What If The Soviets Won The Cold War? 

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In many ways, this alternative Soviet Union is a lot more like the United States of America. A winner of the Cold War who had a difficult time maintaining it's hegemonic status from all kinds of issues

The amount of detail put into it is beyond impressive

A Pro-Soviet take from someone that lived in the USSR leading up to WWII is even more captivating. Read Anna Louise Strong’s “The Soviets Expected It”. She experienced a much different USSR than we understand in the US. She actually worked with Stalin and has another perspective.

So, basically, "What if everything went in favor of the Soviets"

I doubt the US would keep pressing decolonization in a world where they're on par with the Soviets, knowing each independent state could easily fall under Soviet influence(as many did in our timeline) and swing the balance the wrong way. There was little chance for this in our timeline due to the dilapidated state of the Soviet economy(and a non-existent Chinese): the US could easily outbid any offer the Soviets made or use brute force if necessary and the half broken empires of Europe would pose no real threat to the USA. It would be far mor important to keep them allied and use their colonies as bases of operation, than force them to give up their colonies.

I think this is a really good scenario, but there is one major problem. Abolishing the SSRs would actually massively increase instability and probably cause multiple secessionist wars. Part of what made the soviet union so appealing to many of the people's of the country was that it ended the russian chauvinistic policies of the russian empire. Kazakhs had their own Kazakhstan, rather than just a few extra oblasts of Russia. Of course, how much the ussr actually adhered to this brotherhood of nationalities varied in practice depending on the time, but the fact is this system was key in winning over the non russian population.

What I really love about this scenario is just how many things have to go right for the Soviets for them to win the cold war

Although they tend to be quite extreme and somewhat implausible scenarios compared to a lot of other alt history channels, your videos are really enjoyable! Keep it up!

The scenario is pretty good, but the idea of turning the entire USSR into RSFSR is a bit dumb. Stalin barely had to deal with national movements and taking away the (perceived, as there was barely any) autonomy would heavily hit the image of the USSR that he was trying to build. Moreover, the national republics inside of the USSR gave the country more representatives on the international stage, while still being controlled from Moscow. Respect for mentioning OGAS though

This is basically "What if Stalin was actually good?" Lol

I’m not typically a big fan of “great man” history but I’m curious on your take of a scenario if J. Edgar Hoover were to die or be taken down in the 30s. The guy was crucial for the anti worker and anti civil rights efforts of the FBI. Be interesting to see the American labor movement staying strong post 1970s

Truly a glorious achievement of the Potential Proletariat.

Not super realistic (there's no way removing Trotsky would prevent the infighting following Lenin's death) but this is a really fun and imaginative scenario.

Thank you so much for posting weekly I am loving your videos! ❤

This goes against Stalin's own writings and beliefs. It's basically a "what if Stalin wasn't Stalin and wasn't a Leninist?".

Brilliant video bro, Ive been binging your videos recently (although have forgotten to comment on all), but keep up the great work! Cant wait for us to collab like we planned!

One part of this scenario that is unrealistic is the failed assassination of Kennedy. The problems caused by the Vietnam War were caused in a very large part by LBJ's ineffective policies, such as large scale involvement and conscription. If Kennedy lived, he would most likely have had 2 terms and his reforms of the US military would continue. Crucially, they would not draft large numbers for the war and would likely continue their much more successful policies and may even win. In addition, Kennedy was a VERY charismatic man, and would likely motivate America to push forwards in the space race, potentially allowing the US to win (though not necessarily). The prevention of his assassination would be a very large boon for the US, especially if they do not commit large numbers of troops and money to Vietnam. JFK after finishing his terms would likely continue to be a major voice in US politics, likely being a somewhat divisive but altogether stabilizing force in US politics for decades. I think that Kennedy has to be assassinated in this scenario, because in my opinion he is a key figure in history and preventing his assassination strengthens the United States.

This guy's FBI agent looking at his history. How does the soviet union works How to make communism work How to start a successful communist revolution in Iran How to start a successful Communist revolution in several African nations How to dissolve the US and turn half of it Communist How to spread communism in South America How to elect a Communist into France and the UK How to dissolve nato

Joe Biden would be kinda sad idk

Amazing scenario and content! I’m a writer and I’ve been wanting to branch into alt history for a while and watching your videos I increasing want to do this. Great work as always.

I was thinking of a scenario a while ago where no war no peace didn’t occur. So cool to see it in an actual video

Loving the longer videos as of late :)

This is one of The Best what if Cold wat scenario i have ever seen Comrade Seraph did a great job Bravo👏

Instead of calling it the ''Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic'' It should be called ''Socialist Republic of Eurasia'' That would've been a better name.

One of the best written Alternate Histories I've ever seen. Good job, Serov.

What if Rudolf, crown prince of Austria -Hungary didn't commit suicide ? What if Catherine the Great had intervene on the side of the British during the American revolution ? What if Mary I had given birth to A son ? What if Edward V had lived ?

its kinda shocking how good of a industrialist Stalin was

@POSSIBLE HISTORY. What if america went full manifest destiny. Purchase of Greenland. Purchase and state hood of English carribean and English Belize and English Guyana. Purchase of western Canada. Annexation of northern Canada.

Ok. This video single-handely convinced me to subscribe to this channel

This was a really cool scenario! I can really tell the creator put a lot of thought into making it believable but engaging

This the best scenario ever, i wish there was a hoi4 mod about this cause gooodamm Serov possible history you guys out did yourselves.👍

The USSR's victory in World War II alone surpasses all the victories of all countries in history combined. It was unprecedented in scale and unprecedented in the benefits gained. It’s interesting if this is considered on a par with the Russian-Georgian conflict, which lasted 6 days.

"To make the Soviets win, give Stalin more power and make the union explicitly Russian and not a union anymore" I feel like this isn't very realistic, but cool video anyway

Cool video, will defiantly read the full scenario!

Very refreshing to hear an alt history RU-vidr be actually knowledgeable about Stalin, especially his later plans for the ussr.

Don’t threaten me with a good time

This is so detailed man, maybe someone should make this scenario a HOI4 mod

Perfect, one word - PERFECT

Really do love ur work keep it up

This was excellent. Also, a novel set in this world would be interesting. Keep up the great work and Peace. ✌🏻

Y'know this channel is pretty underrated, I love your content man!

@Possible History I feel like the fact that there was no territoriale compensation for the east in poland or no agreement between poland and the soviets about the eastern border (which also failed irl), because protests in poland and its independence was one of the main reasons for the fall of the eastern block. I feel like in an alt timeline where the soviets didnt lose that hard against poland the tensions between the states would have been way less. So I could imagine a less paranoid stalin could come to some agreements. Idk this would kinda fit to the theme of the soviets not making the mistakes they made. What are your thoughts on this.

I really like this scenario, mad respect!

Love your videos. The alternative history is so well developed and thought out. The creation of the Russian Federation would have solved a lot of future headaches for the leaders and unite the different peoples without the need to relocate families. Bigger population, bigger workforce. Having no purge might change the dynamics of the Red Army. It would be a large, well led juggernaut. The German attack might be bogged down faster than in our current lifetime, the army being led by competent and capable soldiers.

I love how it's all serious and invested and then I hear "funny mustache man happens"

I really enjoyed the video.

Konstantin Semin part made me laugh real good

What a fantastic scenario! So well thought out and justified.

I think that person (creator of the scenario, not the video itself) also forgot that after annexing Finland soviets now have more frontlines (additional frontline in Finland-Norway border) but, probably, Germany thought that terrible climate and supply issues won't let the soviets to advance to Norway and take really important port of Narvik. Unluckily for germans, the Soviets are attacking and advancing really well, capturing Narvik and disrupting their iron trade with Sweden, what causes a lot of problems for them. After soviets captures all of Norway, Germany must use all of their fleet to support naval superiority on Northern and Baltic seas, if they don't want for soviets landing in Schleswig-Holstein or Denmark. Also Soviets can Try to invade Hokkaido after capturing Karafuto and Kuril islands. As United States are still trying to capture islands like Iwo Jima or Okinawa, soviets are advancing into Japan, probably taking Hokkaido from them and turning them to the puppet after the war aswell.

Thanks for a vid ❤

I am russian communist. The Constantin Syomin line just killed me💀💀💀

stalin breathes... MASSIVELY SUCESSFUL

I'm really enjoying these alternative scenarios

hi Love your vids!

Man, this ai geopolitic creepy pasta be trippin me out 😂 but the line about the KGB becoming an anti-corruption institution had me in stitches

I think it would be cool if we saw a what if about Winston Churchill growing up in America

Feels like in a strategy games where even when different leaders get elected they still do the same things

Very good video!

I think the UK would be with the commonwealth and build it up stronger after having a rift due to the falkland islands with America, and acting as its own neutral faction.

It seems all the pictures in Serov's document are missing.

Even though this is a cliche scenario this absolutely amazing

I dont see how the US just collapses, the US has a far more stable political system than the soviet union ever did, in fact they have one of the most stable political systems in the world with a 250 year continuous run of presidents and governemnt from its inception, something few other major powers can say aside from Britain itself. they also didnt have to deal with any major wars or conflict on their soil, or mass famine, genocide, starvation or any of that sort. Put it simply, there was less to be discontent about, and there was no reason to overthrow the government when you can just elect a new one. Plus they also werent a repressive, totalitarian regime that relied military force to keep people in line.

When I saw Konstantin Semin as the leader of the USSR, I had a good laugh.

I seriously want to see a sequel for this tbh

What an interesting and refreshing scenario.

I feel like the Soviet Union taking Alaska is too much. But other than that, it's a great scenario.

Except that by any metric the USSR planned economy was able to rebuild everything pretty fast. The problem never was the USSR economy but rather the fact that the US wasn't destroyed during ww2 like the USSR was.

Excellent job!!!

After watching the what if everything went perfect videos, this user suggestion is basically that but under a different name

This was great

Why would there be a war in Afghanistan? The reason for the war in our timeline was opposition by the Soviet revisionists to the "hardline" anti-revisionist Afghani government. Specifically the hardline "Khalqist" faction had overthrown the Soviet aligned "Parcham" faction. But in this timeline, where the revisionist forces headed by Khrushchev never take control of the USSR, the Khalqists would naturally align themselves with the USSR in the first place, leading to no war.

nice work and video

Great vid 🎉

I'd speaking Russian instead of English as a second language right now.

Alternate Title: What if stalin was less concerned about political opponents

I liked this! I am curious what would be happening in Canada?

But for suggestion of your own content I think it'd be cooler if you made more North American what if content like what if Texas remained independent and became backed by France and joined the side of the Confederacy possibly involving France in the American civil war and then possibly having a stronger Mexico join the side of the US possibly creating a alternate first world war ?

So Canada is basically just Belarus in this timeline

A realistic and ideal scenario looking at a bright future for the people!

Love this!

are you going to do a viewer senario contest again

Basically "How to make Whatifalthist dies of cringe"

Slight correction. The Republicans were largely in support of civil rights bills leading up to the the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Kennedy actually represented a change internally within the Democrat party on the issue of civil rights. What Kennedy's assassination did was force the national Democrat party to rally in relative unity on several issues, including then civil rights. I don't see how the successes of the Soviets would have prevented Kennedy's assassination, but even if it did it wouldn't have changed much regarding civil rights and racial tensions. The broad public support Kennedy is _seen_ as having is actually a result of the assassination. At the time of his re-election wasn't guaranteed. It is entirely possible that without his assassination he loses re-election, and that without passing a civil rights bill the Democrats lose one or two national elections. But the national Dems would fairly quickly change their position on civil rights as the opinions of Americans were changing on the issue. As LBJ saw it, it was simply electorally untenable to be in support or even just neutral towards segregation just to keep some Southern Democrat politicians happy. In order for there be significant tensions around the change of Kennedy's assassination: Kennedy would have to lose re-election > the Dems take that as meaning a pro-civil rights stance is not worth it > National Dems double down on ambiguity on civil rights > Dems lose several elections > poor Southern Democrat workers feel alienated from their national party and from the wider country > dissident Southern Dems are funded by the Soviets and link up with other dissident worker movements in Northern cities. But that's just trying to make Kennedy not being assassinated significant in the way you want it to be.

this was really great

Quite late to the comments here but what happened to: Australia and Japan in the alternate 2000s and 2010s?

I really like this scenario. It does sell how the US might lose well. Especially the Mexico intervention and following guerilla war there that does nothing but bleed America of money. Sort of like Afghanistan for the Soviets. It's still a little far-fetched, but no side is acting like to big idiots.

This entire video is just me doing the walter White Fall every five seconds😭😭💀

@18:40 a timeline where Patrice Lumumba lives would be great news not only for the Congo but Africa & PanAfricanism in general.

This is a nice video

I have to wonder if Japan would really be left untouched by the USSR in this scenario lol

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Very Nice Video

love the video

8:16, What if Yugoslavia was actually just an inland sea?

Blessed timeline

fantastic video but one thing, how do you know china wouldn’t push for border disputes with india?

Cool video

You lost me at the USSR getting Mexico. The PRI was the perfect dictatorship for the entire duration of the cold war and with it being US's Southern border the PRI would get massive support in the name of stopping communism making the end of the system and a coup impossible. Explaining how the PRI fails during the cold war will be a video longer than this one. You could have argued that the USSR uses the PRI to make Mexico a non-aligned nation and that making the US do some dumb thing. But certainly there would be no communsit revolution in Mexico

It's was funny to watch, but you are simply using U.S format to reflect it on CCCP. At the end i can't see Soviets caring much about the multipolarism in the same way the U.S hegemom does, since internationalism is pretty much one of the basics communism ideology. In a way it's not about win aganist other nations but aganist the ideology of imperialism.