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What is a Float Kit? 

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If you thought the float kit was a pair of floats, this video is for you! Mark tells you what a float kit actually consists of.
If you are coming to Placerville, consider staying at Mark's AirBnB: bit.ly/3OWxuiJ
#floatkit #airplane #pilot #cessna

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@richardblanchard5012
@richardblanchard5012 10 месяцев назад
I love it when you produce these detailed technical presentations. Thank you!
@DanDan3663
@DanDan3663 10 месяцев назад
Totally agree. I never watch Skywagon U and think “I wish this was less detailed” 😅 Keep the detailed videos coming!
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for posting Mark! Excellent clarifications, especially for new owners.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching, Juan Brown!
@mannypuerta5086
@mannypuerta5086 10 месяцев назад
I’ve had my 185 (with float kit) for 23 years, instruct in Skywagons…and I learned something. Thanks.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Thanks.
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 10 месяцев назад
Had a couple of hundred hours on a C206 ex-floatplane, by then working off a grass strip at a '90s jump centre. Most solid 206 ever, no creaking or groaning while taxiing, no 'walkabout windscreen' to spray water in your face & soak the seat after a rainstorm, - no rate of climb to write home about either! Rock solid in IMC & enough hand & toe holds to keep a gibbon fit, - loved it, trusted it. : )
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Float kitted planes are a bit more rigid.
@cinnamanstera6388
@cinnamanstera6388 10 месяцев назад
Wow, lots of good information. Weird random fact, the slab of metal that bolts into the forward float strut/gear mount area is often called a "Pork Chop" and can fetch a decent price on their own.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Very true. It's pork chop. about $800 for two.
@adrianjowett6941
@adrianjowett6941 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for this video. Actually laying out the structural differences and the reasoning for them was very interesting.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@user-kq6xf4om3l
@user-kq6xf4om3l 9 месяцев назад
Great education, I had just assumed every 180/185 came with a float kit out of the factory. Thanks.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Glad it helped
@ph5915
@ph5915 10 месяцев назад
Wow! That was so very informative Mark, I had no idea all that was involved in a float-plane airplane! Wow!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 10 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@dwaynemcallister7231
@dwaynemcallister7231 9 месяцев назад
Of course many early Cessna 180's were flying commercially on floats before the float kit was available they did ok but if anywhere near the coast the salty air would not be good for your bare aluminum Cessna 180 @@skywagonuniversity5023
@dwaynemcallister7231
@dwaynemcallister7231 9 месяцев назад
I was working aircraft maintenance up in the western arctic, and our boss would always buy used aircraft, but one time he bought a new one, it was a 1977 Cessna 185 with float kit. He was flying in cloud one day and hit a mountain, he was very lucky that day, he lost one Federal wheel ski and gear leg but was able to keep on flying. Long ago memory
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Knocked it off on a mountain. How did he land?
@dwaynemcallister7231
@dwaynemcallister7231 9 месяцев назад
He landed at Cap Parry NWT, Canada a DEW line site on the arctic coast run by the USAF to detect incoming attacks from the Soviet's. There was accommodation and food available there. It happened in 1980/81 and the DEW line closed in 1982. He damaged the propeller and a wingtip my Dad flew over with tools and a propeller repaired the landing gear to ferry the plane out. The normal Base was Inuvik 300 miles west. The Boss had more than a few crashes over the years but was a good man.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
@@dwaynemcallister7231 People who do that kind of work will always have a few crashes.
@dwaynemcallister7231
@dwaynemcallister7231 9 месяцев назад
Yes hard to avoid and every pilot has to deal with the risks in his own way, near the end of my Dad's career he found himself flying airplanes that had GPS onboard, he said that really took the challenge out of bush flying in the Canadian arctic. Up there compass's were unreliable and few if any VOR's existed so it was navigation by knowing the land and also NDB's, in dirty weather it really was a challenge.@@skywagonuniversity5023
@anthonycyr9657
@anthonycyr9657 5 месяцев назад
Very first plane ride was in a A185F, the sound of the prop at 2850 rpm on takeoff was awesome and will forever be with me, been an airplane nut ever since.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 5 месяцев назад
2850 RPM with a long prop is a sound of joy. (if you are a pilot)
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 5 месяцев назад
And not a bird sanctuary owner. ;-)
@anthonycyr9657
@anthonycyr9657 5 месяцев назад
lol@@skywagonuniversity5023
@zombieapocalipse2020
@zombieapocalipse2020 10 месяцев назад
Your videos are always the most anticipated. Thanks, great work.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 10 месяцев назад
Glad you like them!
@aviation3530
@aviation3530 10 месяцев назад
Your knowledge is amazing. Actually makes me laugh a little.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
It makes me laugh too what comes out after all these years.
@Calvin-xp4qp
@Calvin-xp4qp 10 месяцев назад
Really good stuff explaining the differences. Thank you!
@tailwheel
@tailwheel 10 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot Master Jedi Mark Kenobi !
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 10 месяцев назад
My pleasure! The force is strong in my family.
@arklaskanadventures
@arklaskanadventures 7 месяцев назад
I don’t know how you remember all that but thank you! Keep it up! Great job!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 7 месяцев назад
Me neither
@jben839
@jben839 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Mark, I very much enjoy the technical and knowledgeable content you produce, keep it up!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, will do!
@ADAPTATION7
@ADAPTATION7 10 месяцев назад
Now I know what they mean by ''float kit''. Quite elaborate when you think about it.
@paulsautocm
@paulsautocm 10 месяцев назад
A lot of shared knowledge, looks great.
@foesfly3047
@foesfly3047 10 месяцев назад
I have zero interest in any Cessna model (except the TTX/Columbia) or float planes but your incredible breadth of knowledge makes every subject interesting. Thank you ♠️
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Glad you like them!
@todds3388
@todds3388 6 месяцев назад
Great video, love deep dives like this
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 6 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed!
@priceyA320
@priceyA320 9 месяцев назад
Flew 206s in the Ozzy outback in my youth. All had the windscreen brace which was handy to hang onto while adjusting seat etc. One had actually been on floats so had the big rudder. Nice in a strong crosswind.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
The big rudders can actually bend a bit if abused.
@Reuben-
@Reuben- 9 месяцев назад
What a great deep dive into this aircraft, I enjoyed all of it! I think my favorite nugget was about the exhaust pipe being shaped the way it is. That was pretty cool to learn about.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@JohnDoe-we9yk
@JohnDoe-we9yk 10 месяцев назад
Tks Mark....so much detailed information
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
You are welcome.
@pto200
@pto200 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the detailed information. Always enjoyable.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!
@bobcfi1306
@bobcfi1306 10 месяцев назад
Great info. Thanks
@Kramskybmw
@Kramskybmw 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the content, always a pleasure to see your videos!!😉
@davidmojonnier1034
@davidmojonnier1034 10 месяцев назад
Excellent Mark Thanks
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 10 месяцев назад
Very welcome
@juliojames5986
@juliojames5986 9 месяцев назад
Phew ! Super explanation. 👍🏻
@CatarineausArmory
@CatarineausArmory 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the info sir.
@johngjacobi
@johngjacobi 9 месяцев назад
Wow. Encyclopedia! So much info
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Glad you think so!
@maxfox3399
@maxfox3399 10 месяцев назад
Great. Informative and interesting!. ( Beats the crap out of woodwork!!)
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Both.
@sey1yes2
@sey1yes2 10 месяцев назад
OK! You qualify for the term "university". Just a wonderful presentation of a catalogue of facts...some of which I will even probably remember! (even though I have absolutely no use for this information whatsoever! 🙂)
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 10 месяцев назад
Wow, thank you!
@rauldiaz5315
@rauldiaz5315 9 месяцев назад
Great info! I really like the technical stuff.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Glad to hear it!
@habk8574
@habk8574 10 месяцев назад
Superb explanation, always 👍
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@ronstowe8898
@ronstowe8898 9 месяцев назад
Very good . Great technical details.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, I got into it a bit on that one. ;-)
@erniekelly2479
@erniekelly2479 10 месяцев назад
Wow. Thanks.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Welcome.
@flysport_tedder
@flysport_tedder 9 месяцев назад
didn't know about all these extras. I thought a float kit was .. floats. and airbnb!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
A float kit a pretty involved thing for sure.
@musoseven8218
@musoseven8218 10 месяцев назад
Another fascinating video, every day is a school day 👍😊💜👍 I live a long way inland and yesterday, a Cessna Amphibious (darn sure it wasn't just a float 'plane), overflew the house, you could have knocked me over with a feather! We do have some wealthy homes around lakes nearby - maybe he was going there, but those lakes are quite small🤔
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
They can land way shorter than they can take-off.
@musoseven8218
@musoseven8218 9 месяцев назад
@@skywagonuniversity5023 😄😄 yeah I know, hope our local fella knows that too😲😄😄 My dad has had several Cessna's any pilot can get em into a strip (or lake), takes an aviator or trailer to get them out again 😲😄🤣👍✌️ My dad was a good short strip/field soft strip aviator btw😉😉👍
@CatarineausArmory
@CatarineausArmory 10 месяцев назад
That was a lot of detail on the fuel tanks and the 1 cap vs. 2 cap yet I did not catch why the float kit had the extra cap for the same tank. Thanks.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
So that you can reach the tank when it is on floats and the wing is out over the water. Use the inner so that you do not fall in the water.
@CatarineausArmory
@CatarineausArmory 9 месяцев назад
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Thank you sir.
@deanmitchell8473
@deanmitchell8473 10 месяцев назад
Enjoy all of your content. Looking for a wine barrel now lots of whiskey barrels here but wine not so many. 🥂
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 10 месяцев назад
Whiskey works just the same.
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 10 месяцев назад
Only one fault with whiskey barrel chairs, after a couple of hours of supreme comfort, your bum will likely fail a roadside breath test . . . so clench a mint when driving : )
@FlyingNDriving
@FlyingNDriving 10 месяцев назад
Always be careful when the plane tells you it's it's first time on floats. Count the holes gentleman!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Yes, Four means it's been on floats and two means that it hasn't.
@embreeja
@embreeja 9 месяцев назад
This might sound picky and stupid, but have you ever considered painting your hanger door? No need to reply, just an observation. The info on floats was quite good!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
We did paint it. That is how it came out, and it is a county hangar, and it is rented. So the sun beats on the outside and super-heats the metal so that the paint dries up and falls off, so we didn't do it again.
@philbrammer3632
@philbrammer3632 10 месяцев назад
Some time back you had a video defining such structural provisions for taking floats as..float provisions, figuring the term "float kit" was logically for the actual floats, which made sense. But, what it's called is what they call it.. Guess its a bit like aluminium vs aluminum
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 10 месяцев назад
The term "Float Provisions" was instead of "Float Kit" on the new 206's because of all the confusion prior to that.
@lancasternational2949
@lancasternational2949 9 месяцев назад
For a guy in the bx, and with a float rating (rag wings), this was very very useful. Am now considering a 182 on floats and would really like to know how much of this applies to Skylanes. Thinking 550, sportsman or Peterson. When I talked to Peterson he said he didn't know much about floats on his a/c.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Skylanes (182's) never had a "float kit" but some float manufacturers made floats that could go on 182's specifically. This was due to the popularity of the float flying and the lack of 180's and 185's, and the wider cabin of the 182, (but they do have electric flaps)
@anthonyrstrawbridge
@anthonyrstrawbridge 10 месяцев назад
Well of information; not so easily obtainable. I suspect that the firewall includes a strengthened or doubled stainless reinforcement and likely the gascolator has additional part's and the POH maybe is titled Float Plane. This cache of details is more valuable than gold. Thank you Mark. * Probably the propeller is specified differently?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 10 месяцев назад
Float kitted 180 K's have 90 inch two bladed props. Longer because of the reduced RPM on the U engine in them.
@jrbergsten
@jrbergsten 10 месяцев назад
Nevermind all that. Where’s Dana?
@davidspeyers5740
@davidspeyers5740 10 месяцев назад
What about the lower dorsal fins that I see on float 180s and 206s?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Mostly on 206's, mid seventies. Not 185's.
@FlightSimDude
@FlightSimDude 9 месяцев назад
👍
@larrystruck1908
@larrystruck1908 9 месяцев назад
Did I understand you correctly? 80% of all 180/185’s have factory float kits installed?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Yes, roughly 80% of the three window 180's and all the 185's. 1963 180's and newer, the ones with the 185 airframe.
@woodsensaunders
@woodsensaunders 9 месяцев назад
What about the skin doubler between the gearboxes on the belly?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
Could be part of it. I think they all have that though.
@ryanhenry3160
@ryanhenry3160 3 месяца назад
What do you think about adding floats to a 162? think it has enough rudder authority and ventral stability with the added area?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 3 месяца назад
I do not think that 162's were ever sold with a float kit.
@ryanhenry3160
@ryanhenry3160 3 месяца назад
Definitely didn’t but can add floats to any LSA if you convert to Elsa.
@TomasAWalker53
@TomasAWalker53 10 месяцев назад
Did you paint your MG green?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
No, It came like that. It's a 76. It's for sale.
@TomasAWalker53
@TomasAWalker53 9 месяцев назад
@@skywagonuniversity5023 - So soon⁉️🤔😳
@adrianjowett6941
@adrianjowett6941 10 месяцев назад
Now, at the high risk of displaying ignorance, why has the 1986 WAG AERO J-3 CUB REPLICA on trade a plane hung around so long? Worries about the fabric/limited range/useful load.... or simply the price?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
I'm not sure what you are asking here.
@adrianjowett6941
@adrianjowett6941 9 месяцев назад
It was just a general question for all watchers of this channel. It is, along the theme of this video, a float aeroplane, but one that has been listed for over 12 months. As an aircraft dealer, I wouldn't expect you to comment directly, as that would probably be unprofessional. I was just curious if anyone had a view as to why it hasn't moved for what seems quite along time.@@skywagonuniversity5023
@dcannon1
@dcannon1 10 месяцев назад
A VF-51 F-185
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
I'm not sure what this means.
@dcannon1
@dcannon1 9 месяцев назад
@@skywagonuniversity5023 The tail code and paint: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/VF-51
@DWBurns
@DWBurns 10 месяцев назад
New company plane?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 9 месяцев назад
I wish.
@DWBurns
@DWBurns 9 месяцев назад
I think you need it.
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