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What if Jet Fighters Never Existed? 

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Today, we explore an alternate history timeline: What if Jet Fighters Never Existed? Or more accurately, what if turboprops were chosen instead of afterburning turbojets? At the time, they were more efficient and accelerated quicker, so it could have been a feasible decision.
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@prius_power
@prius_power 11 месяцев назад
This is such a cool idea, you should totally make this a series
@Somebeanwhoexists
@Somebeanwhoexists 11 месяцев назад
Super pretty please a series would be crazy cool
@JulianPanebianco-zp1li
@JulianPanebianco-zp1li 11 месяцев назад
Yes, yes you should
@JulianPanebianco-zp1li
@JulianPanebianco-zp1li 11 месяцев назад
Yes, yes he should*
@marrqi7wini54
@marrqi7wini54 11 месяцев назад
Series? Guys this could be an entire aviation genre. Like steampunk or dieselpunk.
@theleftfootedsultan
@theleftfootedsultan 11 месяцев назад
⁠@@marrqi7wini54Proppunk! The more descriptive Turboproppunk or Propfanpunk don’t roll off the tongue well at all.
@seapickles5762
@seapickles5762 11 месяцев назад
I want to see a MiG-21 recreated with this type of turboprop arrangement. I think it would look hilariously cursed
@thelethalpredator672
@thelethalpredator672 11 месяцев назад
What about a f14 with turbo prop. I tried that on simpleplanes and it didn't work well lol. Mostly cause I wad trying to make a it ww1/early ww2 themed with wing sweep so yeah..
@object_333
@object_333 11 месяцев назад
Do 335 noises
@Aviator224
@Aviator224 3 месяца назад
I did a turboprop f-14 in KSP once and it worked surprisingly well
@Cythil
@Cythil 11 месяцев назад
Appearance wise, it reminds me of the SNCASO SO.8000 Narval. A French piston plane. But it had the same general layout, with even the counter rotating props. I really like the look of that aeroplane. And I quite like the look of this one too.
@orcabeast8006
@orcabeast8006 11 месяцев назад
That’s what I was thinking too! The resemblance is uncanny! Love the design ofc
@pux0rb
@pux0rb 11 месяцев назад
This has a pretty cool design philosophy behind it. I could see it being made in an alternate version of real life where jet engines just didn't work right. It also has a really striking silhouette.
@Thiefwriter
@Thiefwriter 11 месяцев назад
You're my absolute favorite niche-interest youtuber at the moment - The quality of your voiceover combined with the meditative build of the craft is an excellent combo. Keep doing your thing ❤
@bardo13
@bardo13 11 месяцев назад
Definitely want this as a series. I know flyout doesn't have this capability yet, but what if helicopters were developed before fixed wing aircraft?
@swedishmolasses2920
@swedishmolasses2920 11 месяцев назад
Flyout added helicopters last update! It'd be possible
@pasttenseofdraw5791
@pasttenseofdraw5791 11 месяцев назад
its goofy but its the perfect kind of goofy that allows for some brilliant ideas and designs that can be truly memorable - a series would be great
@1lop1234
@1lop1234 11 месяцев назад
Love the alt history series idea! Maybe companies with varying design doctrines like focusing on heavier planes, faster planes or manuverable planes for dogfighting?
@Hunter-ww9rd
@Hunter-ww9rd 11 месяцев назад
Great idea for a series! You could do this as well for classes. Modern heavy fighters, hydroplanes and flying fortress type bombers.
@marrqi7wini54
@marrqi7wini54 11 месяцев назад
We can not only make this a series but an entire aviation genre.
@chickenthelittle
@chickenthelittle 11 месяцев назад
You should really make this a series it would be so fun
@itsdokko2990
@itsdokko2990 11 месяцев назад
i'm a huge fan of creating alternate worlds. if you decide to proceed with that idea, you've got my whole attention there. hell, i might join later to the party
@1Kaisermerlin
@1Kaisermerlin 11 месяцев назад
I absolutely feel the same about turbo props being interesting and would make a fun fictional niche. Really wanna see it in gaming.
@Jude_M
@Jude_M 11 месяцев назад
Have you ever thought about making a video about what you think air travel will be like in the future. I would like to see your take on a futuristic airliner.
@ItsACamellia
@ItsACamellia 11 месяцев назад
definitely interested in seeing this as a series, always preferred the late WW2 and early cold war era aircraft. EDIT: regarding the ejection seat, I don't think it would be unlikely that even at its size the aircraft could have an ejection seat, the He-162 had an early ejection seat and that was very small, and the Do-335 had even great issues with tail and prop placement (solved by the same method as you, Explosives in both the rear prop hub and vertical stabilizer that blew them clear)
@frumpkin9282
@frumpkin9282 11 месяцев назад
Would love to see all the potential layouts for 'modern' prop fighters.
@Cyberboi
@Cyberboi 11 месяцев назад
I love it! It's like a modernized SO.8000, would be nice to see more
@monika-Chr
@monika-Chr 11 месяцев назад
I absolutely love alternate history / lore serieses with this kind of stuff! As a dungeon and dragons DM, this kind of story telling is the backbone of so many of my campaigns. Seeing something like this, where certain countries have their own design principles and schools of thought, naming conventions, and aircraft development where jet engines never really caught on would be simply incredible. Very much so hoping that idea comes to fruition!
@monika-Chr
@monika-Chr 11 месяцев назад
Like just thinking about the repercussions of that, I imagine IR based sensors and weapons would be less useful given the colder visible operating temperatures and Radar / TV based sensor suites would be much more prevalent.
@buck4826
@buck4826 11 месяцев назад
Love the series idea. Something like a jet/rocket powered P38 would be cool.
@loading...5879
@loading...5879 11 месяцев назад
That introduction scene of the plane looks like a War Thunder trailer. Beautiful work as always! Keep it up, I love your content!
@simonghesquiere6728
@simonghesquiere6728 11 месяцев назад
hyped by this concept and the possibility of a serie
@REAL-BIG-HAM
@REAL-BIG-HAM 11 месяцев назад
I think that Rotodyne style aircraft would be a very interesting concept for this alternate history series
@nathanielhinz4946
@nathanielhinz4946 11 месяцев назад
Such a cool dieselpunk concept! Definitely please do more about it.
@DallasWright2010
@DallasWright2010 11 месяцев назад
You sir, are everything I love. Alternate History, space, storytelling and hypothetical technology. I WANT IT ALL ! ! ! Keep making content good sir. Also Messier 82 is a pretty galaxy I agree :-)
@greatgianttomato3753
@greatgianttomato3753 11 месяцев назад
Yeah this is really cool please make this a series, seeing multiple countries, all with unique designs would be amazing
@greatgianttomato3753
@greatgianttomato3753 11 месяцев назад
great vid btw
@demariultraastra864
@demariultraastra864 11 месяцев назад
I gotta say that’s a pretty sweet looking design, really works strangely well with the loads of weapons on it
@jkerman5113
@jkerman5113 Месяц назад
Talking about fictional company lore sounds awesome. I like reading wikipedia etc about all the company and political reasons behind, say, the MiG-15 and its engine. It would be so fun to have a fictional aerospace company that doesn't just develop aircraft, but has a whole universe of politics and shenanigans to go along with it.
@levidotson6610
@levidotson6610 11 месяцев назад
I’d love to see an interpretation of a high speed biplane in this style
@enderjed2523
@enderjed2523 11 месяцев назад
Why not the complete inverse, a jet powered biplane? (Monoplanes never being invented)
@levidotson6610
@levidotson6610 11 месяцев назад
@@enderjed2523 I love it
@enderjed2523
@enderjed2523 11 месяцев назад
@@levidotson6610 If the Fairey Swordfish could do ridiculous things with a 690hp piston engine, imagine what it could pull off with a jet strapped to it.
@tslaughter3804
@tslaughter3804 10 месяцев назад
@@enderjed2523it would really need some pretty strong wings and then again it would limit the speed greatly but I would love to see something like that
@solarflare623
@solarflare623 11 месяцев назад
Yes! I would love to see this turn into a series!
@strigoi_guhlqueen8355
@strigoi_guhlqueen8355 11 месяцев назад
Would love to see a stealth bomber in this style
@safeish57
@safeish57 11 месяцев назад
awesome video! cant wait to see how aircraft will develop without jet engines
@petersmythe6462
@petersmythe6462 11 месяцев назад
I think this creates an alternate reality where rocket fighters also likely exist. We might even see a Bell XF-1 or something. Turboprops have serious difficulty getting close to the speed of sound and actually exceeding it becomes wildly inefficient. Yet at moderate speeds they can loiter much longer than rocket-powered aircraft. There might even be hypersonic glide interceptors.
@Milchreismitschoko2
@Milchreismitschoko2 11 месяцев назад
Great Channel! I found you a couple of days ago and watched all your videos. Your builds and testings are very nice and entertaining. Keep it up!
@lemanbest7356
@lemanbest7356 11 месяцев назад
I think this is a sick concept I love it, and can not wait to see what your amazing mind can come up with. Keep up the good work :D
@rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778
@rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778 11 месяцев назад
Would love to see reimagined jet fighters, with their jets replaced with turbo props, but the same basic frame and fuselage
@bookshpan
@bookshpan 11 месяцев назад
I love this idea, you should make a series of it imo
@fenrisforgeaustralia
@fenrisforgeaustralia 11 месяцев назад
I love the idea of an alt series. This aircraft reminds me a little bit of the A1 Skyraider. Keep up the great content mate, can't wait for more.
@skyekid1
@skyekid1 11 месяцев назад
This is my new favorite video, the idea and concept is amazing, I guess great minds think by of arguments(of alternated histories)! This was an amazing plane by far as it looks like a P-50* (if I didn't forget the name and mistake a plane*) The video was entertaining! Nice work!
@mr.pinstripe7171
@mr.pinstripe7171 11 месяцев назад
This was a pretty cool idea and honestly I would like to see you develop the world further
@jorjorwell1984
@jorjorwell1984 11 месяцев назад
Gotta say this is probably my favorite looking plane you’ve made
@Alte.Kameraden
@Alte.Kameraden 11 месяцев назад
There were a few turbo props which could go super fast. Though I remember one was so loud that it would cause ground crews to vomit because the tips of the propellers would break the sound barrier so it was like a constant none stop sonic boom.
@pleaseenteranamelol711
@pleaseenteranamelol711 10 месяцев назад
Yes, the thundershriek. The torque of the turbine engines was so strong that it was pitching to the left constantly, as the plane essentially attempted to rotate around the driveshaft. Loudest plane in history. I wonder if they could have used the deafening loudness as a weapon? If it had such awful effects on people to begin with, surely it could have been made to be even louder and more powerful. Imagine a collection of enemy soldiers being suddenly buzzed by 3 or 4 of these things at once.
@rectum_ravager
@rectum_ravager 11 месяцев назад
really cool to see your channel growing.
@jpase
@jpase 11 месяцев назад
I'd love to see this as a longer series!
@Admre
@Admre 11 месяцев назад
I didn’t expect your account to post so many videos when I first subscribed, but I’m enjoying them all👍
@bobolam7342
@bobolam7342 11 месяцев назад
I love alternate history. I think it would be pretty cool to see how different technologies such as stealth (ducted fan shroud around props?!??), supersonics and ARAAMs work out with different these design philosophies.
@RobertMock-pu9yx
@RobertMock-pu9yx 7 месяцев назад
It kind of resembles a De Havilland Vampire/Venom, but with a turboprop engine. I like it.
@Konym
@Konym 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely love the upload schedule. Flyout is great!
@SuperHahaha1313
@SuperHahaha1313 11 месяцев назад
100% I’d binge this series. Please do it!!!
@flapperofwar7445
@flapperofwar7445 11 месяцев назад
That sounds like an awesome idea for a series!
@RadiantCataclysm
@RadiantCataclysm 11 месяцев назад
This would be an incredibly entertaining and creative series. Definitely continue with this.
@khoaa2451
@khoaa2451 11 месяцев назад
Please make this a series, love this stuff :)
@terencyowens9491
@terencyowens9491 11 месяцев назад
This is interesting. Even just modding 1940"s -1950's era warbirds, you have a lot of material to play with.
@stormy_in_vr640
@stormy_in_vr640 11 месяцев назад
I'd love this as a series, it was a great watch!
@paxxweidert5408
@paxxweidert5408 11 месяцев назад
Please do more videos like this! Side note, the plane looks a lot like one I drew a while back, its cool to see something like it in 3D!
@vaughnrow208
@vaughnrow208 11 месяцев назад
This would make an amazing series
@quill901
@quill901 7 месяцев назад
i know its a semi old vid rn, but id love to see this as a series, seems like a really cool idea!!
@megamango3216
@megamango3216 11 месяцев назад
I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!
@TheGrace020
@TheGrace020 11 месяцев назад
Anything you do is epic and i will watch! Love it 😼
@colinslye4814
@colinslye4814 11 месяцев назад
just found your channel today if you dont make this a series ill never be back. In all seriousness though amazing videos keep up the good work (and please make this a series)
@yep5624
@yep5624 11 месяцев назад
Really like the idea of following a series on your channel
@borisbishoff2505
@borisbishoff2505 11 месяцев назад
I love the alt history stuff! Can't wait to see what you come up with next
@APerson-fj6yx
@APerson-fj6yx 11 месяцев назад
Maybe make a super YB-35? Way bigger and faster, with stealth capabilities
@rebelchileantuna6180
@rebelchileantuna6180 10 месяцев назад
holy shit this was amazingly good to watch, i really hope to see more of this
@Joshua_Moore1917
@Joshua_Moore1917 11 месяцев назад
This is an awesome idea, and I'm all the way down for this being a series.
@Bananas6439
@Bananas6439 11 месяцев назад
This guy explains so good and yet only has 11k subs he deserves more
@nolanpeters5462
@nolanpeters5462 11 месяцев назад
This is basically why I want this game. please continue this as a series
@judet2992
@judet2992 11 месяцев назад
This thing is sick! Love it!
@EhmedCousCous
@EhmedCousCous 11 месяцев назад
Really enjoyed this! Now you gotta make a supersonic one!
@AndrewKellner-sv3tb
@AndrewKellner-sv3tb 11 месяцев назад
He always makes great vids
@cegicreator2476
@cegicreator2476 11 месяцев назад
I love in depth alternative history and I can't wait to see more of this series
@levidotson6610
@levidotson6610 11 месяцев назад
I love Thai concept, and would absolutely love to see this turn into a series
@Armymac
@Armymac 11 месяцев назад
I love this. Can't wait to see the next one!
@cornholioshintern273
@cornholioshintern273 11 месяцев назад
Pls make this a series it is super interesteting
@yerp1554
@yerp1554 11 месяцев назад
I love this channel and ive always wanted to see a more modern prop fighter concept ❤👍
@jeongwaaiho818
@jeongwaaiho818 11 месяцев назад
Nice video idea! It'll be amazing to explore the "possible" tech trees in our world lol
@StrikeEagIe
@StrikeEagIe 11 месяцев назад
These explanations are phenomenal
@alfredocas1415
@alfredocas1415 7 месяцев назад
i absolutly love that you almost build the mwari from paramount group, you have the same mind as their engineers, nice
@megan00b8
@megan00b8 11 месяцев назад
Oh don't be silly, we absolutely adore your rants about stuff while the timelapse is playing. On that note, dunno what editing software you're using, but you could record the audio before you make the timelapse so that you can talk about whatever you want to. PS: please consider making a BSG Raider, I want to see what that flying horseshoe can do.
@Formerly-The-Alex-And-Co.-Show
@Formerly-The-Alex-And-Co.-Show 11 месяцев назад
would love a series of this
@kaiserepsilon4011
@kaiserepsilon4011 10 месяцев назад
This is almost exactly like a scenario I have for a world I'm building. I hope to see more of it.
@josiahrodriguez8020
@josiahrodriguez8020 10 месяцев назад
This might be my massive SAAB bias but this looks a lot like the SAAB 21 but with a Prop-Fan. Absolutely love it, reminds me of some of the CAPSTONE projects i see from the Aero track seniors at my school.
@RT-PD
@RT-PD 11 месяцев назад
I enjoyed the rambling you do
@Louis_Roper
@Louis_Roper 11 месяцев назад
I love these videos!!!
@brucetonkin2882
@brucetonkin2882 11 месяцев назад
Please never stop with the rambling voice overs Messier. They make the videos informative and are just as enjoyable as the builds (for me at least)
@rfak7696
@rfak7696 Месяц назад
This is really cool. I always wante to see how late WW2 superprops with more modern sensors and armament. Please, turn this into a series
@terrick9099
@terrick9099 11 месяцев назад
This is a very good idea, you should definitely make this into a seiries
@obamabinladenblair1509
@obamabinladenblair1509 11 месяцев назад
This is a really cool series. Do you think, when the game comes out, we could download these planes?
@_The_LunchBox_
@_The_LunchBox_ 11 месяцев назад
Ideas like this are why I want this game. I just wanna make a bunch of cool (float)planes.
@maxbennett5412
@maxbennett5412 11 месяцев назад
5:20 Maybe to allow the turboprop to be in front they would put the radar and other equipment inside sing mounted pods on the end or bottom of the wing? Oh yea and if you are thinking of cold war turboprops the Thunderscreech is a good example of why propeller planes trying to go beyond the speed of sound are a bad idea.
@clockworkgiant9070
@clockworkgiant9070 11 месяцев назад
I am a sucker for alt history, especially alt history aviation. Crimson skies was my first introduction to video games after all.
@nullofthenull
@nullofthenull 11 месяцев назад
I love the idea of alt history/alternate power aircraft also can you make helicopters in flyout?
@bluepenix
@bluepenix 11 месяцев назад
guess whos back back again jimmys back tell a friend lol great vid as always 👍👍
@gabeteuton
@gabeteuton 3 месяца назад
loved the video idea!
@nilsdoesvr
@nilsdoesvr 3 месяца назад
Nice ideas, would you later create a Light fighter with the Fuselage of a F-104 with the extended wings of a F-5, the engine of a f-15, the lerx of a mig-29 and the tail and stabilizers of a f-4? Thanks for appreciating my arts BTW.
@icecreammastergod
@icecreammastergod 11 месяцев назад
Can you try to make a vtol plane in flyout? Also I really do like the theoretic plane video idea, you should definitely continue making videos like this.
@grooverchan1600
@grooverchan1600 11 месяцев назад
Love this concept
@GreegAVsAMV
@GreegAVsAMV 11 месяцев назад
Love your videos I'm just interested. Have you tried forward-swept wing design? If yes, how does it behave?
@dougroberts3840
@dougroberts3840 11 месяцев назад
This is cool, awesome looking plane, as I do not have Flyout, I was wondering if you'd take the German Dornier Do 335 Pfeil (Arrow), put turbo props front and rear, and modernize it a little while maintaining it so that one can still see it's clearly a Do 335. Thanks
@rjds1800
@rjds1800 10 месяцев назад
I really want to get my hands on Fly Out to try out ideas and create designs that never made it off the drawing board or what-might-have-been. I'm looking forward to seeing multiplayer matches where you could have air racers or dog fighters that has one rule you must use a fictional design or you designed it yourself. Now that would be interesting!
@ottosfamily4604
@ottosfamily4604 11 месяцев назад
Yes!! Yes!!!! Love your videos
@TheMonkeymasher
@TheMonkeymasher 11 месяцев назад
Would love to see you build some high altitude aircraft, maybe starting at things along the li Ed of the bell X1 and working up to something like an sr71. Would be cool to see if you could launch one from another aircraft like the x15
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