What if CARTHAGE defeated ROME?

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EU4 mods are a plenty but this one is different - this one, we get to play as CARTHAGE! Forget EU4 Rome and EU4 Roman Empire, EU4 Carthage is the one you should be looking for. This is EU4 Post Finem, where we answer the question of what if Carthage won the Punic Wars? In my opinion, this is the greatest alternate timeline of all time. EU4 Alternate History doesn't get better than this.
What if CARTHAGE defeated ROME?
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@TheSocialStreamers 5 месяцев назад

If you're interested in the mod, join the discord here! - discord.gg/qeaGRZxkBC

@user-yy5di3qg5u 5 месяцев назад

Would be an interesting idea to make a video about East vs West: A Hearts of Iron Game (cancelled Paradox Cold War that thankfully was leaked online and you can actually play it). You can find in on Wayback Machine details EastvsWest (and download it for free). It's sad that so few people knew about this game and even fewer actually played it.

@death-istic9586 5 месяцев назад

Love your videos!💚

@Pilloot. 5 месяцев назад

Chewbert really letting laith live out his dreams

@TheSocialStreamers 5 месяцев назад

I’ve never felt so alive

@Chewbert 5 месяцев назад

That Chewy guy does seem pretty cool ngl Thanks for covering the mod, broski, I appreciate it a lot! Glad to see you ripping it up and reclaiming Carthaginian glory!

@TheSocialStreamers 5 месяцев назад

THIS IS THE GUY! SUBSCRIBE TO HIM!

@Tri-angled 5 месяцев назад

I ❤ Chewbert

@Chewbert 5 месяцев назад

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@PixelHazlitt 5 месяцев назад

Just release the mod already!

@degoose2447 5 месяцев назад

Can you revive rome with all of its culture and religion in your mod ?

@marlongomezacevedo2170 5 месяцев назад

33:29 The library of Alexandria wasn't burnt by Christians, they destroyed what was left of it, as the library was mostly destroyed due to negligence, the Christians burned or destroyed what was known as the Serapeum, which was not the Library we know of.

@SquirrelMaestro 5 месяцев назад

Let’s say, hypothetically speaking, that Carthage is the greatest empire of all time. Then, this would mean that Laith is the true successor to Carthage as a Tunisian, and should create a Mediterranean empire

@nekogaming5300 5 месяцев назад

I meaaan modern tunisians really have very little genetic relation to the phoenicians so i mean not really lol lebanon is ironically the closest to carthage as it’s almost entirely phoenician

@DeezNuts-ju1rj 5 месяцев назад

ALL HAIL LAITH RULER OF CARTHAGE KING OF THE MONEY PILE!

@nekogaming5300 5 месяцев назад

@@DeezNuts-ju1rj lol

@theorixlux2605 5 месяцев назад

It's a simple question, doctor. Would you, or would you not, create a Mediterranean empire based in Tunisia?

@Sulidaire 5 месяцев назад

"What's up everyone. It's the Laith-Nayshun!"

@joshuafessey4190 5 месяцев назад

The absolute insane timing of releasing this the day before Oversimplified's Punic Wars 2: Electric Boogaloo dropped can not be overstated

@petar_bibic 5 месяцев назад

That's what I thought

@nrbmemes2414 5 месяцев назад

I think it's planned trust.

@Aldinth 5 месяцев назад

The only complaint I have about the mod is the start date. Ain't no way everything in the world would change so little. I do understand it cuts the amount of work tremendously, since all techs, institutions, etc get to keep their names.

@lieutenantleroy3533 5 месяцев назад

I agree. The world looks like it's had nothing happened for almost 2,000 years. No migrations and no kingdoms have been formed.

@_Aowyn_ 5 месяцев назад

Laith talking about how Carthage using the fact they owned land in the levant 2,000 years ago being tenuous at best is hilariously relevant.

@Quenn21 5 месяцев назад

I figured he might be insinuating to that but not trying to be specific enough to have it go against him if that makes sense

@jakedavidheilemann1208 5 месяцев назад

I feel like the timeline should have been set back a thousand years or so

@slouching_towards_los_angeles 5 месяцев назад

Not hating on the mod at all, it looks really well made and fun, but the plausibility of this alt-historical setup is thinner than whatever fabric they're transporting up the African silk road. (Not the Carthage winning part, thats actually reasonably plausible, moreso the idea that in ~1600 years so little about the geopolitics of the Mediterranean would have changed from antiquity. Also, the changes that are portrayed, such as the Suebi seizing western Iberia while at the same time a strong and unified Gaul would have stood directly in the path they would have had to travel to get there, don't really pass the sniff test for me.

@osmaniesquijarosa4308 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, it would’ve been more interesting if we had some migratory Germanic successor states in North Africa, Iberia, and Italy. Also no Avars/Magyars and no Balkan Slavs/Germans is super unrealistic and lame. This mod would be infinitely better if every region had some sort of struggle between the old powers and new upstarts, which some would be from migratory groups and others from Christians or Muslims that have taken root. Tbh the most unrealistic aspect is the religions.

@Mattis06 5 месяцев назад

@@osmaniesquijarosa4308that is the reason i like the mod

@brutusthebear9050 5 месяцев назад

I mean, Gaul is very clearly not unified if you actually look at their mechanics. Their main mechanic is centralization, so the gameplay demonstrates the decentralized nature of the tribes.

@osmaniesquijarosa4308 5 месяцев назад

@@Mattis06 what? The old religions? That’s fine, I can like it for that as well, but the fact it’s based in 1444 feels super uncanny and wrong to me.

@pileofcheese5017 5 месяцев назад

Formalise seperation of powers is a vanilla decision for any nation with a parliament. That's not an addition of Chewy's.

@osmaniesquijarosa4308 5 месяцев назад

What a truly terrible timeline, the baby sacrifices did continue 😔

@Tom-oj7si 4 месяца назад

Exactly... carthage was pure evil

@thewildgoat4056 2 часа назад

@@Tom-oj7si you mean based right?

@dr0g_Oakblood 5 месяцев назад

4:56 - uh, my guy, that’s a base game decision for having a parliament and a dip rep advisor lmao.

@Red_Scales 5 месяцев назад

Separation of Powers is vanilla, by the way ;)

@deathgnomes 5 месяцев назад

I want to play as Gaul so badly, forge a true Celtic empire.

@conboy1379 5 месяцев назад

If only Carthage hadn't fallen to Namibia

@pohorex6834 5 месяцев назад

did the mongol invasions just not happen in this world?

@richardbraakman7469 5 месяцев назад

They heard Carthage survived and got scared

@more17 5 месяцев назад

Praise Tanit and Baal Hammon, this mod looks amazing! I'm really excited to play this when it releases.

@Chewbert 5 месяцев назад

Praise Tanit indeed!

@madchessLeviathan 5 месяцев назад

why is the start date 1444? that seems wrong for this senario

@lilysowden4035 5 месяцев назад

Ease of making the mod mostly, changing every tech and institution and so on is a pita

@siamigo286 5 месяцев назад

Please continue this campaign, this has been one of the most interesting videos I’ve ever seen on the laith channel

@juanmendez3290 5 месяцев назад

this needs a pt2 so badly

@Gamereal6286 5 месяцев назад

Chewbert seriously made Laiths wet dream? He can now finally go after it 😄. Mod looks cool, hope you continue playing this one. To your enioyment here are some classic laith quotes: "Now we can hit them with our cogs" "Oh, the library didnt burn down this time?" "Stay in your desert! Dont get close to my civilization!"

@Ma_Zhongying 5 месяцев назад

"Stay in your desert! Don't get close to my civilisation!" was just the policy of the Neo-Assyrians.

@fhralr7552 5 месяцев назад

Laith, then an Oversimplified video on the Punic Wars? Christmas came a lot earlier this year

@pd2580 5 месяцев назад

This dropping almost the same time as Oversimplified dropping the Second Punic War video is absolutely perfect

@theragequitter910 5 месяцев назад

The borders don’t make sense for the date, hope he’s changed the numbers to be more believable

@petar_bibic 5 месяцев назад

And Oversimplified released videos on 2nd Punic Wars. Th timing.

@msxavier8519 5 месяцев назад

He should've named Gibraltar "Calpe".

@b.ug.p.7681 5 месяцев назад

I would really like to see more mod runs at least for EU4 and CK3, both this vid and the ones about Anbennar and ck3 Belisarius were great

@TapdotWater 5 месяцев назад

There's no way Oversimplified's Punnic War 2 video comes out the NEXT day. What do you know that we don't, Laith?

@benc.3128 5 месяцев назад

To be fair this isn’t the first video laith has made about Carthage

@some_nigerianguy 5 месяцев назад

The fact that I saw this while watching oversimplified new Punic war videos😭

@Archangel71 5 месяцев назад

Hannibal in 204BC upon hearing that the Romans had landed in North Africa: 43:32

@PhoiDel 5 месяцев назад

Got to say, with your video on Carthage, and LordLamberts video on that other country that I cant remember the name of. But has OP Ideas I am sooo going to download this.

@arturo0727 5 месяцев назад

Wait holdon were you sponsored by Oversimplified? Lol the timing is perfect lol

@rcrumpet 5 месяцев назад

I am so excited for this mod to come out

@spartaan1318 5 месяцев назад

The insane difference between your video opening and ludi's video opening is hilarious

@HeroNotFound05 5 месяцев назад

I am once again requesting that Laith play the Odd Empires mod in EU4

@Diabhork 5 месяцев назад

2 EU4 Carthage videos in one day, the other from Ludi

@AtlasIsMissing 5 месяцев назад

I litteraly had this thought last night

@benjaminy4872 5 месяцев назад

I can tell this version is a little while back because it still has the old HRE screen. Anyway the mod looks fire, just one more day to wait then I can play it all weekend.

@zachtaylor8222 5 месяцев назад

Ermergerd this looks fun!

@Yes-qj4bi 5 месяцев назад

Oversimplified viewers after finishing the vids:

@Piratejoe44 5 месяцев назад

Day 184 of asking for an Oranje Free State Playthrough of Vicky 3...It's surprising how long it's been now in retrospect.

@rogofos 5 месяцев назад

the starting line of the video is a little funny if you remember that total population of the entire Carthaginian empire and Rome put together was probably half of the current population of Tunis as in a single city has more people today than both of those countries had at the time

@boltzenberg6836 5 месяцев назад

we need to make Ludi (Rome) vs Laith (Carthage) happen

@11SimonS11 5 месяцев назад

Part two! Part two! Part two!

@Vic2_over_Vic3 5 месяцев назад

Here after the oversimplified video

@joshuapilling3641 5 месяцев назад

I literally once wrote a whole setup and lore for a mod like this for tw Rome 2 but i couldnt find anyone to actually program the thing.

@SS5Ghaleon 5 месяцев назад

Even if they defeated Rome, they'd still be the first to lose to Namibia o.O

@antoinelucas8229 5 месяцев назад

That united GAUL seems scary

@amilavxilmen5632 5 месяцев назад

Channeling your inner Punixc

@resignedfaun2344 5 месяцев назад

Yes

@user-tx9yo1tt5l 5 месяцев назад

Have you ever thought of doing a forming Slavia stream/video in CK3?

@rafal2959 5 месяцев назад

Carthage had it coming.

@richardbraakman7469 5 месяцев назад

"What if Carthage hadn't crippled Hannibal at every opportunity?"

@adamkrivanek2304 5 месяцев назад

I must say that this looks like a really interesting alt-history mod which I'll definitely try out, but I have just one question: Why the Hell is Bohemia called "Moria"?!

@hatebeing_sober 5 месяцев назад

This is "what if Carthage won" of course it's gonna be weird

@Marcoz588 5 месяцев назад

Finally Laith, more Imperator.. GIVE US MORE IMPERATOR!

@milanchampion15 5 месяцев назад

I'm quite worried for your mental health Laith, you're drifting into Faragian nationalism

@elyassinaljanabi6213 5 месяцев назад

i liked this but i am a little on edge about sharing information lol

@darcinit 5 месяцев назад

4:50 Erm! that is a base-game decision

@Chewbert 5 месяцев назад

he doesn't know xd

@RafaloweGranie 5 месяцев назад

Nice wideo. BTW WHEN CURSED ARABIA?

@dorktriogamer2865 5 месяцев назад

Laith going full sssniperwolf in that opening

@lagomorphcavy6132 5 месяцев назад

Laith v.s. Ludi (Carthage vs Rome) when?

@maxkaufmann833 5 месяцев назад

Let's go Carthage.

@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 5 месяцев назад

Chewbert probably got paid by Laith to make this mod

@AbrahamLincoln4 5 месяцев назад

average rome fan vs average carthage enjoyer.

@sophiekirkpatrick300 5 месяцев назад

Carthage being an end node with essentially no access to european trade is heinous design. either carthage shouldnt be an end node or italian trade should feed into carthage. it feels so bad to be a maritime trading nation where your natural expansion routes all do nothing for your trade.

@tigrecito48 5 месяцев назад

i started as ardabil opm formed persia then eranshahr... had to console command in zoroatrianism cos i dont have any dlcs after emperor and its normally on a mission i think.. now i have yemen and syria as vassals... thought id spread the love before america gets too strong! lol

@suchtxsrykeinwlan6218 5 месяцев назад

Imperator Rome?

@makiskanyt9269 5 месяцев назад

When stream tho ?

@riccardotastardi7209 5 месяцев назад

You can play as Salerno? My homecity?? I have to download it

@degoose2447 5 месяцев назад

Will it be on paradox mods I dont own eu4 on steam

@something5032 5 месяцев назад

I think all eu4 youtubers have some mental connection (im about this and last ludi video)

@jameskirkland3187 5 месяцев назад

TW Rome 2 Carthage campaign when.

@tike2440 5 месяцев назад

Did He forgot raiding?

@griffinhunter3206 5 месяцев назад

CARTHAGE WORLD CONQUEST GO

@kaiserhhaie841 4 месяца назад

First thing I did in this mod was burn carthage and restore the republic 😂 I also rebuilt the City as "New Rome" and made it Roman culture haha

@johnconnor8206 5 месяцев назад

Day 159 of asking for you to play Victoria 2 as cuba and become Fidel Castro

@hugofavier1892 5 месяцев назад

Why not play Imperator Rome?

@trixie2558 5 месяцев назад

"One of the biggest atrocities in history" is a boooooooooooooooooold statement.

@hydragaming540 5 месяцев назад

Im hoppin on sparta immediately when mod drops (gonna kick some macedonian booty)

@lapisdragon1237 5 месяцев назад

I guess my version of this would be making Poland rise above it's competitors to become an Eastern European Powerhouse? Sorry if this seems entirely disconnected from anything, it's just that when you run out of ideas on how to tell someone to play a Fire Emblem game, it's really easy to fall back on yourself. Speaking of which, day 157. Play game.

@user-lz2oh9zz4y 5 месяцев назад

Based and Laith pilled

@hadenno9831 5 месяцев назад

yay

@saltminer4429 5 месяцев назад

Unjust? Woe to the vanquished more like it, the Romans learned that the hard way. Carthago Delenda est

@thebender7458 5 месяцев назад

Based

@ChrisVillagomez 5 месяцев назад

My favorite facts about the Punic Wars are the sheer amount of Romans that were killed, only for yet another Legion (or seven) to show up and continue the fight as if 50,000 soldiers hadn't just died the week before

@Boretheory 5 месяцев назад

@@ChrisVillagomezdoes defeat really matter if u refuse to surrender and the enemy ends up worse than u?

@ChrisVillagomez 5 месяцев назад

@@Boretheory Exactly. Personally, I would have cut my losses after the first couple of Legions died and were almost immediately replaced, if they still sent more it was just proof that Carthage was almost completely outmatched in terms of numbers. Like Troy or Thermopylae, it would only be a matter of time until the Romans overran Carthage

@Brakiros 5 месяцев назад

@@ChrisVillagomez Rome almost collapsed after those defeats, they had almost no reserve left and had to rely on their remaining allies and mercenaries to provide more soldiers. So basically Rome fought the middle part of the Second Punic War with 0 manpower reserve

@ihatebritain3942 5 месяцев назад

Imperator is dead once more

@myballsgetlikd2330 5 месяцев назад

4:06 - Albanians 13th lost tribe of Israel! SHQIPERIA SHQIPERIA

@Charle596 5 месяцев назад

2:11

@dinoling3527 5 месяцев назад

Two veiws seven likes, amazing

@degoose2447 5 месяцев назад

Saddest ending luckily not the real ending :) Roma Invicta

@KingofTrondelag 5 месяцев назад

Play Norway

@The_Very_Halal_Indonesia 5 месяцев назад

Tunisian Pride moment

@noonespecial9704 5 месяцев назад

This Chewy guy seems too... perfect... You sure he ain't Moroccan or somethin...?

@zeppelinled3967 5 месяцев назад

should have played rome to right the timeline.

@elcazador3349 5 месяцев назад

Carthago delenda est.

@I_want_White_Cheddar_Popcorn 5 месяцев назад

Not even 30 minutes and 1.5k views

@shadowbadgercat 5 месяцев назад

Did you know that the religion of Carthage was the old Jewish/Canaanite religion, but the belief in 1 god spread among Southern Levantine people (Judaism)