I read a comment a few years ago that said about 9/11 weather…..”the sky had never been so blue until that day…and it hasn’t been that blue since” Idk, It resonated with me.
I believe that. There were so many commenting on the unusually beautiful sky that day in NYC. I will say it was that way in South Carolina that day. That morning, before the attack, people were talking of how gorgeous the sky was. September in SC is hot, often humid and cloudy or hazy. It was the perfect temp, clear. I called my husband to come out and look at the sky. The blue was incredible. I know it was in NYC as well.
I often think that, all but flight 93 passengers had no idea what was to become of them, perhaps 175 after they saw smoke billowing out from one of the towers. I don't think any of them had any illusions of surviving when they saw tower 1 smoking.
Only American 11 did. United 175 was over New Jersey before it was hijacked. It still flew into Pennsylvania and then turned back around. It was completely all over the place. Marwan Al-Shehhi was the worst of the 4 pilots and he almost collided with 2 other planes and then just nose divided off the New York Bay and then almost missed the towers he had to do one final pull to hit the tower. You can see it in the new coverages and all crash videos. He didn’t have a clear route and you can tell by his movements. Atta knew more what he was doing
One of those detailed programs about 9/11 (maybe "Inside 9/11") has claimed that the terrorists had to pick a clear day throughout the Northeast so these pilots (who didn't have or required extensive guidance experience) had an obvious view of the Hudson River, which is very wide and straight from Albany south to NYC. The river provided an easy visual for the suicide pilots to get to the intended target). I believe they would have tried to wait for a clear day if 9/11 had been cloudy.
I’ve even heard Atta wanted to attack in October in the original plan but pushed it up earlier because the terror threat was being broadcast as high by the fbi so the pressure to do it as soon as possible kicked in
While that makes complete sense, its also doesn’t. It’s a plane, you can’t just book on the whim of weather. The flights were already booked far past the point of knowing the weather.
I doubt the terrorists would have carried out the attack on a day without great visibility as it would decrease the spectacle and the chance of a successful attack.
Oh but there was! hurricane Erin was parked off the coast. It’s trajectory was headed right for New York City but stopped short and just sat in the North Atlantic for hours eventually backtracking then disappearing on 9/11
just going to slightly disagree with you saying the rain wont affect the fires. as the fires burned, they pulled in VAST amounts of air from the outside, all that air would have been much more heavily moisture laden due to the rain and fog. this would have provided a small but measurable amount of cooling to the columns and also combustible but not yet burning materials inside the towers slowing the rate of the fire by a small amount. possibly prolonging the life of the towers by several minutes, especially given the water would flow down the exterior walls of the towers providing a very noticeable amount of cooling to the outer walls, it wouldnt have been enough to change the fate of either tower though.
@@garynubipwek3178 that's how pouring water on a fire works, it takes thermal energy to evaporate that water, and the steam takes that energy with it cooling the surface left behind, ( like how your sweat evaporating cools your skin )
I think if it was a thick but very thick fog on the city, and the planes still somehow still hit the towers, nobody on ground would have realized in the first seconds but would have realized with the thick black fog coming out and the jumpers.
@@Lilgoth89 the fires inside the towers were way too intense and massive for rain to extinguish them. Not even severe thunderstorms wouldve put them out, and if it were raining that bad, the flights wouldve been cancelled. But it wasnt raining, it was nice outside, and 9/11 happened, so we could argue about what couldve or couldnt have happened, but it happened. It is what it is.
Another insteresting topic to talk about is how would 9/11 be if the twin towers had a sky bridge similar to the Petronas Twin Towers where there are sky bridges connecting the sky lobbies together, or maybe even a skybridge on the top floors connecting the North Tower's Windows on the World Restaurant to the South Tower's Observation Deck. As much as a sky bridge would ruin the design of the Towers and make them look ugly, it would've definitely saved many more lives since people can use the bridge as a way to escape to the only tower that had a stairwell. That was also the intent of the Petronas Towers' sky bridge as a means of evacuation for people in one tower to get to the 'safe' tower.
That’s interesting. I’m sure everyone would’ve flooded to the “safe” tower. Not sure how much time happened between each planes but that could’ve for sure saved some lives. It’s ugly to look at but you wouldn’t say that if you live depends on crossing it.
I’ve been holding this video all day, so I could finally watch it when it’s not just background ambience - latent fascinated with how the pilots might have coped with bad weather….. And then your video starts and the first thing I think is - They would have been waiting for the good weather. They’d be asleep, on that day. That’s how they’d cope. Still watching this video, dammit.
Well even if it rained on September 11 the the bed guys would wait it out and do it on another day. So yes it will save it for a few days, but no it won’t save it forever.
Woah what is that photo at 1:15 of the towers from a plane window? It really stood out and serves as a glimpse into what the passengers saw before hitting the tower. New year same great videos, keep it up man
From what I understand, the passengers on Flight 11, the 1st plane, would not have seen the towers. However, some passengers on the left side of flight 175 would have seen the North tower full of smoke before colliding into the South tower.
Shame those thunderstorms that occurred the night before didn't persist! They were quite intense so you would have had very limited visibility and of course strong windshear conditions
I think if it rained the towers might’ve collapsed faster with all the water build up. I doubt the rain would do much to the fire since it was a gas fire. If wind was blowing, it could’ve made the fire worse.
There would have been minimal water build up - very little would have ended up inside - especially compared to the water there already was inside the towers due to the busted pipes.
The hijackers picked the date well in advance using long term weather forecasting. This long term weather forecast was available on the internet from about 1999-2001 and was taken down right after.
The hijackers chose September 11 because it was symbolic of an Islamic conquest that had occurred on that same date centuries ago. I believe it was in the 16th century. Some Muslim group even wanted to build a "triumphal mosque" near ground zero.
@@dustinzilbauer7582Based on the 9/11 Commission, The date was chosen around Aug 20th. It was originally intended for early 2001 but Atta urged Osama that the plan was not ready yet. Osama kept insisting since he didn’t like that they were to many operatives in the US and especially after one hijacker was arrested early Aug 2001.
No joke I predicted the title of the next video. I was going to recommend barometric pressure (sunny weather) and the moon phase (whining crescent) on 9/11 plus what if Hurricane Erin was closer to shore.
Whoever did this must surely have utilized good meteorology in their planning. That's why it was a perfect day. They would not have done the mission in a time of bad weather. So it's almost a moot point, except that it would be curious to know whether or not there could be a sufficient amount of rain to keep the buildings cool enough that they would not catastrophically fail the way they did
Flight 175 had 3 near misses with other planes midair before reaching its target. What if flight 175 collided with any of those 3 planes and the south tower got spared? In that scenario does flight 93 reach its target and hit the White House/Capitol building?
I think after the pentagon was hit, they’d have known it was terror, and word would have still got out to flight 93. Even if it didn’t, the white house still would have already been evacuated.
Now yes it is true that the rain could not have put out fires, its true it could have helped the fires. The amount of runoff going down the building beams would be of some assistance in an adequate rain downfall. Certainty the North Tower would still collapse eventually, but the rain would spare the North Tower an additional 30 minutes or so.
No , the rain wouldn't have had any affect on the fire it was a raging inferno inside the buildings and the exterior of the buildings were made of metal which basically would have deflected the water.
@@josephbennett3482 Please explain to me how metal will deflect water..No science proves this is true. Runoff from the broken steel would have an effect, granted not a very big one, but as I said it would buy time, no more than a half hour or so. Take this experiment for example- Take a butter knife and run it under a drizzling faucet- You will see that the water will run to the end of the knife just like a runoff effect….Now if the runoff from down the beams reached the impact hole on the Trade Center, It would drip into the building- To a small extent. Now let’s say that a few beams at the top of the impact hole had inward curvature at the end due to them being bent inward from the plane, you would have runoff cascading down the beams and into the impact hole- Mind you, like I have said this would have a very SMALL impact on the building fire. It would buy the building some time, but eventually it would collapse. I understand there was an inferno in the buildings no doubt, but any small steams of fluid that enter the inferno would make a difference, even if it is a small one.
If the first plane missed it would definitly crash into the ground bc its angle but the second plane wouldnt crash bc its angle to the ground wasnt that much so i think the hijacker would realise they are gonna miss the tower so he would probaly pull up and loop around and hit the angle in how the first plane hit and would have probably have a good angle and would have hit lower
interesting "what if".. weather would've really ruined their plan since they wanted that 9/11 day.. they would've had to wait another year . not sure if the year 2001 was significant in the plan (first year of of the century maybe). the more delays, with cellphone quickly becoming popular would've changed things.
I honestly believe it might have delayed the inevitable for a clear day but it would have happened no matter what because it was these terrorist attacks that led to the tightening up of security.RIP to all those that lost their lives that day
Only 3 , and all had the buildings removed after the release. True Crime New York City was supposed to have them , GTA's map was modified before the release to remove a lot of what would have resemble the World Trade Center in their game , and then in Spider-Man the site where the towers would be is just a large empty space.
What if Covid 19 was here in the U.S and it began in September 2001 would 9/11 happen? Would flights be canceled and Mohamed Atta and his cronies canceled their plans?
Will we ever find out just how many terrorists might have been on other planes that day? What if they had guys on ten or twenty more planes ready to do their dirty work but those planes were forced to land at the nearest airport? Did those guys just get off and blend into the chaos with the rest of the passengers? Are those guys still alive today walking among us in the States or in their Middle East homelands? Will they ever write their memoirs and let us know just how far reaching the attacks were meant to be? Will there ever be any deathbed confessions? That is scary to me. But even scarier, what if one of those potential terrorists had a "come to Jesus" moment in his life and became a Catholic and goes to confession? What if he tells his priest the whole story? Would that priest tell the world or hold to his Catholic beliefs that he cannot reveal what a parishioner says in confidence , holding to Church law? Let's remember, some of those guys were 19, 20 years old. This means they'd only be in their forties today.
I think and I have heard that these terrorists did their homework on how the towers were constructed and they hit the second tower like that on purpose, also this was their second attempt years later so they had plenty of time to prepare unfortunately..
Passenger aircrafts aren't common at night except for late arrivals from overseas travel and there would have been less fatalities because the towers were empty at night and lower Manhattan is dead at night due to nothing being open so that also would have helped the numbers of dead to be lower.
Obviously you not thinking logically of course the rain would go inside the building if it still got hit cause wind does that to rain and rain is usually a sideways fall then a straight down pour
IF the attacks had to be aborted because of the weather, what's to stop the terrorists from striking again on September 12? Or sometime afterwards? I mean, even if the FBI or whomever is aware of this incomplete attack, how are they going to stop a jumbo jet going 500 MPH?
This video is nice, but don't you think the terrorists specifically chose a sunny day to make it easier to crash the planes into the building in contrast to a rainy day?
I think the terrorists wanted clear skies all along the east coast so that it would be easier for them to fly and find the buildings. If it were inclement weather that day, they would have waited a bit longer.
Its said that professional pilots recreated the 2 planes trajectory and tried to hit the towers in a flight simulator. They failed all 3 times. Pro pilots mind you and were supposed to believe amature hacks who took a flight course could pull it off not just once but twice. They were as lucky as lucky Larry Silverstein.🛩✈
I don't know how desperate some people are for youtube views, but as a NY'er and an American I think it's kind of obtuse and disrespectful to publish all this "what-if" scenario conjecture. This is simply an opinion piece by you with no scientific data. Please go get a real job. Imagine how some of the people that lost someone from this feels when they see your video.
Yo you ever have the the window open where you live during any time it rained . What happened,. ?;WE WILL NOT FORGET ,,!!!! Did you forget what happened when it rained and you were driving your automobile Your window was .....I used to.keep.mine.closed.maybe open just a crack.,......because...... So would you like to rephrase your answer to your Hypothetical cause every single glass in the building had shattered ,so no windows and did.you not remember seeing those tremendous basically almost the whole side of the building.....come.on gonna do.these.little What if video , How about the one about not one passenger having to worry about getting BUMPED off.the flight due to overbooking...Not one of them had that issue ,,and I'm gonna probably bet those.wouldve been the only 4 flights that didn't have that problem ,Until Every flight was down by what I don't know 10:15 -10:30
