In all my years of watching alt-hist content, this may be one of the most creative and in-depth scenarios I've ever seen. I've never considered how different things would be with a different executive system ratified in the ConCon, much less what presidencies would result from this system. Very creative of you, and obviously high effort. Well done!
I've read an essay in "What if the American Political System Were Different?" that suggests if Giuseppe Zangara had succeeded in assassinating FDR in 1933 and if Carl Weiss had failed to assassinate Huey Long in 1935, Long could have split the Democrat vote in the 1936 presidential election. And should he have defeated John Nance Garner (D) and Alf Landon (R), a new "Populist" party could have taken hold in the United States. Obviously not as radical a change as restructuring the Constitution, but it does still result in more than two parties. Excellent video! Big fan of the channel and can't wait to see you grow into one of the juggernauts of the alternate history genre.
Excellent, mind stretching and visually impressive. The maps are an impressive combination of art, informed imagination, and social science. Nice work!
How this scenario played out, I think the 2024 election would be one of deep division and probably produced a potential non-functional government. Without the far-right dictatorships being our enemies in ww2, and the conservative Germans instead of the leftist Russians in the Cold War, I suspect radical left and right wing ideology would be even more popular. I think we would definitely have a 3 party competition between the: -left union of social democrats, socialists, and communists -Center right corporate liberals and moderate conservatives -Authoritarian reactionaries (Sounds like France lol)
This video is really good! I like how fluently you create these alternate history timelines, and add bits of lore on other parts of the world. Keep it up with your work! 👍 For this video, specifically the modern day version, the socialist party sounds good but I think more variety of the left wing would be better. Maybe there’s a more libertarian faction of socialists, either through their own party or part of the socialist party or a faction of the freedom party.
Largest 2 parties in Canada and Britain make up 2/3 of the vote for each, so third parties are 10x bigger in those countries than US. In any case there are presidential countries like France and Brazil which had large third parties
2 of the last 4 British and Canadian elections didn't have a majority of one party. I like the term 'two and a half party system ' because it's two big parties and a bunch of tiny ones that sometimes break the tie.
India is basically a one party state at this point due how popular BJP is how incredibly weak the opposition has gotten The INC really don't stand a chance anymore and it's really parties which control states that make a say (INC does too but the main one is Karnataka) The main opposition to BJP is on the regional level with the currupt ganga valley parties, the regionalist southern parties (odisha and bengal are both)
At a surface level two parties exchange power, usually with overall majorities in Britain. But there were coalitions or pacts in the late 70s, between 2010 - 15 and again in 2017-19. The SNP holds 40 odd seats, Northern Ireland has its own party system, and the Lib Dems have regularly had up to a quarter of the vote. Even without winning many seats parties have had influence, it was UKIP getting 14% in 2015 that drove Brexit.
Besides the UK and Canada don't have a powerful president like in France. The prime minister is the holder of the second-highest office in France, after the president of France. If the British election system were based on proportional representation, the Liberal Democrats would be far more important challenger for Conservatives and Labour Party in a political centre. A 20 % of votes don't give usually a 20 % of parliament seats in the nationwide level.
the main reason america has a 2 party system is actually because of the primaries, if they didn't exist then factionalism would be way less strong & someone like bernie sanders would just make their own party rather than try to change the democratic party also the fact that british & canadian districts are way smaller helps 3rd parties & independent candidates campaign
3:25 there's no maybe here. CGPGrey (here on yt) and a host of other people in all kinds of formats explained this in detail long ago; I learned the stuff in school in the 1990ies. It's the first-past-the-post voting system. Period.
I actually do think some Presidents would be able to become American Prime Minsters, especially in the modern era as having a charismatic party leader for the country would be needed to win an election. With our Speakers of the House looking more like a whip. Not to mention their would likely be way more congressional districts than our timeline do to population increase and congress being more important in general. My guess would be about 750-800 which is about the E.U parliament size. But it can easily go up to a thousand if needed.
I might be biases bc im latino but but did the US start a war in mexico in 1852 surely there must've a cassuss beli, also did the goldrush happen, im sure people from all around would be moving in by 1852 and gotten accustomed to life there. How did this affect the oregon dispute. Bc as much as i hate him Polk did push things along. Its like you said if america were like Canada the civil war may not happened but slavery lasting longer. However, here if the US hadn't justified against Mexico when it did the war wouldn't have happened (maybe), 1 tyer didn't admit it last minute, 2 maybe mexico reannexed it, 3 mexico recognized texas on condition of interpretation of the border and agreement to remain a nuetral buffer (which was going to happen but didn't due to Tyler's annexation),4 the British public and government don't stand for a war for slavery. Point is i don't think things are inevitable
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