What If TF2 Maps Had NO Invisible Walls? 

At first I imagined this being "all invisible walls made visible" and seeing the depressing claustrophobia of familiar maps turned into restrictive box-like arenas

12:44 "Aand you can... take people's orders like a McDonald's, I dunno" ok but like now I can actually see a bunch of hoovies sitting there handing out lunchbox items

Finally! Now we can go into that big monitor room in 2Fort that was seen at the beginning of Meet the Spy.

Tf3, now featuring a new open-world campaign.

ngl that 2fort edit looks like it would be hella fun if it was touched up to look normal (EDIT: and got some balance fixing), probably more fun than normal 2fort

Between this and breakable 2fort, I REALLY want to see a modified version of 2fort without as many boundries and with the extensions made to blue that red already has. Add and remove some collision and texures and throw a whole server at it.

Invisible walls are the worst. For example- that one above Upward's first point that completely blocks you from stickeyjumping way behind the enemy.

“Anywhere you can see you can go” Me: M o u n t I n s?! Edit: I mostly meant I could go on the mountains and others can extreme ranch o or grapple hook there because grapple in community servers

"We're back with the only series where you can take the camera, wherever you want. And we try to find secret in all our favourite games" wait, wrong RU-vidr

I love how he rate the new locations by how good an engineer sentry would be there

Fun fact: You can see all this WITH the usual props in SFM since SFM does not limit you as much as TF2 does.

open 2fort would make an AMAZING garys mod map with all the textures touched up. just that massive, flat desert around this little, engineery complex. with garages. and a river. its perfect!

Alternative title: "TF2 but learning to rocket jump pays off"

me: opens map walks out of spawn gets hit with a barrage of sentry bullets on the roofs respawns game crashes

"You may notice the hole to the center of brazil"

Seeing these maps kinda fills me with a feeling of sadness. The fact that developers had a lot of visions for the game then ended up abandoning it really hits weird. The TF2 universe in general is just so awesome and it makes me sad thinking what the game could've been if valve actually cared. Animated movies, updates, hell even a TF2 TV show. Man.

0:00 - Introduction 1:35 - ctf_2fort 15:13 - cp_well 25:04 - cp_granary 30:04 - ctf_sawmill 35:40 - Outro

2Fort actually looks enjoyable... what in the hell

I kinda wanna see a regular match played on some of these maps

this takes spy's voiceline "Off to visit your mother" to a whole new level

Imagine if Valve made us see the whole story of tf2 but ingame

Alternative title: great blue discovers open maps

This is going to be hilarious on a community server

Imagine if this man remove every invisible wall in wutvile.

if this was an april fools video, you would remove the invisible walls by making them visible

No one: Blue: THIS WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT FOR A SENTRY!

0:40 those are "area portal" and not used at all for clip, but for the portal system and you should never, really never disable it

someone needs to show this to soundsmith he'd love the sawmill also could you do sawmill i think its the coolest one and its like the most fixable

as much i hate playing on 2fort . i still have so much love to the feel and look and atmosphere of the map . some of the old sfm's and gmod on 2fort give me nostalgic warm feeling toward the map it reminded me of old tf2 before we forgot what art style and theme mean and start adding too much . we did not stop and think . should we add meme hat or bad maps ? no we should not (tf2 need quality control for sure) . 2fort look make me wish we got single player tf2 game . i love the spy base under 2forts and wish we did that (you know . like 60's war conspiracy and the game will be before the gray man attacked mann co )

These spots at blu's intel on 2forts look so comfy for me and I don't know why where download

please if you have time. flesh out these maps. a less choke point less sniper hell two fort would be amazing.

3:52 funning thing is, is that he sentry can detect enemies through the crack from the spiral door from outside so its almost as if we were supposed to go up there at one point

This is really interesting. I'm considering taking 2fort and doing this but spending a much longer time polishing it up since you did multiple maps.

My life as a demoknight would be 100x easier, I can tell you that

Our lord and saviour amazing red has uploaded once again

Shoulda added Magenta textures to the untexed stuff, would stand out more.

pro tip: when doing any kind of video with source maps - because youtube and twitch compression "love" darkness, a good command to learn is "mat_fullbright 1" which will allow you to light up all surfaces and objects completely.

11:13 "I would love to see this in actual gameplay." - Look up AceTheOcarinaMaker's video "2fort but it's DESTRUCTIBLE!", thank me later. Also, no one ever will because it's not worth the effort, but I'd enjoy seeing a 2Fort World map where the map is just 2Fort, but with the invisible walls removed and *everything* modeled. All the spots that are like "Oh, we didn't model this because you're not supposed to see it." are filled in, and let's say that barn way out in the distance? Make that a real-ass barn that you can go to and be inside, and it has full collision and everything. Is that barn useful for gameplay purposes? Heck no. But it's interesting to look at. Also maybe add some extra props so classes other than Soldier, Demoman, and to a lesser extent Engineer and Scout can actually get around.

5:15 i remember that on Xbox360 you could somehow crouch on the stairs while going up and than you glitched out and you were able to put a tele exit there. After one person did it the whole srver went friendly and we built dispensers on the rooftops. you can do this on both sides and its super fun! you can even build a sentry on the rooftop and they cant kill it for some reason the invisible wall blocks their bullets or projectiles( i dont remember wich one) but the sentry can shoot them without a problem!

Oh boy I sure do love the pile of wood room What a great room It has a pile of wood or two And a door Man what a nice room Yep, that's a pretty swell room.

Maybe I can finally leave the battlefield and make a life selling Milk, as my Scout has an infinite reply that somehow replenishes itself, I might also sell the Balls from his Melee weapons.

25:28 "As long as it doesn't cause problems, it should be fine." - Great Blue, 2021

"basically i just deleted every clip and player clip brush" ...this is going to be one of those days

Great vid bro :)

Damn, I learned a lot of new things about the Hammer editor (the first thing being that it exists), thank you!

Considering there's already free 2fort, I think sawmill would he the most interesting.

"Because of the holes here it's a whole lot harder to camp here"

You should make a 3rd one of these, this is so entertaining to watch, I'll definately be showing some of my friends these videos. Hope you grow more because this is awesome :)

Someone needs to do a polishing of all these maps with this concept, would be very interesting.

Invisible walls and glass keep Soldiers, Demo, and Engi in check. It is pretty interesting and says a lot about balance, that these classes would arguably be OP, especially Engi as unless you make these areas all unbuildable you have hidden teleporters for your team that a spy can't find or a Sentry a spy can't reach. Heavies can't get close to do effective damage, so this leaves Soldiers and Demos if you position well.

This one’s so nostalgic to me. When I was a kid with the orange box on xbox 360, TF2 had a bunch of modders. If you joined their lobbies, they often had custom stuff going on. Especially modded 2fort with less boundaries. I remember all the cheesy building spots I had. Specifically behind the windows of the control point I’d put a tele and dispenser too. There was even more crazy stuff, though. For example, super powered classes, infinite spy cloak, infinite crit mini gun, super engineer quick building. But also, if you joined their lobby, you’d be able to use voice lines with the dpad, which you normally can’t do.

this was a really awesome video. if you were to make more (which i really hope you do) id love to see maybe a few maps like junction. I wonder if much would change route wise on that map.

This video was really cool. Good work man!

You are an extremely underrated youtuber man, I hope your channel blows up big one day, and we can all celebrate the dub with a party

god imagine all of the engineers putting sentries in the ceiling

I think upward could be pretty wacky if you remove all the death barriers on the cliffs

Sawmill with the open-ness you gave it would be a BLESSING to play on. Please do that one.

I love the opening in the roof on 2fort, always fun to jump up there with air strike solder and unload a clip onto a sentry nest

Great video, would love to see more!

Amazing unique video, good job dude

Really cool idea. It's almost surreal seeing you jump onto the roofs!

The 2fort part just reminds me of old days of playing xbox tf2 and doing medic needle jumps and teleporter glitches to be able to go out of bounds, was some fun times

Nice to see another hammer++ user, keep up the good work!

this was really really cool, and would really enjoy playing these either on trade maps or community servers. Think saw mill was my fav would be so much fun to market garden specially if you raise the ceiling and finally rancho relax in places as god intended

i'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but theres a map called 2fort revamped and it adds a way to get into that small room on the ceiling with the diagonal windows in the intel room

*10:17** It's over, Anakin! I have the high ground!*

The room with the big map is probably the only way a single player can take out the high ground sentries if the player enters it through that hallway window so it definitely has a purpose

22:38 you actually used to be able to build up there when TF2 first came out i have fond memories of building ontop of the central tower opposite to the rocket. this was way back then when we had no wranglers, and could not even pick up our buildings, we had to place buildings in specific areas and use them to place teleporters up onto higher ones just to get up there.

i like the fact that the train changes from a dev textured brush to an actual train at 16:41 well i guess it was just a nodraw brush before but its still funny

I’ve been searching for a video like this for ages

Awesome video as always! Could you make this like a series?

I saw this and I was like "so the inferior map expanded series" which does literally this but makes the collision the actual map border lol

My inner map maker's heart is hurting... you just removed all of it... some of it is there for a reason... and it's gone. i love it

I remember someone did a game of destroyable 2fort. Sentries were hell

Omg I *LOVE* this version of it way more, looks way more alive and intristing

that long room with the terminals would be a really good place to put a teleporter... for the enemy team.

Awesome work, new sub

The blocked off parts of 2fort actually look like unfinished areas, so it isn’t hard to imagine that with some tweaking it could look like a complete map.

I used to play on a server all the time that had an open Tuefort map called "Engi-powered", it utilized lots of the newly opened spaces well to make the map much more balanced. I wish I remembered what server it was, it was always popular but then it died :(

I would love to see a community server hosting cleaned up versions of some of these opened maps.

This is actually a really good idea, it would be a pretty good series.

I've seen a video about a destructable 2Fort (and pretty sure they did it to other maps). They made all props solid and fixed a lot of things. Then the players could break windows and stuff and use those areas (like the rooms by the Intel room)

I'm sure there is comments that have pointed this out, but there is a map called "Destructible 2fort" which open the same areas in the intel room but also you can break certain walls to hide or put a sneaky sentry. And the map-maker(s) made non-colidable objects, colidable. Go try it out!

Nobody: Great Blue: You could put a Sentry in here.

I remember looking at all the maps in the custom server thing and seeing a map like this. Theres a map in the base game thats like this but with extra litte things added. So its cool to see the normal map with mo boundaries

23:27 Time for the ultimate market garden.

The black lines all over the ground is a rendering error with displacements.

Im glad that i came across ur channel

I can finally relax on my lawn chair in the bong room. Nice

this was a fine video, great even. But as soon as I saw that off-center door I became enraged (well, irritated is more accurate, but that doesn't change my message).

They don’t even know that we were getting up to these skyboxes and then over these fences in 2007 with the medics needle jump boost while we frantically tried to balance being thrust upward and place a teleporter exit on the one tiny spot in the skybox

playerclips are sometimes used to smooth surfaces like stairs, but finding and deselecting those would take some time +areaportals don't hide anything that you can see

I would love that updated 2fort map! It wouldn't be so damn stalematey with all the additional routes to get intel

Would live too see this again with mvm maps!

those server rooms are so cozy

Seeing 2fort without boundaries remains me of tf2 on the Xbox 360

Why How And most inportantly Where, is the download

I've always wanted to visit the cargo ship at the dockyard you can view from Upward.

Wall-less 2fort..... Takes me back to the xbox 360 days, jellyhopping through the long rock hall stairway down to intel

Removing All Clipping Brushes is a very bad idea for complicated map designes