There were two thieves on the cross. The one thief recognized Christ deity, and Christ responded by saying today you will be with me in paradise. The other thief thought it was foolishness. Christ didn't ask God for a time out to convince that second thief. (We often talk about death bed confessions, but the reality is that death bed confessions are few and far between because of the hardened heart of man) I think you also have to reconcile the second coming, (It will be a big bang, something beyond human imagination) and people will still not believe at that singular moment and they won't believe for the indefinite time period that he will be here on earth before we're taken with him to the new heaven. Everybody doesn't get in, some people are hell bent on evil. Calvinism, is a summation of observations in the Bible. It doesn't make me better than anyone else, it makes me accountable for making him Lord of my life and living out the great commission. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@wisevirgin3405 God dies for the world. Whoever wants can choose the free gift that God gave us. And if one does not accept, then it is they who chose to reject Him. And yeah, He paid for every sin committed who has accepted His gift. And when the OP said Thy will be done, he was saying God's will/wish be done. God Bless You!
@@siddarthm3423 ... You have just preached the BROAD WAY that leads to destruction. --------------- Essentially there are TWO GOSPELS in Christianity -------------- (1) The false gospel that you describe above that says Jesus PAID for all sins and men get to initiate their own salvation then God SEES what a good thing they have done and God is OBLIGATED to save that person. In this false gospel MAN is Sovereign over God and MAN initiates his own salvation by something he has done. In this false gospel sins must be PAID TWICE (once on the Cross and later in the eternal Lake of Fire).... but the Bible never teaches ANY of the above. ----------------- (2) The True Gospel is (because of original sin) ALL MEN are born spiritually DEAD and in Satan's "Kingdom". And NO MAN (no, not even one - Rom 3:10-12) will seek God (on His terms). Christ taught that NO MAN can come to Him unless the Father first "draws" them and ALL MEN the Father draws "shall come" to Jesus and He loses NONE of "His Sheep". Notice, in the True Gospel GOD is Sovereign (not man) and GOD initiates the salvation process (not man) and ALL MEN chosen are saved (there is no such thing as MAN rejecting God's Grace) ------------------ So you preach a heresy that MAN is sovereign... that is the BROAD WAY to destruction The True Gospel says GOD is Sovereign (Jesus ONLY PAID for the sins of "His Sheep") and that is the narrow way that leads to life. ------------------- Make no mistake Jesus PROMISED many (if not most) people who call themselves "Christian" are destined to the Lake of Fire. Because they had a false gospel (heresy) ---------------------- Read what Galatians 5:20-21 says about those preaching heresy. --------------------
@@wisevirgin3405 I see where you're getting with this. Are you a Calvinist? Because what I said is basically what you repeated but in a Calvinist POV. I am giving you an example of my own experience. I was a Hindu born in a Hindu family in India and you know Indian is known for Hinduism. At one point in my life, I felt Hinduism was not the proper thing and I became kind of an agnostic seeking to know who truly is God. And at that point if life, was when Father called me and that is when God revealed Himself to me. What you're saying is true. Father calls us and we do not preaccept Him without His calling. But He only calls us when we seek Him rather than those atheists who don't want God to be true. Rather, if one person is truly seeking God with his full heart, then Father calls that person. Hope you understand
And also note, just because what I said is not according to what you felt was right doesn't mean what others teach is a way to destruction. Rather look to what the other person has to say and make clear points. And also understand we ourselves might be in err sometime. Please, look into.other person's opinion and try making a case for it. Cheers!
If the Atonement is available for all that means ALL SINS were paid. And that means NO MAN goes to hell because no sin must be paid TWICE. The Atonement PAID for the sins of the elect ONLY.
@@wisevirgin3405 funny answer to a question. Can you quote scripture to that effect? No-one mentioned sins being paid for twice so how did you arrive at that conclusion?
@@HearGodsWord .... I will speak S-L-O-W-L-Y so you can comprehend. (1) If Jesus PAID for all sins... they are PAID. So why are people destined to eternal torment for sins ALREADY PAID? ----------- (2) If Jesus PAID for all sins... that would include the sin of unbelief and that would include the sins of all Moslems, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists Agnostics, Secular Humanists, Pagans, Satanists, etc, etc ------------- Do you REALLY think the people in #2 go to heaven? ------------- Do the people below have to PAY for sins Jesus already PAID? Where does the Bible teach a sin must be paid for TWICE? -------------- 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. ------------------- Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, HERESIES, Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. ------------------ Child tell all the people above their sins were already PAID by Christ. Clearly you have NO IDEA what the Atonement was about... it ONLY covered the sins of "His Sheep". -------------------
@@wisevirgin3405 ah still being prideful and arrogant. Lots of words there but still totally missing what I said so that suggests you might want to READ more slowly yourself. You can speak how you want but none of us will hear you. You mentioned "saved twice" for some reason yet no-one said that so you must be getting confused with all the comments you're putting on all these videos. I merely asked a question so you don't actually know what I comprehend. You're too busy trying to argue with everyone and push them down, even if they're agreeing with you. You're actually acting like a child ironically with the way you post, and not a child of God.
"Likewise Jesus also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you. But behold, the hand of My betrayer is with Me on the table. And truly the Son of Man goes as it has been determined, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!" Luke 22:22-24 Jesus said his blood was shed for Judas. So much for limited atonement for only the sheep!
I’m asking for prayers on behalf of my best friend, he’s from a muslim family and I’ve been trying to show him the evidence for Islam and Christianity, but so far he doesn’t seem to agree with it and rather follows the moral teachings of both religions in belief that we’re saved through good works. If you pray for him, thank you so much ❤️ It means more to me than you can understand. The rest of my friends and family aren’t saved yet either, unfortunately.
This maybe the only Piper video I have thumbed down - adding the is extra limitation is only in the mind of theologians. It is not in the Bible. Piper has correctly backed away for TULIPs "L" of limited, but this "particular" is in essence the same. For some reason he seems to think that God can't elect and predestine and still completely atone for everyone's sin. The simple disconnect is that if the atonement is rejected, there no longer remains an alternative. So the sin leading to death is unbelief: 1 John 5: 16 If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life-to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. Hebrews 10: 26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, I cannot complain too much because Piper's teaching is otherwise thoroughly Biblical. This is a rather fine point which has brought disagreement among the most Biblically minded believers.
When John Piper says "elect", I don't think he meant that in a way that suggests that the only people going to heaven were those who are predestined to go to heaven. Rather, I think He is saying that the elect are those who will accept the sacrifice of Christ and make a decision to follow Jesus and obey his commandments. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we remember the parable of the wedding feast (Matthew 22), the initial instructions to the servants was to go and call the "invited" (which is what we may wrongfully assume the elect means). However, we see that the elect did not come at the invite. Twice the invite was sent and not once did they respond positively. Finally the king commands his servants to go out to the streets and invite not just those with an invite aka the "elect", but everybody (both good and bad verse 10). But...when the king came to meet the guests, he sees a man not wearing a wedding garment (my interpretation is that this was a man still steeped in sin), and the king commands that this man be thrown out of the wedding. So we see two things here: 1. If we assume the elect means those who have been predestined to receive the free gift of salvation and therefore they will make heaven, then that assumption fails utterly when we read Matthew 22:7 2. If we take the elect to mean those who accept Christ's sacrifice and are willing to take up their cross and follow Him, then we are justified in this belief because of what we read in Matthew 22:11-13. Finally Matthew 22:14 sums it up nicely: 'For many are called, but few are choosen'
Piper definitely believes the elect is a predestined chosen people. I would say Matthew 22 speaks to a universal calling of the gospel. We preach the gospel to the world but only those who are chosen by the grace of God will believe and repent. The elect believe because God takes out that heart of stone and gives that heart of flesh. It is important to note that being called in Romans 8 is seen differently than what is being talked about in Matthew 22. Romans 8 is talking about an effectual call to salvation while Matthew 22 is talking about the universal offer of the gospel.
@@averageeddy1102 Jesus prefaces that parable by saying: The KINGDOM OF HEAVEN is like a king... So unless you're saying the kingdom Jesus speaks of is different from the kingdom Paul speaks of, I don't see how you are making a distinction between the gospel and salvation. Isn't the gospel FOR salvation?? God doesn't strongarm anyone into his kingdom, as we clearly see in that parable. Only the ones who come willingly and with the right attitude (wedding garment), will get to be partakers of heaven. If you being the elect means that God has predestined only a select few to inherit his kingdom, then how do you explain what the King did in Matthew 22 and how do you reconcile that with Romans 1:16? If you read Romans 1:16, you may actually come to find out that if there was ever an elect, it was referring to the Jews, but this doesn't mean they are the only elect.
