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What is an ADV helmet: Arai XD 4 vs Shoei Hornet X2 

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What makes an ADV (adventure) helmet or Dual-sport helmet different than a street helmet. This video does a comparison can contrast review between the two most popular and debated as the best of the ADV helmets.
My Hornet X2 review from 2016 adventuremotorcycle.com/gear/...
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@zyonsdream
@zyonsdream 2 года назад
I got hit the day before Thanksgiving. The guy put me down on the left side and then I high sided and flew around 40 feet from the bike. I broke my left arm twice, got a rod in my left tibia, broke my left fibula. Shattered my right heel and broke my right knee. When I landed my head came to rest on a sewer grate. I never lost consciousness and wasn’t treated for a concussion at the hospital. I was wearing an XD-4. The police, medics and insurance adjuster couldn’t believe I lived, let alone didn’t have head trauma. I already own 4 other Arai but after this, I’m Arai for life.
@edokal
@edokal Год назад
Had the Hornet since it fit me better. Flew at least 3m in the air landed on my ribs smashed my head on the asphalt. Thing saved my life so I said Shoei for life. Guess they re both pretty great since they do the job in the real world huh? Good to know you are ok.
@Chromatrix1
@Chromatrix1 11 месяцев назад
I’m glad you guys are both ok. Man that’s a scary event to live through. I haven’t gone through a major crash like that (just stupid sh*t at low speeds) and I’ve been on team shoei. Now the helmet is getting tired so time for a replacement. Thanks for sharing your stories.
@xlsyor
@xlsyor 9 месяцев назад
Good to hear you guys are ok! Spread the word! I ride in a small city with seasonal traffic swings. Locals mostly know their way around but the hammerheads are arriving. Three near hits this past week, although full moon might be a cause. Have a SS, but saving for arai or shoei, as they have a great rep! Drive like you're invisible, fellas!
@davidkirkland4364
@davidkirkland4364 2 года назад
While not mentioned in the review, a major factor that can be a deal breaker one way or the other is how the helmet fits the shape of your head. Hot spots from a poor fit can turn any helmet into the equivalent of a water torture device. Try before you buy. Thank you Bret as always.
@matthewabbott7221
@matthewabbott7221 2 года назад
Probably the most important factor when choosing a helmet, David. Very surprised Bret didn’t mention this!!
@stopstalkingyouspookybastard
@stopstalkingyouspookybastard 2 года назад
@@matthewabbott7221 he is reviewing helmets, not teaching how to choose a helmet.
@jonas699
@jonas699 2 года назад
For him probably both fits ok. Most likely if one fits you the other will as well. For me definitely wont work, so far I found for myself only AGV makes helmets which fits well enough.
@DmitriyAdv
@DmitriyAdv 2 года назад
100% agree. My head fits into an Arai great, Shoei not so much.
@xsr_dirt
@xsr_dirt 2 года назад
Totally agree. As someone who went in to buy the Arai, it simply didn't fit. XL was too floppy and L wouldn't even squeeze past my ears. Tried the Hornet on and BOOM. Perfect fit. It's my favourite helmet to date whether I'm dirt riding, adventure riding, or just commuting to work.
@heinzhubbert1512
@heinzhubbert1512 Год назад
Love your videos . This one again very professional without any unnecessary side talk . Straight to the point and honest. You helped me making up my mind to purchase the right helmet for me
@corneferreira7691
@corneferreira7691 2 года назад
new Ad4 comes with a pin lock in the box and it works fairly well with the fog up issue so that issue has been sorted
@christalbott1852
@christalbott1852 2 года назад
I’m on my 3rd XD, absolutely love them. I bought my first one at a motorcycle show, Arai USA had a booth next to the vendor I bought from. I was able to have the Arai rep recommend the correct size and set it up by changing out the top liner and cheek pads to get a perfect fit at no extra cost. Arai makes different thicknesses of these parts to custom fit a helmet to your head. Now that I know exactly how to set a new one up I’ll always get the XD when it’s time to renew my helmet.
@markosrides
@markosrides 2 года назад
XD-4 is sold as Tour-X4 in Europe and it comes stock with Pinlock which works fine as long as you set it up properly. Haven't tried Shoei but Arai in comparison with other adv helmets is above and beyond. The lining is adjustable with 5mm foam that can be removed or added, and there is also photochromatic shield which, I'm told, works very well. Also has a nifty feature where you can wear goggles even when your shield is still on the helmet. It's also perfect for long oval, squashed head shape which unfortunately I have. Personally, I'm in a lot of trouble now, after I bought Arai, don't know how I'm ever going to go to another brand... It's expensive, yes, but there is nothing like it out there. Love the channel Bret, cheers!
@danfishlock8306
@danfishlock8306 2 года назад
I've had both helmets over the years. The Arai is my preference due to the much better air flow and head shape match, but I'm currently using the Shoei. I had an off road crash in Lesotho in 2020 and the Shoei served me very well (it was destroyed but I was fine).
@christheuerkauf2235
@christheuerkauf2235 2 года назад
I bought the xd4 a few months ago. Very impressed with the helmet overall. Lightweight. Great venting. My xd4 actually came with a pinlock visor, so no issue with fogging up. I'm in Australia. The need for a tool to move the beak is a little inconvenient. The beak is noticeably noisy but I ride with plugs in so not a big deal. Great work Bret!
@brucehumphrey7446
@brucehumphrey7446 2 года назад
Hi Bret, Bruce Humphrey here from South Africa. I have been doing Adventure touring in Africa since 1969 - before they thought of the term Adventure touring. Nine BMW's, four KTM's and a dozen Yamahas (plus lots of other bikes) I still enjoy adventure touring on my current Yamaha XT660R after 56 years of riding. As to helmets, I have owned three Arai helmets and three Shoei helmets and the answer is really simple. The peak on the Shoei is too short and with all of them the foam lining started rotting within four years. The Arai's are more comfortable and way better designed and after over 12 years of constant use the linings are still perfect. I wouldn't get another Shoei helmet if you paid me. Cheers Bruce
@paulsmyth497
@paulsmyth497 2 года назад
At last Brett. A video from you that doesn’t immediately make me feel inferior with regards to my riding skills (or even, truck loading skills 🤓🤣🤣). Superb review mate thank you. Still not fully decided which adventure lid is for me, but this has helped as always. Ride safe Brother 👍
@drumsnbass
@drumsnbass 2 года назад
I wear an XD-4, and only an XD-4. Fits my head like a custom made unit. Nothing else has ever come close and I’ve tried them all.
@81722Les
@81722Les 2 года назад
me2
@demiratmotovlog
@demiratmotovlog 2 года назад
I ride on road with a 1150rt with scorpion exo 510air, no offroad with my bike, but 5:15 is the signature of Bret Tkacs which I love to see every time...
@stephanpetranker8994
@stephanpetranker8994 Год назад
Nicely done with a clear analysis that I can act upon.
@russellcapham3535
@russellcapham3535 2 года назад
Excellent review, thank you!
@JCintheBCC
@JCintheBCC 2 года назад
5:15 - The helmet-to-hat transitions are truly amazing sometimes! I had to rewind because I genuinely thought you were wearing the cap under the helmet for a second.
@BretTkacs
@BretTkacs 2 года назад
😄
@rmack255
@rmack255 2 года назад
I too rewound that a couple of times to check the magic involved, and when my wife heard my exclamation asked me to send it to her. It reminds me of the famous Chinese face changing magicians. Instant change.
@k_plax
@k_plax 2 года назад
I had the XD4 for about 18 months on a 790 AdvR. I recently went to a Shoei on a DR650. i.e. both dual sport bikes with minimal or no windscreen and ridden on and off road. For me the Shoei wins comfortably. While the XD4 may be lighter, that wind resistance caused by the solid peak, optics as mentioned by Bret especially when dusty, and wind noise are all more fatiguing compared to the Shoei. I was so surprised at how quiet the Shoei was 100km/h compared to the XD4. Then when you factor in Shoei's better peak screws, slightly bigger opening (for goggles), ALL removable pads for sizing or cleaning, and waaay better pinlock system, it is easily the better helmet for me and worth the extra $150 here in AUS. Have a Shoei transitions visor on order too, so keen to try that.
@FrancescoRossiPhotography
@FrancescoRossiPhotography 2 года назад
Thank you so much for the weights in grams! Very much appreciated!!!
@greg4318
@greg4318 2 года назад
Bought the Hornet after trying both - simple choice, the Hornet fitted my head shape and was incredibly comfortable from day 1. The Arai gave me a headache after wearing it for 15 minutes in the shop.
@vladdehtyar7535
@vladdehtyar7535 2 года назад
What head shape you have ?
@bjrnchrstn
@bjrnchrstn 10 месяцев назад
​@@vladdehtyar7535Shoei shaped.
@CPUspeed
@CPUspeed 2 года назад
I ride mostly street and have the Shoei X2. What I love about it is that you can get a transitions shield for it that automatically dims or goes clear depending on the environment.
@sunhead-x
@sunhead-x День назад
Unfortunately, they discountinued the photochromic shield 2 years ago
@kee7678
@kee7678 Год назад
Not mentioned and as I found out through many hours of testing... The Arai is shaped more for ROUNDER heads, and the Shoei is shaped more for OVAL heads. Me, I had to get the Shoei as the Arai made me feel like my head was being squished front to back, while the shoei has more contact on the sides as it's more OVAL shaped. The expert at Cycle Gear gave me that great info and it proved to be 100% accurate.
@mikeyb6737
@mikeyb6737 2 года назад
Great video Bret. I have both and agree with all that you said.
@UnkaJwimbee
@UnkaJwimbee 2 года назад
Good review. I've also found the XD-4 to fog easily. I finally fixed it by adding the Arai breath box and a pinlock shield. They are pricing but you can get them. I found that the compound bend of the XD-4 shield is harder to seal to the helmet and to the pinlock. Had to return one helmet because the shield leaked. Water ran down the inside of the pinlock shield and collected in the pinlock void. Instant blindness...
@BretTkacs
@BretTkacs 2 года назад
Me too (fogging issue)
@mojosdad68
@mojosdad68 2 года назад
I’ve owned 3 XD4s each time hoping to love it as it fits my head so well. But as Brett mentioned, the distorted optics and fogging issue in cool weather makes it a no-go for me. I went back to the street Corsair X, though I think I’ll give the Hornet a try. I’m on a multistrada which sees fire roads at best so It sounds like the Hornet will be fine. I do like having a peak for those sunny days on an upright bike.
@simonboland
@simonboland 6 дней назад
I'm a fairly new rider with 4-5 years experience and I ride a GS 750. I recently bought the Arai XD4. It does seem to catch a fair bit of wind but maybe I'm still getting used to it though. I don't notice noise that much. Two things I found different to the video (1) The place I bought it from installed the pinlock inside the visor for no extra charge. It hasn't fogged up once. The airflow is really good. (2) You don't special tools to take the visor off. A coin (20 cent Australian piece) 2.5 cm or 1 inch can do it.
@adventuremulemoto
@adventuremulemoto 2 года назад
Bret, great, comprehensive review and I pretty much agree with you on all points. I own both but my XD4 is my go to helmet, it simply fits my head better. The bottom line is when I do a rest stop I can't wait to get the Shoei off my head, while the Arai stays put. For reference I am a 20-24K miles a year rider and get a new helmet every 4-5 years.
@jkagsl4129
@jkagsl4129 2 года назад
Adventure Mule, can you tell me which position is closed and which is opened on the XD4 vents located on the top of the helmet toward the back. there's 3 positions but I don't know if inside, middle, or towards the outsides are open or closed. All other vent controls are easy to see opened vs closed. Thanks in advance!
@adventuremulemoto
@adventuremulemoto 2 года назад
@@jkagsl4129 Center is closed, middle is half open, outside is full open.
@OurDee
@OurDee 2 года назад
Very nice info as usual!
@davidbaldwin9830
@davidbaldwin9830 2 года назад
Considering getting an ADV Bike for moderate rides and camping. Been researching gear. This was most helpful... I had no idea what the bill was for, as an example of my ignorance.
@advtravelbug6100
@advtravelbug6100 2 года назад
I agree that the Shoei helmet is great for Adventure Riders that ride mainly pavement and occasionally go off-road. It’s very quiet and I found the ventilation to be sufficient in hot weather (wearing Goggles, visor open). Great review 👍
@onemilemore541
@onemilemore541 2 года назад
Great review but I'd also like to comment on fit due to head shape. I have a "long oval" head (long front to back w/narrow width). The Shoei fits my head better. Thanks for your work, Brett!
@charleydog2669
@charleydog2669 2 года назад
I have an xd 4 and wear it all thru the warmer months. I have a dirtbike helmet i wear when mainly off roading since even thought the air flow is great nothing beats a dirtbike helmet for air flow.the lightness and fit are very good for me. i have the slightly tinted shield and with the adjustable peak its excellent and have even ridden in the dark with it with only a slight loss of vision. its great shortcoming is it fogs unmercifally when the temperature approaches 50 f. i have purchased a pinlock shield and pin lock that i haven't installed yet that may help. I have avg sportmodular that is my winter go to helmet, it came with a pinlock that works excellently. I did get the arai in high vis for safety and that thing really is bright, there's been no fading over the 3 years i have ridden it. its so bright in the sun it almost looks like it has an internal light. Besides the headlight and taillight the helmet is the most visible part of a motorcycle and with that helmet i am very visible. some more agressive drivers will still pull out in front of me, but its more because they calculate that i will take all steps possible to avoid injuries than they didn't see me. I can see it in their beady little eyes 😠!
@ron5184
@ron5184 2 года назад
Thanks for explaining the difference in street and ADV. Makes a lot more sense now to get and ADV helmet, as I have been using my street helmet. This ADV thing is getting to be an expense hobby LOL!! Glad I'm here though it is a lot more fun than the big bagger I had.
@davidredmond1761
@davidredmond1761 Год назад
Fantastic review helped me choose the shoei cheers
@RoadtoNowhere73
@RoadtoNowhere73 2 года назад
Had the hornet for 2 years now, its excellent.
@nicholaskubilius9260
@nicholaskubilius9260 2 года назад
These helmets are so much money.. let's not forget about the Bell MX9 helmet, ECE rated with MIPS technology, tons of vents, and so many color options. Weighs in between both these contenders, with extremely affordable replacement parts for when liners pack out. And the customer service! I've owned many bell helmets and when visors get scratched, or liners packed out they ship me new ones, no questions asked, no receipts needed.
@BretTkacs
@BretTkacs 2 года назад
I am going to do some more budget gear in the future
@AJMacDonaldJr
@AJMacDonaldJr 2 года назад
I'm very happy with the Bell MX9 Adventure helmet I bought last year. I also bought the photochromic face shield to go with it.
@marcoluoma3770
@marcoluoma3770 2 года назад
Thanks for a good real-world comparison.
@janra8653
@janra8653 2 года назад
And that's how you review helmets 👏 👏 👏 Well done.
@muppdog390
@muppdog390 2 года назад
Just quick one on the Arai regarding the need for a coin, or screw driver, to replace the shield and visor. I came off off roading at some speed and found myself in a ditch. The initial impact was face first the visor taking the first blow. The retaining strews are designed to shear off in such a situation which they did preventing the helmet from twisting my head around. All the vent covers will come off as well for the same reason. As it was a soft impact I will use the helmet again off road. All the bits are available from your dealer to be replaced. Not sure if the Shoei does the same but I rather undo a couple of screws. No issue with wind and visor on T700.
@Championhelmets
@Championhelmets 2 месяца назад
Good review. Well done
@dirtbikesicehockey4788
@dirtbikesicehockey4788 2 года назад
Arai helmets have always seemed to fit my head perfectly.
@jimnyffeler5287
@jimnyffeler5287 2 года назад
Bret, good review. My first ADV helmet was an original Arai XD4. But when I replaced it I switched to a Klim Krios. It's four ounces lighter than the XD, flows air well, the peak is vented and you don't need tools to replace the shield. Oh and it's made of carbon fiber. Cons, it's only DOT/ECE rated. I've become suspect of Snell's rating system. When I replace it I'm going with the Klim Krios Pro with the Koroyd energy absorbing system. It is lighter and flows more are that my current Krios.
@larifari4371
@larifari4371 2 года назад
Is the XD4 quieter than theKlim Krios?
@murraehaynes3182
@murraehaynes3182 2 года назад
You read my mind…been looking at both of these recently 👍 I wear a Shoei Neotec on the street..
@BretTkacs
@BretTkacs 2 года назад
I wore my Neotec through Nepal
@GeertTheys
@GeertTheys 2 года назад
Have Touratechs adventuro carbon helmet only 1300 grams. Nexx has similar helmets and bit cheaper then Touratechs. I ride in Thailand so I removed the screen outside rainseason and even during rain season only close it while raining. Has pinlock system, can close all vents or put open vents on it. All parts you can re order and change. changed screens, pinlocks, even inside fabrics. This keeps the helmet going for long time.... Was considering the MX9 as next helmet but not sure yet....
@BingoDingo8394
@BingoDingo8394 2 года назад
Both of my Arai XD4 came with the pin lock system as standard. It works ok but still can fog up in cold weather.
@aurorajones8481
@aurorajones8481 2 года назад
2:54 Assuming the Arai fits your head! Ive tried them both and find the Shoei to have a better fit for me personally. The Arai's padding applies pressure point forces all around my head, and ironically because it is so light as you say to me it feels cheap and flimsy. BUT after your vid I'm gonna re try because I do need a new lid. You make excellent points.
@crocodil96
@crocodil96 2 года назад
I bought a XD-4 a year ago, and it actually came with a pinlock visor, and pinlock in the box.
@spuddoright1970
@spuddoright1970 2 года назад
Last summer I did a 900 mile day w/ a new XD-4 that I hadn't worn enough to break in. The helmet was great and not fatiguing at all. I had to come through southern Utah and Nevada in 115+ heat and the ventilation was great. Multiple times I stood up at 80 MPH and never felt like the Arai was going to pull my head off. I thought I was going to go w/ the Hornet as my other helmet is a high end Shoei, but the Arai just fit my head much better.
@rtwt7487
@rtwt7487 2 года назад
Thank you so much for this. I've got an XD4 and a Tenere 700. I've been having nothing but problems with buffeting and noise. I'm getting closer to solving it but I reckon the helmet will make a big difference. I was looking at the Shoei and now I reckon I'll give it a try.
@Kruik013
@Kruik013 2 года назад
I've got the Arai tour x4 and Tenere700 aswell but I have no buffeting, when I'll wear my streethelmet I'm getting dizzy really fast because of the buffeting.
@blkmagic4
@blkmagic4 2 года назад
i have an xd4 and t7, I'm 6'3 and had crazy amounts of buffeting. I switched to the short windscreen by powerbronze and it made all the difference. not sure why the short one works so well but it was night and day in terms of noise.
@blkmagic4
@blkmagic4 2 года назад
not to mention a $100 windscreen is a hell of a lot cheaper than a new helmet
@rtwt7487
@rtwt7487 2 года назад
@@blkmagic4 I’ve got the same windscreen (and several others) and it was just yesterday that I found the culprit (for me anyway): the bark buster hand guard plastic component. I took off the plastic part leaving just the frame and it’s now a pleasure to ride. Only took me a year and over $1,000 in parts to find out it was the first part I added to the bike and the cheapest option 😂
@BingoDingo8394
@BingoDingo8394 2 года назад
I’ve got a ktm adventure and the Arai and the buffeting at high speed is terrible. I’ve tried moving the windshield up and down and also tried riding without the helmet peak. Nothing has helped. But I’m going to try a taller screen because if I drop my head down just a couple of inches it’s really quiet.
@Canada151337
@Canada151337 2 года назад
Had a Hornet x2 for about 5 years now. Still my favourite helmet, has fit like a glove since day one, quiet, quality, looks absolutely ace. Only downsides are the weight and ventilation. Doing any dual sporting in warm weather is where this helmet sort of falls down, looking down planning your line up a hill... you feel it on your neck for a few days, and you sweat like a pig! I bought a bell adventure for hot weather dual sporting. The hornet is better at everything else though.
@grhmnz4648
@grhmnz4648 2 года назад
The XD 4 does have a chin curtain . You pull it down when the helmet is on .
@scootersurfermusiclover1941
@scootersurfermusiclover1941 2 года назад
My very happy vote goes for the Hornet X2. The visor is totally unaffected by wind. If I ever lost my helmet I would buy another one in a heartbeat.
@MrFabianEt
@MrFabianEt 2 года назад
The XD4 got an build in airdam :) Also you can use a coin to get the screws out and adjust the shield! Pretty neat I think :) Also my XD4 came with a built in Pinlock Visor with a Pinlock Screen
@rmack255
@rmack255 2 года назад
Coins…what are they again?
@hkeg80
@hkeg80 2 года назад
I absolutely love my XD4 as well, but I do definitely hate the adjustments, so many other manufacturers just have much better systems for switching visors, I like switching between a tinted and non tinted one but I've stopped doing that just because the fastening system sucks so bad.
@MrFabianEt
@MrFabianEt 2 года назад
@@hkeg80 Yeah but I don‘t mind that. I ride with an lightly tinted visor all year round :)
@mojoridin
@mojoridin 2 года назад
Mine has a pinlock too, and change between smoked or clear visors on my longer trips. Never had an issue changing, because it usually gives me time to take a shorter rest while doing it. Love my XD!
@Rolandmotocom
@Rolandmotocom 2 года назад
Good as always... The 'tool' needed is a quarter / coin...or any key
@motohonduras6095
@motohonduras6095 2 года назад
Shoei it is! Thanks Bret
@rmack255
@rmack255 2 года назад
Great work again Brett. As noted, head shape makes a difference, and I found Arai helmets didn’t fit my round oval shape. I was comparing modular helmets but also tried some arai. One aspect only briefly mentioned was visor view size. I tried the Shoei Neotech 2 and expected to buy it (very comfortable) but on test ride I found the visor was so narrow I couldn’t see the Nav6 or bottom of my phone nav screen. So I was constantly dipping my head; intolerable on a long ride IMO. So my question: how does the Shoei Hornet visor height compare, both to the Neotech 2 on other helmets? In the end I got the Schuberth C4 pro Carbon, but I’m still thinking about getting a helmet with improved air flow for the hard work parts and very hot areas I’ve ridden in (Onslow was 50 degrees Celsius this week, that’s 122 degrees F!). I have an 850GS with the Givi Airflow screen, and there is no buffeting but not a large amount of air getting past the screen to my head.
@ScrambleNorth
@ScrambleNorth 2 года назад
Would like to see what you think of the Klim Krios. Another awesome video.
@KTMK73
@KTMK73 2 года назад
I tried on all three. Shoei felt like a vice. I went with Krios. Koroyd, pin lock, transition faceshield to name a few of the advantages. Let alone pound lighter than the xd4. Big omission not to include that as these are the main ADV helmets.
@kBIT01
@kBIT01 2 года назад
I found the krios to be uncomfortable for someone with a oval or intermediate oval head. You pretty much need to be a Lego man for it to be comfortable.
@KTMK73
@KTMK73 2 года назад
@@kBIT01 The problem is, the Krios only has two shell sizes. I'm a oval/intermediate and found it the most comfortable out of the three. The XD4, I'm a small and there was pressure point on my forehead, the Shoei (having an RF1200 small) in the Hornet, I'm a medium and it felt like concrete. The Krios, I'm a XS and it is Goldilocks. Hopefully it doesn't break in too much.
@MchalesNavy
@MchalesNavy 2 года назад
The XD4 was on my list, but ended up going with the Airoh Commander instead. Cheaper, pin lock visor, lighter than the XD4 and includes a flip down sun visor which is really handy when riding into the sun. Main downside is that to mount my cardo packtalk slim I need to double sided tape the battery section to the back, none of the mounts work with it otherwise. Something the XD4 does have going for it though is cheek pads you can remove whilst wearing the helmet. Means you can take the helmet off a downed rider without putting any strain on their neck. Actually had to do this for a mate recently after he ran into a mob of goats and took a free trip to Disneyland.
@dandersonjr
@dandersonjr 2 года назад
I have the Arai and the only complaint I have is on a windy day a good gust can really snap your head around. Never tried the Shoei on the street but it's the most comfortable dirt bike helmet I ever wore although it's not the ADV version.
@SlickMotoMike
@SlickMotoMike Год назад
I get the same also when it rains it leaks through and then gets between the fog insert
@rimbenty
@rimbenty 2 года назад
I have an XD4 but can’t get used to the vision distortion from the pointy visor. The interior foam doesn’t dry very well either, had to replace the cheek pads due to mold smell in the foam. Tried my buddies Scorpion EXO-AT950, picked one of those up and haven’t used the XD4 since. As far as ventilation on the trail I always wear safety glasses and open the visor so the extra vents on the XD4 never really came into play. I will say my favorite helmet is a Shoei GT-AIR but just for street use.
@damiank2568
@damiank2568 2 года назад
Both these helmets are made in Japan to a high quality standard. Almost all other helmets are from China. (Schuberth Germany, Nolan Brazil, HJC Korea/Vietnam, Shark Thailand, Next Portugal. Yes - Fox, Bell, Alpine Star, Troy Lee are made in China) The Shoei has several outer shell sizes so you get a better fit than helmets with one shell size. I don't know if the Arai has different shell sizes.
@CapsicumSpec
@CapsicumSpec 2 года назад
arai does have different shell sizes as well. i think for the xd-4 it's only two different shells, whereas the street helmets have 4+ different shells
@scottenlow5249
@scottenlow5249 2 года назад
Arai has 5 shells in all models
@domijust4816
@domijust4816 2 года назад
My Arai came with the pinlock screen and the antifog thing included.
@cellphonenut
@cellphonenut 6 месяцев назад
Best comparison. Very throughout.
@2fastnlight
@2fastnlight 2 года назад
The larger eyeport of ADV helmets is a nice feature whether goggles are used or not. That bigger window is just nice. Also the scorpion AT950 modular is a great ADV choice with that feature.
@512mbflashdrive
@512mbflashdrive 2 года назад
check out the nolan n70-2x
@cardesavas
@cardesavas 2 года назад
My 5 cents on a Scorpion AT950….I’m on a second AT950, both of them have rattle @higher speed inside my left side visor assembly, or maybe both sides, hard to tell…. Spoke to customer service, they told me to tightened visor screw, I did, nothing changed. I learned to leave with that rattle. BTW, Scorpion customer service is great and very helpful, they replaced helmet when sun shade mechanisms broke! I drive KTM 1190 adv R, with tall windshield; I think that AT 950 catches a lot of wind. Helmet is “loud”, I meant, it allows a lot of noise to come to your ears. I realized, I barely ever use that modular system, probably next helmet would be without modularity. Now good things about AT950….it has good cut out for speakers, original visir is great, could lift up just a little bit more in fully opened position. It fogs in a rain, but you can buy pin-lock visir separately. It has integrated sun shield in a helmet. It have enough space that you can instal camera mount on a side of a chin, on left side I have Sena Intercome. Venting is moderate. I almost forgot, you CAN NOT beat the price of that helmet with all those features, and I think that AT950 is cool looking helmet, especially for a Adventure riding!
@2fastnlight
@2fastnlight 2 года назад
@@cardesavas the forehead vent is likely the vabration source when closed. Scorpion will send you a new one to pop in if you contact them.
@optimusprime1975
@optimusprime1975 2 года назад
I used Arai -XD4 for 10 years and decided to switch to Shoei Hornet. I recently had a crash with a Shoei and I can say it served me excellently. I then decided to go back to Arai. Wow did I realize all the positives of the Shoei over Arai. Better sound isolation ect ect. The biggest issue I have with the Arai is that the visor does not open up completely like the Shoei. Its actually a huge irritation if you are used to a visor opening up all the way. Also the Shoei dealt with my Packtalk Bold JBL speaker much better. I had to do some serious changes to make the Arai fit me and not have pressure point on my ears. One will only notice these game changer difference using these helmets back to back.
@kenbrooks7794
@kenbrooks7794 2 года назад
I only watched to see the slick hat change! ;-)
@northidrecluse2306
@northidrecluse2306 9 месяцев назад
One of a kind, sets himself apart 😊
@ad78
@ad78 2 года назад
The XD-4 has built in chin curtain that you can pull. The anti fog visor of arai works well too.
@shaunwiegert
@shaunwiegert 2 года назад
One thing to note about the Shoei X2 is that it is a tough stretch to get past my ears. Once on, it works great. I have noticed a point on my left ear that bothers me after a few hours in it. Problem is made worse with a com unit installed. Also, the Cardo pack talk bold does not fit well in the factory cutouts. Now it rubs on my ears and makes the helmet that much more painful to put on.
@mikemills5144
@mikemills5144 2 года назад
I am looking for the magical unicorn, light, quiet, can convert to a 3/4 like the LS2 or Shark and fits my head. Tried the LS2 but it does not fit and can't find the Sharks anymore so will have to stick to my HJC RPHA 70 for now. As always, great transition to the hat!
@MotoSera
@MotoSera 2 года назад
Great review/comparison Bret. I have an XD-4 (Tour X4 in the UK) and it has a Pinlock visor as standard which I have a react to light one in. Perhaps those aren't available in the US?
@ZediMaster
@ZediMaster 2 года назад
Awesome vid. Ride safe, god bless u.
@khakimzhanmiras
@khakimzhanmiras 2 года назад
I dig the retro look of the Arai. Still think it’s the best adventure bike/mx helmet on the market.
@AUTOT3KHCL
@AUTOT3KHCL 2 года назад
Do a video for how you switch your hat and helmet so quick haha. I run an X2 and definitely notice a sore neck for the first couple weeks in the spring
@nickthequick
@nickthequick 2 года назад
I don't ride trails, but I used the XD 4 (called Tour X-4 in Europe) for many years for sport touring. I took off the beak as it was noisy at speeds and enjoyed the air flow - the brow vents are excellent in the heat - the wide field of vision and all that space in front of my chin. It's true that the very angular visor distorts but not to a degree that it bothered me. I now ride with the Arai Quantic (I have a video with comments on it on my channel)
@carloscarvalho1961
@carloscarvalho1961 2 года назад
The Shoei cames pinlock ready and with one in the box, witch is a must!
@LetsrideJ
@LetsrideJ 2 года назад
there is a pin lock for the arai xd, i got it on mine i think from cycle gear, you lose the brow vents (that style is forever backorder it seems) but i used my pinlock for the colder months where that little loss of air flow isnt a concern
@doka1747
@doka1747 2 года назад
Not sure about overseas, but here in Aus the xd4 come standard with a pin lock shield and a pinlock. It still has the brow vents.
@thomaslandenberger7982
@thomaslandenberger7982 2 года назад
Here in Italy, pinlock came standard and still had vents.
@mancavemoto
@mancavemoto 2 года назад
Same here in the UK
@enduromotorradtouren
@enduromotorradtouren 2 года назад
Thanks for your concise comparison, Bret, of these 50-50 dual helmets. Is using a MX helmet with goggles so much worse on travels? Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
@FluxExplorer
@FluxExplorer 2 года назад
Arai XD4 for my noggin. The Shoei is very nice and I tried one but the peak isn’t long enough nor low enough to be of any real use in my experience. May as well just buy a 100% street helmet. I keep waiting for Arai to release an XD5 but I guess it never is coming lol. I just ordered a new XD4 as mine from 2015 is wore out. Can’t argue Arai reliability. They make an outstanding product.
@MotoPavilion
@MotoPavilion 2 года назад
I would say both helmets are good, just go and try them on but you have to stay with the helmet on for couple hours. I have XD4 and Shoei Neotec 2. They are different style but the point here is that every time after 3-4 hours ride , shoei hurts my left ear. You just have to find YOUR helmet.
@MarceloBuainain
@MarceloBuainain 2 года назад
Would be nice and complete review if the KLIM helmet was compared too.
@cloudjumper8868
@cloudjumper8868 2 года назад
I tried both and Schuberth E1. I took Schuberth because it fitted best and I felt most comfortable considering airflow and loudness. Retractable chin is a feature there too I didn´t mind to have.
@rmack255
@rmack255 2 года назад
How did you find the airflow on the E1, in comparison? I’ve had a C3 pro and now a C4 Pro Carbon. Sometimes I’d like better airflow.
@cloudjumper8868
@cloudjumper8868 2 года назад
@@rmack255 I am not able to compare the three helmets in depth. I tried them all on bike but only for limited time. I took Schuberth because after... let´s say half an hour on the bike with every helmet... it felt best on my head (and I liked colours, integral sunshield, etc. the most). After buying it and riding about 6000km in weather from cold (about 3 degrees Celsius) to hot (up to 35 degrees of Celsius), sun, rain, mud, tarmac, slow and fast riding, up to several hours per day, I have to say I have absolutely no problem with Schuberth E1. One problem occured though. Well, problem, I can understand why it is happening and I can´t compare this to other helmets, because I don´t have them and it didn´t occur on neither of the three when I tested them. When riding slow, especially on the beginning of the ride when helmet is warm with head inside and there is colder climate outside, water condensates on the lower part of visor (I am talking about like 5mm of the bottom edge). I guess difference of temperatures and breathing causes this. But the moment I start moving in some pace, usually the time I leave the town, all circulates inside well and condensate disappears. Quick solution is to open visor just a little (I guess I have vents in kinda closed position mostly, amybe opening them more would help). I have to say it never came on my mind, that the helmet is not ventilating enough, I am sweating or I need more vents. Actually I do close the helmet a lot when it gets colder, because wind is everywhere when vents are opened. Even when others raise their chins when riding slow (town, collumn) I do not, because I dont overheat in it. Maybe the different perception is all about head shape :-) Maybe the helmet size coresponding to the head size? My first helmet was very tight and I was sweating all the time while others refered it was venting fine.
@RogierYou
@RogierYou 2 года назад
Cool way to present by popping up 🥳
@rodintoulouse3054
@rodintoulouse3054 2 года назад
Once again I found myself watching a full review of something i am not really interested in, just because of the quality of the the information and your impeccable delivery 😀. Bring on the 100k subscribers!
@craigcaruthers7426
@craigcaruthers7426 2 года назад
I run the Arai XD-4.... there is a pinloc available but you have to buy the shield and the pinloc after the fact..... very expensive. I switched to the WeePro anti-fog insert. Fits your stock shield and is way less expensive and works great......at least for me.
@spiceweasel945
@spiceweasel945 2 года назад
Both are great but the biggest difference is the interior shell shape. Arai is more oval (suits me) while Shoei is more round. That will be the biggest decider for anyone. Then, Brett’s comments come into play. Worth noting that you can get pin lock visors for the Arai and also the GoPro Mount isn’t a big deal because personally I don’t like sticking things permanently to a helmet that expensive so use a clamp anyway which is helmet brand neutral.
@thekerr8728
@thekerr8728 2 года назад
How’s the wind vibration with the visors? My agv ax9 is horrendous. Also, excellent video. Thanks Bret
@alexmorgan3435
@alexmorgan3435 2 года назад
The most important consideration is that they fit properly and are comfortable.
@gaxkiller
@gaxkiller 2 года назад
Strange what you said about the XD 4 pinlock, I got a 120 pinlock preinstalled on my XD 4 when I bought it from the delearship.
@gohlek1972
@gohlek1972 2 года назад
Besides the awesome reviews he should do a video on how to swap helmet to cap in slick fast move and how to get off the bike coming to a stop with standing on the side peg .just check out the rest of his videos and how he does these 2 cools slick moves
@hectoralfi6100
@hectoralfi6100 2 года назад
Great video as always, still waiting to ride with Schubert e1?
@BretTkacs
@BretTkacs 2 года назад
Never been able to use the e1
@barrymatherly
@barrymatherly 2 года назад
I have a pin lock on my XD 4, should have come with it though.
@CapsicumSpec
@CapsicumSpec 2 года назад
I've got the XD-4 and love it. The noise level is heavily depending on the airflow, the cleaner the quiter the helmet. that's my experience. The most important reason for me to get the Arai, was that it just fits my head very well. IMHO this should always be the first thing to look for in a new helmet. if it doesn't fit, look for something else. The Shoei didn't fit - therefore it was never an option for me. good or bad, decide for yourself 😂
@tommeyer6033
@tommeyer6033 2 года назад
The peak on the Arai is also moveable up and down which I find very helpful in situations as varied as when a traffic light is higher than usual, to when the sun is right on the horizon. Not sure if the Shoei peak is fixed or also mashable.
@BretTkacs
@BretTkacs 2 года назад
The X2 is fixed
@tommeyer6033
@tommeyer6033 2 года назад
in my sleep (really) I remembered another favorite aspect of the XD-4…. The black matte underside of the peak of my solid white model. It really reduces glare as from bright sun on sand or any bright surface like a concrete road. Replacing the peak after cleaning is awkward and not quick, but almost any coin or a washer will do the trick.
@andrewarnott6112
@andrewarnott6112 2 года назад
Pinlock is absolutely available for the arai and works great
@marchyman6621
@marchyman6621 2 года назад
Which is better also may depend upon the shape of your head. The Arai fits me better. The Shoei will give me a headache if I wear it for more than a couple of hours. Also, quite often when I put the Shoei on it dragged one of my earplugs out of my ear. For me buying the Shoei was an expensive mistake.
@BretTkacs
@BretTkacs 2 года назад
I am always perplexed when I get a "what is the best... "question without the application and other necessary details
@purificator1004
@purificator1004 Год назад
In Europe, the ECE rated Shoei hornet weight is 1560g in size Large....so weight is not a problem here...
@LaurentEgliAdventure
@LaurentEgliAdventure 2 года назад
Have you tried the Scorpion AD-X1? Love it.
@nakedkiwitraveler
@nakedkiwitraveler 2 года назад
All the points that you have mentioned is a very valid however I do have to say that it comes down to fit. If it's not comfortable for you just simply not going to wear it
@robertsonfamilyfarm9126
@robertsonfamilyfarm9126 2 года назад
Xd4 for the win , over 10,000 miles in a month and 500,000 feet elevation gain , it’s just the most comfortable I have tried but , it does have a foggy problem that I deal with by keeping it clean and adding a good anti fog cleaner
@MCGMB
@MCGMB 3 месяца назад
What is the name/brand of the grey cap you’re wearing? Love the looks of it.
@makis1000
@makis1000 2 года назад
I sold the XD4 for the KRIOS PRO.... that's a massive difference all over. You can also block the ventilation easily on the Krios and stop the shivering on the motorway.
@BretTkacs
@BretTkacs 2 года назад
The Shoei is past its lifespan and I need to helmets (I have gear on both coast) I will look at the Krios again.
@makis1000
@makis1000 2 года назад
@@BretTkacs Looking forward to your Reviews.
@martinfoster5163
@martinfoster5163 2 года назад
I'll wait for the ECE22-06 version of an Arai adventure helmet. My Bell MX9 adventure MIPS will suffice until then.
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