What if Amuro Got the Alex Gundam During the OYW (part1) 

Aguille Delaz already decided to withdrawal when he hear kycilia killed gihren, so unless his ship was destroyed due to the increase in firepower from the Alex (doubtful) there would have been a power struggle between he and the other gihren supporters and the kycilia supporters (much like what happened on the origin version of events, but it would have happened after the withdrawal / possibly at axis). So then you have 2 possibilities. The remnant zeon forces fight each other so much that it prevents them from rebelling in 0083 and forming the titans, or someone comes out on top and a similar thing ends up happening. I think if they weakened themselves, there would still be pockets of resistance everywhere and the titans would still be formed, but maybe in a more benign version like londe bell, preventing jamitov et al from coming to power?

What if char got the completed zeong ?

I always imagined it playing out closely to the anime but I had Char surviving because of the surprise of the Zeongs cockpit. The difference being the Alex having a lack of a core block system leading to Amuro having a harder time escaping A Baoa Qu and possibly not surviving.

For a possible future scenario (or even maybe this one) "What if Sayla remained an active pilot post OYW" just imagine the interactions between Amuro, Her and this new Quattro guy during Zeta.

I think char would have lived, due to the head trick with the zeong as well as him realizing that dying then and there would leave "certain" things unfinished and he would retreat like in the anime. Amuro would probably give chase and possibly corner char, but I think sayla might get involved at that point, and things would roughly go the same way they did with char dealing with kcyllia, but with amuro and sayla going and helping the white base.

,...or finally got it legs.

3x faster zeong? easy char aznable win

@@victorlacas6649 it’s pretty funny how obsessed with speed Char was, as though the thrust wouldn’t burst his eyes and crush his organs

@@yemmohater279630 sustained Gs aren't much, really :P

If the Zeon was painted red, eurobeat would created the ost for that fight

Then there would e no Bright Slap memes to oppose Rick James and Batman memes.

I mean in the original series it was more Ryu that motivated Amuro from what I remember.

@Shadow Vulcanus Nah probably garma forces could have pull off destroying the white base when they arrived on earth

UC would not be the way it is. That bright slap changed the course of history forever.

@@wombosupreme6337 The slap heard 'round the world.

It's not so much he's a coward it's just he's practical and would like to live

The Zaku pilot, what happened to him? He’s fine, not a scratch on him, he and Lieutenant Mackenzie are talking things out with some kid as we speak.

@@krism.6598 Yeah no burger os harmed

it would ruin one of the best gundam animes we got lol

I like to think that the Gundam Valhalla was in indeed Canon...cuz Bernie, Chris and Al were happily there

I think it's time for Sunrise to make What if series, just like Marvel, non-canon, but a great idea for fans to know any other possible scenarios that didn't happen in the canon

Even non UC Timeline Protags got upgrades. Heero upgraded to Wing Zero, while Domon got the God (Burning) Gundam

@@scottprice4955 Exactly. 0080 is meant to explain why Amuro never got one during Mobile Suit Gundam.

Can’t really blame him cause despite how awful they performed in war in the pocket, the gm cold district type is a pretty solid mobile suit for its time, even with newer mobile suits in battle operation the gm cold district has still shown to be capable to hold its own against some tough opponents.

@@MusicFan752 GM Cold is pretty solid in GBO2... XD

@@LilyBeta it is, granted the leg armor is weak, but it’s armaments are good, they really helped to push the enemy back.

The Hygogg isn't a pushover mobile suit and the Cyclops team at that point was full of elite pilots so I don't see why the Cold District Type gets made fun of.

Pff i think pilots who perfectly play their cards right and with a timed display of skill it would be possible for outdated suits destroying newer models plus those new Hygogg where not bad machines either.

in the psp girens greed amuro + unicorn gundam.. makes the zeon a push over

I've wanted to try the girens greed games but none of them are in English correct?

@@pinchman2946 yup

@@pinchman2946 it's not that bad. A general understanding of gundam is enough. The only misstep because of the language barrier I encountered. Was the decision to scrap the 13th Autonomous Corps. If you select yes White Base mode ends and you get their units in Jaburo. If you click no and keep selecting no when asked in the future White Base mode continues until you take A bou A Qu.

@@pinchman2946 There's a patch for the psp game Menace of Axis V. It's not finished yet, but i should help you navigate the menus.

lol its still mean as hell to this day

This hits too close man...

Ouch

This burger needs some salt. We need to have White Base take a detour through Zeon territory to get some.

T-too soon, too soon

You still would have had Zeon remnants, and an incentive for the Federation to hunt them down. It's likely they would still regroup on Axis and bide their time there. I don't know if Haman Karn would have risen to power, but all the major player of the Gryps War would still have existed in a recognisable form. The AEUG without Quattro would probably have faired quite differently, though.

@@mattb154 haman karn risen in power is highly doubtful, especially haman and Char used to love each other when Haman was very young. If Haman wasn't with Char. The story or Zeta would've drastically different. Especially how haman karn is during zeta and Double zeta.

Gato and the Delaz Fleet might still pull Operation Stardust and we still might get Zeta and ZZ out of it.

@@gato23 Unless Kycillia was captured and NOT executed, Operation Stardust would probably be much different or wouldn't happen at all, since the Zeon remnants would be too busy trying to rescue her from prison. Zeta probably wouldn't happen regardless, but let's say Operation Stardust did happen. Even if the AEUG came to steal the new Gundams, they'd have two problems: 1. Char wouldn't be with them. Apolly and Roberto were decent pilots, but I doubt they'd achieve the same result without him. 2. The Gundam Mk.IIs would be based on the superior Alex and wipe the floor with the Rick Dias'

@@DarkButz Jamitov probably still would have orchestrated a way to form the Titans. It had less to do with actually hunting Zeon remnants, and more with Jamitov creating a private army that superceded the EFF rankings. He was one of the main reasons Operation Stardust succeeded. There would be some other problems as well during the Gundam MK II heist. 1. Char was the one that brought the Gundarium Gamma with him from Axis. Apolly and Roberto probably wouldn't have had the influence to acquire it and leave Axis with it. They may not have even left Axis at all. 2. The Rick Dias probably wouldn't even exist, so if they did still defect, they'd be attempting the heist in Galbaldy Betas at best. The heist without a doubt fails and the AEUG never recruits their greatest Ace, and is destroyed by the Titans. Because the AEUG never gains ground, Jamitov doesn't need to recruit and rely on Scirocco for aid, and he maintains control of the Earth Sphere with the Titans. Axis would not have nearly the forces necessary to take on the Titans, or even attempt to return to the Earth Sphere.

My theory was that hayato was supposed to be younger Just to show that the Federation was so desperate for man power They literally recruit middle schooler I have evidence I was just watching the movie trilogy when they show hayato wearing a man size normal suit and ryu said there are some child size normal suit And then in thunderbolt the Brotherhood reinforcement were children too

@@jrickducking6685 Charfield

HAHAHAAH dude that is soo good, subtle detail i didn't even really notice well pointed out sir!

Hayato is a true short king. He did so much more for the Earth sphere as leader of Karaba than Amuro during the OYW and the Gryps War combined.

I think he's just supposed to be short, Amuro, Fraw and Hayato start out Gundam at 15

Lol, like a "Mu in the Strike, Kira in the Freedom" scenario.

Sleggar gonna be the man who makes the impossible possible.

Sleggar was a fighter jock, not an MS pilot. I think his learning curve would have been too steep to make him effective in the Gundam. Also, at the point he joined White Base, he should have been issued a GM or at least a Guncannon. That he didn't suggests he did not adapt well to mobile suits.

@@TheHiddenBoss Actually that was Barney Stinson.

@@PsychoStreak Mu La Flagga senario

Damn, White Base would be toast. Amuro at that time hasn't awaken, it was the perfect time to beat him and Ramba is a better pilot than any of the Tri Stars.

Should also add that Amuro was locked in the brig for his reckless actions and for leaving White Base earlier; Sayla is in the Gundam when the battle happens. Not to say he wouldn’t stand a chance against the Doms, but whether he can or cannot doesn’t matter when he’s on the ship and not out there fighting to begin with. Depending on if Ramba Ral’s forces are still willing to try to capture the Gundam or if they quickly catch on that Amuro is not in the Gundam, Sayla may either end up dead or captured while the White Base meets its end in the wastelands.

That would be intresting.

Gihren’s Greed answers that pretty well, White Base is totaled and Ramba captures the Guntank and Guncannon for Zeon while the Gundam gets away.

The earth would have been speaking Zeon

@Pye22 Salfakar was joking you know, lol

@@tamatamappi I definitely was not. The engineer literally stated so.

@ basically yes, but the engineer was confused too, so Char was fucked up kwkwkwk

Forget AMBAC, with legs he could attempt a Char Kick in a Mobile Suit that is 30 meters tall, and has nearly 6 times the mass of a Zaku II.

Actually there is a Gundam Game based on this scenario in which, Gundam was crushed and Zeon won.

They did convert 2 ground gundams into space type aka blue destiny unit 2&3 so pixy is not hard to convert into spacr type.

If Side 7 didn't get attacked, and your scenario happened, they'd have 3 RX-78-2 Gundam units, 1 RX-78XX Pixy unit, 1 RX-78NT-1 unit, and two RX-77-2 Guncannon units. Totally OP. Probably wouldn't have enough room for all of them.

Gundam Solo Wing Pixy?

The Doms fighting Umon would have different reactions lmao

Sir, its bodyless gundam

It was unfinished. Those idiots forgot to paint it red!!

He doesn't have any legs

*angry 3 times faster and red char noises*

What if the zeong was painted red

Well you see the redshift effect makes red things faster than blue things.

bring the same arm gimmick from the HG Mudrock and i could kitbash those two together

kerosoldier Absolutely. And hopefully Bandai wouldn’t cheap out with including the Gatling guns like they did with the grenade launchers for the Mudrock. For a $45 high grade, that’s pretty inexcusable.

Amuro in GP03D would be overkill! Wipes out any major conflict.

I'd like to see that as well!

Me too

there's a CCA edit where Kamille was with Amuro, they just wreck stuff together because you got two Ace pilots

this what if has me thinking, since Char is gone, Char's counter attack never happens so what if Amuro aqqiures the Unicorn Gundam later on

@@devildavin Without Char so much would happen in the time since Zeta I'd wonder if the UC Project would even be approved.

I think there's a scenario regards to Kamille and Char in SRW where the reason for Char doing his Neo Zeon movement was Kamille

To be fair. Ultra Instinct isn't REALLY that much of a stretch for some one like Domon to get. Cause when you break it down, UI is really just moving with out thinking, to ether avoid an attack or deliver an attack, or both. Usually both.

another thing to consider is that amuro wouldn't have been in the same situation with the Alex

That's assuming the Alex would suffer the same fate as RX-78-2 when fighting Zeong. Alex was more superior machine created with Newtype in mind so Amuro can unleash his full potential. Amuro would probably win against Zeong with minimal damage and even if the escape from A Baoa Qu still happened, he would escape with Alex probably only missing an arm or head.

nice profile pic

Because the Kampfer had no clue that the arm cannon existed. As far as he was aware the gundam was defenseless, so he was just going in for the kill

@Shadow Vulcanus Wait what!? I never heard of that!

The whole series really depends on Char. I would think the fight happens nearly the same, just the Alex survives the confrontation and Char barely escapes. It wouldn't be to far off to say due to being a new suit, Amuro wouldn't be ready for the new controls. He would have to learn on the spot, meaning his performance would be similar. Char could have even realized that he wouldn't be able to defeat Amuro and decides to escape on his own by sacrificing the Zeong. All possible what-if scenarios really, but the narrative depends on Char's survival.

IIRC, Vist Foundation didn't have a very good relationship with Bright's Londo Bell faction which Amuro was a part of. So, I don't think Cardeas would trust Amuro with Unicorn.

@@androyus I see was you meet but I ment Amuro was Links mentor or teacher to use the unicorn better after all the unicorn was based of the original gundam that Amuro pilot

By switching roles, do you mean if Amuro became the enigmatic man in the mask? Cause there was apparently a Korean knock-off animation starring a character that looked like a recolored Char in full uniform, but when the helmet and mask come off, it’s just literally Amuro underneath.

I feel like this is basically what the Gundam Evolve series is, although the never touched on this topic, to my knowledge.

Good concept but I'm not sure everyone would be happy with this

Char and Amuro actually join forces in the 1979 novel in an anti-zeon, anti-federation alliance, but not even a paragraph later Amuro gets blown the fuck up by one of Char's subordinates. Regardless, Amuro's newtype ghost was really chill with it and newtype flashed everyone on white base to be cool with Char. Completely changes the outcome of the war.

That is the interesting part, since Char/Casval already geve his blessing at the A baoa Qu

For one thing, that would be a relationship Amuro would have that would actually stick instead of end in an off-screen breakup or a retcon. Another thing, that would make Amuro and Char brothers-in-law; they'd be no longer rivals but family.

Borther-in-law but possibly sometimes come to laugh at him 😂

@@TheHiddenBoss Imagine the scenario where char rebuild zeon in his father ideals, with the help and protection of Amuro. Does that mean char will marry haman karn, and then there is no char deleted affair ?

@@TheHiddenBoss if that's happen, I think Amuro will help char earlier, so because of that the rest of the series after 0083 will be different

I know that there were Titan remnants, but I don't know about the other two. They probably did have remnant groups.

Roberto Perez mostly likely there is but we’ll see if we get a answer lol

@@ninjaguy_12We have to wait for daddy Kakarot 197 to answer us

@@ninjaguy_12From what i recall, many titans remnants were absorbed by Mars Zeon after Gryps in AoZ Reboot. Hence the black woundworts and modded titan mechs. Never found further translations or other story tidbits, unfortunately.

Titan force either A. surrender to the Federation and are serving time/were proven innocent of wrong doing or escape to Neo Zeon and joined Neo Zeon

I thought that the Pixie was apocryphal? Not Canon?

@@Supercohboy what happen to the pixie is not clear since the game it was in had multiple endings but what is cannon is there where 3 pixie made and one supposed to go the the white base but never made it

3:07 Hayato really that short? Poor bro

I would say Sayla, but she seems more of a fighter pilot. Maybe Sleggar if he would have survived. He seems to have the aggressive fighting style for it, and doesn't seem to mind fighting up-close. I imagine if he piloted the Pixie, though, it would have a different color scheme.

Hayato, he knows multiple forms of Martial Arts so would be the best fit

There is a what if time line in Gundam VS Zeta Gundam that has Amuro join them, I don't know if it would have him as a founding member or not...

Less of a fanfic and more of a theory,

*aims gun* always has been

I take it that makes the magnetic coating the extra steak sauce you’d have on the side in case your steak is lacking flavor.

Just be happy he didn't die for nothing He a major factor that the timeline isn't bleak and dark

@@jrickducking6685 It was amazing how a character who only appeared in a 5 episode series made such an impact.