshifts !
@CafeRacer1975
@CafeRacer1975 8 месяцев назад
This isn't an automated manual champ. It's an autotragic transmission. There is no DCT offered on this car.
@mihailhidler5400
@mihailhidler5400 3 года назад
Great Material, thanks :)
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
My pleasure, Dan!
@weloveentertainment9255
@weloveentertainment9255 3 года назад
feel like their dated technology is done on purpose so years from now it gives the illusion they been around even though their gaps between their new models
@razor7241
@razor7241 2 года назад
Now I know how you are able to buy multiple Autoflex shafts!
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 2 года назад
I consider it research!
@sanjsub2725
@sanjsub2725 3 года назад
Peter Great review.... by the way of the two which sounds better to you from exhaust note only?
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
The GranSport had the best sound particularly when driving and shifting
@HolyBritannia
@HolyBritannia 3 года назад
Love this video! I'm thinking about getting one, but worried about service and maintenance costs. How much would you say is an average oil change, brake change, and overall reliability?
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
The oil change is not cheap. I went to the dealership for the last service and it was $500. I'm sure you can find a cheaper place, and I've seen guys online do it themselves for under $200. I don't put a ton of miles on it.... only about 1000 miles/year at the moment, but will probably drive it more next year. So far though, it's been a champ!
@HolyBritannia
@HolyBritannia 3 года назад
@@petervonpanda Got it thanks! This is very helpful!
@theamazingmrz317
@theamazingmrz317 2 года назад
That’s reasonable especially considered that it’s the same service cost as a base Macan! Lol
@abdosimon
@abdosimon 2 года назад
I spilled a fizzy water on the ebrake. That was a grand. It is what it is
@venturacarmona7672
@venturacarmona7672 Год назад
Is it a car worth to have in 2023? I am quite confused, I own a 2012 mas GT (granturismo) of course wiht the f1 engine, however do newer Granturismo have ferrari engines? Is the mc stradale a better option than a gt now adays?
@tasnam
@tasnam 3 года назад
Mine 2016 does NOT stay in Sport mode once off....where is the setting?
@philbarnes9361
@philbarnes9361 3 года назад
I have an alfa and that too has the sticky plastics. Seems to affect all fiat group cars. I am at the moment looking at maserati in the uk but im torn on which to go for its close but no1 is gransport for me followed by granturismo. Im thinking gransport being lighter would be more sporty. Also here gransports are starting to increase in value unlike granturismos. Love the exhaust sound of the 4.2-4.7 v8 maser, better than a lambo. Which is the better drivers car?
@Bigsky1991
@Bigsky1991 7 месяцев назад
Affects all European cars because they are ALL made by the same Company. Porsche/ BMW/Audis are notorious for this...especially when they experience American sunshine.
@eddherring4972
@eddherring4972 3 года назад
The only thing I really (really) don’t like about your car is the black around the back, it looks like there’s a load of tape around the lights. EDIT 25:05
@shine300
@shine300 3 года назад
Hey Peter I saw your gransport video and granturismo video. I’m thinking of getting a granturismo with the cambiacorsa f1 transmission. Which do you recommend the automatic or f1 since you’ve driven both transmissions.
@Bigsky1991
@Bigsky1991 7 месяцев назад
Haaaaaaaaaate black wheels...but I like the blacked out emblems. Nice color though. Im shopping aggressively for a White or Blue GT- S model.
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 7 месяцев назад
Oh man you're going to love it!!!
@dspada67
@dspada67 3 года назад
Very nice.
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Thanks!
@-ZIO
@-ZIO 2 года назад
What year is this car? I am not sure if you mention it, or if I just missed it.
@kaspar_1982
@kaspar_1982 Год назад
a poor mans Ferrari California, i like the blue however the dark red interior would be my choice and not the bright red. tan also looks incredible too. dark tan.
@nocolo123
@nocolo123 3 года назад
4.2 liter 404 hp 4.7(09-10)424hp(11-12)434hp (12mc)444hp (13+)454hp
@18000rpm
@18000rpm 3 года назад
No 4.2L 399hp, 4.7 (09-12) 433hp.
@fastestride2990
@fastestride2990 3 года назад
Is that an aftermarket front or stock? Looks post face-lift
@bryanhallman8183
@bryanhallman8183 Год назад
I do miss the wide open areas in Illinois... where were you driving through? McHenry?
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda Год назад
Yep, exactly! Johnsburg area!
@bryanhallman8183
@bryanhallman8183 Год назад
@@petervonpanda I played against a little league team from out that way. Back then it was mostly farmland. (81-82-83)
@kirktilton1863
@kirktilton1863 2 года назад
2011? how many miles on it? i have a gibli and love it! and currently looking at a used 2014 garnd tourismo
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 2 года назад
About 9,000 miles
@JiMmY-fm9xq
@JiMmY-fm9xq 3 года назад
Hey peter, do you hear rattle sound at idle after you start car?And goes away after you drive off?I have 2016 I just wonder if it happens all GT. I really didnt care for years but my warranty ending next year so just asking if i should take it to dealer for it. This is my one of 3 maseratis I had started since 2014. ghibli sq4, 2016 GT sport, 2018 quattroporte glan lusso(totaled), just love maserati sound, GT has best sound of all.
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
I'd have to check, but it's possible. I feel like a rattle on start might be the cam variators. I'm not sure if this model had an issue with them, but I know the Gransports had that issue.
@shine300
@shine300 3 года назад
Take it in to the dealer if under warranty. Could be the variators a known issue but usually on early model cars.
@gibrass1
@gibrass1 Год назад
I see that you are in Illinois. I am in Chicagoland as well. How does the GT do in snowy weather here in Chicago? Is it dangerous to drive here during snow days?
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda Год назад
I'm sure it is. I've never driven it in snow, but I have driven it in rain, and it sucks in rain. The back end fishtails all the time when the ground is wet. Taking turns with it in rain is hairy... like using those long off-ramps the car is squirrelly when wet.
@gibrass1
@gibrass1 Год назад
@@petervonpanda thanks for the response. looks like i'll have to pass on the GT then...at least until I can afford a winter car + GT.
@andrewthach1989
@andrewthach1989 2 года назад
Sold my C5 Vette. Now looking at a 2012 Maserati grandturismo MC with 70k miles for $36k. How reliable has yours been since the video?
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 2 года назад
Mine has been a solid champ. In terms of older cars, this one has been pretty hassle free.
@Renzii
@Renzii 2 года назад
Did you purchase yet? Deciding on either the 2009 granturismo $23k (70k miles) or a c6 corvette $26k (57k).
@kevinwysocki3182
@kevinwysocki3182 Год назад
Simple. 4 seats VS 2. ..... 4 wins
@dailybible5426
@dailybible5426 Год назад
what did you end up getting?
@kbrickell4732
@kbrickell4732 2 года назад
The Mazza is 4 seater the SL500 is 2 seater
@FueledBy.Passion
@FueledBy.Passion 2 года назад
Try a custom spacer made for the brake pedal to raise it. Problem solved!
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace 3 года назад
How do you find it compares to your previous Maserati Gransport?
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Great question. There’s a lot different. The gransport skews more hard core sports car and this is more of a comfortable cruiser. It’s also much longer, maybe a foot. I think the gransport is more of an enthusiast drivers car and this is more comfort focused. Both are great. I wish I also had the gransport still.
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace 3 года назад
@@petervonpanda thanks! Is your granturismo the 4.2 or 4.7? I think the 4.7 is closer to the Gransport in performance. Thanks for your thoughts!
@miketysonjr7144
@miketysonjr7144 2 года назад
It’s a 4.7
@johns944S2
@johns944S2 Год назад
Yeah, nice video on the gransport. I also own one. I was surprised you sold it as it seemed like you didn’t have it for long. Afraid to sell mine cause I think it’ll be one I’d miss too much !
@kirktilton1863
@kirktilton1863 2 года назад
what year is this Maserati ?
@tonypalmer8940
@tonypalmer8940 3 года назад
This all sounds good , but it may look the business, and stunning performance, but not safe and confident to drive, as a Mercedes CLS 63, or s 63. There is a big difference with the Germans
@408SPLKINGS
@408SPLKINGS 3 года назад
Great honest indepth ocd picky as hell review 👍. While Maserati, Aston Martin & Jaguar may look similar, build quality is night & day different. Cars built in Britland may be luxurious but they are utter 💩 4 drive train. Britland brands including Range Rover need engine or transmission replacement frequently during the life of ownership. Ferrari engines are race breed & meant to be driven hard with passion & authority. No stinking Aston, Jag or Rover winning F1.
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Thanks!! I love the looks of British cars. Some are absolutely amazing!
@CafeRacer1975
@CafeRacer1975 8 месяцев назад
And suddenly, at 17:46 mark, you have proven why your channel shouldn't be taken seriously for any reviews outside of family cars and minivans. A flat pedal design is intended for sporty driving .. heel toe "shifting". While this is an autotragic it does allow for you to apply a small amount of break pressure while accellerating though a turn. This puts a small amount of clamping force on the front brakes to allow for a small amount of gravitational shift.. thay shift in weight helps you steer the car around the turn quicker and as you release the brake and apply more pressure to the gas the weight shifts to the rear wheels, helping you to laungh out of a turn even faster. Calling an automatic with a padle shifter the best of both worlds also adds to the insantity thay someone would take you seriously. I hate all autoshifting cars, but of you want the best if both worlds it would be a dual clutch automatic transmission. These are a comouter, automagically shifted manual. Anything else is just a slush bix thay belongs in a luxury car or minivan.
@Wolf-xu1fj
@Wolf-xu1fj 2 года назад
What year is this?
@simonjohansson5226
@simonjohansson5226 3 года назад
Love the taillights, to bad the video is unfocused, car looks blurry 😞
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
You're right, Simon. I noticed that too after I shot it. It's because of my old camera, which I replaced after doing this video. Stinks that I filmed for 10 minutes not knowing how fuzzy everything looked.
@infringinator
@infringinator 3 года назад
@@petervonpanda you should make a new video of you talking 10% and the engine 100%
@andygtv
@andygtv 3 года назад
What a dude you would let me drive it😀
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
Sure, Andrew!
@andygtv
@andygtv 3 года назад
@@petervonpanda Great when in Uk you can drive my Alfa😀
@infringinator
@infringinator 3 года назад
Test drive like in death proof movie lol
@CoffeeMadeMeSay
@CoffeeMadeMeSay 3 года назад
Is it expensive to maintain as a daily driver ?
@tima.478
@tima.478 3 года назад
Not at all, been daily driving mine for 4 years now. My BMW 535i has cost me a lot more...
@mark1542
@mark1542 3 года назад
@@tima.478 wow interesting
@tima.478
@tima.478 3 года назад
@@mark1542 Indeed! lol
@infringinator
@infringinator 3 года назад
well the taxable rate for registration will make you pay about $600 a year and your insurance will be higher and you have to use premium gas and oh by the way 12mpg so gas every other day? Also the tires last 10,000 miles apparently. The public bus is the cheapest daily driver I use.
@morpheophantasm8332
@morpheophantasm8332 2 года назад
@@infringinator in Texas you pay just once for taxable registration ... another reason to get out of California ;p
@HooMeye
@HooMeye 3 года назад
What a strange reason to change a car you like.
@franciscocunhaetavora9132
@franciscocunhaetavora9132 2 месяца назад
learn to focus
@ChicagoCannabisConnoisse-ls4id
@ChicagoCannabisConnoisse-ls4id 3 года назад
Badass car man this guy is very wealthy wtf.
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
No, cannabis is where the real money is at
@marcodalli5045
@marcodalli5045 3 года назад
You lend your Maserati to friends? Are you mad. It takes a week to learn how to drive the 4200 , or you will kill the clutch.
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 3 года назад
I feel like they're meant to be enjoyed!
@jeffyounce3992
@jeffyounce3992 3 года назад
Dude, I have a 08 GT 14k miles. What you love N hate shouldn't be about LE pulling you over? It should be about the vehicle!
@astonmartin4360
@astonmartin4360 2 года назад
You can buy this car or flush dollar bills down the toilet.The toilet is so much more fun.
@jingojanga73
@jingojanga73 5 месяцев назад
That thing is sexy af 😍
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 5 месяцев назад
I agree!
@JDogCOII
@JDogCOII 3 года назад
NERD ALERT
@sahmedt9
@sahmedt9 3 года назад
Chinese give rona
@spinalbkdr2
@spinalbkdr2 3 года назад
Lenn Ovo your are an idiot!
@pissywilly
@pissywilly 2 года назад
Can you get a 7'-6" fishing rod in the cabin area? Beautiful car 😍
@adventurousx8220
@adventurousx8220 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful beautiful car the problem is when you sit in these cars it feels like you're in the 1980s all the buttons are cheap plastic sticky and broken doesn't even have a backup camera doesn't even have Bluetooth doesn't have a heads up display doesn't even have a sunroof and the list goes on and on not to mention it's so slow. You're better off buying a Jaguar xfr the same year or more with 510 horsepower and all the luxury features that will blow you away drive both of them and I guarantee you pick the xfr
@petervonpanda
@petervonpanda 5 месяцев назад
I don't know why they used that black plastic that gets sticky. It seems like it always goes bad and doesn't really add any value at the start anyway.
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