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What if America had MORE PARTIES and a PRIME MINISTER too? (Alternate History) 

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@harrisondansie9542
@harrisondansie9542 Год назад
In all my years of watching alt-hist content, this may be one of the most creative and in-depth scenarios I've ever seen. I've never considered how different things would be with a different executive system ratified in the ConCon, much less what presidencies would result from this system. Very creative of you, and obviously high effort. Well done!
@wildviper
@wildviper Год назад
Thanks!
@samabhistory
@samabhistory Год назад
Man your channel is EXTREMELY underrated. I’m not joking
@TheEmperorYTP
@TheEmperorYTP Год назад
I've read an essay in "What if the American Political System Were Different?" that suggests if Giuseppe Zangara had succeeded in assassinating FDR in 1933 and if Carl Weiss had failed to assassinate Huey Long in 1935, Long could have split the Democrat vote in the 1936 presidential election. And should he have defeated John Nance Garner (D) and Alf Landon (R), a new "Populist" party could have taken hold in the United States. Obviously not as radical a change as restructuring the Constitution, but it does still result in more than two parties. Excellent video! Big fan of the channel and can't wait to see you grow into one of the juggernauts of the alternate history genre.
@wildviper
@wildviper Год назад
Thanks Emperor! I’ll check out that essay
@joecat21
@joecat21 Год назад
Excellent, mind stretching and visually impressive. The maps are an impressive combination of art, informed imagination, and social science. Nice work!
@bobjenkins884
@bobjenkins884 3 месяца назад
How this scenario played out, I think the 2024 election would be one of deep division and probably produced a potential non-functional government. Without the far-right dictatorships being our enemies in ww2, and the conservative Germans instead of the leftist Russians in the Cold War, I suspect radical left and right wing ideology would be even more popular. I think we would definitely have a 3 party competition between the: -left union of social democrats, socialists, and communists -Center right corporate liberals and moderate conservatives -Authoritarian reactionaries (Sounds like France lol)
@kaazmire5358
@kaazmire5358 Год назад
This video is really good! I like how fluently you create these alternate history timelines, and add bits of lore on other parts of the world. Keep it up with your work! 👍 For this video, specifically the modern day version, the socialist party sounds good but I think more variety of the left wing would be better. Maybe there’s a more libertarian faction of socialists, either through their own party or part of the socialist party or a faction of the freedom party.
@Bob-fh4ht
@Bob-fh4ht Год назад
What if america deez nuts is one of the most horrifying thing imaginable to think about, nice scenario
@waltercommunitycollege1615
@waltercommunitycollege1615 Год назад
Having a prime minister doesn't mean several parties. Canada and the UK are two party states like the US with very little third party representation.
@wildviper
@wildviper Год назад
Largest 2 parties in Canada and Britain make up 2/3 of the vote for each, so third parties are 10x bigger in those countries than US. In any case there are presidential countries like France and Brazil which had large third parties
@catmonarchist8920
@catmonarchist8920 Год назад
2 of the last 4 British and Canadian elections didn't have a majority of one party. I like the term 'two and a half party system ' because it's two big parties and a bunch of tiny ones that sometimes break the tie.
@Kokila_Parag_Modi
@Kokila_Parag_Modi Год назад
India is basically a one party state at this point due how popular BJP is how incredibly weak the opposition has gotten The INC really don't stand a chance anymore and it's really parties which control states that make a say (INC does too but the main one is Karnataka) The main opposition to BJP is on the regional level with the currupt ganga valley parties, the regionalist southern parties (odisha and bengal are both)
@leehallam9365
@leehallam9365 9 месяцев назад
At a surface level two parties exchange power, usually with overall majorities in Britain. But there were coalitions or pacts in the late 70s, between 2010 - 15 and again in 2017-19. The SNP holds 40 odd seats, Northern Ireland has its own party system, and the Lib Dems have regularly had up to a quarter of the vote. Even without winning many seats parties have had influence, it was UKIP getting 14% in 2015 that drove Brexit.
@lucone2937
@lucone2937 9 месяцев назад
Besides the UK and Canada don't have a powerful president like in France. The prime minister is the holder of the second-highest office in France, after the president of France. If the British election system were based on proportional representation, the Liberal Democrats would be far more important challenger for Conservatives and Labour Party in a political centre. A 20 % of votes don't give usually a 20 % of parliament seats in the nationwide level.
@lingosak1952
@lingosak1952 9 месяцев назад
i will vote for da progs also why are all the presidents assassinated lol
@wildviper
@wildviper 9 месяцев назад
I think the assassinations are about as common as those in real life
@waltercommunitycollege1615
@waltercommunitycollege1615 Год назад
What if Appalachia became a great power
@SamtheEpic33
@SamtheEpic33 Год назад
Great video!
@cvmpro1497
@cvmpro1497 Год назад
Wow this is really good! Next stop 1k!
@Mangoonistgamer12344
@Mangoonistgamer12344 Год назад
Hello cooper
@carlose4314
@carlose4314 9 месяцев назад
France has a prime minister as the head of government, and a president as the head of state.
@wildviper
@wildviper 9 месяцев назад
True
@bronekjeszczeniezdechchwaakrl
@bronekjeszczeniezdechchwaakrl 5 месяцев назад
not ryly, bouth of them are equal and run government togeder @@wildviper
@zironthegamer
@zironthegamer Год назад
Could you do a video on what if warlord era of China lasted into the modern era?
@alphagamer9505
@alphagamer9505 8 месяцев назад
First time I see a scenario where Germany wins both wws but collapses in the early 2000s,interesting scenario
@LydiaMoMydia
@LydiaMoMydia 5 месяцев назад
the main reason america has a 2 party system is actually because of the primaries, if they didn't exist then factionalism would be way less strong & someone like bernie sanders would just make their own party rather than try to change the democratic party also the fact that british & canadian districts are way smaller helps 3rd parties & independent candidates campaign
@chsgrate5362
@chsgrate5362 11 месяцев назад
Why everyone is shot dead in this scenario?
@carlose4314
@carlose4314 9 месяцев назад
What if America had an uncapped house.
@wildviper
@wildviper 9 месяцев назад
Interesting idea. Maybe more parties in congress
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion Год назад
I have this scenario for you to think. What if the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah actually lasted 10 years?
@ajinkyatarodekar9099
@ajinkyatarodekar9099 Год назад
This is really a unique alt history scenario! I will be waiting how this project evolves further.
@hazptmedia
@hazptmedia 11 месяцев назад
You should have wayyy more subs
@wildviper
@wildviper 11 месяцев назад
Thank you
@hazptmedia
@hazptmedia 11 месяцев назад
@@wildviper no problem bro ahaha
@PolarisStar5
@PolarisStar5 4 месяца назад
The fact that the capital is named Columbia would probably mean SC’s capital would have a different name, maybe Santee or De Soto?
@loco4loco
@loco4loco Год назад
Came here from your Reddit post you gained a sub
@lyudmilaismayilova8937
@lyudmilaismayilova8937 7 дней назад
What happen to usa colonies in africa is they still part of usa or independent
@FriendofOnas
@FriendofOnas Год назад
Awesome, keep developing
@xperialinks
@xperialinks 2 месяца назад
Honestly I don’t think the US not being in WW1 would make the entente lose, furthermore, if they did lose, I doubt WW2 would have even happened.
@jordanalexander4331
@jordanalexander4331 4 месяца назад
I like the term prime minister better than president in this scenario.
@Enyavar1
@Enyavar1 Год назад
3:25 there's no maybe here. CGPGrey (here on yt) and a host of other people in all kinds of formats explained this in detail long ago; I learned the stuff in school in the 1990ies. It's the first-past-the-post voting system. Period.
@Enyavar1
@Enyavar1 Год назад
OMG, the details and maps of this timeline are overwhelming. SO GOOD!
@wildviper
@wildviper Год назад
Thank you!
@cm-jr9vt
@cm-jr9vt 7 месяцев назад
The foundig father definitely didn't fear elected monarchy as much
@scix8794
@scix8794 3 месяца назад
where did you get those government design figures from?
@wildviper
@wildviper 3 месяца назад
Those are from wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Convention_(United_States)
@scix8794
@scix8794 3 месяца назад
@@wildviper Thanks
@poigrestr
@poigrestr 9 месяцев назад
Vaush streams would be so fun🤤
@jacklazzaro9820
@jacklazzaro9820 4 месяца назад
1:34 source?
@Marylandbrony
@Marylandbrony 10 месяцев назад
I actually do think some Presidents would be able to become American Prime Minsters, especially in the modern era as having a charismatic party leader for the country would be needed to win an election. With our Speakers of the House looking more like a whip. Not to mention their would likely be way more congressional districts than our timeline do to population increase and congress being more important in general. My guess would be about 750-800 which is about the E.U parliament size. But it can easily go up to a thousand if needed.
@jordanalexander4331
@jordanalexander4331 3 месяца назад
I think it could be more like the Indian parliamentary system.
@therealnathnath154
@therealnathnath154 5 месяцев назад
16:34 no West Virginia? L+ratio
@rogeliovaldez6594
@rogeliovaldez6594 8 месяцев назад
I might be biases bc im latino but but did the US start a war in mexico in 1852 surely there must've a cassuss beli, also did the goldrush happen, im sure people from all around would be moving in by 1852 and gotten accustomed to life there. How did this affect the oregon dispute. Bc as much as i hate him Polk did push things along. Its like you said if america were like Canada the civil war may not happened but slavery lasting longer. However, here if the US hadn't justified against Mexico when it did the war wouldn't have happened (maybe), 1 tyer didn't admit it last minute, 2 maybe mexico reannexed it, 3 mexico recognized texas on condition of interpretation of the border and agreement to remain a nuetral buffer (which was going to happen but didn't due to Tyler's annexation),4 the British public and government don't stand for a war for slavery. Point is i don't think things are inevitable
@wildviper
@wildviper Год назад
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