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What is a Brush Gun? 

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In this video we pose the question, "what is a brush gun?" and attempt to shed a little light on the myth of big, flat bullets simply trucking through thick brush and thin pointy bullets veering off into the great unknown. Lets see what happens...
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Комментарии : 6 тыс.   
@harleyadam4813
@harleyadam4813 4 года назад
One of the first hunting-related guidelines my father instilled in me when I was a boy was "If you don't have a clear shot, don't pull the trigger."
@kennethwalker4551
@kennethwalker4551 4 года назад
Your father gave you solid advice but sometimes you just have to overcome obstacles.
@blaws6684
@blaws6684 4 года назад
Agreed kennth. Obstacles Like how to not be stupid and shoot when you know better
@charlescole7532
@charlescole7532 4 года назад
There can always be small twigs you can't see. I think that's the concern when shooting in the woods. You should never fire a gun in thick brush when you don't have a clear view of the target.
@blaws6684
@blaws6684 4 года назад
I can agree with you too Charles. Well said
@xallthatremains8339
@xallthatremains8339 4 года назад
Absolutely. So many guys spray and pray, injuring animals and giving responsible hunters a bad name. We need as few bad shots and poor judgment calls as possible. The animals we hunt deserve at least that
@claytonmcdonald9520
@claytonmcdonald9520 4 года назад
Don't shoot at anything when something is blocking your sight. Except for war. When I got back from overseas, I went in the " deer woods" with 3 other's. 2 where brothers, I stopped one brother from shooting through brush, I put my hand on the barrel and said no! We waited about 3 seconds and his brother walked out with the fourth guy. He just going to shoot thinking it was a moose. I left and never went out with them again. Be safe and sure, use your thinking compartment when in the deer woods.
@msg63bretired82
@msg63bretired82 3 года назад
That’s how “accidents” happen.
@wayneparker9331
@wayneparker9331 3 года назад
Exactly. I know that he was just demonstrating to prove a point regarding caliber and bullet design but watching him struggle to see the target made me nervous just sitting and watching from my computer.
@KarstRats
@KarstRats 3 года назад
Well they must not have been wearing blaze orange then. Their fault.
@gunnigundel1828
@gunnigundel1828 3 года назад
Here in Germany, a father accidentally shot his own son in a Situation like that. They were hunting hogs in a corn field. The son wanted to be funny and crawled around making pig noises. The father shot at the direction of the noise, and Killer his own son. Always know what you are shooting at.
@Ghostly73
@Ghostly73 2 года назад
@@KarstRats not everyone wears blaze orange. Same rule applies though- if you can't see it get your booger picker off the trigger
@philipdiaz3010
@philipdiaz3010 4 года назад
Love that quote, ".30 cal does expand, but a .58 doesn't shrink."
@dentalnovember
@dentalnovember 2 года назад
Did not take long to find the best comment. My thoughts exactly.
@Fred-eg9sx
@Fred-eg9sx 4 года назад
6.5 creedmore literally yeets itself sideways when it touches a leaf.
@jackclark1994
@jackclark1994 4 года назад
😂😂😂
@tuckerschwab5331
@tuckerschwab5331 4 года назад
Lol. i shot a deer through a tree about 1-2" around and hit the deer only a couples inches off with a 6.5
@tylermccune7092
@tylermccune7092 4 года назад
Chimkin Pot Pii There’s a 6.5 hater in every comment section
@tuckerschwab5331
@tuckerschwab5331 4 года назад
@@tylermccune7092 true and its kinda sad to be honest
@jamesusurper9676
@jamesusurper9676 4 года назад
😂
@davidjames2788
@davidjames2788 7 лет назад
This is why you should always hunt with a musket. You can't keyhole with a roundball.
@panther105
@panther105 7 лет назад
And they curve so neatly around big trees once they start spinning.
@jimmieackley4286
@jimmieackley4286 5 лет назад
Let's just use a cannon
@Brian-vz5cu
@Brian-vz5cu 5 лет назад
@Bill Randall yawing and a keyhole completely separate things.
@TheSiraffe
@TheSiraffe 5 лет назад
Bill Randall a spherical object cannot turn on its side. Which is what key-holing is
@robertkaraczun8906
@robertkaraczun8906 5 лет назад
Flint lock!
@herman5eight
@herman5eight 5 лет назад
The term Brush gun is a description of a short barrel, low velocity, light weight, easy to carry gun, in thick brush
@doctorartphd6463
@doctorartphd6463 5 лет назад
Almost like a Stagecoach gun ?
@happyjohn354
@happyjohn354 5 лет назад
@Hammer_of_creation or scout rifle...
@marshakrebs4348
@marshakrebs4348 5 лет назад
My view is a cheap gun but trusty something you don't care if gets banged up
@marshakrebs4348
@marshakrebs4348 5 лет назад
Hammer_of_creation you gotem better usem can't leave them at home just to say up you got one they are a tool so you use them I
@jamesleaty7308
@jamesleaty7308 5 лет назад
It's legal to use 50BMG on deer.
@brandonschleppy2230
@brandonschleppy2230 4 года назад
The smile on your face after firing the last 45-70 round was priceless! True happiness! Very fun video and worth the watch. Only thing missing is a 30-30. Yes it’s a little lightweight, but can definitely kill an Elk or deer.
@darkcircle899
@darkcircle899 Год назад
30-30 is a good deer cartridge and yes it can take an Elk but it's definitely not ideal. Elk going down after being shot with a 30-30n isn't pretty I would step up to a bigger cartridge for Elk.
@Ryanoceros06
@Ryanoceros06 Год назад
Killed my first deer with a 30-30. Shot in the shoulder and it dropped. Love that little round.
@tucoramirez8397
@tucoramirez8397 Год назад
I have a 45 70 Marlin SBL but I have Dads old JM 30 30 and I love that gun. Probably more deer dropped with a 30 30 over the years than any other round.
@carltonmclean9283
@carltonmclean9283 4 года назад
Excellent video showing the difference between a pointed (SPITZER) high velocity bullet vs a slower moving , heavier flat nose bullet moving through a brush type environment. When first being trained with a M16 carbine (semi & fully automatic) at the range at Lackland AFB in 1967, we were told that even small branches could cause the bullets to stray off target. We were told to shoot when we had a clear targets! I never liked the looks of the M -16s despite aquiring a small arms expert ribbon using one & decades later I purchased an AR-15 type firearm (Sig Sauer M400) and it is nice to shoot because of its low recoil. My Marlin 336, .35 Rem LEVER Action, is a lot of fun to shoot also but after a couple of boxes are used, my shoulder begins to feel it. Ha! After passing the 70 yard line, eyesight & eye-hand coordination are not the same as they were in my 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, & 60s. So is life!
@RT42069
@RT42069 5 лет назад
"45-70 is the best brush gun" 12G slug gun: "Hold my beer"
@scareypete13
@scareypete13 5 лет назад
I've cut down saplings with my Mossberg
@docod-vq6iv
@docod-vq6iv 5 лет назад
“Hold my Kool-aid”
@MrGrxxx123
@MrGrxxx123 5 лет назад
10 gauge slugs git'erdun!
@auklin7079
@auklin7079 5 лет назад
* "Hold my deer"
@Betterhose
@Betterhose 5 лет назад
I have a Benelli SuperNova, capable of firing 3½inch shells. My Winchester Super XX Magnum Turkey loads already have the energy of a .308, but with 63g of shot. Some day I will make some slugs and see how they will perform. 😁
@martinmiller1087
@martinmiller1087 7 лет назад
I am an Army Vietnam combat infantry NCO. Once the teething pains of the M-16 (chrome bbl and chamber and ball powder in the cartridges) were sorted out, in my opinion, it was a better rifle for that theater than was the M-14. In a year of combat in RVN (68-69 in III Corps) my well-maintained M-16 never let me down. My only gripe was that shooting at running targets beyond 300 meters, the 55 grain projectiles did not show any visible impact on the terrain for adjustment of elevation and lead. Contrarily, it is also my opinion that the the M-14 was a much better rifle than the M-16 or M-4 for battle in Afghanistan and Iraq, with the exception of urban entry battle. I enjoy your videos, Iraq Vet 8888. Well done and welcome home.
@Iraqveteran8888
@Iraqveteran8888 7 лет назад
Thank you for your service sir. Yes many M-14s were brought out of storage and the better rifles were usually put into chassis systems and scoped. A lot of folks found that rapid follow up shots were necessary in both urban environments as well as out in vast open areas in the mountains. Personally, for A theater such as Afghanistan, to me, I'd run a .300 Win Mag semi auto if I had the choice in the matter...😇
@Chromatic_Death
@Chromatic_Death 7 лет назад
God bless you, man. I have nothing but immense respect for everyone who was sent overseas in Vietnam, what a nightmare.
@BikerDash
@BikerDash 7 лет назад
I thank you, brother, for your time you have given our beloved Nation. As for distant targets with the 5.56 round, that is the reason the US went with a heavier projectile in the M-16 rifles. Supposedly, the new round was good on targets out to 500 or more yards. Personally, if I had to regularly shoot at long distance, I want an AR-10 in 7.62 NATO. As much as I like the M-14 platform, the AR platform is what I am most familiar with, and with that familiarity, and that is what I would perform best with. Thank you again. Corporal Justin P. Emery, USMC (91-95)
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne 2 года назад
After seeing this you would have been better with big bore leaver actions in Vietnam!
@martinmiller1087
@martinmiller1087 2 года назад
@@Gieszkanne Only a moron would choose to carry a big bore lever action in a high intensity infantry war against a near peer enemy.
@kolinmartz
@kolinmartz 3 года назад
I’m a bad shot so I’m gonna blame my rifle for not being a “brush gun” for costing me the “trophy of a lifetime.”
@hotsoss1095
@hotsoss1095 2 года назад
Trees exist kolin sorry about reality
@marcushale1931
@marcushale1931 Год назад
I always thought a Brush Gun was a beater you don't mind dragging through the briars all day. Additionally, it doesn't have to be a long range firearm and it needs to be easy to handle. Up until the proliferation of ARs and AKs, the only game in town were lever actions.
@droppinplates6665
@droppinplates6665 7 лет назад
was surprised to not see a 3030 in this video just cause all the old heads swear by the 3030 and say its a good brush gun of course not like a 45 70 but many folks tend to think of a 3030 as a solid brush gun
@spaceforcecommander9062
@spaceforcecommander9062 7 лет назад
droppin plates same I grew up with the 3030 as my brush gun by my family. got a lot of slack for it from guys using a 30-06 till I'd out shoot them with iron sights.
@napalm390
@napalm390 7 лет назад
I grew up in Missouri, in a forest with sometimes quite thick brush and never had a problem killing deer with my dad's marlin 30-30. I'm not claiming the caliber to be the absolute best or anything, but I liked it a lot and was sorry when my dad had to sell it when I was in the Military. I live in Arizona now where the 30-30 is not as useful at the longer ranges you can get but I still have a Marlin 30-30 336c just for nostalgia's sake, if nothing else.
@spaceforcecommander9062
@spaceforcecommander9062 7 лет назад
Rotary Saw I live in nevada now and rather have been trying to decide between the 3030 or something for longer ranges here. sold my 3030 when I got out of the army. miss that rifle but if I'm gonna go range I'm looking at .308 or 6.5 Creedmoor.
@napalm390
@napalm390 7 лет назад
For my dollar, I'd go .308, I don't know much about 6.5 Creedmoor. A quick look at the ballistics data seems to me like .308 winchester has it beat all out, unless like I said there is something I'm not seeing..
@Kjklump
@Kjklump 7 лет назад
.308 is hard to beat inside 800yds due to popularity, availability and the shear amount of data on the load, I personally think the 7mm-08 is better at distance.
@natemullikin6248
@natemullikin6248 5 лет назад
Missed out by leaving out 30-30 and 12G.
@heribertoortiz7011
@heribertoortiz7011 4 года назад
:(
@ezyturner3753
@ezyturner3753 4 года назад
30-30 is a good brush gun!!
@ryanedwards4512
@ryanedwards4512 4 года назад
I agree
@southjerseysound7340
@southjerseysound7340 4 года назад
@@ezyturner3753 I've got a pair of Winchester 94"s one in 44mag and the other is a 30-30 and both are great in the brush.
@nicholecrouch311
@nicholecrouch311 4 года назад
That's what I was thinking to my 30 30 with some Flathead bullets can cut right through some brush but I wouldn't try shooting a hundred yards through brush
@mrbrown3462
@mrbrown3462 2 года назад
30/30 and 303 are our brush guns. My father was a Vietnam vet and came back with a love for the 303 and after years of watching what the round does it has been a staple in our family it's one that doesn't get the attention it deserves all you ever hear today is 5.56,223, 7.62,7.65 hear very little of the British 303 and it's actually a versitile round. My father spoke of his time in Vietnam where they were trading m16s for old enfields and some of the guys were laying fire with those old bolt actions as fast as semi autos if not faster in the jungles and swamps.
@brianlee6849
@brianlee6849 4 года назад
Great test! I heard a guy say one time that there is no such thing as a brush gun. I think in heavy brush the heavier grain the better. Basic physics the heavier bullet has better momentum to stay on its path the lighter bullet is going to be deflected easier. But you definitely proved it! Thank you very much that was very fun and interesting.
@astang1072
@astang1072 7 лет назад
A brush gun is an M134 minigun. It takes down brush real good.
@thedodob1rd
@thedodob1rd 6 лет назад
perpendurcular 720 Phanlax CWIS. Nuff said
@cesarsr2090
@cesarsr2090 6 лет назад
wtf are u saying bro?? U don´t understand the concept of a brush gun, a brush gun is a slow and powerfull bullet the minigun, bullets aren´t slow
@thedodob1rd
@thedodob1rd 6 лет назад
@@cesarsr2090 why have a gun that won't be pushed around by brush when you can destroy the brush. Deer and the 6 houses behind it
@thedodob1rd
@thedodob1rd 6 лет назад
@Paul Kersey Pfft that's my CCW. I use 105mm
@zedzero77
@zedzero77 6 лет назад
Especially when fired by Jesse Ventura (Blain)
@SuperSneakySteve
@SuperSneakySteve 7 лет назад
A brush gun is a gun that can shoot through brush. Done.
@TheBobmoorensons
@TheBobmoorensons 4 года назад
I've always called my 3030 a brush gun and been told it's a brush gun. I know guys on bear hunts who carried a 3030 for close calls. Like walking up on an unknown bear in the brush and it charge. But they had high powered rifles for long open shots like the 300 mag. Plus I'd like to see a 300 mag tested here.
@CorePathway
@CorePathway 2 года назад
.35 Remington does the .30-30 one better. Re: 300 win mag, what’s to test on a 180 grain moving at 3200 FPS besides how dead the target is.
@A.Chp-Schweppes
@A.Chp-Schweppes 2 года назад
then a 12 ga slug would be perfect for a thick brush with short distance. And this is confirming that in thick and dense woods of the South there's no need to a rifle/carbine to go hunting,, and even for home defense shotguns are so versatile, it's my go-to firearm.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodli3559
I prefer to use a 40mm grenade launcher for a brush gun
@cykabazooka4098
@cykabazooka4098 5 лет назад
No way a tow missile launcher is the way to go
@latebloomer4959
@latebloomer4959 5 лет назад
Ha child’s play I use a 90mm m2 anti tank gun
@TorquemadaRex
@TorquemadaRex 5 лет назад
@@cykabazooka4098 He also save a lot of knife work after that.
@bodhisattvya
@bodhisattvya 5 лет назад
Can you imagine a 40mm Foster Slug?
@mochaisdashit4
@mochaisdashit4 5 лет назад
Is this a fallout new vegas reference?
@Iraqveteran8888
@Iraqveteran8888 7 лет назад
Leave your comments here and let me know what you want us to shoot through some REALLY thick brush....
@Sinwave1000
@Sinwave1000 7 лет назад
Iraqveteran8888 30-30, 458 Socom, 30-06, 7.62x54r, 303 brit. lol I wanna see the mosin especially.
@jaedenharroun2244
@jaedenharroun2244 7 лет назад
20 gauge slug
@murphysmuskets
@murphysmuskets 7 лет назад
I'd like to see what 5.56 will do when loaded with a round nose bullet!
@MrErensarier
@MrErensarier 7 лет назад
german g3
@Gungeek
@Gungeek 7 лет назад
160 gr. 6.5 Carcano :)
@briankelly2886
@briankelly2886 Год назад
A brush gun is whatever you can shoot fast and accurately to pick a hole to shoot through when the vitals appear in that hole!
@jeffrichards1537
@jeffrichards1537 Год назад
I'm from west virginia and best brush gun I was taught to used is a 30-30. I used a marlin when I first started.
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou Год назад
People sleep on the .30-30 these days but it's still a great round. Gotta love a classic M94 .30-30.
@sancheznish8285
@sancheznish8285 Год назад
I’m looking at getting my first lever action and you seem to be the right guy to ask, is there a huge difference between Henery and marlin? I’ve always wanted a marlin but some people will tell ya to go the other way and others will swear on the opposite, what do you prefer and is there any reason?
@springfield03sniper
@springfield03sniper Год назад
@@sancheznish8285 Henry is of higher quality in my opinion, but a I hear the newer Marlins that were manufactured by Ruger, are quite good for the money.
@sancheznish8285
@sancheznish8285 Год назад
@@springfield03sniper that helps a ton, I’ll have to look into the rouger made marlins, certainly gives me a baseline! Much appreciated
@uglahhmane
@uglahhmane Год назад
I've got an older Model Marlin 30-30. I've used it for 20+ years. They are hit and miss. Not the most accurate guns. I've hit deer from 100+ yards with iron sights right through the heart, and I've missed other with s steady shot under 50 yards with a good sighted scope. Wish 30-30 would've been in this video. I'm wondering if my misses can be attributed to deflection. I can't speak for the new Marlins.
@surfearth1
@surfearth1 4 года назад
In Pennsyltucky the 30/30 was always considered to be a brush gun. I’d be interested to see that added to the comparison.
@jakespitzley1621
@jakespitzley1621 2 года назад
Same in Michigan I was hoping he’d test that too
@marktemplin1159
@marktemplin1159 2 года назад
In pa 30/30, 35 rem, and 243, are the Cal to go to,,, 1shot 1 drop👍
@williameberhart3505
@williameberhart3505 2 года назад
I'd like to see the .38/.357 & .44 spl/mag shot too.
@surfearth1
@surfearth1 2 года назад
@@marktemplin1159 243 is a nice caliber. My father religiously hunted with his 243. This year my daughter got her first deer, using his rifle. Zero damage of the meat but an instant humane kill with no tracking required.
@marktemplin1159
@marktemplin1159 2 года назад
@@surfearth1 Iv dropped only 5 deer in my life,, going out and being there is what it's about for me,, but all 5, with my rem 788, 243,, not one took more than a step,, and if one takes there time and hots it right,, maybe some shoulder meat gets chewed up,, but it is an excellent caliber,, there are others,, and I'm only saying I found mine, and need no other 👍
@terrygraham1877
@terrygraham1877 7 лет назад
I was raised on a horse ranch, our brush gun, as is being called here, is what we called a 'saddle gun...scabbard rifle that, if you had to, was short and handy when you crawled through thick brush. We used lever action.30-30's. Good video, good info. Thanks
@traymuse3810
@traymuse3810 7 лет назад
ok cowboy
@waltlars3687
@waltlars3687 7 лет назад
Terry Graham or a Winchester 1886 in 45-70 or any of the Marlin 1894s big bores 44 and 45 hard cast SWC
@EndingTimes0
@EndingTimes0 7 лет назад
Walt Lars you're making me want one just so I can cast some big hunks of lead..
@waltlars3687
@waltlars3687 7 лет назад
44M or 45 LC 10 rounds throwing half a Oz of lead each great brush gun
@terrygraham1877
@terrygraham1877 7 лет назад
Winchester 94 30-30
@mbuchart2927
@mbuchart2927 2 года назад
Your two brush gun videos together are excellent. They perfectly illustrate the points being made.
@mitchelljordan447
@mitchelljordan447 4 года назад
"Yew hew hew even that piece of privet head got cutted in half!" Hahaha yesss instant like
@JunkfoodZombieGuns
@JunkfoodZombieGuns 7 лет назад
I would have liked to see where the .30-30 stood in this test.
@edwardpate6128
@edwardpate6128 7 лет назад
That round probably has taken more deer over the last 125 years than any other.
@JunkfoodZombieGuns
@JunkfoodZombieGuns 7 лет назад
Edward Pate I would say that's likely true. I'm just speaking specifically to the effect of brush on projectile trajectory.
@boyperfect35
@boyperfect35 7 лет назад
JunkfoodZombie I don't know if you would want to use a 30-30 for hunting I can only take 5 shots without flinching
@JunkfoodZombieGuns
@JunkfoodZombieGuns 7 лет назад
BOY Perfect I shoot a .45-70 regularly. The .30-30 ain't no thang. 😊
@wishinifishin5172
@wishinifishin5172 7 лет назад
BOY Perfect 30-30 is the perfect starter gun for a young hunter. not much punch. I started off on a 32special. pretty similar. I now sport a 300 mag. that will set ya back a bit.
@rangered2010
@rangered2010 5 лет назад
Make sure it's Brush season! Not just Brier patch season, two different things! It took me years to shoot enough pine brush to build my cabin!
@chuckydubree1925
@chuckydubree1925 3 года назад
Hell yeah ,that's a good one,I think he should have tried a sling shot, and maybe throw a few hatchets
@chuckydubree1925
@chuckydubree1925 3 года назад
I did enjoy the video good info
@geronimo67
@geronimo67 3 года назад
That Henry 45-70 All Weather will be my next rifle :)
@sir.tempest5718
@sir.tempest5718 3 года назад
@Ray Adams henry has a side gate line, so they are the top dogs again.
@genekelley7579
@genekelley7579 4 года назад
Yep....35 Remington just like my grandfather said. His gun (that I still have) is a Remington Model 14 Pump, in 35 Remington. 👍 It goes through brush and knocks holes in Whitetails. Exit wounds are pretty dramatic.
@paulechols
@paulechols 5 лет назад
I have always thought a brush gun was a shorter barreled weapon that could be easily brought up to Target in thick brush, like a bear gun for protection?
@devonasher7857
@devonasher7857 5 лет назад
Works good for hogs too if they live in your area.
@lennyd.9270
@lennyd.9270 5 лет назад
A 444 , 30-30 or 45-70 works great in the bush.
@kevinmccullough4487
@kevinmccullough4487 4 года назад
Hit the nail on the head.
@santiagohulkmuniez3394
@santiagohulkmuniez3394 4 года назад
Correct
@GunsWithGage
@GunsWithGage 7 лет назад
Great! Instead of explaining to my wife why I need a "Brush Gun" I can show her this video! But for real, that you for this great content.
@wesjwaandrews7524
@wesjwaandrews7524 7 лет назад
GunsWithGage I hope for future videos for you to convince your wife to buy more guns
@GunsWithGage
@GunsWithGage 7 лет назад
wesjwa andrews thanks. Me too. Haha
@wesjwaandrews7524
@wesjwaandrews7524 7 лет назад
GunsWithGage good luck on that note. lol
@taolandin
@taolandin 7 лет назад
Why do you need to ask your wife's permission to buy things you enjoy with your own money?
@GunsWithGage
@GunsWithGage 7 лет назад
Rad Bromance it was a joke. My wife loves guns as much as me luckily
@trevorkimber7434
@trevorkimber7434 4 года назад
When I’m out in the brush I always bring my medicinal m1a1 Abrahams
@brianhuerta9030
@brianhuerta9030 4 года назад
I've always thought a brush gun is a small gun to move easily through heavy brush. Like a 30-30. Had no idea it has to do with the caliber. Cool video thanks.
@skydogx4
@skydogx4 Год назад
Or .44 carbine -- short but powerful!!
@weebles1695
@weebles1695 7 лет назад
Brush Gun was beast in Fallout New Vegas
@jayjay0136
@jayjay0136 7 лет назад
tictac gaming haha yeah that gun was badass
@dylangreen9819
@dylangreen9819 7 лет назад
tictac gaming yes
@StylinandRaciallyProfilin
@StylinandRaciallyProfilin 7 лет назад
medicine stick. you have no idea how many legionnaires i had to kill to get the caps to buy that thing.
@jayjay0136
@jayjay0136 7 лет назад
KYh3adhunter lol I got like 500,000 caps on that game
@StylinandRaciallyProfilin
@StylinandRaciallyProfilin 7 лет назад
MississippiOutlaw good times, good times. i hope obsidian can make another fallout game.
@17nhvrailroader
@17nhvrailroader 5 лет назад
1:52 - .22 LR 3:30 - 5.56 mm/.223 Remington 5:25 - 7.62 mm/.308 Winchester 7:33 - .35 Remington 10:09 - .444 Marlin 12:24 - .45-70 Govt. 14:59 - .577 Snider You're welcome :)
@samhollan4570
@samhollan4570 5 лет назад
Thank you
@SloppyballsMcGuillicutty
@SloppyballsMcGuillicutty 5 лет назад
👍
@GLOOMYSIDE
@GLOOMYSIDE 5 лет назад
The real hero of the comments.
@kasdaye224
@kasdaye224 5 лет назад
You sir are a mvp
@rolandodennis8385
@rolandodennis8385 4 года назад
NHV Railroader thank you!
@brucepeck230
@brucepeck230 4 года назад
I inherited my grandfathers favorite rifle. A Winchester 3030. What he called his brush gun. He used it to hunt deer in the hills of West Virginia. The best brush gun I have ever used. The one gun I own that ALL my friends wish they had. Given to him on the event of my birth by my mother in 1953. I cherish this gun.
@dwightvoeks9970
@dwightvoeks9970 Год назад
I have a Winchester Model 94 in .32 Special. I have yet to see a review of that cartridge. I still use it for west coast blacktails.
@ratta_tat
@ratta_tat Год назад
I've found a few videos. It's of interest to me because I just inherited my grandfather's model 94 in 32 spec!. I spent a couple hours cleaning and tinkering with it. I'm pretty excited.
@misterbacon4933
@misterbacon4933 4 года назад
Amazing I never knew that high velocity bullets are easier to change direction. It shows that old bullets with low velocity has their advantages. A nice test! Very impressive.
@gunfunandstuff9226
@gunfunandstuff9226 3 года назад
Just think of it as a Corolla doing 100mph vs. a dump truck doing 75mph.....both "may" have the same energy, but the lighter Corolla will be easier to change directions upon hitting something....including wind.
@LameWolff
@LameWolff 7 лет назад
I am 56 years old and have hunted all my life in thick cover. A brush gun is more a short barreled gun than a caliber, such as a carbine with a low power scope or iron sights, that is easier to handle in thick cover than a full size rifle. A shot shouldn't be taken until the animal gives you an open shot... A Ruger 77 carbine in .260 Rem. has worked well for me for many years.
@bradcook2383
@bradcook2383 7 лет назад
That's what I was told I used a Model 94 win. in 30/30 my first year when you are walking the trails you really don't want a large gun short barrel no scope & heaven forbid you drop it good old iron sites still worked not to many scopes would work after you dropped them .
@jeffreybiscoe6
@jeffreybiscoe6 7 лет назад
Bryan: What I thought too
@seanstrickland4970
@seanstrickland4970 7 лет назад
Bryan thats what ive always thought, a small gun with a kick designed for bears or large game. Bush pilots used them, I could be wrong.
@mememaster147
@mememaster147 7 лет назад
I thought it'd be a gun disguised as a brush, like how a swordstick is a sword disguised as a walking stick.
@zakutheferret8182
@zakutheferret8182 7 лет назад
Meme Master This... Is my BROOMSTICK!
@LibertyFromLead
@LibertyFromLead 3 года назад
👍🇺🇸🐍💪.thanks for the video Eric. I love mine. I found it about three years ago at a lgs here in NW AL. Its a Marlin 336 in 30-30 and from what I've researched its made in 1976 and has the JM stamped barrel. Luckily although been used its still in awesome condition . I payed up a little bit I think bc it was worth it to me bc you never see the older ones especially in good condition. So I don't think $475 total was too bad all things considered. And like your area there in Georgia, here in NW AL its mostly brushy land and hard to find 150+ open yard shots. Even though I have other calibers in other platforms, my go-to for deer and hog is that one. 30-30 is still very relevant. Even heard its probably took the most deer of any others. Who really knows though. Really doesn't matter. But thanks man and take care.
@ronaldcooper66
@ronaldcooper66 4 года назад
Would have similar results as the 35 with the overlooked 45LC. Every deer I shot was dropped where it stood with one round.
@rileyatkinson6737
@rileyatkinson6737 7 лет назад
I would want to see how a slug does
@texicano_fxdls3411
@texicano_fxdls3411 7 лет назад
alpha dragon 16 good idea I'd like to see this too
@Titan-gs6cf
@Titan-gs6cf 7 лет назад
I'd like to see some custom loads too. That'd be cool.
@SimonsDiscoveries
@SimonsDiscoveries 7 лет назад
I've heard people say slugs go right through the brush like there's nothing in their way. On the other hand I've also heard about some crazy ricochets of twigs. That said, you shouldn't really be shooting at an animal if you can't even see it properly. That's not safe. It could be something/someone you don't want to kill.
@PIERCESTORM
@PIERCESTORM 7 лет назад
alpha dragon 16 I would want to see how well gandhi does
@beartakedown7196
@beartakedown7196 7 лет назад
alpha dragon 16 they do really good I killed a buck in a River bottom with 1 1/4 oz light field at 80 yards all brush
@mikerose51
@mikerose51 4 года назад
How dare you call *THAT* a “Gong” Hickok 45 would be saddened
@efrainjimenez67
@efrainjimenez67 4 года назад
I was thinking the same😂
@ironwoodnf
@ironwoodnf 4 года назад
ever see the price!?!?I was saddened
@redfan15
@redfan15 2 года назад
Hickock would never go in the "Deer Woods" either
@vynnyn5489
@vynnyn5489 3 года назад
Awesome quote for a t-shirt! "A 30 cal, yeah it expands but a 58 baby, it doesn't shrink!"
@Lawman47
@Lawman47 4 года назад
I hunt by pulling a “Thanos”. I pull a planet out of the sky onto my game. 45 70 was too small. Those rabbits never saw me coming....
@beckhamhome
@beckhamhome 7 лет назад
Several years ago one of the gun magazines put out a different test on the effects of brush. A piece of pegboard had rows of 1/4" wood pegs attached. Then firing along the row of pegs it was noted that light fast bullets deflected greater than the slower heavier bores. Conclusion was when a 55 gr 223 hit a twig at 3000 fps the twig also hit the bullet at 3000 fps. 45-70 405 gr bullets plowed a straighter line through the pegs
@LionquestFitness
@LionquestFitness 7 лет назад
Eric - you really captured the essence of what Barry brought to the table with this one. Hard to explain, but I know Barry would be smiling.
@Chuck_Carolina
@Chuck_Carolina 2 года назад
Pretty thick brush for a 30/30, but in the real world it would be all one would need. Good review, Semper Fi.
@mjoelnir1899
@mjoelnir1899 Год назад
My brush gun is a drilling with two 12 gauge side by side and one 9.3 x 74R below. I can put an extra 9.3 insert barrel into one of the 12 gauge barrels, but in brush a Brenneke slug works well. I have a second set of barrels with two 12 gauge and one 7 x 57R. Again with an extra insert barrel. I also have an insert barrel in 22 WMR. I used to carry an repeater. But than I inherited the Drilling with all the stuff and I have not used another gun for hunting since than. The Drilling is a short weapon compared to a repeater with the same barrel length. The insert barrels keep their aim once adjuster when removing and reinstalling them. Everything in one carry case.
@PokeMaster1151
@PokeMaster1151 7 лет назад
where the hell Is the 30.30??????????????
@tmanthekid4396
@tmanthekid4396 7 лет назад
This is about big heavy bullets that can smash through anything. I love the 3030 but my 4570 will go through a tree. To see what I mean look up 4570vs3030 under images and you will see it
@PokeMaster1151
@PokeMaster1151 7 лет назад
+Tmanthekid 30.30 is the most rejoin brush gun of them hell it should at least be I the video even if ain't the most powerful
@PokeMaster1151
@PokeMaster1151 7 лет назад
+andrew hill renoun*
@SombraPiloto
@SombraPiloto 7 лет назад
I think the word you're looking for is "renowned".
@plowboysghost
@plowboysghost 7 лет назад
I'd expect the 30/30 to be less prone to deflection than the .308. Probably close to the .35 Rem. in the video.
@sevinstorey4365
@sevinstorey4365 4 года назад
I was taught growing up that a 30-30 is the standard by which all brush guns are measured.
@gabbyhayes1568
@gabbyhayes1568 4 года назад
Sevin Storey Agreed, but that includes most lever action rifles. For example, how else would you describe a.44 mag lever action but as a “brush gun”?
@destynova4512
@destynova4512 4 года назад
Yup, but basically thought any lever action Carbine with a caliber larger than .22 was pretty much a brush gun.
@sevinstorey4365
@sevinstorey4365 4 года назад
@@destynova4512 that's not true. I don't know your background or your history but where I'm from and I was raised in the mountains of Eastern Alabama the foothills of the Smokies, the 30/30 Winchester was definitely the go-to rifle. Now if you are out in the plains of Montana or Kansas and you could get off a 500 yard shot yeah then a 223, or a 30-06 would work. But when you were in those mountains and Hollows and surrounded by lots of shrubs and 3 inch or smaller trees then your go-to was definitely a 30-30 because it would plow through all that and still be able to make a kill shot I did it several times. Those other rifles would graze off of or ricoshit and guess what you just missed your deer. When the woods are thick the way they were where I grew up a 30-30 is the only rifle to have. Period. People talk crap about the 30-30 but I have actually set up a Target at 500 yards and hit the target even though their website claims 800 to a thousand yards and even up to 1200 yards if you can make the shot I feel more comfortable at 500 yards if I'm trying to humanely take an animal. But if I am in the middle a very thick brush and I can see a buck topping a ridge at 200 yards away and slowly making his way down into the valley I would have no problem at all lining him up and I don't use a scope don't need one and either taking a backbone shot where he Falls immediately which I've done several times or if I can see a heart shot where I can track him 40 or 50 yards, then that's my family's and some close friends supper and jerky for a month.
@destynova4512
@destynova4512 4 года назад
@@sevinstorey4365 hey I get it, just saying I'm from the desert, just agreeing always thought 30-30s and such are brush guns. Depends where you hunt, where I'm at a .357 could be a brush gun. Odds are you will see the buck within 100 to 50ft in the brush here. Want whatever you can confidently pick up and shoot quick accurately at that point.
@smokedbrisket3033
@smokedbrisket3033 4 года назад
@@sevinstorey4365 - hmmm...don't think I'd classify a .223 as a 500 yd cartridge for anything except opfor.
@longshot7590
@longshot7590 4 года назад
Awesome testing! I always thought "brush gun" meant smaller rifle (like a lever action) but now I understand total concept. I think if you redid some of this with the LEVERevolution shaped bullets I wonder if the results for those heavy calibers are the same? Or is the profile of the tip a big factor too?
@coultonharmon2266
@coultonharmon2266 2 года назад
.22: "It's not my shooting, this can hit a tack" .35: "I'm shooting at a target that's very hard to see and if you could see it better you could kill it"
@bsmith6528
@bsmith6528 7 лет назад
The 30-30 has killed more deer than any other rifle caliber but you left it out. Second caliber with most deer kills would probably be 30-06 and you left it out too.
@traymuse3810
@traymuse3810 7 лет назад
Tell em Freak
@chriskoederSr
@chriskoederSr 7 лет назад
Freak Beast Just got one with my 30-30 the other day.
@misterlopez7740
@misterlopez7740 7 лет назад
I don't think he left anything out. I think Eric set out to make a vid simply explaining what a brush gun is and how the bullet dynamics work.
@convex7456
@convex7456 7 лет назад
Freak Beast 30 06 has killed more deer. atleast with a my extended friends and family.
@67bowman
@67bowman 7 лет назад
Freak Beast that's what my brush gun is 30-30 very good gun.
@ThePoopsMcGee
@ThePoopsMcGee 5 лет назад
“Deer woods”... That’s like going to your doctor for info and then saying your headache is in your “think holder”.
@thereelangler2391
@thereelangler2391 4 года назад
I literally laughed out loud at this and almost choked on my coffee trying to drink with my breath hole.
@stroppy3245
@stroppy3245 4 года назад
“Think holder” is obsolete, because it’s called a brain. Deer woods may be a southern term, and if not it’s more efficient than saying in “woods where there may be deer”.
@blaws6684
@blaws6684 4 года назад
Well I’m headed to my deer woods with my meat getter right now so stay tuned on this people connecter thing
@retrobeast2745
@retrobeast2745 4 года назад
CHOGAN there's absolutely nothing wrong with saying that
@rayray8687
@rayray8687 4 года назад
CHOGAN: I imagine a lot of people will find this hard to believe but every animal has a preferred or suitable habitat for survival...so not every wooded area is suitable for or inhabited by deer. As a youth I could lead you to rabbit warrens, deer woods and duck ponds, beaver dams, ant hills and snake pits. If you’re going to hunt successfully you need to understand this basic concept - go to where the animals are, not to where you would like them to be. There is nothing ridiculous about the term “deer woods”...unless of course you’re a complete amateur.
@jamesallen7259
@jamesallen7259 4 года назад
Suddenly I need a brush gun. Good video.
@anposen4637
@anposen4637 3 года назад
Results are predictible but I died at "if you hunting through the thick stuff for a Bambi"
@realsharpknives7988
@realsharpknives7988 7 лет назад
Born in 1950 I can say I was taught that "brush gun" was a short barrel lever action that was easy to navigate with in heavy brush.
@garypollard9770
@garypollard9770 4 года назад
Real Sharp Knives, most of them are or used to be. I always referred to a “brush gun” as a big slower bullet that there wasn’t much deflection through the brush. That was a short barrel lever gun back in the day. .35 Remington, .44 mag, .444, .30-30, .45-70. Never considered the smaller faster calibers as a brush gun because the brush would turn on of these lighter bullets.
@seanhazelwood3311
@seanhazelwood3311 6 лет назад
From growing up in thick forest and heavy brush...A "brush gun" is short-barrelled, .30cal or greater, shooting a fat/heavy bullet, with iron sights. Short barrel is easier to swing around in thick brush. Large caliber/heavy bullet won't deflect against brush. (leaves and light branches that deflect small/fast bullets). Iron sights are faster to acquire and do not "blur" against brush like scopes do. At close range, a slow heavy bullet is best against a dangerous predator (bear, cougar, etc.)
@basketcase6846
@basketcase6846 5 лет назад
Yep that exactly what I was taught by old timers I grew up around 30 cal or greater
@A-G-F-
@A-G-F- 5 лет назад
That what i tought, shooting trough brush is not safe
@rickmanley7732
@rickmanley7732 5 лет назад
You are right.
@MrGrxxx123
@MrGrxxx123 5 лет назад
Yes indeed !
@skinnypedaldown5044
@skinnypedaldown5044 4 года назад
I love that ......a 30 cal will expand.....but a 58 cal wont shrink! Great video !
@redneckmini14
@redneckmini14 7 лет назад
someone should show this to tfb to show them that the lever action is NOT an "obsolete" rifle.
@reznovhobbs1447
@reznovhobbs1447 7 лет назад
redneckmini14 right? tfb sure made themselves seem like docks in that video
@Thisshitcrazybruh
@Thisshitcrazybruh 7 лет назад
redneckmini14 I can't stand TFB tv. He is the ultimate mall ninja.
@imparak
@imparak 7 лет назад
50 Beowulf in a AR makes lever guns obsolete.
@jonnybojangles5666
@jonnybojangles5666 7 лет назад
The dude who made that video trolled the shit out of mosin and lever action guys
@Thisshitcrazybruh
@Thisshitcrazybruh 7 лет назад
imparak No it doesn't. Not everybody is a millionaire and can spend a small fortune on a beowulf.
@kuribo1
@kuribo1 7 лет назад
Very much appreciate the aspect of taking only the humane shot. Waaaay too many dipshit hunters that do not even take that into account when trying to take down a target.
@alaskanoutdoors9259
@alaskanoutdoors9259 7 лет назад
kuribo1 yep. i was hunting and heard 5-6 rapid shots and a second later someone yelled "did i get him?!"
@kuribo1
@kuribo1 7 лет назад
anchorage alaskan Absolutely ridiculous. Not only possibly cruel but reckless and dangerous to boot. Not a true hunter with any sort of ethics.
@alaskanoutdoors9259
@alaskanoutdoors9259 7 лет назад
kuribo1 yeah. that guys family tree has no branches and he probably had no teeth
@kuribo1
@kuribo1 7 лет назад
What for taking out people who believe in pizzagate?
@SirThunderPants
@SirThunderPants 7 лет назад
I very much support the notion of a humane shot. But... Regardless of caliber, if the deer's "guts" are perforated they will die from sepsis within days. Not that that would be acceptable.
@anayahbenyahu4625
@anayahbenyahu4625 4 года назад
That’s why I love old school lever/bolt action rounds
@aaronsanborn4291
@aaronsanborn4291 4 года назад
Brush gun is any carbine length rifle, lever, bolt, pump or semi-auto that will shoot accurately between 100 to 150 yards. Caliber is not a factor. We also call them a "Truck Gun" here in Maine because they are easy to carry and you might be rolling down a log road somewhere and find a spot you want to hop out and go check out. I carried a Winchester Model 94 Carbine chambered in .44 Mag on the farm on the tractor and shot many coyotes with it.
@glutiousmax
@glutiousmax 5 лет назад
I used a 30-30 marlin in Pennsylvania's heavy brush
@vernonfindlay1314
@vernonfindlay1314 5 лет назад
Same thoughts, only 30-30 Winchester here in Nova Scotia.
@oppy2002
@oppy2002 3 года назад
me too...
@308dad8
@308dad8 3 года назад
I hunt dense woods in TN and 30-30 is PLENTY
@samuelpudwill6794
@samuelpudwill6794 5 лет назад
i feel like someones gonna try a 700 nitro express for a brush gun, i mean $ 125 a shot is kinda of expensive, but it would go through 100 yards of thick brush with no issues lol.
@specialperson170
@specialperson170 5 лет назад
You mean a 100 elephants
@Diddley_Squat
@Diddley_Squat 5 лет назад
And a baby cat
@UraniumReaperActual
@UraniumReaperActual 5 лет назад
Holy hell is it really that expensive? Never looked at it
@christopherwinter2099
@christopherwinter2099 4 года назад
Aren't those only in a double barrel though
@BamSigma
@BamSigma 4 года назад
And a group of orphans
@308blr2
@308blr2 Год назад
Just stumbled onto this six year old video; and I had to watch it. Like another viewer I had always thought a brush gun was a short, maneuverable rifle that a hunter doesn’t mind dinging the finish on. In January 2023 on a day with bright light and high contrast I was hunting from a tree stand with a .308 and a 3-something scope. For longer than twenty minutes a whitetail bounded to and fro through laurel at about forty-five yards; and was blowing at me the whole time. One of my most interesting deer hunting encounters; and I couldn’t clearly see the deer to get off a shot. This was partly due to the intense sunlight and the subpar and overpowered scope. Usually I carry a 1-4 or 1.5-6 scoped long-gun; and they’re good glass. That experience stuck in my craw; and it seems like every year I have one of those educational hunting moments. I daily contemplate what I’ll take back to that area; and now I may have something new in mind. Thanks for the video!
@BuckFoeJiden
@BuckFoeJiden 2 года назад
30 carbine makes a fantastic brush gun, 450 Bushmaster, and 458 SOCOM are also fantastic. Don't have any real experience with the .50 beowulf, but I've heard it's a great round as well. My two favorite calibers for being in the Appalachian mountains, though, are the .308 and the .243. .243 has been a godsend. Very fast round with little to no drop within the ranges you'll see clear shots in the woods. Every deer I've killed has been between 30 and 100 yards away, except for two I've had shots open up at +/- 400 yards, and the .243 handles that very, very well. .308 needs no explanation. If you can't kill it with a .308 Winchester, you'd better run or hide from it.
@saulja1000
@saulja1000 6 лет назад
I live in Texas I dont know about other states but hunters education will tell you not to shoot at any game you cant clearly see and identify. A lot of hunters have been accidentally killed by other hunters that saw what they thought was a deer and did not completely identify. Great demonstration though, and complete agree with the slow heavy round punching through the jungle lol. I prefer 180 grain soft tip .308 Winchester.
@curtleake2191
@curtleake2191 6 лет назад
Not only that, in Ca. you can't shoot does or spikes, or other hunters.
@JM-bb8xi
@JM-bb8xi 5 лет назад
Same in PA. Except they say if you can't see behind it too.
@JM-bb8xi
@JM-bb8xi 5 лет назад
@@curtleake2191 why you wanna shoot a spike? Can't be for the antlers, they aren't much for meat in most cases, but hey whatever.
@dirtcurt1
@dirtcurt1 5 лет назад
@@JM-bb8xi I guess you missed my point.
@BonesTheCat
@BonesTheCat 5 лет назад
I think we can agree this is an exaggeration on what would be considered shooting through other than for self defence. There can still be small sticks hanging off trees on the way to a clear sighted game.
@richa3md
@richa3md 5 лет назад
A 30 cal expands but a 58 doesn’t shrink! Freaking love that !!
@314Adventurer
@314Adventurer 9 месяцев назад
I miss you Eric 😢 You were a guiding voice in my venture into firearms
@Beardman56
@Beardman56 7 месяцев назад
He didn't go anywhere...
@jimbo141
@jimbo141 3 года назад
Great experiment. A couple of things I would have included is set up an additional camera recording in slow motion with a profile view of the target and testing a 12 gauge running one ounce slugs.
@gabrielfabula606
@gabrielfabula606 2 года назад
A slow-mo camera good enough to see the bullets would be several thousand dollars I think.
@elricofarmer1561
@elricofarmer1561 4 года назад
I bought a single shot .35 Remington several years ago. Absolutely Love the way this thing shoots. Never missed and always a one shot stopper! Hunting in mixed hardwoods in North Central Mississippi.
@tobyburgess5444
@tobyburgess5444 4 года назад
Now, with several states adopting straight wall cartridge restrictions, the 357 Max Rimless and 350 Legend are starting to shine. They beat the old Remington's ballistics with very low recoil.
@nomadsurvival4952
@nomadsurvival4952 7 лет назад
30-30 and 12 ga slug would be interesting to see how they fare in the bush test....
@TiberiumMineral
@TiberiumMineral 7 лет назад
Out here in Montana ive used a 12g 2 3/4' slug for deer. The thing is so big and heavy it just destroys any brush that's between you and the deer or elk. Use 3 1/2 if you want to be sure. If 30-30 works at killing brush i wonder if a flat nosed 7.62x39 would work as well since they are both very close?
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 7 лет назад
Load the spitzer bullets backwards.
@TheLawnWanderer
@TheLawnWanderer 7 лет назад
I don't think you will do that anymore when you see your primers getting funky due to over pressure.
@TiberiumMineral
@TiberiumMineral 7 лет назад
Hes right, Loading a bullet backwards is potentially dangerous. I was more talking like a lead casting semi wad cutter. Might mess up the AKM's feeding though as the ramp is pretty far away from the magazine. Might work better on an SKS. A CZ527 would be ideal.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 7 лет назад
Seating a bullet backwards could be potentially dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. You need to keep the jump in the throat or reduce the load. If the base of the bullet jams into the rifling with no jump or is seated deeper in the case after contacting the rifling there may be a problem. But if you don't know how to make your loads safe you should stick to factory ammunition.
@mitchparish3644
@mitchparish3644 4 года назад
.444 Marlin has about 5" less bullet drop than 45-70 at 200 yards for those times you aren't shooting through a thicket. I've had mine for about 35 years and never had any disappointments.
@frankcastle4615
@frankcastle4615 3 года назад
That BM59 reminded me of my grandpas gun he loved his BM59.
@TheOldAmishMan
@TheOldAmishMan 5 лет назад
I've never hunted, but now I want one of those 45-70s
@michaeldaugherty3540
@michaeldaugherty3540 5 лет назад
30-30 is a quality brush gun
@DaDaDo661
@DaDaDo661 5 лет назад
@@michaeldaugherty3540 We use a lot of round nose .303 British for hunting in Canada. Everyone and their dad has an Enfield. Great bush gun
@morganhay859
@morganhay859 5 лет назад
TheJewThatCuckedYou get a 45-70 I love them I reload and shoot them al the time. U can reload them so they don’t kick as much but after a box or so ur shoulder gets sore but it’s so fun.
@justanotherinternetexpert7743
@justanotherinternetexpert7743 4 года назад
You should look at 500 automax.
@imperialwhovian3461
@imperialwhovian3461 4 года назад
4570 is a great cartridge, really fun to shoot, I use a marlin 1895 and as far as recoil if you can comfortably shoot heavy shotgun loads then it shouldn’t be a problem.
@p03saucez
@p03saucez 7 лет назад
"HEY! LOOKIT THAT THUR PRIVET HEDGE!" Eric you're awesome haha. Great video. I definitely look forward to more brush testing. 458 SOCOM, .50 Beowulf, 7.62x39, 5.45x39, .357 Mag, and hell I'd even like to see how common handgun calibers like 9x19, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, and 10mm do against brush.
@kenwatson7771
@kenwatson7771 7 лет назад
I was zeroing my .50 Beowulf a couple of weeks ago and the first round missed the target passing thru an 8" tree and lodging deep in another tree. I say the Beowulf definitely qualifies as a brush gun. By the way that was Alexander arms 335 grain FMJ at about 30 yards.
@mannox775
@mannox775 4 года назад
Me in Australia: brush gun more like all I can get
@copperhead6132
@copperhead6132 4 года назад
"45-70 is the best brush gun" .458 win mag: Am I a joke to you?
@keithroy7884
@keithroy7884 6 лет назад
I was taught that a brush gun was more about a gun that was easily carried through brush country, so a relatively compact, short gun for relatively short ranges, not a weapon for shooting at things you can barely see. The Winchester model 1894 .30-30 that my grandfather hunted deer with was the quintessential brush gun. Deer hunting is not the same as jungle combat. You didn't shoot animals that you couldn't clearly see.
@logan4215
@logan4215 5 лет назад
Keith Roy yeah that makes alot more sense.
@DSMattitude
@DSMattitude 5 лет назад
Keith Roy, I agree. to me a brush gun is another term for "truck gun". its light, compact and handy, but not made for shooting through brush or trucks.
@davidlinihan3626
@davidlinihan3626 5 лет назад
Keith Roy what was the barrel length?
@orlandodizo5097
@orlandodizo5097 5 лет назад
@@davidlinihan3626 20 inches or less.
@tommy01234567891011
@tommy01234567891011 5 лет назад
If deer hunting for you isn't on par with jungle combat, then you're not hunting hard enough.
@toadamine
@toadamine 7 лет назад
so when you miss with a small caliber it's because of heavy brush, but when you miss with a "brush gun" it's just your point of aim being off huh? 🤔
@Iraqveteran8888
@Iraqveteran8888 7 лет назад
It's really more about the group. All the heavy hitters triangulated respectively, while the small bore stuff shot erratically and keyholes all over the place regardless of how consistent my POA was. Definitive result if you ask me.
@Overthewingflight
@Overthewingflight 7 лет назад
It makes sense though right? HV rifle rounds are cones, and are below 180 grains (tested in this video) as they contact the brush they tumble. So naturally you would want to use a heavier thicker bullet to punch through the brush. Also these guys have hit a steel plate from like 400 yards using a 9mm luger. There accuracy should not be taken into question.
@toadamine
@toadamine 7 лет назад
Kyle St John it's physics, more mass = less deflection... it has nothing to do with velocity or bullet shape or even bore size.
@Overthewingflight
@Overthewingflight 7 лет назад
toadamine the shape of the bullet definitely has an impact on how it's flight characteristics are especially as it eats through the brush. if not physics then aerodynamics
@capitaldbuz1542
@capitaldbuz1542 7 лет назад
toadamine when all the other rounds keyholed huh 🤔
@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135
@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135 2 года назад
I'm glad I watched this. Even more glad I just bought a 450 bushmaster for this season. I'm just kinda disappointed you don't try a 12 gauge slug and buckshot for this test. I know from personal experience that bird shot of all kinds will go right through. Thanks for the info!
@jasondaniel918
@jasondaniel918 4 года назад
I have a geriatric Marlin 336 chambered in 35 Remington that has been my brush gun for a very long time. It has done its job quite well. Still, I have always made it a point to wait for as clear a shot as possible before pulling a trigger. I would never in a blue moon shoot through brush as dense as that in your test. But, I understand that this was a test.
@darrylk27
@darrylk27 5 лет назад
Well that really make me feel good about the 336 my dad left me when he passed , awsome video man . Thank you
@adznz11
@adznz11 7 лет назад
What about the humble 30/30 cartridge?
@kegar79
@kegar79 7 лет назад
agreed, ive killed many deer in the woods with an old model 93. never let me down.
@patrickjones8255
@patrickjones8255 7 лет назад
Good round, imagine minor deflection. Probably similar performance to the .35
@adznz11
@adznz11 7 лет назад
I thought so. Here in the north island of New Zealand the scrub is insanely dense in deer country unlike the south island a lot of guys look at me sideways because i use an old marlin 336 with just a rear peep sight no glass when they have expensive rigs. Been using it along time and it has yet to disappoint me.
@MongyBongy
@MongyBongy 7 лет назад
The much unappreciated thuddy thuddy
@-o-The-Duke-o-
@-o-The-Duke-o- 7 лет назад
a Marlin 336SC 30/30 is the first thing I think of when I hear "Brush Gun".
@JJUL1981
@JJUL1981 4 года назад
Awesome video and drives home the point that high velocity rounds are accurate and flatter shooting as long as they are properly stabilized. Hoever once they become destabilized they become a "sail" and deviate more than a slow-heavy round.
@Acekorv
@Acekorv 2 года назад
This is also really good to show people to take clean shots.
@esco5593
@esco5593 7 лет назад
I remember when Iraqveteran8888 was a small channel with about 200 subscribers. It seemed like that was yesterday.
@theeasternfront6436
@theeasternfront6436 7 лет назад
"The deer woods" Sounds like a Yooper thing.
@jake4x41982
@jake4x41982 7 лет назад
Charlie Sulcer
@weco9808
@weco9808 7 лет назад
The Eastern front We have plenty of deer woods in the lower too.
@edlingja1
@edlingja1 7 лет назад
Michgunnut Southern canada has scads & scads of deer in the little farm zoned wood-lots. Also, up north in the wilderness it's important to take multiple firearms such as: a scoped rifle, a shotgun with varied ammo, and a brush gun of some kind for serious animal defense. If a predator comes upon your camp, you have to get those shots off before it gets too close otherwise switching to shotgun could be a deadly decision for you.
@Spangdaddy1
@Spangdaddy1 2 года назад
Francis E Sell, author of the book “Get Your Deer” published back in the 1950s came to the same conclusion in his testing. There appears to be a sweet spot velocity wise between 2000 and around 2600 fps at the muzzle. In his testing the most important factor was not bullet shape or weight but velocity. His testing even included rounds of the same bullet weight and size fired from the same rifle just loaded to different velocity. Once that speed was reduced to around 2600 and below the groups tightened and the deflections though not completely disappearing began to have less effect on point if impact. This kinda explains why rounds like 30-30, 32 Win Special and 35 Remington have ruled the deer woods for so long.
@JS-xs5hq
@JS-xs5hq 4 года назад
Thanks that was a very good practical field test. I would like to see the test repeated, but this time shoot from a bench to minimize variations in placement.
@AirForceAce3571
@AirForceAce3571 7 лет назад
Cool video but an option that also should've been tested were 12 gauge shotgun slugs! I've hunted deer with those in thick Western NY brush for years with great success. A good, heavy Sabot slug out of a 12 GA will also do a great job punching through brush and taking down a deer with authority inside 100 yards! I like the Lightfield slugs out of my Remington 1100 with a rifled slug barrel. My brother uses Hornady SSTs out of a scoped Mossberg with a rifled barrel and we've had great success with both!
@JoseNOCuervo
@JoseNOCuervo 6 лет назад
U
@thenarrowpathoftruth9443
@thenarrowpathoftruth9443 5 лет назад
This is one of the best videos I have seen in a long time. Very original, interesting and useful. Great job sir!
@bryanworth8292
@bryanworth8292 2 года назад
Deer hunting in northern Michigan , I always carried my Mom's model 94 in .44 mag . I never took a shot with it but I knew that it would get the job done if I did take a shot .
@darrellowings2343
@darrellowings2343 Год назад
One of my all time favorite youtube gun videos
@johnbirkholz3216
@johnbirkholz3216 5 лет назад
If y’all anyone looks at this northern Wisconsin a 30-30 is considered one of the best brush guns because the barrel is short (someone from Alaska mentioned it so you can swing the rifle I shoot a 30-30 sense 1964) I shoot a model 94 made in 1950 using 170 gr Long story shortened. I am the youngest of 5 children 3 boys and 2 sisters. My Dad bought the Winchester for my oldest brother (Bill), 1963 I bought it from Bill for $50.00 with the agreement to sell it back to him for a good reason. Bill had 5 kids only one son and when his son turned 14 he asked to buy it back so I sold it back and. Sadly Steve died in a car wreck after only 2 seasons of hunting. I was not comfortable asking Bill to buy it back. So it sat in his gun cabinet for a number of years then unfortunately I lost my brother to cancer in the 90s about 2 years later his wife asked me to get the values of the guns so she could sell. A couple of weeks later I gave her the values and I told her the story and told her I would buy one of the guns and she said the revolver that 4 other family members would like( S&W 357 w/scope 686 ) I said no I would like the 30-30 and I will pay you retail value. She said let me think about this for a couple of weeks. She called me and said you can pick up your rifle. I drove to her house with the money in my pocket. I was surprised,shocked, Thankful. She gave me our family’s 30-30 ,gave me. I still have it and it will continue being handed down hopefully for many generations. Praise God for watching over us all!
@bernardocalderon3088
@bernardocalderon3088 4 года назад
God bless us all in Jesus name amen.
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