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What if the ISLAMIC Conquests FAILED |Alternate History 

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In this Alternative history video we will investigate a world in which the Sassanid/Persian and Byzantine/Roman Empires overcome the Arab invasions in the early 7th century. Muhammad's religion of Islam remains just antother offsoot of the larger Abrahamic faiths.
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@historyrhymes1701
@historyrhymes1701 2 года назад
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@abolfazlabasnatj2319
@abolfazlabasnatj2319 20 часов назад
What if persia resisted heraclus Like how rome resisted hannibal
@mperorsimonthegreat3920
@mperorsimonthegreat3920 2 года назад
Imagine how heraclius felt. He spent 2 decades in trying to restore Rome's borders and when he finally succeeded the Muslims arrived. Excellent video!
@yoghurtmaster1688
@yoghurtmaster1688 2 года назад
A trolling was done
@gabrielseaborn257
@gabrielseaborn257 2 года назад
@@yoghurtmaster1688 Muslims: “We do a little trolling”
@125discipline2
@125discipline2 2 года назад
@@gabrielseaborn257 i think that was one gigantic trolling..
@thedstorm8922
@thedstorm8922 2 года назад
Lol killing the envoy was his biggest mistake Most of empires end because they kill envoys
@Austin_Schulz
@Austin_Schulz 2 года назад
It's really the only reason the Muslims beat the Byzantines. They were severely weakened by war.
@jairiske
@jairiske 2 года назад
This would also have big ramifications with East Africa. The Nubian kingdoms would be able to maintain contact with Rome and would remain Christian and not fall to Islam in the 15th century. Ethiopia would also be more connected to the rest of the Christian world. Perhaps Ethiopia wouldn't have been driven into the interior and have been able to expand and spread their influence.
@kinggundragon3728
@kinggundragon3728 2 года назад
Ethiopia might have untied a good chunk of Africa had Rome not fell. As long as they could have kept good relations with rome they would have been free to head south without fear of invasion from the north. Also all the money coming in from trade ports between rome and china
@alespoljansek1563
@alespoljansek1563 10 месяцев назад
​@@kinggundragon3728yeah and it would also have influence in Arabia because prior to the rise of Islam the kingdom of Axum (Ethiopia) had territory in parts of Arabian peninsula
@flemishnationalist-prayfor9809
@flemishnationalist-prayfor9809 2 года назад
There are a few other things I want to mention: - North Africa, the Levant and Mesopotamia would still be speaking Coptic, Berber and Aramaic. - Charlemagne (if he would even exist) would never he crowned emperor by the pope, meaning the Holy Roman Empire would just remain East Francia. - the Balkans would probably still fall to the Slavs. There is no way the Byzantines could have stopped hundreds of Slavic tribes. - the Muslim Persian states would never exist and thus never use Turkic mercenaries, meaning the Turks would never conquer Iran, and thus the Caucasus and Anatolia.
@historyrhymes1701
@historyrhymes1701 2 года назад
Yes, those are valid points that I considered as well. The slavs did arrive in overwhelming numbers and were extremely spread out. So much so that the Balkan cities of the empire were practically Greek and Latin islands in a Slavic Sea. However, I believe that the early disintegration of the Avar khaganate and the fact that the empire wouldn't have to deal with the existential threat of the Muslim caliphate was would enable it to put efforts into integrating the Slavic tribes.
@antoniomariamacri7500
@antoniomariamacri7500 2 года назад
Is it possible that the Zoroastrian Persia would steel hire the turks just for need of mercenaries?
@flemishnationalist-prayfor9809
@flemishnationalist-prayfor9809 2 года назад
@@antoniomariamacri7500 actually yes.
@Assyrian_edit87
@Assyrian_edit87 2 года назад
@@historyrhymes1701 السلام عليكم هل يمكننى القيام بتعاون
@henrykkeszenowicz4664
@henrykkeszenowicz4664 2 года назад
@@antoniomariamacri7500 There might be a chance that the Turks would become Zoroastrian too, though.
@fanisalefragis313
@fanisalefragis313 2 года назад
Great video. The creation of the Islamic faith was a great turning point in history and the alternative version where it wasn't is a very interesting concept.
@unistavanjesquarediagonal2687
@unistavanjesquarediagonal2687 2 года назад
By the will of Allah, muslims won
@o.nshome677
@o.nshome677 2 года назад
Strange how something as insignificant as ordering an army to winter in a certain place changes the course of world history immensely
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 2 года назад
Or he gets assassinated anyway. we don't know the details only what was written.
@iDeathMaximuMII
@iDeathMaximuMII Год назад
@@Litany_of_Fury The most of what we know is that Maurice had himself to blame for the revolts against him. While he was a good Emperor, he just didn't have the money to do much. The fact that he ended the Persian War with territorial gain was only thanks to Khosrow II showing up at his door for help What he did against the Avars & Slavs was incredible as well. But the Army & some of his own people even warned him to not cut the Army's salaries. So instead as a comprise, he has them winter over the Danube in winter. Crazy
@alessandrogini5283
@alessandrogini5283 Год назад
@@iDeathMaximuMII there Is not more that he could done.. maybe should had made more pressure on kosroe the First to aid him in recapture the Throne,as receive a kind of pretorian guard made by Persian nobles fanatically loyal to mauricius.. logistic was everything, and hit the enemy in the Winter season was esactly what arborgaste did against the Franks..or maybe support the usurper killing cosroe,knowing that now the usurper Need to consolidated his rule, and others civil war could be sparked,but in Exchange for Money and Land to the support..
@zippyparakeet1074
@zippyparakeet1074 Год назад
@@iDeathMaximuMII The treasury was empty even before his accession. Tiberius was very reckless with the money, he reduced taxes at a time when the empire needed money, gave away a lot of cash to the plebs to buy popularity, paid off the Avars, paid a huge amount of money to the Lombards and the Sassanids and raised new armies which required more payment (these would be the same armies to revolt against Maurice), he also raised the pay of the army which was just dumb. Although I forget if it was him or Justin II. Regardless, the point is that Maurice had inherited a bankrupt and seriously overextended Empire and made do with what he had while trying to salvage the situation which he was largely successful at.
@alexanderi1183
@alexanderi1183 2 года назад
Then Zoroastrinism would still be a dominant religion.
@i_likemen5614
@i_likemen5614 2 года назад
No Christianity would
@jiyakuches220
@jiyakuches220 Год назад
True, no muslims only makes Christians more dominant in Europe and beyond while Zoroastrinism remains dominant but Persia
@felipeurrea3638
@felipeurrea3638 2 месяца назад
​@@i_likemen5614jajajja the persians worship ahura mazda not christ
@volbound1700
@volbound1700 2 года назад
I disagree on the part about the Western Empire being so successful, although it would rebound, it would find the Visigoths harder to break, would have to deal with Lombards, and eventually the Franks and Germanic Tribes. I see the Franks, perhaps, winning that war unless the Eastern Empire comes to their aid. The rest, sounds about accurate. I do think the Sassanids would struggle to survive after 1000 A.D. when the Turks would enter the Middle East just like in our timeline. Removing the Arabs also empowers Ethopia. If not for Islam, Ethopia may have conquered Arabia. That wasn't really addressed well in the video.
@ivokantarski6220
@ivokantarski6220 2 года назад
The western part may just succeed for a few more centuries. In late 7th century Bulgaria pressed on the East Roman heart land and its capital was under threat from time to time so maybe Italy wouldnt be able to remain under control. I assume Bulgaria wouldn't pressure the East Roman empire so badly as soon as it did but if it's not standing directly blocking others from looting Roman land then later the Magyar arrival would definately become a problem that the 4th century Germanic tribes werent comparable to. If Bulgaria and the Magyars can allie for the common good which is to press south of the Danude then that will be a problem the size of the Atilla invasions. Through much more focused on the balkan territories and they may become free rela estate. The Roman legions werent fast enough to deal with Bulgaria let alone the combined effort of both cavalry forces which vastly outnumber Roman cavalry and were far better at mobile warfare. Rome will likely survive its downfall maybe till today or maybe at least for many centuries afterwards. Such scenario is so hard to predict the future.
@djavanalderromero
@djavanalderromero 2 года назад
yeah he skipped india and indonesia. Even china would be affected.
@Zeyede_Seyum
@Zeyede_Seyum Год назад
The Third Ethiopian empire when?
@Maxzes_
@Maxzes_ Год назад
Ethiopia would’ve probably just conquered and secured their control in Yemen, and maybe influence southern Arabia. I doubt it would conquer ALL of Arabia, if you meant it literally. I do agree thiugh that a bunch of “What if Islam never existed” videos don’t cover how Africa would be affected, and I, for one, would probably see Somalia never existing.
@joshtaylor9626
@joshtaylor9626 Год назад
The Turks wouldn’t have been Muslim in this timeline though so they would have been different so that changes the time line abut and also what religion the mongols change to I think they would have adopted Orthodox christianity in this time line because it would have had a bigger role then Islam in this timeline and also Zoroastrianism wouldn’t have been as successful as the Christian which would have rebelled more then the Persian
@tonit4233
@tonit4233 2 года назад
Maurice is really underrated. I believe that he was also the first fully ethnically Greek Roamn Emperor
@iDeathMaximuMII
@iDeathMaximuMII Год назад
Ethnically maybe. But Justin II was the first native Greek speaker for the Empire. His Latin was barely passable I read
@zippyparakeet1074
@zippyparakeet1074 Год назад
Ethnically Greek is a very iffy definition. He was born in Cappadocia which is in Asia Minor near Syria. Although he was a native Greek speaker, his Latin was also pretty good due to his military background. (the military used Latin even after the reign of Heraclius).
@mikekolokowsky
@mikekolokowsky Год назад
Some people call me Maurice, because I speak with the Pompitice of Love.
@rest1tutor693
@rest1tutor693 2 года назад
The Justinian Plague and the Gothic War left Italy depopulated and invaluable. Nearly all of it’s urban centres became irrelevant, and nearly all of it’s infrastructure was destroyed. It would require undertaking a massive, daring effort by the Western Roman Empire to reconquer all of Italy and Hispania, especially with the little wealth and manpower they had outside of Africa. However, the Western Roman Empire wouldn’t have to suffer with the religious unrest on the likes of that in the Eastern Roman Empire, as Africa, Italy snd Hispania were predominantly adherents to Chalcedonian Christianity.
@tlhockey
@tlhockey Год назад
Visigothic Spain seems to have been knocked out by a stiff breeze. Given time to recover, and no cataclysmic war against the Persian/Avars/Caliphates, the Roman's seem poised to entrench and expand in the West without too much effort. Drawing upon the recovering resources of Hispania, Africa, Egypt, Syria and Palestine could help make up for the difficulties they saw against the Lombards in Italy.
@infinite682
@infinite682 Год назад
by this time, although the churche was beginning to show some signs of schism and unrest, both the eastern and the hypothetical western rome of this timeline would remain chalcedonian
@juniorjames7076
@juniorjames7076 Год назад
Funny, no one seems to really talk about the trauma those final decades of war the Byzantine and Persians left on the Arab mercenary tribes. It was an Apocalyptic age in every sense, and this Byzantine General Heraclius had to create a spiritual/psycological/metaphysical culture of....well, for lack of a better term...Holy War! The aftermath of which may have planted the seeds for an off-shoot extremist Judeo-Christian military cult manifesting into Islam. Just a theory.
@angamaitesangahyando685
@angamaitesangahyando685 4 месяца назад
​@@juniorjames7076That's a position of Richard Carrier. - Adûnâi
@xydya
@xydya 2 года назад
Despite the accent, the pronunciation is perfect and the content even moreso. Awesome new creator, thanks to Mr. Z for the new sub.
@viddobrisek6953
@viddobrisek6953 2 года назад
The video is produced quite well but i disagree on a few points: - I don't think that the Byzantines had enough strenght to defeat the Avars and if they did another tribe/power might replace them. -You vastly overestimate the Byzantine holdings in the western balkans. By this point they only controled the adriatic coastline with some inland forts/towns, but they didn't have firm control over them. Location of Sirmium is also wrong. - The great Persian-Roman war might have been avoided but the rivarly would never stop. Both hated each other and the Persians wanted to take Egypt, the Levant and Anatolia. - By this point Italy was so depopulated and exhausted from decades of war that restoration of the western empire was not likely. Also Africa was a very rich province and the east would never give it up.
@historyrhymes1701
@historyrhymes1701 2 года назад
Valid points but I mildly disagree with some of them. 1 Africa was not the breadbasket it used to be in Antiquity. The cold climate made the region drier and less fertile. Plus Maurice gave Africa more autonomy with the creation of the exarchate as he realized that Constantinople was not capable of exercising full control over it. In fact Africa nearly succeeded in the 640s under a governor named Gregory. 2. Byzantium still exercised control over the interior of the Balkans until at least the 630s. 3 .while depopulated Italy still had a significant population. The future papal states and Sicily alone probably had a larger population than the entirety of Britania at the time.
@viddobrisek6953
@viddobrisek6953 2 года назад
@@historyrhymes1701 Africa and Italy are debatable but im certain that the Byzantines didn't control eastern Slovenia, Croatian Slavonia and northern Bosnia. Emona, Poetovia, Atrans were all destroyed during the 5th century and roman power never returned. Slavonia was under Avar rule. Byzantines controled the Dalmatian coastline, Istria and Slovenia up to where the Claustra line once was. Avars also controled most of moder hungary and the alpine slavs were under their vassalage. Sources for this mostly come from Archeology due to written sources being almost not existant for this time period/area.
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 2 года назад
@@viddobrisek6953 never returned? perhaps "romans" never returned. but roman influence did, definitely under Basil II.
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 2 года назад
@@viddobrisek6953 nothing was said about what the avars controlled in this video. half your comment is therefore useless
@El-Silver
@El-Silver 2 года назад
1) i think they did Maurice campaings ended in 602 were strong enough that when Phocas pulled a number of troops from the balkans in 605 after dara fell the avars did not attack , in fact the avars did not join the war after the eastern army was anihlated in antioch in 613 and Heraclius pulled almost all balkan forces from the empire , in fact the siege of Constantinople in 626 was likely a desperate act of the avar khagan trying to get a great victory to unite his declining realm , this can be shown as when he lost the avar khagante fell in to futher decline so much so that Samo a merchant turned king with some slavs rebelled against them and won multiple victories. So Mauirce campaings made the dabube secure and the avar khagante decline as seen by their defeat in Constantinople they were one major defeat from becoming irrelevant as major power.
@cynfaelalek-walker7003
@cynfaelalek-walker7003 2 года назад
The True title of the video should be "what if the Romans and Persians didn't go to war for 700 years"
@AryanXvaday
@AryanXvaday 2 года назад
Ask Crassus
@ManiacMayhem7256
@ManiacMayhem7256 2 года назад
@@AryanXvaday the first gold teeth
@KGF-zf2qj
@KGF-zf2qj 2 года назад
Romans and Persians united against the Muslims in the battle of Alfradh and got defeated by Muslims. Let’s be realistic in that time Arabs were unbeatable military force just like every other civilization on its peak.
@cynfaelalek-walker7003
@cynfaelalek-walker7003 2 года назад
@@KGF-zf2qj Before The Muslim Invasion, there was a Mini Ice Age in the two empires, they both endured Turkic and nomadic migrations, in addition they were fighting each other vehemently, heraclius reclaimed the Asian and African territories after a decade of Persian rule, and the Arabs had served in all the Romano-Persian Wars and were recently united, the Romans and Persians that fought together were not cohesive armies, just patches, most of them didn't even show up for a fight!
@KGF-zf2qj
@KGF-zf2qj 2 года назад
@@cynfaelalek-walker7003 Non the less they were the super power of their times and Persians beats the turks while Romans beats Slavs and Hungarians why they couldn’t beat The nomadic Arab while even in their most weakened state are able to beat other nomads
@saf4433
@saf4433 2 года назад
African Latin would still exist
@MartyBones
@MartyBones 2 года назад
Call me biased but, this looks like an amazing alternate option to our timeline... Great video once more!
@bakthihapuarachchi3447
@bakthihapuarachchi3447 2 года назад
No algebra!!!!
@yousuf6382
@yousuf6382 2 года назад
@k. .invented by an Uzbek who studied at an Arab university..and presented by Arab civilization to the world
@yousuf6382
@yousuf6382 2 года назад
@k. Your information from Wikipedia which has Persian admins ! In fact, Al-Khwarizmi was a Turk-Uzbek from Uzbekistan.. He studied at the House of Wisdom (an Arab university) and all his researches and books were in Arabic + his culture and language were Arabic.. NOT Persian Most of the notable scientists were Arabs (Fathers of Sciences) NOT Persian All the university was built by the Arabs (Al-Azhar - House of Wisdom - Al-Qarawiyyin - Al-Zaytouna) NOT Persians When the Arab Caliphate fell, the golden age ended Literally, most of the scholars were from the Arabs, the peoples of Central Asia (the Turks, the Khwarizmians, etc.), the Berbers and the Iberians.. The Persians were very few. The Persians when they were an empire did not create a golden age throughout their history! They had no books, alphabet or knowledge.. Why did the Persians not have a golden age when they were an empire?
@yousuf6382
@yousuf6382 2 года назад
@k. The Greeks borrowed their knowledge from the Semites and Egyptians .. But you cannot deny the cultural and scientific role of the Arabs in the Middle Ages.
@yousuf6382
@yousuf6382 2 года назад
@k. "most people were Persians" LOL ! are you persian ? Actuality, you are reading persian nationalism citations No, they weren't Persian! Al-andalus was the greatest Islamic civilization that was not Persian.. The fathers of sciences are mostly Arabs.. Islamic philosophy was founded by the Arabs (Al-Kindi) Most "the people" are Arabs and Turks from Central Asia, Iberians and Berbers..even were leaders and generals from them Why did the Persians not invent this invention at the time of their empire?
@diegoragot655
@diegoragot655 2 года назад
@Bulgarian Empire Mapping I wish You could do a classic video of "History of (region of The world) Every year"
@Kingofportals
@Kingofportals 2 года назад
A world of Zoroastrianism vs Christianity!
@patriotofpersia2238
@patriotofpersia2238 2 года назад
Zoroastrianism is peaceful religion
@Kingofportals
@Kingofportals 2 года назад
@@patriotofpersia2238 It is unfortunate that the religion was nearly completely wiped out by Islam.
@goldenwolf2754
@goldenwolf2754 2 года назад
@@patriotofpersia2238 no is not
@pixistypses5406
@pixistypses5406 2 года назад
@@patriotofpersia2238 yes yes, just how people got burned on the stakes for not accepting that religion
@iSyriux
@iSyriux 2 года назад
@@pixistypses5406 Reminds me of islam
@Ali-bu6lo
@Ali-bu6lo 2 года назад
Good video, though this is basically a "What if Mohammad never existed" scenario. A more different video would have been if Arabs were contained west of Zagros and a Sassanid state had survived in Iranian heartland similar to the Byzantines.
@sirrykr1679
@sirrykr1679 Год назад
Mohammed probably never existed in real life. Islam is a made up religion like all others.
@Jerald_witcher
@Jerald_witcher 2 месяца назад
As a persian i see this as an absolute win
@user-kh8yl2lr7v
@user-kh8yl2lr7v Месяц назад
But it did not happen and Islam is still spreading against your will
@user-cs3tw7nd8x
@user-cs3tw7nd8x Месяц назад
​@@user-kh8yl2lr7v in secolele urmatoare lumea va fi tot mai atee si agnostica vremea relijiilor monoteiste se cam duce
@user-cs3tw7nd8x
@user-cs3tw7nd8x Месяц назад
Persia a fost o mare civilizatie cind era venerat zeul Ahuramazda sau Ormuzd in elenă numele sau este Ormuzd de aici vine numele Hormizda .Asta intre anii 558 330 i en .in 331 Alexandros Megas sau Sicandar cucereste orientul persan de la un capat la altulajunji in Bactriana si Suguda apoi in Barata .se raspindeste e,enismul in Asia In 221 651 avem regatul Sasanid ,o alta Persie .Cu Ardasir Sapuŕ si Anusirvan .La Ahemenizi erau CIRUS CAMBISE DARIUS XERXES SI ARTAXERXES ,ULTIMUL IN 465 424 I E N Asta gasim la BEROES HERODOTUS ZENO ORIBASIE ARRIAN SI ALȚII.SUPERBE ORASE ECBATANE SUSA PERSEPOLIS SI HECATOMPIL. DUPA 651PERSIA NU VA CUNOASTE O ASEMENEA GLORIE DAR VA DA LUMII POETI GENIALI PRECUM RUMI JAMI SAADI HAIAM RUDAKI FIRDOUSI HAFEZ SI TOT AȘA .CULTURA PERSANA FACE PARTE DIN TEZAURUL CULTURII MONDIALE LA UN NIVEL CU CELE DIN ROMA ELLADA KINA BIZANȚ SI APUSUL EUROPEI
@trapbeibe
@trapbeibe 2 года назад
Amazing video bröther
@erhtm3030
@erhtm3030 2 года назад
Good accent, i can't understand most of American/English channels but i do understand Slavs. Greetings from Costa Rica
@DesertFoxWITHAFREAKINGKNIFE
"What if Islamic conquests failed" Egyptians and Phoenicians on the background,not bowing down to the Arabs: *party music* Arabs,unable to civilize without a proper leader and a more centralized religion and army: *arabic swearing with desert sounds* Assyrians on their way to revive their empire: Jews not getting kicked out of their homeland and finally not living like garbage in all of Europe: Indians of all Hindus Valley finally not getting apart from their brothers because of religion,cuz everyone now hinduist: Turkics getting kicked out from Anatolia and Caucasus due to staying as nomads,and creating instead a empire in Steppes,never countering Byzantines or Armenians: By the anyway,history would majorily change,mate.
@user-dl5ln3wd6f
@user-dl5ln3wd6f Год назад
The reason Assyrians and Phoenicians builded an empire because of the weakness of Iran and Anatolia during their times, without high birth rate they won't be able to be independented from them ever again. And jews weren't kicked out by Muslims and the current jews aren't even the ancestors of Solomon but Khazars From Russia.
@shuvosaha6237
@shuvosaha6237 Год назад
that sounds like a paradise,ngl.
@iaw7406
@iaw7406 Год назад
zoroastrianism and other iranian religions would be major
@P1utia
@P1utia Год назад
However for the cases of Arabs, they would have been Nestorian or Zoroastrianist sooner and this means we would have more Arab Christians in the Western Arabia and a sizeable Zoroastrian Arab population in the east including majority of the Gulf countries, hence we would have a different geopolitical focus now as Islamism and Sharia didnt exist.
@mariabop
@mariabop 7 месяцев назад
And I would still be speaking Aramaic
@androtchitchinadze3450
@androtchitchinadze3450 2 года назад
Amazing! Bravo to you for making such a badass video! It would also be interesting if you made a video, about What if the Turkification of Anatolia Failed. Cheers from Georgia!
@tigin11
@tigin11 2 года назад
dreams
@androtchitchinadze3450
@androtchitchinadze3450 2 года назад
@@tigin11 ?
@kasadam85
@kasadam85 2 года назад
@@androtchitchinadze3450 What if hellenization was successful and permanent would be more interesting.
@k.umquat8604
@k.umquat8604 2 года назад
@@androtchitchinadze3450that's just some turkish nationalist....
@aleksandarmanojlovic4988
@aleksandarmanojlovic4988 2 года назад
nice video but I just want to see a sequel to this
@kurade1096
@kurade1096 Год назад
A better world...
@skp8748
@skp8748 Год назад
Lool no science
@P1utia
@P1utia 10 месяцев назад
@@skp8748Lol, Science has nothing to do with Islam for crying out loud, as there are other powers having science themselves that are not Islamic
@Dripxxl-i4k
@Dripxxl-i4k 10 месяцев назад
​@@P1utiaThe app you are using was made by a Muslim
@ze_kangz932
@ze_kangz932 9 месяцев назад
​@@P1utiaI think he has a point. The Muslims translated ancient Egyptian and Greek knowledge in bulk which helped for the renaissance and scientific revolution eventually. It's not clear if those other empires would have done same. But if they did, it would have been beneficial.
@P1utia
@P1utia 9 месяцев назад
@@ze_kangz932 Even if, Islam is not that influential enough. He doesnt have a point, all what hes saying is nonsense.
@yog-sothothery5720
@yog-sothothery5720 2 года назад
The tang dynasty might conquer central Asia and the discovery of the age of exploration might be delayed. I wonder if this world industrializes.
@P1utia
@P1utia Год назад
It WONT be delayed. The exploration was an inevitable thing even without Islam.
@user-on3ie9ru5m
@user-on3ie9ru5m 24 дня назад
​@@P1utia ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C8M4i9fvq1M.htmlsi=sfE1_p1by8wtm5xx
@TheOwneroftheIC
@TheOwneroftheIC 2 года назад
Nestorianism was spreading in Persia during the last decades of Sassanian rule, it might become a lot stronger in Central Asia and India, maybe even Persia itself.
@ryansmith8345
@ryansmith8345 2 года назад
Yes it's actually quite possible that Persia would have been one of the major Christian power houses of the world by now. As a matter of fact some of the Sassanid emperors were very attracted to the Christianity & it's concepts & values , there are some Periods during the Sassanid empire of Persia that christianity was even declared as the official state religion !!!! Ahhh..... if only....... This world truly would have been a paradise !!! I'm jealous of the people in our alternative worlds :"))
@ryansmith8345
@ryansmith8345 2 года назад
@The Dark Knight What is it you say ??..... *Haram* !!!!! LMFAO
@ryansmith8345
@ryansmith8345 2 года назад
@The Dark Knight Just as much as I like annoying atheists I suppose ! Lol. Tell me , do you believe we're all a coincidence ?? Lol. That : one molecule hit another & boom , trillions of years later & after evolving from fish to monkeys & from monkeys to humans, here we are ?? XDD Also I never got to directly ask the opinion of an atheist about death !!! Your people must be $hit scared of death right ? Cuz if : *God is real then you're screwed* !!! Lol & if : *God is not real, then you're screwed to the void & oblivion anyways* !!! LMFAO Must be a hopeless life......sorry for what you're going through :"(
@ryansmith8345
@ryansmith8345 2 года назад
@The Dark Knight & do you think, that volcano erupted for a reason ? or was it just a coincidence that plate tectonics & chemical activity beneath the surface of earth caused a volcano to erupt ?
@ryansmith8345
@ryansmith8345 2 года назад
@The Dark Knight & from what did the hominids evolve from pray tell ?
@coconutcore
@coconutcore 2 года назад
5:57 Me: *groans “nooooooo…not again!” out loud*
@Shuaib_Aslam
@Shuaib_Aslam 8 месяцев назад
Great vid
@RandomYT05_01
@RandomYT05_01 2 года назад
This is also a timeline where the 5 holy c's remain Christian including Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem, and Constantinople. Unlike our timeline in which we only have Rome and Jerusalem, and with Jerusalem the Jews own it. A timeline in which the 2 major religions being Christianity and Zoroastrianism seems to me like a better timeline tbh.
@ivokantarski6220
@ivokantarski6220 2 года назад
Such timeline doesnt automatically stop everything else. What I dont like in such scenarios is that something changes and its live happy and forever. U cant have that. For sure these Arabs there would some day later invent some powerful state maybe not a state which would advance so further away but something will happen eventually. Plus it's not like Parthia or Persia or whatever dynasty there would just leave Rome alone. U gotta realise that for both sides there is nothing nearby more lucrative than looting each other. That is the issue with empire bordering each other. Unless its some geographical barrier badly putting any invasion into risk then they are always doomed to eventually meet up in battle. The issue between them was neither was capable of knocking out the other 1 completely. Too large and it would take generations for East Rome to properly conquer the other side. Same for Persia trying to conquer Rome. These fast conquests are not a thing of already established and succesful states. They lack the hunger to do it. Peaceful coexistence ain't a long term thing.
@ManiacMayhem7256
@ManiacMayhem7256 2 года назад
@@ivokantarski6220 hey look a rational and well reasoned response to a dumb comment. Good going
@RandomYT05_01
@RandomYT05_01 2 года назад
@Timur Sayfullah kinda was expecting this you know. Btw, your comment means nothing to me.
@RandomYT05_01
@RandomYT05_01 2 года назад
@Timur Sayfullah wow, this again.
@RandomYT05_01
@RandomYT05_01 2 года назад
@Timur Sayfullah so you run off now? Coward.
@MrK-VH
@MrK-VH 10 месяцев назад
A better ending , A happy ending , The best ending
@user-on3ie9ru5m
@user-on3ie9ru5m 24 дня назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C8M4i9fvq1M.htmlsi=sfE1_p1by8wtm5xx
@illyrianwarrior1746
@illyrianwarrior1746 2 года назад
Whats the name of the songs (Instrumental beats). BTW love your videos, best greetings from Albania/Kosovo
@vazak11
@vazak11 2 года назад
Interesting!
@mu3877
@mu3877 2 года назад
What about LALIA? (Late antiquity little ice age) this period lead to more rain and the rise of greenery in arabia wich lead to overpopulation while not being effected by the wars (except in yemen) nor the plagues this is actually the mean reason why the islamic conquest was successful depopulated empire by wars and plagues and an overpopulated arabia with a new religion
@6paths142
@6paths142 2 года назад
Don’t know how I ended up here but I’m enjoying it.
@Sejara1528
@Sejara1528 2 года назад
This is more like "What if Muhammad never born" rather than "If Islamic conquest failed". If the conquest failed: -Arab still united -Breakup to smaller Muslim tribes after Rashidun ended -Islam still exist, but limited to Arabian peninsular, Egypt, Levant, Mashriqi. -If Byzantines collapse, Egypt would become a Coptic kingdom. Much like Ethiopia. -Crusader might not happened in this timeline.
@atr_g10
@atr_g10 2 года назад
if the crusades happened, they would be limited to northeastern europe. the only reason why the whole "we will conquer jerusalem" thing happened was because the turks were conquering byzantium, and with no muslim persia, the turks wouldn't migrate to anatolia
@Sejara1528
@Sejara1528 2 года назад
@@atr_g10 Yeah, I've heard that pope created Teutonic Order to convert Lithuanian pagans.
@i_likemen5614
@i_likemen5614 Год назад
@@atr_g10 Turks could've still migrated to Anatolia (thought they would probably be more like the Slavs where they would eventually be Christianized)
@SarudeDanstorm
@SarudeDanstorm 11 месяцев назад
Maurice is such an underrated Emperor for all the potential he'd built. The ultimate what-if imo
@Dominus_Augustus
@Dominus_Augustus 10 месяцев назад
If only Persia and Rome weren't at each other's throats all the time, this easily could have been the case, and humanity would have been much better off for it. Such a shame
@Iranshahriii
@Iranshahriii 6 месяцев назад
I wish persia and roma allied too
@Yourlocalskinwalker_
@Yourlocalskinwalker_ 2 года назад
Life could be a dream… Life could be a dreeeeeeeaaaammmmmm booom boom boom shiboom
@Arabian-Muslim
@Arabian-Muslim 27 дней назад
Let’s be honest if the Islamic empire didn’t exist we wouldn’t have much development or countries as now everything can be changed by a simple touch to a country
@ivokantarski6220
@ivokantarski6220 2 года назад
Not beneficial to Bulgaria. Maybe in this scenario our ancestors would not go as deep as ancient Greece at certain points. I'm not sure if they would remain well below the Danude. Simply more legions for Rome doesnt mean they could deploy many more but for sure in such scenario the success of the first Bulgarian empire wouldnt be the same in style. Probadly would also settle in the Panonian basin.
@cynfaelalek-walker7003
@cynfaelalek-walker7003 2 года назад
Medina literally means "City".
@victorien3704
@victorien3704 2 года назад
It's full name is madina al manawara which means City of light or bright city
@cynfaelalek-walker7003
@cynfaelalek-walker7003 2 года назад
@@victorien3704 A fellow Muslim scholar, what sect are you brother?
@slimmy478-6
@slimmy478-6 2 года назад
@@cynfaelalek-walker7003 Is a sect necessary?
@cynfaelalek-walker7003
@cynfaelalek-walker7003 2 года назад
@@slimmy478-6 no, not really, you want to become Muslim? You can, the two major Muslim sects just argue about the heir to the prophet's caliphate, you can decide on that after you've said the oath.
@slimmy478-6
@slimmy478-6 2 года назад
@@cynfaelalek-walker7003 Fortunately I am a Muslim however I just stick to the basics of the religion
@ayush.kumar.13907
@ayush.kumar.13907 2 года назад
Yemen was a center for trade and knowledge in pre-islamic arabia, do you think then in this alternate timeline Yemen might become the most influential powerhouse or even the unifier of Arabia?
@user-ot2yz7it7i
@user-ot2yz7it7i 2 года назад
No one at that time really thought of or aimed for unification of Arabia, it's a nomad land mostly.
@ayush.kumar.13907
@ayush.kumar.13907 2 года назад
@@user-ot2yz7it7i I was thinking maybe it would naturally emerge as the centre of Arabian world as a result of its position
@ayush.kumar.13907
@ayush.kumar.13907 2 года назад
wtf is with this formatting
@thedstorm8922
@thedstorm8922 2 года назад
@@ayush.kumar.13907 lol it the Arabic name Arabic starts from right to left
@ayush.kumar.13907
@ayush.kumar.13907 2 года назад
@@thedstorm8922 no when i viewed it on the phone, the arabic name was on the right of the sentence and rest of the text wrapped around it. But looks fine on PC
@plexusGD
@plexusGD 2 года назад
good vid
@zadrogon9721
@zadrogon9721 2 года назад
Remember me when you reach a million subs
@ikengaspirit3063
@ikengaspirit3063 2 года назад
I say Persia falls, they already had internal issues and operated as something of a Sassanid lead Parthian Confederacy where even that Sassanid legitimacy had diluted to other leading clans. I would say maybe if the Lakhmids play their cards right they might conquer it and they had converted to Christianity. Or Sassnids be replaced by a Pathlavi dynasty that is eventually taken over by Nestorian Arabs.
@iSyriux
@iSyriux 2 года назад
We can't you just accept that Iran doesn't have to be conquered by arabs?
@ikengaspirit3063
@ikengaspirit3063 2 года назад
@@iSyriux what if they are instead conquered by Turks, tho a Daylamite conquest would just be a different Iranian group taking over.
@KertPerteson
@KertPerteson 2 года назад
What a wonderful world that we missed
@iihamed711
@iihamed711 2 года назад
Nah
@Jonathan-fk9nq
@Jonathan-fk9nq 2 года назад
Western Rome exists that make me smile
@keepcalm3280
@keepcalm3280 2 года назад
Jews should have k Jesus in his childhood that would be interesting.
@sajidteg4682
@sajidteg4682 2 года назад
Nah
@prs_81
@prs_81 2 года назад
True... Zoroastrian Persia, Rome rekindled and probably no Turkish conquests...
@qo3398
@qo3398 10 месяцев назад
You can change as much history events as you’d like, the Arabian conquest was as Thanos described himself “Inevitable”
@xtreme7672
@xtreme7672 2 года назад
You didn't Cover effect's on indian subcontinent and south east asia
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 2 года назад
out of the scope of the video.
@hanoi9316
@hanoi9316 2 года назад
What if the Mongols conquered Egypt ?
@crazycxr
@crazycxr 3 месяца назад
They did actually at one point
@JMObyx
@JMObyx 2 года назад
"What if the Persian reconquest from the Muslim occupiers succeeded?
@liluths4601
@liluths4601 8 дней назад
One of the main concepts in zoroasterinism is to actively help human societies grow in the righteous way and also protecting earth and environment, each person has the responsibility of thinking and not just blindly following. You can see how the Parsis helped with growth in India after they fled And became refugees there ( after Islamic colonization of Persia). Only imagine if that religion was the dominant religion in Middle East. It would be a whole different world.
@Dominus_Augustus
@Dominus_Augustus 10 месяцев назад
I really appreciate that you're pretty much the only alt-history channel that doesn't assume that Abrahamic cults (particularly Christianity and Islam) would have dominated the world anyway, even if things played out differently and all the odds were stacked against them. All these other channels are clearly biased towards these cults. You seem to be one of the few objective alt history channels.
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 2 года назад
how the death of ONE man changes history.
@brandoncampanaro7571
@brandoncampanaro7571 2 года назад
The largest empire other than Rome, Britain and the Mongols, and Russians
@nathanc939
@nathanc939 2 года назад
Wrong. It is dwarfed by most major colonial Empires, including the French and Spanish.
@brandoncampanaro7571
@brandoncampanaro7571 2 года назад
@@nathanc939 incase you didn't read it right which could be the case, I said Britain, which covers colonial powers because they were the top one
@knightoffailure1869
@knightoffailure1869 2 года назад
I think assuming the situation was that stable is probably wrong. An autonomous Western Empire based heavily in Africa and the Exarchate of Ravenna might see some success, particularly in Italy, although I don't foresee the Franks allowing them to get more than that before they begin supporting the empire's rivals in some form, or helping to carve them up themselves. Whether the west would be up to facing the Franks would depend very heavily on how well its first few centuries go, as well as who is on the Frankish throne, since the Frankish Kingdom in this period was incredibly dependent on having a capable monarch, but incredibly powerful when it did. Likewise, the situation in the east might not blow up as spectacularly as it did in reality, but Eastern Rome was facing fierce internal conflict with Egypt and parts of Syria, and the Avars were far from the last horde coming down from the north. Maurice was unique in that he was so much more popular than the man who replaced him that many were uncertain of whether letting Persia in was actually the greater evil, at least at first, but Persia could still launch an invasion when an emperor was preoccupied or during transition, and there's no guarantee that it wouldn't make significant gains. Persia itself was also in decline though, and you completely omitted the rapidly growing Nestorians, whom the Persians were more hesitent to persecute because they had Roman backing, and whom the Romans regularly used as a cassus belli against Persia during their wars. That situation wasn't going to end peacefully, one way or another, and while the Sassanids might not implode, civil war was likely in the cards for the near future, as it had been in much of their history. The Eastern Romans were also beginning to recover from the devastation of Justinian's plague and the more recent invasions, so if the east sees its star rising again, it's very likely that they will at least attempt to return to the old Roman pastime of sacking Ctesiphon. Clearly such an advance was possible, given what Heraclius managed with a devastated empire, and if the Arabs begin to favor Rome consistently it might even become likely, assuming that the Eastern Empire doesn't split in half over religion or get devastated by Bulgars. Personally, I see Sassanid collapse as coming in the relatively near future, and Western Roman restoration stopping after securing a more stable position in Italy, possibly just restoring everything south of Rome, while Spain either divides against itself before later reunifying or is taken by the Franks. The East probably masterminds the Sassanid collapse and restores a favorable position by creating or restoring Christian client kingdoms in Armenia, Iraq, and Arabia, and propping them up, while a more modest Persia persists either under a branch of the Sassanids or a new house and probably has some difficult times facing off against increasingly aggressive Turks. Long term the scenario benefits the Eastern Romans the most, so if the Sassanids or anyone else doesn't do something to nerf them soon, I see them becoming the dominant European/Near Eastern power, particularly as the situation in Europe stabilizes with the growth of Christianity. East west Schism probably doesn't occur, though the churches do drift apart culturally and repeatedly excommunicate opposing emperors. Western Rome has about as good of odds of being reincorporated at some point as of remaining independent, with an outside chance of Frankish conquest of some or all of it, particularly in mainland Europe. Nestorianism probably gets huge, maybe even gaining majorities in some countries without Islam nerfing its heartlands, and Persia probably protects and promotes Zoroastrianism much better than in reality, though it was a faith in decline, and absent major reforms likely doesn't expand much, and may even lose Persia with enough Roman intervention. The real wild card is the Germans, and whether they unite under the Franks, unite under someone else, and what happens with their religion. Absent Islam we lose Charles Martel's victory at Tours, so the Carolingians might not be a thing, Frankia might be weak, and Christianity might have a much harder time among the Germans without Charlemagne. Vikings without Christianity gradually taking their homelands from the south might be a far larger threat than they already were, and might lead to interesting consequences for Western Europe and Russia. Arabs also still likely create trading empire's around the Indian Ocean, though without Islamic domination things will be quite different there too.
@juniorjames7076
@juniorjames7076 Год назад
Funny, no one seems to really talk about the trauma those final decades of war the Byzantine and Persians left on the Arab mercenary tribes. It was an Apocalyptic age in every sense, and this Byzantine General Heraclius had to create a spiritual/psycological/metaphysical culture of....well, for lack of a better term...Holy War! The aftermath of which may have planted the seeds for an off-shoot extremist Judeo-Christian military cult manifesting into Islam. Just a theory.
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex 2 года назад
I'd say, there would be the missing romance language and nation in north Africa.
@slimmy478-6
@slimmy478-6 2 года назад
What if constantinople fell in 717?
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 2 года назад
Byantium might have it's history ended short. Maybe the slavs under papal sanction retake it. Maybe Charlemagne retakes Eastern Rome and is proclaimed restorer of the world.
@i_likemen5614
@i_likemen5614 Год назад
The Romans become Muslims and maybe they become like the Persians
@MonsieurDean
@MonsieurDean 2 года назад
Paradise?
@samueltv9428
@samueltv9428 2 года назад
No islamic golden age
@cpt7752
@cpt7752 2 года назад
based
@the3zoooz1
@the3zoooz1 2 года назад
No fuck that I wouldn’t exist
@Densdel
@Densdel 2 года назад
Yes.
@victorien3704
@victorien3704 2 года назад
No islam = No renaissance No surviving greek mythology and science, No exploration of the americas, No major scientific inventions like algebra, and this would fuck up the timeline so badly probably everyone living today and our current technology won't exist.
@mikejohnson5059
@mikejohnson5059 9 месяцев назад
Research the years 630 through 740 AD. ISLAM was not a cult during that time yet. Research the coins, architecture, language, rock inscriptions, water sources, etc. The early Quran suras were Christian poems.
@yusufdunphy5402
@yusufdunphy5402 Месяц назад
Add in the fact that the inhabitants Malaysia and Indonesia both, would remain predominantly affiliated with Dharmic faiths.
@125discipline2
@125discipline2 2 года назад
roman would still be a thing today
@mohammadhassan5461
@mohammadhassan5461 7 месяцев назад
No i think roman well fall even if muslim did not conquer
@125discipline2
@125discipline2 7 месяцев назад
@@mohammadhassan5461 i say roman in broarder term, it might be a community that actually consider themselves romans in a very convincing way by speaking latin or still have roman tradition. not like the sketchy romanian slavs or italian 'people' like we have today.
@alphaundpinsel2431
@alphaundpinsel2431 2 года назад
this video should be titled: "What if Eastern Rome wasn't usurped by the worst emperor history had to offer?"
@13thdivision70
@13thdivision70 2 года назад
They will still lose
@poukaa7047
@poukaa7047 Год назад
@@13thdivision70 how?
@ikengaspirit3063
@ikengaspirit3063 2 года назад
I feel like you still Ignore that the Muslism would most likely still attempt to Take Persian territories in Arabia like Oman and Yemen, how successful woul they be at this and what would be the Persian response?.
@ryansmith8345
@ryansmith8345 2 года назад
Perhaps if in return they agreed to help Persia with their soldiers & mercenaries & stopped causing any kind of trouble & agreeing to a peace , Persia would have agreed to choose Arab rulers & kings & appoint them to rule over Oman & Yemen & other territories of the Arabian peninsula. That's my guess.
@Judeogroyppedo
@Judeogroyppedo 2 года назад
Interesting make more and came form Monsieur z
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 2 года назад
Not Good Or Bad. Just A Strange World
@iSyriux
@iSyriux 2 года назад
I bet you started mappinga year ago
@finfi9143
@finfi9143 2 года назад
Islam is coming again and it will be stronger than before
@finfi9143
@finfi9143 Год назад
@John Smith We will return as the spirit of God Jesus
@based-iranian
@based-iranian Год назад
Dude get ridd of Israel first
@user-zf4um3yj8h
@user-zf4um3yj8h Год назад
And also let us forget that the Persians and the Romans were more numerous in number and equipment, and also allied themselves in order to bring down the Arabs, but they could not, under the leadership of Heraclius, the strong leader.
@ariaghorbani9375
@ariaghorbani9375 Год назад
PROPAGANDA
@mattstakeontheancients7594
@mattstakeontheancients7594 Год назад
Always wondered about this if they hadn’t fought could the Islamic conquest been successful
@TheoneandonlyVaken
@TheoneandonlyVaken 2 года назад
Heraclius the Great would not had his Emperorship ruined if Islam didnt fucking Ruin it. All hail the savior of ROME
@KertPerteson
@KertPerteson 2 года назад
Ave Heraclius
@iihamed711
@iihamed711 2 года назад
Heraclius 👎
@victorien3704
@victorien3704 2 года назад
Second of all, islam didn't ruin shit as If it wasn't already ruined, multiple envoys and messengers were sent to heraclius to let islam flourish in his kingdom, but no heraclius chose to do the worst desicion of his life, the Muslim messengers got harassed and a Roman puppet killed one of them, its just pure karma and you Christians don't know the full story and keep whining about rome fell, it was because rome was weak. End of story
@KertPerteson
@KertPerteson 2 года назад
@@victorien3704 Sure okay bro
@yoghurtmaster1688
@yoghurtmaster1688 2 года назад
@@victorien3704 you sent the same message twice
@sravasaksitam
@sravasaksitam Год назад
No 9/11...
@sravasaksitam
@sravasaksitam Год назад
@@DaFanterLetsGo ah...
@rasam2001
@rasam2001 5 месяцев назад
A man can dream I wish this was the history😊
@coconutcore
@coconutcore 2 года назад
6:53 *Soviet anthem plays in Arabic*
@kingazteck5
@kingazteck5 2 года назад
I don't think The Western Roman Empire would be able to conquer Spain, especially with them fighting the Lombard's and later the Franks and Germans, it really wouldn't be worth the resources required either and it'd be even harder to maintain it especially with Frankish pressure, and I don't think we'd see major conflicts between Western and Eastern Empires as this would weaken them for other enemies to just conquer.
@sumstultus4441
@sumstultus4441 2 года назад
The best timeline!! Rome still dominant and no Muslims....now that is a world I will love to live in!!
@skp8748
@skp8748 Год назад
No science 😂
@bashirabdulghaniy
@bashirabdulghaniy 11 месяцев назад
Muslim civilisation is better than Rome. Most of Roman population were slaves but in Islamic civilisation the slaves became kings.
@skp8748
@skp8748 10 месяцев назад
@@Eltonthaqis lol nope western rome had fallen leaving Europe in darkness and Eastern Rome aka byzantines were listless ruminating in a state of societal decay. It was Muslims who were a global community that by religious edict sought out and shared knowledge. It was Muslims who translated the works aristotle and plato that were lost to Europe doing so in the same place where they were translating physics papers from India, mathematics books from persia, herbal medicine from china, writing down oral knowledge of astronomy from arab bedouins or somali seafarers. This was not going to happen in persia or byzantium. That level of commitment to seeking and sharing of knowledge was unparalleled.
@skp8748
@skp8748 10 месяцев назад
@@Eltonthaqis I don't understand your first comment. As for your second its not about an Arab inventing something its about curating the educational environment necessary with the trade routes and state support of scientific research to accompany it that creates the invention.
@Lukdnuke_Narson
@Lukdnuke_Narson 2 года назад
Neat
@whiteholeeducationcenter
@whiteholeeducationcenter Год назад
Muslim was the reason Charistainity united . Without Muslim unity among Charistain was not possible.
@aes1373
@aes1373 6 месяцев назад
Then Iran would've been Islam free and better off.
@only6517
@only6517 2 года назад
No 1Sl4m, N0 w4r.
@Amadeo790
@Amadeo790 2 года назад
Ehh that is questionable. There will always be tribalism.
@P1utia
@P1utia Год назад
@@Amadeo790 But this tribalism is quite different than the one with Islam today. Take Russia's mentality for example. Russia has a 15th century mentality that they invaded Ukraine for some reason, now compare this to Islamic terrorists, they also have this similar mentality but more dedicated for religion itself. People are ALWAYS tribal, but not that kind tribal they are because the world become and becomes LIBERAL, and they just dont want war.
@Amadeo790
@Amadeo790 Год назад
@@P1utia but that is the definition of tribalism. “We don’t like you because your not like us” but the point here is, if Islam didn’t exist, some other groups would still cause war. It’s silly to think the world wouldn’t hate itself if Islam dint exist.
@CoreyStudios2000
@CoreyStudios2000 2 года назад
I honestly think that even if the Islamic conquests did fail, it probably would be inevitable for the Arabs to unite into a single caliphate, though their religion won’t be as widespread as in OTL.
@yves221197
@yves221197 2 года назад
I worked this idea with a Alternate History scenario i made,basically the Earlier Muslim Caliphate Fell because of a Successful Non-Muslim Peasant Revolt that took place in Egypt
@Omarrah3214
@Omarrah3214 2 года назад
You wish 😂😂😂☪️
@PoliteSprite
@PoliteSprite Год назад
Crescent is symbol of pagan moon God in pre-Islamic Arabia use 🏴🏳
@ariaghorbani9375
@ariaghorbani9375 Год назад
You wish 😂😂😂💩
@Barakeh
@Barakeh 2 года назад
Hey BEM you can pronounce my name pretty well!
@ColonelBragg
@ColonelBragg 4 месяца назад
I think the Western Empire would retake Gaul. The Franks had the most idiotic succession system imaginable. It basically guaranteed a civil war every time the king died.
@JHohenhauser
@JHohenhauser 2 года назад
Ah yes, the good ending.
@davidechiusano173
@davidechiusano173 2 года назад
@@madrexertheboredtm7728 it can be also atheist or hindu, who knows. If someone says something negative about Islam, that doesn't mean he is Christian. Grow up
@victorien3704
@victorien3704 2 года назад
@@davidechiusano173 lots of the time it's Hindus pretending to be Christians
@iSyriux
@iSyriux 2 года назад
@@davidechiusano173 Exactly. If someone says something negative about christianity, it doesn't mean they are muslim
@alomaralsulaiman6501
@alomaralsulaiman6501 2 года назад
The sigma ending : Arabs conquered gaul, Britain, and take constantinople.
@alomaralsulaiman6501
@alomaralsulaiman6501 2 года назад
@@davidechiusano173 He have a clearly European name. How can he be Hindu?
@cub_gaming4178
@cub_gaming4178 Год назад
The greatest thing to ever happen to humanity
@faisal35i92
@faisal35i92 Год назад
If it didn’t happen then Say bye bye to modern civilization lol 😂
@cub_gaming4178
@cub_gaming4178 Год назад
@@faisal35i92 press x to doubt
@P1utia
@P1utia Год назад
@@faisal35i92 lies. modern civilization would still be there even without islam, the people made the golden age and not initiated by islam itself. it was a byproduct of caliphate success. even if without islam a similar golden age would happen, just under the sassanians and zoroastrians. without islam you all arabs would have been liberal by now and would stop fighting in the name of sectarianism like in syria.
@AhmedToqeer-xz7kd
@AhmedToqeer-xz7kd Год назад
​@@P1utianah 🐖 pagan your modern world would never make it
@skp8748
@skp8748 Год назад
​@@P1utiawrong they were islamic theologians inspired by islamic edict to seek knowledge 😂
@richtermixon284
@richtermixon284 2 года назад
the after shocks of this event would prevent the creation of the food product known as Takis
@ashketchum5466
@ashketchum5466 2 года назад
the golden timeline
@leonardotonin7608
@leonardotonin7608 2 года назад
Thank you God I'm not muslim 😂
@khkkhk6594
@khkkhk6594 2 года назад
Why?
@leonardotonin7608
@leonardotonin7608 2 года назад
@@khkkhk6594 I'm not related with terrorist
@moisuomi
@moisuomi 2 года назад
@@leonardotonin7608 Based
@unistavanjesquarediagonal2687
@unistavanjesquarediagonal2687 2 года назад
Your arrogance will cost you the Hereafter
@khkkhk6594
@khkkhk6594 2 года назад
It is sad that such an idea spreads In the Middle East there are many Christians and Jews in Arab and Islamic countries... If your words were true, they would have disappeared from existence... But the Western advertisement distorted Islam for political purposes and nothing more
@ryansmith8345
@ryansmith8345 2 года назад
Truly paradise !!! Since with the Sassanid empire & the byzantine empire still remaining as the world's superpowers & each other's allies would have also resulted in the Mongolian empire to never expand westwards !!! ( terrible & devastating wars would have happened for sure but the Mongolian empire would have 99.99% never ever set foot in the west in either of Persia or byzantium !!!! ) For those blinded turkic or Mongolian nationalists or anyone who is gonna complain, I'm gonna remind you : *the Mongols under Genghiz Khan sure killed & fought & won over a lot of people & armies in all sides but take into account that THEY FOUGHT ONLY AGAINST THE EXTREMELY WEAK OR "WEAKENED" NATIONS & COUNTRIES* We're talking about the Sassanid & the byzantine empires here !!! ( *fri**ing superpowers of the world* !!! ) & superpowers which were already greatly advanced & developed , as matter of fact it's not even that far from mind to think that they would have even invented the gunpowder by the times the Mongolian empire was only about to rise. Truly a paradise !!!! Unburned libraries crying of laughter & happiness in the distant :""""""))
@windbuster
@windbuster 3 месяца назад
Good Ending
@hashkangaroo
@hashkangaroo 2 года назад
Or you could just have Heraclius not exist, thereby leading to a Persian curbstomp of Byzantium without anyone there to get the Byzantines up off their ass, organized and on the offensive. Then Persia would be ascendant, and the Muslims would be too heavily outnumbered for an open war. Instead, we might see Byzantium and the Caliphate ally against a common enemy, though they wouldn't have the resources to fight it _just yet._ This would have profound effects on Islam as a religion. It would still spread along trade routes, but it wouldn't have the conquering character that it did IOTL, because that record of stunning victory under the Rashidun caliphs wouldn't be sitting in the mind of every Muslim thereafter.
@alomaralsulaiman6501
@alomaralsulaiman6501 2 года назад
"Why did the Islamic conquest failed?" Thousands of Muslims in North Africa and iran and Pakistan : hmmmmmmm interesting
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 2 года назад
Christianity and Buddhism: It's free real estate.
@mr.commenter7953
@mr.commenter7953 2 года назад
@@Litany_of_Fury Buddhism never used violence btw
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 2 года назад
@@mr.commenter7953 what about Shinto Buddhists?
@mr.commenter7953
@mr.commenter7953 2 года назад
@@Litany_of_Fury that's a misconception. During the Meiji period the emperor wanted to remove any foreign thing from Japan (that includes Buddhism). The soldiers weren't Buddhists when they were committing the atrocities in Korea & China. Anyone who follows Dharma can never commit such crimes.
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 2 года назад
@@mr.commenter7953 so? what about before?
@eduardmemester2706
@eduardmemester2706 2 года назад
Haram, lol
@ryansmith8345
@ryansmith8345 2 года назад
Lol
@eternal_riftz8801
@eternal_riftz8801 2 года назад
Part 2
@sahilhossain8204
@sahilhossain8204 Год назад
Hmm yes nice alt history
@daryushzorvan769
@daryushzorvan769 Год назад
This title is a Persian wet dream
@fuzzley911
@fuzzley911 Год назад
False
@iaw7406
@iaw7406 Год назад
and an indian, greek, armenian one
@ariaghorbani9375
@ariaghorbani9375 Год назад
And an arab NIGHTMARE.
@skp8748
@skp8748 Год назад
​@@iaw7406lol indians
@TheLastRoman
@TheLastRoman 2 года назад
A blessed timeline
@13thdivision70
@13thdivision70 2 года назад
A disgrace
@TheLastRoman
@TheLastRoman 2 года назад
@@13thdivision70 for some
@13thdivision70
@13thdivision70 2 года назад
@@TheLastRoman for everyone beside the enemies of Islam.
@TheLastRoman
@TheLastRoman 2 года назад
@@13thdivision70 still a blessed timeline with no islamic empire
@13thdivision70
@13thdivision70 2 года назад
@@TheLastRoman cope dude, it is still your imagination. The blessed islamic empires happened and it will happen again. R E M O V E S H I R K
@user-iu1eg2pt7i
@user-iu1eg2pt7i Год назад
If only Heraclius had died before the Arab invasion he would've been remembered as one of the greatest.
@anomynoususer2358
@anomynoususer2358 4 месяца назад
Part 2?
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