What If Season 2: All the Timeline and Multiversal reveals 

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When people ask me the “complicated marvel questions” I just send them to this channel at this point 😂

I think Captain Carter being able to hear the Watcher is because she had already met him. He never interacts with people and rarely revisits universes, so he wouldn't have known that the people he reveals himself to will stay aware of him.

Actually Thor does say in Infinity War that Odin told him he had a half-sister. Oddly enough that is never said in Ragnarok. Odin just says 'your sister'.. at no point is half-sister said by Odin. But of course he knows Frigga is his mother and Hela is part of the covered up history so he put 2 and 2 together but technically Odin did not tell him that in the short time they had before he died.

I loved the lore that was sprinkled in for the main timeline, like Hela's backstory and the King of Wakanda giving Vibranium for the war effort.

Glad to see Loki’s tree make an appearance again. This got me wondering what other myths have world trees and is there a superwatcher overseeing the orchard of world trees.

Odin should not have been defeated so readily. He can literally go up against a celestial. It would have been so much better for him engage Hera only to reveal that it was simple to test her. The Mandarin??? I am speechless.

My headcanon is that episode 1 branched way earlier than 2014. Before Drax was arrested, before Howard the Duck was put in the Collector's collection and before Korg and Miek went to Sakaar. And if we go by the lore of of episode 4, that is before 2012. We know Ronan was working for Thanos for a very long time, so it seems that in this universe he betrayed him way earlier. Maybe like 2011.

The Hulk blood thing seems to me to be foreshadowing for Smart Hulk, we know Tony helped Bruce with the transformation so I think this confirms he’d been looking into it for almost a decade beforehand

My guess for why some of the characters that are in episode 1 when they shouldn’t be at that time is that after Ronan killed Thanos he went to other planets first, for some reason, and citizens fled to Xandar because they knew it would be safe. But yeah I was really confused when I watched this episode

I just want What If movies. They can just take a new idea and add “a What If story” in the end of the title.

I was waiting for this breakdown and now its here!

Really loved this season, the episodes felt like completely new stories instead of just altered versions of movies which was an issue of mine in s1 stoked for season 3!

Great recap and debrief on the branch points! Love seeing all of them laid out like this! As for Kahhori's name, its pronounced as "Kah-hor-ti", which I heard in the episode but had to double check online to make sure I was hearing the pronunciation properly. I really hope she shows up in live action at some point, maybe Secret Wars!

40:40 Funny to hear them say that The Watcher is a fifth-dimensional being when that's also supposed to be the dimension that Superman's enemy Mr. Mxyzptlk is from as well.

I really enjoyed Season 2 of what if. The majority of the episodes I found myself loving more than season 1.

This is just a theoretical model but it’s been how i’ve been trying to understand things: Stacked upon each other are infinite universes/timelines all progressing in their own linear fashion (depicted as Multiple sacred timelines or trees) Each Prime strand or Sacred timeline have you is that Multiverse’s Prime Timeline (Tree Trunk) and each branch deviating off the trunk are the various infinite what-if scenarios, they are there own universes but each is anchored back to the main 616 (hence why variants all look the same/ except for Loki variants) Loki is Ultimately holding together the 616 Universe and it’s infinite what if Branches but what if Loki’s tree is merely one of a large forest; an infinite forest with each tree trunk containing their respective multiverse’s prime universe with the branches of each tree being all the various Branched Universe. Incursions can happen on Difficult levels, in the case of what if episode 8, the Avengers being stranded in the 1600s is causing their reality to collapse: On this Level the incursions are happening on branching timelines and hence localized to that reality. Based off of the model, the incursion that Stephen could’ve caused between 616 and 838 is a much larger Incursion in comparison as it’s not just two or more branching universes colliding and Undoing each other opposed to 2 Separate Multiversal trees slowly pulling each other together until one or both trees Timber and collapse into one another. Incursions can happen on the branches at a smaller scale just as two separate alternate Universes can; both cause an ungodly amount of deaths but in the case of non branching universes colliding it’s entire separate Multiverses colliding and collapsing into each other. Any Variant of a character that doesn’t look like them ex: Spider-man is because that variant comes from a different tree entirely, It’s how the spider verse because there’s an infinite amount of spider peeps on different branches and trees; all connected through the Web Of Life And Destiny:Spider-verse Main Mcu Timeline (Tree Trunk) Alternate What If Timelines (Branches) the tree is that specific Multiverse (Its anchored universes) While there are an infinite amount of trees in the forest (Omniverse) Despite each tree and it’s branches being slightly or drastically different too eachother, all eventually connect to one another through it’s roots and Branches alike. An incursion at the scale of Dr Strange m.o.m would be two trees timbering into each other, which could eventually have a cascade effect that leads to trees falling like dominos and the ultimate Death of The Omniverse: Secret Wars

I'm 100% sure you put more thought into this than Marvel does 😂 I love it, you actually makes it make some sense, thank you for everything this year, heres for the new one.

You really know how to explain the MCU Lore, I mean you that really helped me understand the MCU and how it works, mostly because of how the MCU multiverse works and how it connects to the SSU and Across the Spider-Verse. Thank you for everything and I hope you reach 100K subs

Honestly my favourite MCU breakdown/theory channel, keep doing what you do man! Absolutely love the videos!

The work you've been doing in documenting all of this is insane. Great video, can't wait for more!

Finally got round to watch what if! Been so busy I haven’t had the chance, obviously came straight to listen to your video after 🤣 thank you as always ❤

Really happy you went with the really long vid with everything in it!

29:30 Or Hela's reign lasted longer than it did in the sacred timeline, potentially meaning that Thor's birth is put off. Odin could have not seen the error of his ways till later?

Wrapping 2023 with a long video!

Happy new year! You are one of my favorite creators, I couldn't go a whole year without wishing you a happy one😁 I had a rough last year, so im really gonna work hard this year for the things I want for myself

While i was watching the episodes, I already was looking forward to your video about 'em.😍

201- Thanos decimates Xandar- did he kill Yon-Rogg or free him during that attack? 202- Winter Soldier isn’t really known by SHIELD, he’s a ghost. Remember in Civil War’s footage- Howard recognizes him instantly. The Soldier was an operative SHIELD knew existed but no one who saw him survived (except for Nat). 203- maybe SHIELD didn’t collapse? 205- Black Widow’s “There’s someone inside” is kept in the episode so what were they planning? 208- nope no way that’s an incursion. Also, Red Skull, Yellowjacket, Hela, Loki, FANDRIL? I wonder how many got “resuscitated” because by the time we watch the episode the rifts have been going for a while. Thanos deaths- 201, 204, 207,208 (once everyone heads back or maybe he’s been killed already), 209 That’s six deaths. And no Stark deaths this season Perfectly balanced. PLEASE NOOOOO to the reset tease. If Secret Wars ends with no Infinity Saga heroes and a new world, I’m going to bawl my eyes out.

Been waiting for this video since the season started. Happy new year!

Random thought I had for S2 E3, maybe in this timeline Fury didn’t do such a great job in keeping Hawkeye’s family off Shield’s files so when they got leaked to the public in Winter Soldier it was revealed.

Bro, your channel 3 is one of the best on RU-vid, even on the last day of the year you post videos, awesome, happy 2024

What if was amazing this season, and with them already giving us a tease for Season 3, I'm hoping that means we'll be getting it sooner rather than waiting another two years. 2024 is looking like a great year for Marvel animation, with Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur Season 2, X-Men '97, and potentially the new Spider-Man and Wakanda series that are rumored to be happening soon, plus Marvel Zombies. And since the live action movies are slowing down a bit, it's nice to have these animated series picking up the slack for Marvel content!

Also it was cool seeing how when Natasha actually physically kills Dreykov, Melina takes his place. So I wonder what happened to Taskmaster in this branched timeline

I think that Shield did not knew that Bucky is the WS, in the what if episode they don't say "he truly looks like him", they say "He looks just like him". That for me at least explains that they only realised it here and there, and things with him just snowballed from there.

Great Analysis once again. The way you are able to connect everything makes one of the best MCU youtubers out there. Keep up the great work in 2024.

Awesome video. My favorite episodes were episode 2 and episode 6. I loved seeing a young Peter Quill and young Hope van Dyne interacting. Plus the team they assembled looked cool. And Kahorri is such a cool character

amazing vid!

You do such a good job with these breakdowns.

I could not wait for this video to drop!

You already know I'm ready for this video, I love what if I'm so ready for more

The conflicting appearances of Korg in episode 1 and episode 4 to me suggest that while Korg did live on Sakaar at the earliest in 2012, he wasn’t a slave on the planet until he tried to incite a rebellion on Sakaar but didn’t have enough pamphlets which was mentioned in Thor Ragnarok. I think given that the NASCAR race on Sakaar in episode 4 was also participated in by Valkyrie, it wasn’t a totally slave race like the gladiatorial fights in Ragnarok. Although I’m not even sure those were completely slave fights since we see Thor and Korg separated from some of the other fighters before the fight. So presumably Korg and Miek only became slaves after the 2014 invasion of Xandar, going to the planet on vacation and getting stuck there in ep 1 when the planet closes off. This also confirms that if some of the guardians were on the planet, perhaps some of the ones we don’t see were killed before the invasion even happened.

Excellent and outstanding video.

Man it's so nice to have another video by you, it feels like it's been forever. You could say it's been a year ba dum tiss. I hope you had some happy holidays and a happy start to this new year. Sorry for the essay, I know I always do them but man there's just always so much I love to give my thoughts on. For episode 1, I simply think that everything we see with things like Yondus history with nebula are all after the branch. Because it doesn't really make sense for nebula to get involved with the ravagers in any way when she's constantly training and fighting for her life with Gamora and Thanos. Same applies to groot, Drax, korg and meek and Howard the duck. While it is a little dark with all the ruckus that this new Ronin caused I do think it's possible that Rocket died at some point and thats why he's not there with groot. For episode 2, I do think your probably right with the branch starting a year earlier and perhaps Yondu didn't have as much heart then, thats why he ultimately gave quill up. But for Hank, for one I don't like the idea that he just happens to quit a year earlier, it just seems kinda arbitrary and unrelated to the branch, so my personal headcanon is that Hank just quits several times. Hank has always had a very touchy relationship in the comics both with shield and teams in general so I totally think he's the type who could leave and come back and leave again. That just seems perfect for him. And while I'm totally down for an ancient wakanda or at least the history of wakanda series, isnt our current knowledge that it's going to be an okoye based origin story? I don't think it would touch on any of this info if thats the case, though maybe we could get some tidbits from tchaka. For Episode 3, considering that Hill was director, yea the branch must've been a while back and we dont really know where. Though I do believe that Happy mentioned that Tony had been working on that hulk blood serum for a while so I do think it was intended for that to be on the sacred timeline. Totally think EDITH was made a while ago too which seems kinda odd but knowing Tony and him always improving on things this makes sense. Happy being the freak is awesome, nice catch I didn't notice that. And I did notice that Darcy easter egg, but not the subtitles, thats hilarious. For episode 4, yea I really liked that while this episode gave us a ton of humor with the grandmaster, that I honestly wasn't much of a fan of, they did give him some more depth with knowing more then he lets on. As for korg, him being on Xandar could be due to that branch, perhaps ronin went after the grandmaster and collector since they're super powerful and may try to take the stone (if he has it) before going to Xandar and thats how korg ended up on Xandar in episode 1 and how he's still on Sakaar on episode 4. For episode 5, I definitely loved that the wasp and more females were there that makes so much sense, though I did see someone on reddit say she's gotta be wrong on the forming of shield because hank and Janet were like 9, I haven't had the time to fact check this myself but they do seem quite a bit younger then Howard so idk how that works unless shield was formed way later. And man between the chronology and the widow writing I really dont think this was thought out super well. I still enjoyed it in fact this episode was such a cool redo of winter soldier with Peggy but I dont feel like it was intentional to write widow as a jerk, and get the whole supposedly hank and Janet helped form shield as kids if thats true. I give praise where its due but I also gotta criticize when its due too, so think things through better next time lol. Also yea Hawkeye being a dad must be common knowledge in other universes, again maybe they didn't think this entirely through, though this is really nitpicking and doesn't matter whereas I feel like widows lines do matter quite a bit. For the watchers realm man this is the perfect thing for a book marvel, give us a what if book or even better kill two birds with one stone and make a realms dimensions and realities book and explain this as well as how the quantum realm works too. Plus more details about things like the mirror dimension and others work. Please marvel! For episode 6, man I always love making canon more beliefs, afterlifes gods etc. While Thor love and thunder did a lot wrong I really liked that part of it, and as a christian I really loved the god of carpentry joke, that was awesome. But also things like moon knight gave us an afterlife and gods too. I'm always down for more. Kahori was really awesome and an amazing episode, honestly might be my favorite episode, it was very well done. For episode 7, yeahhhh they really didn't think that one through, I didn't even notice that. Love you marvel, and I really really loved this season but you gotta do better with continuity, you literally just released this book, people are bound to keep track of a book they just read and go wait didn't wenwu come after? Anyway back to the episode proper, 100% agree I really want to know more about the 10 rings origin. Also this episode probably more than any other doesn't fit with its title, what if hela got the ten rings? she never did, cmon marvel its right there and you've used similar things before just say what if hela was redeemed or something similar. I always felt that heimdall could only see the physical 9 realms not any other dimensions or anything like that, so not seeing ta lo (hope I spelled that right) makes sense. For episode 8, thank you so much for explaining the branch here, I must've missed that line from Peggy somehow and while I saw the ending I was so confused as to how this works, your explanation makes it make a lot more sense. However I do still feel its a bit of an out there explanation to just try to give us a standard marvel comics what if, that doesn't have to be based on the main marvel universe at all. The appearance of the freak made me question maybe this episode is a subtle sequel to episode 3, I mean how else did happy become the freak after the branch in 2018 but before the universe gets these two timelines collapsed? it just dissent work imo. I do think most of this can be chalked up to the time stone being a cornerstone of reality, but the freak? idk that would be as weird as having sakarrian iron man show up. For episode 9, I do think what if is important, but I dont know if its only due to the opening. I mean I am Groot got a custom opening as did werewolf by night and we haven't seen any references about them yet, in fact we've had a noticeable lack of references to them, though that could be due to the timelines of both of them. Either way for me personally as an avid avengers campus enjoyer, with the new King Thanos ride, whenever that comes out, what if is already important, But I do think that what if is absolutely going to connect back to the main mcu proper. I mean we did get captain Carter on 838, while not the same one, I dont think it's a coincidence. Maybe oatu or captain carter will connect during secret wars. Strange being a 5th dimensional being was really cool, doesn't that put him on the same level as the watcher? I thought the watcher was said to be a 5th dimensional being somewhere but I could be misremembering. While a great episode I was really bummed to see strange supreme get so little screen time and supposedly die. I still hope he comes back but he's probably done. he's one of the few characters along with Loki from his show and maybe captain Carter where I really prefer the alternate version to the main one. Honestly I wanted to see him win for the lore ramifications. I mean at this point he was probably strongest character we've ever seen in the mcu, easily going up against the infinity stones like it's nothing and only being beaten because it was a 2v1 ultimately. Of course this isnt counting characters we've only barely seen like the one above all or eternity and maybe oatu is stronger but considering his fight with infinity ultron I kinda doubt it. and man that secret wars theory is something else, I hope thats true, I really want it to be but I kinda doubt it. we'll have to see. But man this season was so so good, better than season 1 for sure (I rewatched it right before this) but while it has more good, it also has more bad. Continuity was rough in this season. You can make it all work but it's not easy, and even the creator got some things wrong because they didn't bother to fact check. You gotta do that and you gotta make sure these episodes make sense, episode 8 for me was very hard to follow. I like them going kinda off the rails to give us some more stuff but it's gotta work and this was dangerously close to not working. And it seems like season 3 is coming really soon maybe this year since we already got a teaser for it? what?!?!? thats awesome. I'm absolutely looking forward to more and I hope they can keep on giving me the hugely op villains at the end I really love that. And can you believe it echo comes out in like a week! fun time for the mcu, they're definitely giving us a ton of stuff for the turn of the new year. barely a week between projects is the type of marvel timing I love, and I really liked about the start of the Disney plus era. Hopefully quality keeps up but I think it will.

Great recap, chief! I was eagerly waiting for your analysis, specially for the 1602 episode. It couldn't be an incursion! Also, people were diminishing Sacred Timeline Wanda for not being able to open multiversal portals, but they didn't take this being a Branch into account! Also, something else I noticed to cement that 203 is in December 2014 is that Happy has Sam Wilson's contact in his phone, so definitely after Winter Soldier. And it makes so much sense that the branch origin was related to the Fall of SHIELD. I originally thought that everything worked fine for 202, with Janet going subatomic in July 1987 and the episode taking place in June 1988, and simply placing Meredith's death/Peter's abduction in very early January 1988, but still it makes no sense now that you've mentioned that Meredith was still in early pregnancy in 1980, Peter was 8 when abducted and Hank didn't resign until 1989... Well, either way, I think it was a great season! Kinda bummed it seems there won't be a Assembled: Making of What If...? Season 2

Love it! You touched upon the aspect of What If that interests me the most, which is all the things that the show has revealed about the MCU sacred timeline! My favorite would have to be how the SSR acquired the vibranium from Wakanda to make Cap's shield. And along with that, the fact that SHIELD knew that Wakanda was technologically advanced. I didn't know about that explanation of how Captain Carter's timeline led to Hope becoming the Wasp and joining the Avengers earlier! I was totally wondering about that! (My initial guess was that it was Janet still as the Wasp, that she didn't get stuck in the Quantum Realm in that timeline.) The real explanation about women being inspired by Captain Carter is really cool.

Love your Idea to show when/where the timelines branched. I didnt knew I needed it, but I do!

Remember time works different on Sakarr. In Ragnorok Loki and Thor leave earth at same time but when Thor gets there Loki has already been there for weeks. So it possible Korg stayed in space until 2014 and went through a portal that put him into sakarr before Tony in 2012

My theory for episode 8 which can explain Happy Hogan being the freak is that the universe cap is from is the same universe as the christmas universe from episode 3 which is where happy becomes the freak since the watcher doesn't truly narrate over the change in the timeline but rather he talks about how captain carter isnt supposed to be here. I also think that the 1602 we see isnt a different universe or timeline but rather just an earlier point in time linked to that future in that timeline since the time stone would have time connecting powers not multiverse connecting powers so it connects points in time.

I'm a little confused about Sky World. I know it's the afterlife in IRL Mohawk belief systems, but the episode doesn't really portray that because the souls of their dead people on Earth don't go there. Kahhori and the Sky People were all teleported there physically. Which makes me think it's just a distant planet in normal spacetime and not a separate spiritual plane like Valhalla or the Ancestral Plane. Seems like a weird choice not to have it be the actual Mohawk afterlife in the MCU but perhaps that was intentional.

I think Marvel needs to hire you to streamline their timelines, cause man you have it on lock. Good job.

Been waiting for this! Funnily, this season of what if may or may not have played some inspiration to my What If pitch but I'm hoping you'll enjoy what I have. That being said I never considered the Yon-Ragg implications. Didn't realize the Wakanda series would dive into the history though. I did not clock the fact in that universe SHIELD did not fall. I also did not catch the Watcher repairing his realm ... you always find these neat details. The Kahhori episode was ... really fun. I loved the Hela episode that was so good. I do wonder if the Hela episode actually takes place later in the timeline than you might think given Odin's personality traits in the episode. I really loved the 1602 episode so so much. Ultimately I think the finale is my favourite episode between the opening, Captain Carter, Strange Supreme's ending and of course that Loki tree. Also happy new year!

Such a great video, I think that the point about the timeline branching and being slightly different prior to the actual ‘What if?’ Moment is true. It seems logical and is an easy hand wave if they want to do anything out of the ordinary without breaking the timeline. I kinda wish they would’ve thought about that prior to stating in the first season how important those big moments were but it is what it is

Yeah, You are back. Happy New Year 2024 Whatever name you are 🙏 🎉 Take care yourself and keep doing it for us. Thank you 🤜

I’ve been looking forward to this one. 🎉

Ima keep this on repeat for 10 hours

Very detailed description of the what if multiversal timeline.

The real reasons for the branches: E1 What if Ronan betrayed thanos then he killed The Other E2 What if Meredith Quil was diagnosed with cancer a year earlier E3 What if a magazine was left in Justin Hammer’s cell E4 What if Tony didn’t make it back through the portal E6 What if Surtur attacked right after the Battle of Jotunheim E7 What if Odin met Frigga 600 years later E8 What if Captain America got back up after Thanos killed Vision

For now one can say that Hammer wearing the Hulkbuster is the closest he gets to his Lego variant as Detroit Steel😂. Love Justin Hammer too. Also happy New Year

I hadn't thought about 1602 like that now that I've heard it I know realized how Peggy was the only one there after Steve was restored back after she fixed the universe. It was also really cool to see and learn stuff like Hela's original banishment and T'Chaka's father giving vibranium to make Cap's Shield.

Awesome!

As loki said in the Avengers, that cage obviously wasn't built for him! And everyone assumed it was for the Hulk. So if not for hulk, then who?

Nice breakdown, glad I found your channel. Btw where do you find these hd pages of the timeline book? Can you get it online?

Tbh, I don't like the fact that Drax, Groot, Nebula and Korg were on the same planet let alone the same room in season 2 episode 1. Makes the Universe feel small

Thank you for actually understanding the 8th episode. I've been having to explain this to soooo many people, and none of them are taking me seriously(the Wanda stans lol)

Once again, much appreciation to you for the efforts of making this multiverse stuff make sense. I really want Marvel to make some sort of official statement, or a book, or even an in-canon comic, just to get it out there. I'm 50/50 on Yondu and "Nebby" being a canon thing. It's possible, and it would be funny...but I just have a hard time imagining Nebula being friends with anyone while with the Black Order. One of my biggest disappoints of The Marvels was no Yon-Rogg. Even if their rivalry was just played for laughs in the sequel, I still want more of him and Carol interacting! I'm glad you also noticed the weird timeline discrepancies of the Ego episode. Makes me wonder if them saying 1988 was just a mistake. Otherwise we have to think Peter was born a year earlier, or Meredith died a year earlier, neither of which I really like. Also, just to note, the Hulk Cage Loki got put in IS different than the one Peter gets put in. You can tell because this one has arms facing down, while the Hulk cage has the arms going upward. So Peter's is likely a 1.0, and Hulk's is a 2.0. 22:57 - This was so funny, thank you. XD

I think the Kahhori episode might be my favorite of the entire series

6:08 They should probably change that to New York 1989. Also 26:50 This was around the time Rodrigo Alphonso Gonzalo searched for the Fountain of Youth!

What if Thor's mom "charmed" Odin? Remember she is a "witch".

Wow, Hulk Hogan was more effective than Bruce's Hulk

After what if the dialogue of reed Richard's make sense"the greatest threat to the multiverse is dr strange " I mean we seen in MOM a evil variant who caused Incursions in multiple realities

I was expecting you to do this! Overall I quite enjoyed season 2.

The green rifts remind me of the rift in loki season 2 finale, love the videos thank you!

Hey I've been waiting for you to do a video on what if, i really enjoyed this season and can't wait for the third one. I hope we see Kahhori in live action and i want to see Hela goddess of light to interact with our Thor and Loki god of stories, the 80s avengers episode was one of my favorites and i hope we see more of them. I could like to think in the 80s avengers episode hope was the one to first call them the avengers as a reference to wasp being the one to call them that when they first assembled in the comics also i can see hope joining as wasp when she's older same with peter and speaking of peter i would definitely like to think his future hero costume would be his classic star lord outfit and them finding mantis when they get to ego's planet. I can also see peter going on his own adventure in space meeting some of his guardians friends along the way, Happy New Years.

Great video. I needed that! One thing though, 34:06 - 1600s and 2000s being "compressed" doesn't sound like separate branches. It sounds like either a 400 yr section of a single timeline-branch got squeezed together into one moment, or more likely one moment from 1600s and one moment from 2000s, both from a single timeline-branch were somehow joined in that way. And if they can't undo that anomaly, the whole 'universe' (timeline-branch) will fall apart. I presume that's why once the anomaly was fixed, everyone disappeared (the branch being restored).

Was awesome to finally hear them say Gungnir

42:10 This white hole might be Supreme Strange’s universe being recreated. Though that would be a bit confusing since it’s an alternate timeline not an entire universe, but who knows?

Man imagine a what if season set in the paint universe or the cube universe would be wild

I like how well thought out Peggy's timeline is, the ripple effect was crazy having wasp on the avengers

Really enjoyed this season and as I said a few months back I've updated the Watchers MCU wiki page that was really fun. I had previously learned about Happy being the Freak in the comics early last year but thought it would be something they wouldn't have adapted so I was shocked by episode 3. I think my favorite episodes for this season was either two or three.

I think the image in 42:11 is the Big Bang after the forge created a Universe. I think the forge actually created a whole new universe that is outside of 616. Which explains why the watcher sends Peggy back to the 616 Yggdrassil because Peggy was literally outside of 616. Also do note that a new branched universe is created from alternate decisions. In this new forged universe, it wasn't from any decision but merely a "creation". Hence the big bang & origin universe.

Korg being on Sakaar in 2012 but not in 2014 could be explained if the reason why he's on Sakaar has something to do with Ronin, not sure what.

Great video. Episode 1: I don't think Ronan had the power stone otherwise I'm not sure how he wouldn't be able to defeat the planet protection eventually, even if he needed to bring a more strong weapon to power with the stone. Was cool to see Yon-Rogg again, at least we have an idea of why he wasn't in the Marvels. Episode 2: Cool to see the way the managed to connect all characters from the Earth ones to the alien ones like Thor or Mar-Vell (but I think Lawson gave up the info of the Kree easily). About them knowing about Wakanda in the past, I think it's just that they always retcon whaat things were known in the past based on what we already know from the future. In phase 1 it didn't seem like characters knew about Infiity Stones, but in Cap Carter episode there was a book that mention the "space stone" instead of the Tesseract I believe, also Loki in S1 ep 1 knew about the inifinity stones while in theAvengers movie I don't think he ever brought that term at any point. SHIELD being SHIELD in the past, etc... They clearly throw that kind of info because we as an audience already know about it, even if the characters shouldn't know. At least here we could say it was SHIELD who knew. Also I liked that they show Howard being part of Proyect Pegasus so that shows how Lawson makes contact with the Tesseract in 616. Episode 3: It was funny, i liked that they brought Hammer back, the main problem with the main MCU is that they kill most of her villains, but at least here you can see them doing other things. Episode 4: I liked the episode, it was a really funny one, but it was clearly not the one that was scrapped from S1, they didn't explain what was that machine Gamora used in the last episode, they focus only on Grandmaster and not Thanos, I thougth Tony and gamora vs Thanos would be a different episode, not just a last minute scene. Episode 5: Liked how they combined the Winter Soldier plot with the Black Widow lore, I don't think Hydra would save Steve if they were the ones behind Hydra Stomper, they would probably train a new pilot and that's it, but we know less about the Red Room so maybe they would have him in their control. Episode 6: I won't deny it, didn't like that Kahori was just more powerful than everyone that come before her just because she is the main character I guess. I know she left when spanish soldiers were invading so she had the urgency to leave, but maybe they could manage the whole powers thing differently. Episode 7: An interesting Crossover, i was expecting it and I didn't feel disappointed. It was cool to see the Shang Chi cast again, but I'm still waiting for Shang Chi himself. Episode 8: I liked it, I only have 2 problems with it: 1° The trailers spoil you Steve is the one who caused the problem. 2° I honestly didn't get why Cap. Carter was the one destined to save 1602, if it's because she wouldn't give up and will try to help strangers, that also goes for other heroes... Episode 9: Not sure how Kahori knew Strange plans. And I'm not sure of what to think about Strange motivations and the fact that the Watcher suggested he succeded by erasing himself... Wasn't Strange's whole plan to bring back his Christine Palmer, the one that knows him and loves him? The Chrisitine at the end was born in a universe without him so she never met him, never fell in love with him, it's technically a different Christine, so I don't know what he tried to achieve...

Also I sort of think of it as the tiniest change can make a difference; which is why things aren’t always consistent time wise. Like it might not have massively changed enough to cause a ‘what if’ but someone could have just got up an hour earlier one day which lead them to meet someone sooner or something. Does that make sense

Additional comment about episode 8 Hela says that Odin banished her around the time he decided to have Thor. In this episode, she even mentions that Frigga is Odin's new girlfriend. So I am guessing Hela's imprisonment happened around 960 AD, not long before Thor and Loki's birth. Also, we don't know when Wenwu found the Ten Rings, just that it happened ~1000 yeara before the 21st century. So it could have well been 1100. The timeline book is vague in purpose. I think of it as a new piece of lore which will make the timeline book authors re-evaluate the order of events for the second volume.

Heyo! Been a while... Anyways, great video as always, I really enjoyed this season of What If...? and I liked the release strategy a lot, it was like opening a new Christmas present every day. Regarding Korg being in Sakaar in 2012 but in Xandar in 2014, sometimes a fun explanation might just be the right one. I think Korg simply traveled a lot back then, or maybe he lived in Sakaar in 2012 but was on holiday in Xandar in 2014. Either way, I think there are plenty of ways to explain the slight inconsistencies between mainline 616 and these branches (except for that "Wenwu being born 600 years earlier" one, yikes). I loved A.C. Bradley's explanation for why Wasp was in the main Avengers team back in 2012, it's really well thought out. I'm just wondering if there was any reason why Hulk wasn't in the team. Maybe it was like the comics, where they thought of Hulk as being too unstable? There are a lot of ways it could go. One thing to note is that in the present day of the 1602 episode (2018), Hela and Loki could've been alive by 2018. Maybe the branch happened earlier. I don't think we ever get an explicit confirmation by the Watcher that the cause of the branch was Cap hitting the time stone. Maybe in that branch, Hela even became an ally to the Avengers, instead of a villain, which would explain why she and Thor got along during that part of the episode. He even called her his queen, and grieved when she was taken by the portal. It's good to see reinforced that 616 branches are way different than complete universes by Wanda in the 1602 episode, really clears some of the plot holes regarding infinity stones from season 1. I love the idea of episode 9 teasing Secret Wars, it truly introduced so many concepts, and the amount of villain cameos from that episode was epic. In fact, there's a theory that the Hela and Surtur from episode 9 aren't actually from branches, but instead, regular 616. It basically says that the green light that came from Hela in Ragnarok could've been Strange grabbing her and Surtur from a point where they both were in the same place and could grab two at once. It also explains the reaction Hela and Surtur had when they saw each other (the "YOU!"), which would make sense considering they pretty much died because of one another. One thing I did notice this season was that the ending of episodes made some of the universes actually better than 616. Examples being: •The Avengers being formed in the 80s, meaning that they're much better prepared from the beginning and the team is allowed to grow even further as more super-people start showing up (plus, the Winter Soldier didn't continue being a weapon, therefore Howard doesn't die in 1991). •Iron Man and Gamora killing Thanos back in 2012, which means that Age of Ultron doesn't happen (Tony doesn't have alien PTSD and therefore doesn't want to wrap the world in a suit of armor), and Infinity War doesn't happen because there is no Thanos. •HYDRA not being able to continue growing after the 40s thanks to Bucky and Cap, which means that S.H.I.E.L.D. doesn't get infiltrated. •Kahhori's universe achieving world peace back in the 1500s, which implies a period of prosperity and possibly no conflict or slavery. •Hela and Wenwu forming an alliance ages ago, becoming protectors of the universe and destroying intergalactic threats like Thanos. In fact, I don't think any episodes this season ended with tragedies, which was in sharp contrast to season 1 where: Ego attacked Earth and likely succeeded, most of the Avengers were killed by Hank Pym, Doctor Strange lost his entire reality, zombies overtook the planet, Killmonger killed Iron Man, War Machine AND T'Challa; and Ultron became a multiverse destroyer. Yeah, quite the contrast. Finally, interestingly enough, they dropped a teaser for What If...? season 3 even BEFORE season 2 had finished, with Bucky and Red Guardian back in the 80s, which I find strange but intriguing. Does that mean we're getting season 3 sooner than we thought? Or is it another "Iron Man on Sakaar'' situation, where this one was meant to be part of season 2 but they couldn't finish it? Either way, the breakdown was great, hope you've had a nice Christmas and New Year, keep up the amazing work!

As Why Carter Can Hear And See The Watcher I Think It’s Probably Just An Exposure Thing Where Once You See Or Hear Him Once You Can Do It Again And The More Time Your Exposed To Him The Better You Can See Or Hear Him.

The show was really good. Still have hope MCU will bounce back to good ol' days

In the comics every universe has its own version of the Watcher.

25:10 THANK YOU!!! I honestly could care less about the variant shenanigans at this point I just want to know more about the lore of the multiverse! I sense it coming soon though…. I hope

Last episode was rly good! I love the messy battlefield, and i hope we can have something similar and better for secret wars

Excited for Eyes of Wakanda and Season 3!

31:34 i always assumed that of thor's siblings were half siblings. cause In Ragnarok, we never ever seen Frigga at all during flashbacks

If you look at the arrangement of the Hawkeye toys one of them has been taken so I guess Kate Bishop was the only person to buy one

Howard's classic!!

To me for how Peggy could hear The Watcher is you eather have to be full/part celestial like Star Lord at the end of season 1 or met/interacted with him before hand or like in Doctor Strange Supreme's case absorbing all these magical demons/monsters.

Finale bit rushed and wish they explained how supreme strange's grief control him

Proud to make this my first RU-vid video of the new year 😎

I got so happy at seeing the wasp she been my favorite avenger since the cartoon idk why

16:07 so i think the reason tony didn't fall though the portal is because in the sacred timeline he used his suit parts to accelerate his fall but in the episode he didn't do it. (I sent a video on the theories channel on discord a while back if you're interested)

I remain unconvinced about the whole tree being 616 I still see it as each strand it’s it’s own universe and 616 is just one of those specifically the one that HWR chose. I think it’s interesting that lokis tree doesn’t have like an origin point. the timelines seem to be totally independent strands