What If Zeke Dies?

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You can kill Zeke instead of going for Tatiana, which causes some disturbing implications. Tatiana no longer shows up at Nuibaba's, and her cell is locked. Was she killed? Did she take her own life?
Rigel's villagers are also livid
Note: if Zeke dies as a green unit the villagers will still be pissed
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@IneedMyCringefail2 7 лет назад

The Thing i love about the special Dialogue is how everyone is insulting you and Alm is smiling like its nothing on the Bottom Screen.

@UnlimitedMrX 7 лет назад

Young Woman: I hope you ROT in the belly of a Necrodragon! Balm: "This is fine."

@mukuroikusaba7998 7 лет назад

Alm: Fools... Your insults only make me stronger!

@lpfan4491 7 лет назад

0:45 "keep walking you dastards!" alm:"ok :D" xD

@1803jose 7 лет назад

+Seismic Swan I see what you did there, you dastard.

@Le_Dom 7 лет назад

''Don't care, still got exp''

@Blazieth 5 лет назад

I'm pretty sure the implication is that Nuibaba sacrificed Tatiana like all the other girls. Let's be real, they were probably planning to sacrifice her anyway and just make Zeke THINK she's still alive to protect by being loyal. At latest, she would've done it as soon as she got word that Zeke had been killed in battle. No more reason to keep her alive at that point, after all.

@tropicalnu 7 лет назад

Well, damn. Nice to see they add in these little touches that really make this game unique.

@Ocsttiac 7 лет назад

Best part is that this was in the original Gaiden too.

@ChillstoneBlakeBlast 7 лет назад

Ocsttiac Yeah, but gaiden had so little dialouge and it almost did not feel present.

@josephwashburn5294 7 лет назад

ninja gaiden?

@JR384 7 лет назад

Fire Emblem Gaiden, Washburn. Y'know, the original version of Shadows of Valentia? God I hate dumbasses.

@JR384 7 лет назад

Except I didn't say any of that or act as such. Nice try at a comeback, but you only failed.

@adamrhodes9533 7 лет назад

As somone who always loved Camus, this was hard to watch...

@hibiki8473 7 лет назад

Camus you mean sirius right

@DiskCord 7 лет назад

hibiki847 you mean Xander right?

@hibiki8473 7 лет назад

What was i thinking of course its xander although maybe selina xander might be a trap

@arathercharismaticduck2796 7 лет назад

Eldigan?

@hibiki8473 7 лет назад

Are you asking who eldigan is cause he is a camus archetype

@nezz204 7 лет назад

"Have you ever seen a drocoshield before" *Alm holding one on his arm.* "What? You don't want a dracoshield?"

@SinNun-tx5jp 7 месяцев назад

You can never have enough Dracoshields!

@Theballadofahkim 2 года назад

Tatiana being killed and eaten up by some monster is honestly terrifying and disturbing to imagine if you don’t save her

@marc6109 7 лет назад

I ones killed Zeke before going to Nuibaba and then i realized i did something wrong So i restarted the whole game :-)

@theverydankghost9225 7 лет назад

You did the right thing.

@pez1850 7 лет назад

You are a good person

@grey4798 7 лет назад

Magically Clueless I did the same, im still in progress to getting back to where i was, im dreading the grinding i have to do all over again

@devynamana 7 лет назад

Magically Clueless you're a legend

@cynicismIncarnate 7 лет назад

Magically Clueless At least you did the Correct thing in the end.

@krabs6457 7 лет назад

oh no

@NotThatUser 7 лет назад

Mr. Krabs oh ok

@TheDarkReshiramlederp 7 лет назад

rip the chances of Tatiana eating cheese in this playthrough

@krabs6457 7 лет назад

TheDark Reshiram that's the worst part

@GuranPurin 6 лет назад

The funniest thing is, I actually had no idea I had to get Tatiana before fighting Zeke and Berkut. Fortunately (In this case) I actually lost to Zeke the first time so I went back to Nuibaba's route to grind, figuring she must be easier and when I found Tatiana, I was shook that I came this close to missing her and Zeke. That would have been depressing.

@wohdasunleashed 7 лет назад

Jesus. I mean I understand they lost Ezekiel but they had no idea that Zeke was being forced to fight till the battle had happen. oh well but this is still interesting

@wohdasunleashed 7 лет назад

Seismic Swan fair point

@TheHDEpics 6 лет назад

once a camus always a camus

@perkilatorxiii5179 4 года назад

This only makes me wish there was a special battle music that played when you fought a character you could potentially save. As in: -Deen -Sonya -Delthea -Zeke

@adamrhodes9533 7 лет назад

What if you free Tatiana, and then Zeke dies?

@adamrhodes9533 7 лет назад

But he's a Green Unit, meaning he can die.

@mykehroo 7 лет назад

There is the use of cheats, however. It's not like he hasn't used them before in his videos.

@adamrhodes9533 7 лет назад

I've heard that it's nearly impossible for Valbar to die, and yet he showed it off in a video.

@MaxBurnHeart 7 лет назад

I didn't even knew that Leon is actually that fragile as people says. In my hard/classic gameplay, he survived that battle with more than half hp, so... maybe just RNG thing. By the way, hi Swan! :D

@MaxBurnHeart 7 лет назад

Exactly. But more specifically, ft.Mangs facebook page. Szymon's my name. Maybe you recognise me. :D

@GinkgoPete 3 года назад

Broke "OMG you monster you killed Ezekiel" Woke "Berkut is such a hunk!!"

@zanniia7279 6 лет назад

I found Nuibaba way too challenging so I went this path first... worst decision of my life. When I went back and watched other people's gameplay I saw Taitiana and I was just thinking "woah is she dlc?!"

@yamisean3298 6 лет назад

Well... that means Princess Nyna stays posessed by Medeus and Marth will not get the best ending

@eevee1583 6 лет назад

Zeke turning against the enemy is probably one of the best moments in Echo's though.

@eeecool2 7 лет назад

i will elaborate this a bit more for you. if you visit the ezekiel map before going to nuibaba's abode, retreat from battle and THEN head to nuibaba's abode, tatiana will also be nowhere to be found. So it's not an event that is triggered by ezekiel's death per se. it's triggered by going left before going right. edit: nvm, just don't kill jerome before going right.

@eeecool2 7 лет назад

James Levison curious. Mb, I didn't retreat immediately. I killed jerome and then retreated from the battle, leaving ezekiel alive.

@onlyicedgarrett7791 7 лет назад

E. Salsbach Yeah, I'm pretty sure I went left first because I wanted to walk into the trap later rather than sooner, but then I saw how stacked Zeke and Jerome were and noped on out of there.

@paperluigi6132 6 лет назад

E. Salsbach I did that. No Tatiana. Instant reset

@thewarriorforce 7 лет назад

I killed this guy like I killed Tharja in Awakening, to which I had no idea I could have recruited in the first place in my first playthrough, interesting. Looks like I'm going to play it again.

@Dillon3861 7 лет назад

Trust me I made that mistake save file are important.

@ryangallagher9723 4 месяца назад

great game design right there; having you fight a recruitable character and not telling you what his deal is or how to recruit him until he's already dead. shouzou kaga was truly a genius.

@MLmaster135 7 лет назад

tfw some people in the village mention the dragon's maw but alm isn't trapped in it despite the whole village wanting him and his party to die to necrodragons

@corbanhayes2476 7 лет назад

...I didn't even know I could get this guy. Welp, my mistake. Still gonna carry on with the playthrough.

@sajanpatel4956 7 лет назад

I accidentally killed zeke my first run so i know all about this

@allergictohumansnotanimals5671 6 лет назад

Sajan Patel did u restart the game?

@ThePontusAndersson 7 лет назад

What happens if you recrude Est without Palla and Catria, but then she dies before speaking with them.

@JadestonePony 7 лет назад

Or what if either Palla, Catria, or both die before you rescue Est?

@CollectorTogami 7 лет назад

I may or may not be working on that

@DeadbeatTako 7 лет назад

Spare ur time. I acidentally didnt recruit palla/catria and est just had her normal recruitment but the 3 sisters thing taken out.

@Sergeikins 7 лет назад

Hector4President that's not the same as them dying.

@alec95 7 лет назад

I tried it, nothing happens.

@thebluerainbow 7 лет назад

O.... ow. Zeke and Tatiana are my favorite Echoes units (and my One True Pairing), so this hurts big time. ;A; Thanks for the video anyway. Keep up the good work.

@DryBones343 7 лет назад

I actually did this on my first run ;_; I knew he could be recruited but I didn't know I had to rescue Tatiana first

@gmanbedolla 7 лет назад

So during my first run I had no idea I was supposed to go save Tatiana first. After I realized that I had just killed zeke. So I ereased that save file and started all over. Worth it.

@lpfan4491 7 лет назад

Giancarlo Bedolla why would one do that tho? xD do all of you guys dont like to sidequest?

@ReineDeLaSeine14 7 лет назад

LPFan I couldn't beat Nuibaba so I went to Zeke first

@lpfan4491 7 лет назад

ReineDeLaSeine14 oh,i see. the mission was pretty hard for me too and i was playing on normal :'D archer tobin and cleric faye with the resshield did much of the work and it took looooooong

@VenTheKeybladeMaster 7 лет назад

Nuibaba was hell but thanks to Naga I had a cleric which could summon dreadknights (or what ever they are called in english) I just watched them kill their entire group °L°

@lpfan4491 7 лет назад

VenTheKeybladeMaster | Let's Plays lame tactics ._.

@mirellewordsmith6725 6 лет назад

At 2:13, the woman on the right next to Mathilda, when I caught a glimpse of hers I thought she was Princess Zelda for a moment... then realised we were in Valentia...

@DiamondEmpyrean8273 7 месяцев назад

Alm looks so cool with a Draco Shield!

@cheecanpeecan1838 7 лет назад

In my first blind play through, I thought I had to get Zeke first to get Tatiana. And since I was also scared of Nuibaba, I fought Jerome first to get Exp. And then when I went to the Village I saw all those people cursing Alm and all. And I thought they said that no matter what. It's not like I didn't clear the game without him though. I just... miss him.

@SillyRobotDog 7 лет назад

Wow they really do not care you got rid of Jerome they must have all truly love Ezekiel.

@BlahBlah-zb7es 7 лет назад

What if Mathilda dies, and you end up recruiting delthea. Or what if delthea dies.

@weychill1279 7 лет назад

venawartmander :3 he did the mathilda one

@Gnarfledarf 7 лет назад

% Mieu % I think he means "what if you recruit Delthea in the same playhtrough in which you let Mathilda die?".

@nicolaiolsen7437 7 лет назад

how come you're so helpful outside the fort?

@Track308 7 лет назад

If Dealthea Dies, her brother will scream at you but will still stay on your team anyway

@imjustjoshin2859 7 лет назад

Look at the description for the "What if Mathilda dies?" video. He put an update saying that nothing happens afterwards between alm and clive for saving delthea but not Mathilda

@gdaymaster8499 5 лет назад

When I was at the split, I went after Jerome & Zeke, saw how much I had to fight and was like, F THIS I'M OUT. I'm glad I listened to myself

@Tea_Noire 7 лет назад

2:24 Wait. Is the game implying that Tatiana. . .killed herself? Because if so, that is not okay.

@PotatoGurlSasha 7 лет назад

.midival_Minstrel Actually it's more like Nuibaba sacrificed Tatiana while Alm fought Zeke. The time you used to fight Zeke could have been the time you used to save Tatiana.

@ThatResidentEvilfan 7 лет назад

Seismic Swan She doesn't know about it. She only wishes that he would not remember his past and actually feels awful for wishing so. She's not a bad person.

@TechnoFall42 7 лет назад

Seismic Swan Umm wtf are you talking about. She hopes that his memories won't come back, because she's afraid he'll leave her. She knows nothing about his past.

@DigiPen92 7 лет назад

Seismic Swan Tatania founded Zeke at the shores, she doesn't know where he actually came from.

@devynamana 7 лет назад

.midival_Minstrel if she did, it doesn't. Make sense. How would she know he died? She's in a cell

@wigglingwiggs 7 лет назад

I think Tatiana just.... offed herself if so then that is just depressing

@MisterZebra42 7 лет назад

ready to meme Actually, since they were only holding her to control Zeke, it's more likely Nuibaba just killed her once Zeke was dead.

@toon6847 7 лет назад

My guess as why Tatiana isn't there is because she heard that zeke was killed in the line of battle and went to go join him in the afterlife

@makhyusnimakhyusni401 3 года назад

Well duh how they explain Mystery emblem Siriusly

@happymealgatorade6249 6 лет назад

I never fought Nuibaba so this is how things went down for me

@lukergamerz4455 7 лет назад

AKA: What happens when you somehow forget to go into Nuibaba's lair and have no idea Tatiana even exists.

@ShadowyNeko 7 лет назад

What if Catria and Palla die while Est survives the battle? I know the result is just a monologue on the battleresult screen but.. man it hurts

@mitchelld3 7 лет назад

This was my first playthrough lol

@yamiralejandrocastillodiaz2412 5 лет назад

You'll created a time paradox!!!

@azurestarseliph5926 6 лет назад

Ummm.....I think I might've created a time paradox

@devoteddesires8432 6 лет назад

They probably killed Tatiana when they found out Zeke died. They must of thought there was no use for her. That’s what I think happened.

@Subbysshop 7 лет назад

what if tatiana got killed before alm could get to her and zeke says oh good because he sees her in the after life either way this is darker than most fe games i like it

@zues2011 7 лет назад

Zeke's death sfx sounds epic tbh

@elfmonsterthe2nd715 7 лет назад

Pillars of modern warfare such as Sugar coating has no place in Valentia.

@RinOtonashi 5 лет назад

Shit! Now I have to start all over again!

@Phantom-T 6 лет назад

GAME OVER/TIME PARADOX. "Alm, what have you done?! You created a time paradox! You cant go changing the future like that!"

@sutranitsua 7 лет назад

I was too stubborn to turn down a chance to spar with Camus... So I killed him.

@ethank6452 3 года назад

I was going to fight Zeke, then fight Nuibaba when I got stronger. Turns out, that was a horrible idea.

@whiskerYT 6 лет назад

Tbh I almost accidentally did this, if it weren't for Alm dying and me having to start over, he would've been dead.

@an_impasse 2 года назад

To be fair, I didn't know saving Tatiana was an absolute requirement before facing Zeke...Nuibaba is so difficult.

@PapaSwall 7 лет назад

Well it looks like I'm restarting Echoes YET AGAIN :)

@JulianLulz 7 лет назад

What if one of the kids die in the prologue?

@smokejaguars5402 7 лет назад

They retreat.

@lpfan4491 7 лет назад

plus,its not bad for anything.celica was defeated on my playthrough....which is technicly not logical at all if i think about it. i guess i know now what that "the princess who refuses to die" actually means xD lol

@eevee1583 6 лет назад

JulianLulz then Gray becomes the leader of Alms story

@zarinakhan2115 5 лет назад

I would actually like that.

@freezeburn9875 3 года назад

@@eevee1583 lol imagine if you kill all of them and the credits roll

@tqnpersonal 6 лет назад

Alm really got Sirius

@YogurtArchangel 7 лет назад

You'd think they'd at least be a little happy Jerome being gone. Whiny Fire Emblem NPCs.

@ummwhat3527 7 лет назад

i did this💔 i didnt meaned to kill him, i just thinked that he will join us and he can deafet nuibaba with us ;-; i killed 3 people in alm's route now;-;

@flatearthsociety9271 6 лет назад

Tatiana or at i like to think someone told her of Zeke's death and she killed herself

@Crumble_n_use 3 года назад

I'll always regret not going to fight Nuibaba first

@nicosamo1999 4 года назад

What If Zeke Dies......you restart the game.

@lamyaislam4118 7 лет назад

What happens if you can't save Palla and Catria? I remember that Catria almost died on me.

@tanachisan Год назад

Well celica had deen and sonya recruitable but wasn't tricky like alm with zeke lol when you beat sonya you get yourself deen and alm beat dread fighter and still have to fight zeke but not kill him but i actually didnt know that i should not kill zeke and now i didn't recruited him 🙁

@FTWGamerTrue 5 лет назад

I went towards the town first cause I thought I would get quests to knock off to the left, but I messed up. I killed him.

@Kayla-po1wd 7 лет назад

Thing is I killed zens on accident I thought Tobin wasn't gonna kill him.I didn't even get Mathilda or Tatiana, I'm such a good Echoes player :).

@johnstevens3099 7 лет назад

zeke cant die. once you hurt him he will shift into the beast titan....... wait what? wrong zeke?!

@dizzyheads 7 лет назад

you can probably assume that becuase you were too busy fighting zeke Tatiana was taken away afterwards to be made a witch

@lfcrodrago9659 7 лет назад

Nah, it's implied by Alm in this video that it is most likely she killed herself.

@greenstatic180 5 лет назад

And thus, Yumina and Yubello died in 2 years.

@raphaelsorel6907 4 года назад

Assuming Ogma is incompetent and weak.

@n.l.g.6401 7 лет назад

Togami, stop tempting me to do an Extreme Fuckup playthrough...

@CollectorTogami 7 лет назад

@pinguyfrank4255 7 лет назад

i would have liked to see Tatiana cursing Alm for killing Zeke... =(

@johnnyngo7315 7 лет назад

hmm he shouldnt be possible to die since he appears in new mystery of the emblem

@SuperMiIk 7 лет назад

"Man"

@nintenstar12 7 лет назад

My guess is they no longer had any use for her so they killed her.

@lfcrodrago9659 7 лет назад

Ninten Star12 Nah she killed herself. implied by alm.

@Hallalemon 7 лет назад

Just leaves the peddlers in the prison... Hahaha

@maije15 7 лет назад

This shit happened to me...

@qazentro4444 7 лет назад

I think it's safe to assume Tatiana's absence might imply she was killed... maybe...

@lfcrodrago9659 7 лет назад

SigmaXVII_ or she killed herself.

@qazentro4444 7 лет назад

Robin The Master tactician I dunno, I find it hard to believe that Tatianna would be able to find something to kill herself with in a prison cell... I also I don't think she'd be the type to kill herself at all.

@JR384 5 лет назад

@@qazentro4444 One sadness can be their greatest weapon to kill oneself. There's a viable weapon your forgetting. The walls and bars of the cell. Should she consistently do it, she can give herself a pretty nasty would from blunt force trauma and likely bleed out to death.

@Nirvashtype 4 года назад

How do you recruit him do you go to his girl first or do you go to him

@foodman0388 3 года назад

I feel like if you kill Jerome then Zeke should just surrender and join you anyway

@beedieessem6446 7 лет назад

If you kill Zeke, basically what happens is they don't need Tatiana anymore cuz Zeke is dead, so Nuibaba is allowed to sacrifice Tatiana to Duma, cuz what else are they gonna do with her?

@amandagreene7008 6 лет назад

I've never killed or lost Zeke in my playthroughs. This is really sad though.

@georgeswagg413 7 лет назад

i know this too well

@8bit-nategaming905 7 лет назад

What if during the sluice gate mission you kill delthea instead of saving her, would Luthier leave the party? Better yet, You Fail to save Mathilda but save delthea?

@CollectorTogami 7 лет назад

I will have a Delthea video coming up next week, but here's what I can tell you. Even if Mathilda dies, Clive's dialogs do not change. Luthier stays in the party even if he kills his own sister.