I think the EICR is a good idea if done properly. There are many stories out there of EICR being done from the van on the driveway in 20 mins. There should also be an EICR LITE for landlords at change of tenancy. So a full EICR lasts 5 years and a Lite at tenancy change. This way the install is safe but not crippling the landlord with costs
Brilliant video. Thanks. Wish we'd seen something like this in 2013 before starting on work on house we now live in. It had all certifications for the survey but, peeling back wallpaper revealed very dangerous wiring and it only got worse. Total rewire, new consumer units, etc means we're good for future. BUT sparkies we used were recommended and diligent enough but pushed for time could have done much better jobs. They couldn't get the message that we were willing to pay to cover taking a bit more time. So many tradesmen, even good ones, stuck in mindset of work fast for lowest realistic price, partly due to us customers too focused on price. There is a huge problem finding deeply diligent tradespeople who are secure enough to explain and charge enough to do a comprehensive job
Great explanation and video. I will be pointing my customers to this video. I don't do EICR's but often get asked. Too much grief lol.. Liking the mot analogy too. 👍
I’ve been subscribed to a lot of the big RU-vid electricians and I think the first to say they’d often refuse a board change without an EICR was Dave Savery, and basically for the same reason, he doesn’t want to be called back after fitting a new consumer unit because of some fault that wasn’t picked up beforehand. And it seems the other big RU-vid sparks are in agreement. However sometimes they’re able to inspect and carry remedial work as they go on, I guess the customer is made aware of this. So as long as customers are made aware of this and the options then there shouldn’t be any complaints.
Is there a rule somewhere that states that you can't inspect and test your own property? Is there something to stop you from doing that, supposing you are selling and they've asked for an EICR and you've given a satisfactory, they might be a bit suspicious if your name was on the paperwork, as an example. I'm not saying I would falsify but I'm pretty sure some questionable people would.
You can test your own home - if you are found to have fibbed then you have misled the buyer which attracts a more severe penalty - cunningtons.co.uk/sellers-misrepresentation/
Yes that’s exactly what it’s for - hope you find this helpful. We’ve produced more in this series Rewire - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sVCAl7W1g5I.html Surge. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L29mgEw02NY.html
Is there a minimum percentage required for any EICR, for removal and close inspection of electrical fixtures? Various You Tube videos quote 10%, some 20%, others 100%.
Unfortunately unlike an MOT, an EICR is not a legal requirement. And most home owners will not have one done. Personally when I go to quote for the job, I will look for the obvious, bonding, CPC in lighting circuits, type of cables etc, then if I get the job, i do an IR test on all circuits. And explain to the customer, that the installation could still have faults that their existent system will not detect, and there may be an extra cost involved if further work is required, this is also explained in writing on the original quote.
Hi Joe thanks for sharing your video with me and I look forward to seeing more of your videos and I do my own EICR myself I do mine every 5 years and mine is rental property
I met one electrician who was not registered with anyone. He was a very good electrician with all the testing gear. He made his own reports similar to the _official_ reports, but not the same. All very professional looking. He said what he is doing is valid. A new one on me. But there are no laws that say you need to be qualified, etc, to be an electrician. So he may be right.
I think he is right. I’m qualified, I am not registered but my meter is better than most will use. So I could do the same. I think the problem comes with other types of legality . But even then, if a solicitor wanted a test he would expect a registered electrician but he wouldn’t realise you only need a competent person. The Nic was a consumer organisation which now has created a money making regulatory company. No doubt I will get shot down here but the fact is today, I can do a test the same as the chap you know, tomorrow I can pay the fee and will be registered. The tested meter I will use will be exactly the same. ( so much of this is work generating and dishonest) ( No, I don’t do it. I put the meter on my own or my children’s house’s before I strip out and change the wiring) You only have to see the anal consumer units of some RU-vid electricians to see that this is an opportunity to judge other tradesmen’ s level of ocd.
@@140rware This guy had no qualifications in electrics at all. I think he tagged along with his electrician cousin when leaving school at 16. However, he knew it, and the calculations, getting all the books, etc. He is a natural techie. All his equipment was top notch as were his tools. A very tidy, clean worker. Yes, the key work is *competent.* Not a piece of paper.
@@140rware From Wiki: _The National Inspection Council for Electrical Installation Contracting (NICEIC) is one of several organisations which regulates the training and work of electrical enterprises in the UK. The NICEIC is one of several providers given Government approval to offer Competent Person Schemes to oversee electrical work within the electrical industry._ It is a private company. Many view as some sort of GasSafe, which is it far from.
I’ve had a lot of EIRCs from customers where the electricians have given a C2 for a DB change.. and a C2 on lighting circuits because there no rcd protection.. I’m confused, do other sparks give these a C2 because I’d only give c3.
Depends on the litting fixtures and accessories, it was explained to me that a C2 is danger in the event of a fault, so if there is metal fixtures and/or accessories, these could become energised in the event of a fault
EICR isn't different from the VDE regulations, the tests are the same and even the limits and specified values are identical. The VDE doesn't know the codes like C1, C3 or something like that, so we'll have to explain in full words what the problem is. Most basic reglations are harmonised in Europe, this is done by the CENELEC. CENELEC isn't an organisation of the EU. German inspection sheet: www.ihk-muenchen.de/ihk/documents/Berufliche-Bildung/Messprotokoll-Anlagenpruefung.pdf It contains three main parts: -Besichtigen (optical inspection) -Erproben (testing) -Messen (measuring) Result is either "deficits" or "no deficits", the deficits must be written on the sheet. But it's also for comments or recommendations. But the most important part is the final judgement: "Die elektrische Anlage entspricht den anerkannten Regeln der Elektrotechnik. Ein sicherer Gebrauch bei bestimmungsgemäßer Anwendung ist gewährleistet. Ja / Nein" "The electrical installation conforms to the recognized rules and regulations of electrical engineering. Safe usage is ensured. Yes/No"
