[What-If 10 MOVIE] Super Goku VS GT Goku (DBS Manga VS DBGT, Super Saiyan Blue VS Super Saiyan 4). 

+Hyoringjutsu have you ever done a Sonic vs Goku sprite video, or no, and this channel is only about DB.

Hyourinjutsu you have no idea how excited i am for this. All my friends and I are grabbing snacks to watch this. I'll be back to be salty about the outcome. XD loving salt. Very proud of you sir. Keep up the good work!

Your welcome, man! Thanks for making another awesome vid.

Bro your animation are amazing u make db so interesting then the show

I think I would love Jo Jo animations and this vid was amazing keep up the good work

Yes

Monke smarter than the blue tho

@@pedepato251 in decisions and attitude, yes. But in fighting........ NOPE

@@jedy5658 actually yes

@@jedy5658 for example goku managed to fight a shadow dragon blind I'm guessing the longer the fight goes the stronger the form gets and the form makes the user adapt to everything so if fought a destroyer for a long time it could learn and grow eventually winning or losing depending on how much power the destroyer is using

@@evanwashington1685 he wasn't imitating the gods, he surpassed them.

@@evanwashington1685 every god of destruction was years ago a mortal. that's why whis ask to goku if he would become a new god. every mortal can. this gt goku is incredibly powerful in normal base, not near as toppo of course, not even ultimate gohan, but that's it. and ssj4 for his stamina drain is very powerful

Blackinstinct HD zamsu: I wish I stole his body instead

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@@evanwashington1685 agreed

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Yes Even as Super Saiyan 2 he rivaled Super Saiyan God

It makes sense too. This is the same GT Goku who pretended to still be blind, so that he could catch Omega Shenron off-guard and land a killing blow with a full-powered Dragon Fist (which would have worked if OS couldn't regenerate).

yea GT Goku has cool plot and his brains make him so unique I like him very much

He wanked GT beyond belief he's getting one shotted 🗿

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SSB Goku: fuck you.

ultra instinct would like to talk to you

@@LavaCreeperPeople that’s literally just reskined base goku or god

@@justaguywithagoodphoto4801 not rlly but i see your point

@@LavaCreeperPeople explAin how

"Work smarter, not harder" -cloaker, PAYDAY 2

I really appreciate how it goes in both directions. Whoever is being clever at that point ends up winning a segment of the fight. It's really great writing.

Transformations vs experience, baby!

Not really. It just shows how less experienced Super Goku is as a fighter than GT Goku, how reliant he is on power over skill (which is weird given Z Goku was not like this but whatever). GT Goku utilizes both ideals, he fights hard but uses his skills as efficiently as he can as well.

@@stormcutter59 Goku's reliance on power is actually a flaw that Roshi points out to him in the manga (which is who this Super Goku is based on) so yeah you're pretty spot-on.

He would still lose in actuality because manga Super Goku is just as experienced as GT Goku and his base would be more than enough to handle SSJ4

GT GOKU IS FIGHTING MANGA GOKU. IN THE ANIME GOKU NEVER USES MASTERED SSJB

@@legendarysaiyan3263 I know. I am using manga Goku and saying he still one shots GT Goku

Again tho this is Manga Goku he doesnt use to much strats their in thr Anime he is much more like ssj4 goku.

@@projectzfoundation3065 Manga Goku is still stronger in base than SSJ4 Goku. SSJ1 Goku Black was overwhelming and blitzing SSB Vegeta in the black arc. And after training for their second visit, Goku and Vegeta exceeded that same Goku Black

It would make SSGSS4 canon and I would absolutely adore that retcon if it were to occur.

YES

"What about a person that praticed 1000 techniques for 1000 years?" -Random paisano

demon slayer manga where zimetsu kills the fake successor of the breath of thunder/lightning.

Or Netero's 100 Hand attack in HxH

@@finnmarek2220 he wont forgive you

Well it's because ssj4 is just the full potential of a Saiyan brought out

SS4 makes saiyans a little more brutal than normal. Kinda like how 3 alters the personality, but to a greater degree.

@@ByrneBaby how does it make them more brutal

@@Xester_200 They gain the form by going great ape then regaining consciousness. They're basically giant apes in miniature form.

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Monke

Yes

Imagine stealing 😂

Ilike the tail

He was right with a saiyan tail, if we conbine fpssj4 and complete ssjb, the power will be higher than ui omen, and slightly lower than mui!

I feel like super could really improve on the design of SS4, tails are the only things that real make saians unique but the design of the form always bothered me in GT

@@tristanturner9239 Why did it bother you, no judgement?

@Joe Fanik so of it is just personal preference but there’s a few reasons. 1. I didn’t feel like the color fit especially since the hair doesn’t match 2. That mascara though 🤣 3. I feel like it should have been more “ape” like I understand the whole aversion to the giant forms and trying to condense it down but I still think more fur should have been added in certain places maybe something with the teeth or having more ape like feet. With it all mixed together I dunno I just kinda felt like an edge lord in a bad furry costume

The only real problems I could find with this is the mofuba is out of place and Goku wouldn't really call himself a bastard

@@christopherford39 but he says bastard like, to every enemy he’s fought at least once

@@basimali619 yeah he calls his enemies bastards never his friends and I doubt he would call a good version of himself a bastard

@@christopherford39 by enemy I mean opponents. The gokus maybe good, but they are opponents to each other and goku saying bastard can be taken as “he’s very skilled”

He did downplay manga Goku heavily. His base is way beyond multi universal even in the manga where he didn’t absorb SSG

Not really personalitys, dont really see both gokus calling each other ba

And manga goku kept talking about how much stronger blue is compared to gt goku

@@shank6432 but it is tho, ssjb is by far better in terms of strength however isn't nearly as stamina efficient as ssj4

@@bakajpriv Japanese goku curses more then what he did here both versions

@@shank6432 "kisama" in Japanese is kinda like calling someone a bastard. Goku uses that term a lot when he's fighting.

More like, Goku's

How many transformations do you want Goku: Yes Freiza:No And thats how ssj4 goku got put up against golden Freiza

Hmmm...so which power would you prefer? Power achieved by tapping into your most primal instincts, or power achieved through extreme control? Personally I'd prefer the former first, that way it gives me the possibility of harnessing, honing, and eventually perfecting my control over said power. If I had to pick one though I'd choose the latter because I would know my power like nothing else and I can push myself further than losing my mind and going feral...though that mostly goes with my style of fighting, perfecting what you know and taking control of as many different strategies as possible.

Its over 9000

Didn't predict it he went with his own stoey and super atarted taking notes

@@yves_santa7 Calm down Party Pooper

@@user-vs9ds3dc2y if anything it’s a compliment

Gt Goku is crazy experienced compared to super Goku which is a fun touch, a bit of gt in super could go along way showing skill can outmatch power if used right and not insanely overwhelming power. Also dragon ball AF is another broken version of Goku. We seriously should just have someone take over dragon ball other than toryiama so that they can do a multiverse thing where they confirm the destroyed universes where some of the most popular fan universes or something

@@yves_santa7 pretty sure akira doesn’t even know this video exists

Kai Crowley ok

Man this is soooooo much Goku from abridged

Tbh, ssjg is technically a god

Goku is fused with the dragon balls and can absorb the energy of haikai or Use the power to make him immune to haikai or any attack (The only reason he can do this is because he is apart of the db fanshise and has similar laws and power to the series)

@@kenkaneki5108 explain

that basically true right off the bat

Damn spitting facts

@@rodokuzelokuda717 or zamasu (he hasn't seen him yet)

True true

He predicted the manga outcome lmao. Roshi legit tells Goku to focus less on power and more on skill, then Goku focuses and hits UI Omen

That actually wouldn't be bad at all, he is more mature and probably can wish him back to full health since goku is part shenron, although what I just said was complete nonsense but it could be true

Cute. I ship it.

I don t think he was able to stand up after the fight

@Juicebox Industries Fine. I'll go back to Trunks and Goten, then.

@@monarchberry1107 that's worse.

Honestly this was heavily biased to GT Goku, considering he's just as stupid as Super Goku and would be at SSJ4 by the time Super went 3

@@hachi7692 Absolutely untrue. GT Goku is way more mature and intelligent than Super Goku, and a lot of people can agree with me

@@MrVibe-tx4rn If this was Anime Goku he'd dominate. Although both versions are stupid, manga goku and anime goku. However it is true that the Manga goku is the most arrogant.

@@MrVibe-tx4rn GT Goku wouldn't pull up with a speech about "Saiyans imitating gods," Plus we're talking about the guy who spent 10 minutes from the episode running from a dragon instead of just powering up and fighting like we all know he can

*saiyan

No man, even with the tail, Babi just blitz Goku ssj3, rewatch this part of gt.

The tail just help unlock the true mastery of the ssj form, it doesn't give any power boost.

That’s where ssj4 came in

The tail is a little boost and coordination but he's still getting one shotted don't get it twisted

​@@batguy39 no he isn't

So few people realize this, the win could've been anyone's game but DBS goku got too cocky relying on raw power to win

@@anriko7041 I agree

Even if he’s wasting more power, Super Goku should still have won. Why would Super Goku run out of stamina and power when the smallest fraction of Super Goku’s energy reserves is all that is needed to destroy GT Goku?

@@phoebusapollo8365 when you say that your making the same mistake as super goku In the video and underestimating a goku who may be weaker but is far more experienced and has leagues better endurance on his strongest form plus the buffs

@@thenewbee5850 I’m not sure you understand. The comparison between Super Goku and GT Goku isn’t “Super Goku 3x as powerful but 1/2 the stamina as GT Goku.” The comparison is “Super Goku 50-100 Million times as powerful with *maybe* 1/2 the stamina.” I don’t think you understand the gap in power between them. Just by getting the God form, Super Goku applied a ~29 million multiplier to his existing power at the end of the Buu saga. And that is before all the training arcs, power growth, new forms. Before the x50 multiplier that Super Saiyan Blue would apply to that existing God form multiplier. Even if you get *really* generous to GT Goku, give him the power of Buu saga ssj3 in his base form, even if you went so far as to say he has 10 times that in his base form, even if you say the ssj4 multiplier is 1000 times ssj3, hell, you can pretty much talk out of your ass and give him a ssj4 multiplier of x1 million on top of ssj3. Super Goku will still need less than 1% of his power to vaporize GT goku. *That* is the extent of the gap between them. At that point, does endurance really matter? Does experience? Does buffs? If you’re dozens of millions of times more powerful, dozens of millions of times stronger, dozens of millions of times more durable, dozens of millions of times faster. At what point would you run out of energy if it takes less than 1% of your reserves to vaporize your enemy? At what point would you waste energy if by using 10% of your speed you’re thousands of times faster and all your ki blasts and punches land? At what point would a “fight smarter and use endurance” work if the gap is that large? I’m not saying endurance and strategy are worthless, but against a gap millions times wide, does it matter? Especially when opponent A can one shot the other in the time it takes the opponent B’s brain cells to move a command from one synapse to the other?

They are actual writers, that's why.

@@magentapurpleyap5566 Wait, really? For what?

Physically weaker but Super Goku got to SSJ3 before GT Goku even got to SSJ

@@thek2despot426 Because they can think.

@@Fliss1 Super Goku spent more time on his god forms. His base should be Super saiyan god level...so idk

ᴢᴇxʏʀ dammit I thought Goku was going to win

damn it. You ruined everything.

You didnt saw the video Goku won

Oh my God you ruined the video bro

Yall blind it was so obvious to understand that goku wins.

Too bad we'll never see SSJ4 in canon.

Don't mean squat? Tf lol if this was a villian super goku would have ended it faster then future trunks. He was obviously having fun since it was another goku. Power overcomes your acceptance of whatever. just look at roshi vs jiren for example roshi is a master of his mind with years of wisdom, experience ect. Your point which is just ass out wrong. And is the stupidest thing I've heard all day comparing these two.

@@jayxcv5409 Frieza, Copy Vegeta and Goku Black: Are you sure about that

@@christopherford39 It depends. It's mostly just the story that way. But Frieza on namek he easily tried his best. Tried with Android 19. Tried to take out Perfect Cell. Goku is different compared to vegeta. He tries to see and bring the good out in people and help them. That's why he told frieza to go home in rof. Questioned Moro. Questioned black. Just depends bro.

@@jayxcv5409 "If this aas a villain super goku would have ended it faster than future trunks." The fact you said that and STILL ignored the fact Goku, or Vegeta for that matter, didn't just kill Black outright the moment he came back into the past is astonishing.

The power levels here isn’t good...but the animation is so good

@@rebel277 nah i think the power level here is fine

g.t.n lastwish GT goku in ssj shouldn’t of been able to do that to super ssj3 goku

Sasuke Uchiha JR *cough* tail= mastery of ssj forms

@@rebel277 also this gt goku is older so he has more power since all of that training and ssj4 in this animation is weaker in ssjb but gokus base power makes him strong enough to fight ssjb

Man, do we share the same body or smth? cause that's EXCACTLY HOW I FELT-

It was but now it's time to crash the delusions 🗿

it is still the hype in my heart

Still would have gotten his ass kicked

No, he wouldnt fair as well, but the gap wouldnt be that wide either. Hes weaker but with much higher battle IQ.

To be fair if we used scaling super goku should have a Base form over gt goku

Yeah serious moments of Goku are the best

Brody Upton *Are you sure about that? GT Goku is 10 years after the End of Z, which super hasn't even reached yet. I don't think he stopped training.*

Lord Omega different timelines, *Are you sure about that*”. Super goku in base with less than 1 % can body all of gt no doubt

@@Beggingforsubscribersandnovide *Anime Goku. Some people also referred to the manga as Super. We don't want them to get the wrong idea now, do we?

@Gerald Tyler not really just that gt goku is more of a refined warrior than super goku. Gt goku doesn't rely on his forms but his experiences, techniques and brain. Though i'm kinda gonna admit though i think super goku is stronger than gt goku. Super goku is superior in terms of raw power but gt goku is superior in terms of techniques and brain. Think of it like gt goku is basically a very refined warrior who relies on his skills not his forms.

@Gerald Tyler yeah like i said... Super Goku's not powerful than Gt Goku please read carefully let me highlight what i said for you "Super goku is stronger than Gt Goku". Ok now were good also what i'm saying is Gt Goku is like a more of a refined warrior than Super Goku. Super Goku more relies on his form if you read the manga you'll know of it that he's reliant on his forms. He only learned to not rely on his form when he fought jiren literally that was the time when he really learned it.

@Gerald Tyler welp like i said super goku is stronger than gt goku i already know that gt goku would lose to super goku cause it's obvious. Though i wouldn't say gt goku would easily lose just like a snap of a finger to super goku because it's like your saying that gt goku is actually weaker than krillin which is not. Krillin in a spar match was somehow able to keep up with goku in his ssj state by using his brain. What more is gt goku? like i said gt goku is basically a refined warrior unlike super goku but with just brute strength of super goku he can easily beat gt goku like literally ssbkk x 20 can beat gt goku easily.

Newfound respect 😂😂

No

If he really wanted to take on God's he doesn't have to copy the gods power he could just find the dragon balls and wish his own tail back to go ssj4 and apply the principles of God ki to his forms like xeno Goku and even ultra instinct Goku could be stronger

agorapng Cept Goku would never...say that?

@@TheShockVox depends on the Goku.

Shock Vox gt goku is more experienced, and a bit more mature from what ive seen

@@Elenwood3 cause he's older

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Agree

Super Goku fights hard, but GT Goku fights smart.

I agree. actually, super rely so much in increase power, and power levels got messed because of that, that only a god or angel can hold goku. Where is the fighting stiles? The techniques, exploring the weaker points on enemy? Thats why i got so disappointed wif dragon ball super

I guess it makes more sense tho since GT Goku would be older and have quite a bit more knowledge then Super Goku. GT may not be as powerful as Super, but he has the better fighting strategy overall.

Its nice cuz Super is after Buu Saga and GT would be after that.

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Unfortunately none of these foolish fanboys can understand the true meaning of this fight

@@wellingtonafonsodecarvalho9842 Exactly

Don't forget that, unlike what the video says, no one actually ever states that they can feel Gogeta SSJ4's power. They just say he's strong because he's kicking Omega's shit in. It's entirely possible, if likely, that SSJ4 Gogeta is actually SSG4 Gogeta.

@@bluephoenixguy1094 yup but of course there will come those who would say otherwise

@@bluephoenixguy1094 actually they have to have 5 sayians pour their energy into one Saiyan at time There were 4 saiyans there it has to be all at once or it won't work

This comment is just gonna get a lot of likes because people won't consider actually fact checking Ssj4 gogeta is not SSG that's a fact

Lancorve the fifth saiyan is vegeta while fused with goku

@@blipwave5852 Unacttrative?

@@covertfro5774 yeah babbyy ;)

@@blipwave5852 that's the reason people hate gt

Even if GT was somewhat a pile of shit (it really wasn't, I'm overstating this) you can still see the Cherry on top that is the design of SSJ4 Goku.

@@blipwave5852 cuz he got nerfed so bad he really could have beaten most of the enemies in his adult look

*taught Sorry lol

@Heavy D As he was a baby he had a higher power than teen goku

@Heavy D yes just because DBS Goku was foolish to believe that he could handle his transformation for a long period of time. It terms of power SSGSS overwhelms SSJ4 no doubt, but the big catch ... It drains the user's energy/stamina 2x or 3x faster than SSJ4 does. So, it's either finish it fast or be a fool and lose the battle as you lost your transformation (just likewhat DBS Goku did).

Heavy D no baby broly was way stronger than baby vegeta wym

@@allshipper2158 Yeah but didn't Broly moped the floor with them in his semi-ssj4 state? They even analysed in the movie what the form does (The power of a great ape with the speed of a super saiyan) Maybe Akira Toriyama didn't have the copyrights to use the ssj4 art from GT so he re-made his own , just like Broly...

Not gonna lie, that's how i tought SSG work in GT...

caleb brown I know this comment is from 5 months ago: you don't have to be SSjGod in order to be OP and plus Gogeta has his own hair and fur color for SSj4 just like SSj4 Vegeta not counting Heroes as it abandons that so no

Maybe if vegeta was pure hearted it would work

@@75JUNAKI SS4 Vegito doesn't have red hair.

huh, pulled an Asuka huh?

Reminds me on Dragon Ball VS Dream Match of Young Jijii. It is probably the only What If battle fan manga that I consider good, because it enhances the story in Super (anime) and has GT Goku use his experience to his advantage to fight Black.

Andres Velez he wouldn't need to now that today confirmed ss4 as the stronger form regardless of all his power up with EP 5, now ultra instinct that's something I'd like to see and manga ultra instinct since the anime one is weak.

@@blankblank1257 You're so dumb no its not DBH is not cannon

Is because GT Goku has more fighting knowledge than Manga Goku (even anime goku). I know many people's will say- "Ah but both anime and manga Goku are also smart. In the manga Goku use both God and blue to be able to counter Hit time skip, in the anime he have kaioken on top of blue because blue have proper ki control, etc" One. The manga did a better strategy than the anime version. Kaioken would have instantly killed Goku of how it been so long he use the technique and successful pull it off.... Well not likely, he did successful pull it off but it pretty much have him stress and pain in the body after the battle with hit 2. Hit in the manga is weaker than the anime version. Even hit in the anime even stated that he is still keeping in improving 3. Super Goku relies more on his transformation when it comes in fighting stronger opponent than making strateg, it depends. He does finds weakness in his enemies to try to counter and explore it even more. But forgetting that when using blue is a real problem of how blue is really a strong form that drain a lot of stamina and energy even whis stated it, he can only use blue a few time in a day. GT Goku trained for 10 years and have developed a smart mind when it comes to fighting. In the Zamasu Arc (manga) when he finally achieved perfect blue but the power was too much to keep it inside that the energy was licking out of him. I extremely love this fight. It explore of how both Goku's are when it comes to battle, using true information than headcanon, logical sense when they are fighting and both having their own methods when it comes to a fight Also that moment when GT Goku got serious... Loved that part so much

Nahhh SSJ4 Won hahahahaa SSB LOST

No, super goku is WAY more powerful

Sonflagen Hobbs that’s what he said.

But I emphasized the more powerful

I dont get it where did it say that Goku gt can control his stamina.

@@username-ew1de Goku gt is way older than super goku and also ssj4 is Saiyan's own ssj ape transformation that's why.... also because he is goku!!!!!!

Inmate?

Imitate*

That sounds like something Vegeta would say

That quote is fake news. S!Goku is not imitating anything, he surpassed Gods.

@@WadetheBadger He would still technically be imitating gods since he isn't one lol

No one forgot, it's just because it's non-canon, so no one cares to talk about it.

@@CS1TR7 wait really!?!?

#Releasetheryukencut

@@aladar1179 No that's not true

@@magentapurpleyap5566 #Dragonfist

hes always had it, but since super idk why they made goku a dumbass

@@poetsvendetta it's because of the writers

Well Super Goku is Actually Smart But Mostly In Combat

The Goku of this video is the Super Goku of the manga.

Super Goku in the manga is more smart but Super Goku in the anime is clearly dumb

And absorbed the dragon balls

And then got another power boost when he was turned to an adult

And still struggled to lift a building as an SSJ4 and has no universal feat, but your bias is none of my business!

@@nailtoolofamusement I'd put ssj4 at multi galaxy level tbh. I see ssj4 at about 10 or 15 percent of ssjg which seems fair all things considered. But the whole not being able to lift a building thing is about as bs as ssjb goku being one shot by a laser even tho he's comfortably a universe level fighter

@@metronome7799 Can't agree on the second part, SSJ4 wasn't holding back while trying to lift that, goku powered himself down, thus leaving himself defenseless. Unless we want to say that SSJ4 was holding back as well there, of course, but i wouldn't really see why. I can agree on the first part tho, might be above the standard galaxy tier.

On god. Ssjblue goku defeated ssj4 goku in manga lol

It's like everyone comparing super anime and less than 10% is about manga super

Spartacus LOL, i forgot that on the manga goku doesnt stack kaipken on blue

@@darneillburgess3452 What Manga are you speaking off?

@@silverwar779 The Dbs manga

Obvious? What do you mean by that...

Actually I tought Goku would win:/ dang it!

if only goku was stronger than goku then goku would be able to beat goku while goku was getting more tired than goku so goku goku goku goku........... .....welp..... that's one of my "me"s gone...😓😓

T Jeffery carrot cake clapped them both

T Jeffery why u gotta spoil it

funny thing is SSG is still stronger than SS3, but DBS Goku decide to jump to Blue.

Santiago Cando when i saw that i thought goku was goin to beat gt goku

Daimyen Wilson remember that dbs goku was completely out of stamina and with no spirit Bomb, time to recover or Frieza/Vegeta energy to re-power him. I’m surprised that he actually managed to sustain it a couple of seconds

Nearly cried from it

All im going to say is super saiyan 5

Yeah I thought there was going to be a sequel.

nobody; they would eat all the food in the universe before the end of the contest.

Clearly Goku

TheOzForce in my opinion Goku would win

Both

Ssj4, man ate a whole dragonball

Full power super saiyan 4 is less canon than gt. Even then couldn’t goku just get universal blue?

I presume you mean the form of Blue that has the Universe Tree’s power absorbed. In which case, yes Super Goku would dominate this fight. However, this is the Dragon Ball Super Manga version of Son Goku, so he has no connection to Super Dragon Ball Heroes lore. At this point in the story, Perfected Blue is the best he can do. Super Full Power Saiyan 4 (AKA Full Power Super Saiyan 4) is achieved when four other Saiyans give Goku their “Saiya power” as it’s called in the sub of the show. Goku first achieves this form in Episode 38 of GT, and it returns later against the One-Star Dragon. This GT Goku is from the end of GT, and the Full Power form had appeared twice before then, so it is canon to GT, no matter how you dice it. Even Dokkan Battle acknowledges the form.

Being able to sustain a form with barely any energy loss is not equal to taking hits from strong fighters. Stamina does not equal defense.

​@@elijahchaney7715the variant of Goku in Dragon ball heroes is different from super One of the variant of Goku in Dragon Ball Heroes Goku that you are referring to is CC Goku the other one,Xeno Goku is comparable to CC Goku in power Dragon ball Super is Super Goku

​@@gamercentral2417Full Power Super Saiyan 4 is in GT tho

DBS GOKU: super Saiyan God is unbeatable GT GOKU: LOL dragon fist

Right

It could, but it wasn't since they could feel his ki. Maybe it was a different kind of god.

All Shipper maybe it was different because vegeta combined his power with goku’s, through fusion, rather than giving it to him in the ritual

@@arcticpangolin3090 yeah you are right.

This makes me think not related to this one: If Goku had Ultra Instinct and if Vegeta fused with him would Vegeta unlock the potential for Ultra Instinct as well or not really?

Hell yeah

That's another person who understood the situation perfectly

I would say stamina wouldn't matter in a contest of power and speed if the person you're combating is way stronger and way faster than you. Besides super Saiyan 4 also runs on stamina/energy And its not like super goku has low stamina reserved either since he can fight in blue for a while anyway with the biggest weakness of blue being he can't transform multiple times in succession or stay at maximum power the longer he stays in the regular blue form he circumvents those weaknesses by completing super Saiyan blue anyway so it's not like he doesn't also have his fair share of wisdom either since both anime and manga Goku are strategic geniuses plus T.O.P/Moro goku can stack perfect blue with the kaioken (not for very long mind you) for an even bigger boost in power and speed GT Goku would be dead before he even would register what was going on 100 year time skip Goku is featless so we don't even know how powerful he is and putting him in versus debates is useless All that we know is that he can appear and disappear at will (and probably has some fourth wall awareness)

@@AruAnimations that's Goku at the end of GT, probably receiving another zenkai after almost being killed by Omega shenron, he absorbed the dragon balls and received another power boost when becoming a adult again, and it's base power is way stronger than super's base power While that's super before TOP, it's also manga super, he doesn't have SSB kaioken or ultra instinct (yet), and he also didn't absorbed SSG in the manga, so he is WAY weaker that his anime counterpart, I think that fight was fair

@@kue5053 eogt adult goku is featless so you can't put his base power anywhere and you can clearly see this is post change invincible Goku in the animation not after he absorbed the dragon balls There wasn't any zenkai either because of the fact saiyans have to fully recover from near death to get one not just being near death and being able to move

Of course gt goku is like 10 years older then super

imagine if they fused😂

@@manuelgutierrez9675 Their fused name would just be Goku lol

Bhavik Soma super goku has a bit of smarts from the bomb also I think goku from super got a lot stronger in mind with MUI

10 years of wisdom showing in this battle, GT Goku learned to overcome his ego

Yup. DBS Goku may hold more power, but GT Goku hold more experience, statergy, and less stamina draining

How do you sound ? Gt goku trained for 5 years and another 10 years he trained longer then super goku and ssj4 has more ki control then ssjb because goku in ssj4 can hold the form when he is getting beat to death and when ssb get beat go back to base and Supressed blue goku couldn't beat krillin and gohan was on par with a ssb and 17 made ssb have a hard time and he got 1 shotted by a laser and Ray gun and he got beat by girls who never trained also broly

@@Zion5G While most of these things are true, DBS Broly is said to be far, far stronger than his Dragon ball z counterpart. If GT Goku were to fight him, he would have lost to his wrath form.

@@Zion5G Also that spelling tho.

@@emperorcooler6247 no he wouldnt goku is the main character and ssj4 beat broly

The problem is, SSG and SSGSS can't be sensed by non-gods. SSJ4 would be unable to tell if Super Goku had energy or not. He'd lose in one blow and that would be that. Also, I love how everyone is making up this thing were Blue takes this huge toll on the body when Ressurection of F and The anime have stated like five times it is the most energy efficient form of SSJ period.

@@WadetheBadger That... wasn't the point of my comment. My comment wasn't GT > Super. It was me just saying that I liked how the video makes the viewers want to support the underdog.

@@WadetheBadger>The anime Anime DBS is a lot different from Manga DBS. Also, the Stamina Drain is refering to Super Saiyan Blue Complete, which is a Manga exclusive form (Manga DBS Goku is also MUCH weaker than Anime DBS Goku).

@@WadetheBadger this is manga goku, ssb has huge drain on their stamina, its clearly stated during vegeta vs goku black fight that remaining in blue is too stamina draining so vegeta stays in god form and swaps.back and forth to blue to save energy.

@@WadetheBadger Manga Goku does have extreme energy drain, the reason Vegeta lost to hit as stated in the manga was because of the energy drain of blue. We joke about SSJ3 being useless but Blue has the exact same problem in the manga.

Probably couldn't tell if it was a form or not. I mean. The anime and manga both went off just feeling the heat, eyes amd seeing the movements of ui. He had his eyes closed and wasn't moving. Also the landscape looked pretty hot by itself

Hi rus bro. U to like db are u?

Hi. Of course i do. It's the most logical anime about fighting imho (expecially DB and DBZ seasons)

Idk i think u right becose u rly see how the power up(like cell from city to island and from island to planet and from planet to galaxy) . Also,u to think about not use rus becose eng is gonna meme us?

the reason he didnt care was because he knew he had won even if goku attained the UI state the stamina drain is WORSE than perfect blue so there was no way he was throwing even a punch at that point it was pure determination and his grasp on why he lost that allowed super goku to stand like that

Facts

Nah at the end he said he was relying on his form he said it barley had any drawbacks

I mean before that where do super goku transformed more times than he should have where as gt Goku stayed as a super Saiyan 1 against super Saiyan 3 db super goku and even forced him into that godly state

Nathaniel Lookabill true but he was relying on transformations when he turned ss3 and when at the end

@@theworldsgreatestspyspysdo2004 yeah. GT Goku was really something else in this one and I have a whole newfound love for ssj4 haha

Still doesnt make sense at all In super all saiyans gave their power to goku,while gt goku only got 4 saiyans and combined with vegeta,he combined his power,not took vegeta power

Bro you froget that goku fused with Vegeta. Fusion is just another from of giving someone more ki energy but in a exponential way. So yes the theory dose makes sense. Don't froget fusion is 2 body with 2 ki combined to one being where the the power gets added to a larger pool

@@hypernel1798 they are combining their ki,vegeta didnt give his power to him,besides gomu needed to supress because thats how the fusion dsnce works,they need to be equal,and vegeta in gt didnt train as much as goku,so goku needed to lowwr his power to be even with vegeta

@@godspeedforce9371 but still combined ki with fusion adds more power. Also ki is not Just how much power you have it's also go strong your soul is. Goku and Vegeta fused their ki, body and soul into one , creating a new begin. So even if Vegeta only combined 50% of is power in fusion it's stil a lot. Don't forget how stupid OP fusion is in the dragon ball verse.

@@hypernel1798 like i said,goku needed to supress himself,and gohan was still able to sense gogeta ki,while when super goku went ssg,they couldnt sense his ki,the only reason why gogeta hair is red was because he was in his limit breaker form

BlueRaider#5 Johns not even 2 minutes

dbzgts _supreme I just didn’t like that they only used super Saipan 4 and blue in the anime. In this animation, I like how both gokus kept evolving throughout the fight

well to be fair the sdbh version was super goku vs xeno goku xeno goku and gt goku are two different people since xeno goku knows and tapped into the god ki while fighting before

King_Ace yeah but it would be cool to see a ssj3 xeno goku

That fight was more of a misunderstanding, this fight, however, is an actual D-D-D-D-D-D-DUEL.

wtf its been only a year since hes uploaded

explain idiot@Legendary Goku

@@sabrina2368 More Androids

Tfs

It's what defended him from being a lazy 🐵 design like bruno mars and the lazy song

@@redpikmin017 ???

Red Pikmin 01 yea lazy design compared to Super saiyan blue?

@@alexzanderc7366 a god compared to a monkey, might as well put him in Bruno mars' music video wearing a monkey mask and eating a banana

@@redpikmin017 But I'm talking about design not power level

Vegeta would win

SiNKarnage I don't know. Vegeta would put a pretty decent fight against Vegeta 🤔

Manga goku

@@Prince-rh4md Hell no The Prince of all Saiyans can whoop anyone's ass even Against The Prince of all Saiyans

Goofy idk... It’s a fun concept but Blue Vegeta is stronger than Blue goku (not Kaioken goku tho) , and it’s safe to say that GT vegeta is weaker than Gt Goku since he doesnt have the control of ssj3 and barely had unlocked ssj4