What is film grain? And why it’s important in movies? 

I’ve learned so much about film grain and 4k restorations. I’m one who “appreciates grain” but I want the highest level of clarity and detail. So I sort of fit in the middle. I now realize grain “is detail.” Yet, too much of it would take away the ability to “see detail.” So its gotta be done right. That’s why I don’t mind a little DNR. Just my 2 cents… Great vid my man!

Grain is always needed for all those older films and are shown how they were filmed

If it was shot on film, I like and want a natural level of grain. I want it to retain the look that the filmmakers came up with. If it was shot digitally, I prefer that grain isn’t added back in, but if that’s how they released it originally, I’m okay with that. Basically, I like the home video release to honor how said movie was originally released. The Empire Strikes Back is my favorite sequel of all time!

So many sequels could fall into the top spot for me. I’ll throw out Infinity War. I still have fun with it and think it will hold up well over time.

I appreciate both grain and the clean digital look. I like the way a movie like Point Break looks with that nice layer of grain. It really takes you back to the time period. Then I like how a movie like Crank looks and how clean and crisp it looks. I'm going to say my favorite sequel might be LOTR the Two Towers. I saw all three LOTR movies in theaters this past week, and they are all masterpieces of cinema

I like both. But after watching a few videos about this and a really good one yesterday, I come to realize it's not as simple as the grain lovers make it out to be.

My favorite sequels of all time is Aliens, Teminator 2 Judgement Day, Spiderman 2, The Dark Knight and Toy Story 3

Film Grain is preservation of older films and sure it can be distracting in more older Blurays but their 4Ks still have those grian in and it preserves the original film's nature and 35mm prints

Good video John! Great topic! Personally, I'm fairly flexible with grain. I like the filmic look, but I can also appreciate grain management when done well. And I don't mind a nice clean look if we're not sacrificing too much in other areas (detail, waxy appearance, etc.).

I think I fall in the same category as you. I grew up in the 80s and consider film grain to be cinematic for films back in the day in much of the same way 24fps is cinematic. It is interesting though that too much of it can sacrifice detail and too little can also sacrifice detail due to DNR. There should be a happy medium with it where it doesn’t distract but only enhance the experience. For newer movies, I just go with whatever presentation they’re first shown in. if it’s digital and clean then fine. If it’s grainy, I just assume that’s how the filmmakers wanted it to look like and I’m satisfied. I don’t think I’ll ever budge on 24fps though. I hope that never changes. I’ll happily be the old man yelling at the sky if it does.

The Empire Strikes Back is my favorite sequel. Terminator 2 and Aliens are really close behind it.

Im a 80's baby so i don't mind grain on a older movie. Also my favorite sequal is Terminator 2.

This is interesting, I remember when they started adding the grainy filter to simulate it for movies shot on digital cameras when they started. I thought it was weird because while digital cameras weren't at their best quality yet it was an exciting technology to build on and had a lot of benefits. I remember when CD's were big in the 90's and people talked about missing the warmth of vinyl and my Dad didn't because it was just the music clearly, no hisses or pops. The grain filter made it look unnatural like a repeating sheet of grey scratches. While it got better I think I prefer going forward the most vivid color they can get. For my favorite sequel I might go with Horrible Bosses 2 it built off their personalities and theme of the first one and kind of upped the energy. It's actually one of the few movies I would have liked a third were maybe they were the bosses suspecting people coming after them like they did in the past and them on the defense now. Anchorman 2 was so funny and had some great weirdly sweet moments but the only thing that bothered me was separating him and Veronica even though it led to a triumphant ending. What's a movie you would like a sequel to?

Great video john 👍🏻

Top Gun Maverick favorite sequel

Literally every james bond film after casino royale 2006 Excellent franchise

Great topic! 👍 absolute grain lover here 🙋‍♂️ 35mm film over digital all day long! A light level of grain is the line to not cross anything where its completely gone is just artifical and throws me off. I'd probably say the Reservoir Dogs 4k transfer is probably the best combination.

I mean my favorite sequel would be Toy Story 2 an excellent sequal saw it when it got re released in 2010 in 3D

Catching fire is my favorite sequel of all time. Thanks for the giveaway

Breakin’ two electric boogaloo! Just kidding 😂 I love Rocky II

Dune Part Two as a whole!.

I remember the first time I really noticed it was when I got Ghostbusters on blu-ray back in 2009. I thought it made the movie look bad but over time I grew to love it. Sometimes I think it can be too much. One example is Ti West's The House Of The evil. He shot that on 16mm and at times It's so bad you can barley tell what was on the screen when it was during a dark scene. But the alternative is something like Predator that was DNR'ed to death. That looked awful with everyone looking like wax. So I'd take grain any day of the week.

Now the SMOKEY & THE BANDIT 4k has film grain which I never seen before on commercial tv telecast, VHS, laserdisc, dvd and blu-ray. The 4k doesn't look like I remember seeing it. Looks nice but. My favorite sequel of all-time is: STAR TREK 2: WRATH OF KHAN.

Evil dead 2 The blend of Horror and humor was an excellent idea as a whole

My favorite sequals are always the austin powers films

My favorite sequel would be top gun maverick I'm surprised no-one else said it actually lol

The Dark Knight

I do not mind grain but what I mind is this most of this community obsession with grain, and sadly most do not know what it is. There was another video put out that was good on regarding what grain is. I would also argue that the grain we see in 4k blu rays today are not the original grain and a digital grain overall.

Grain is natural it's not something you want to fight. I avoid releases that are marred by DNR. With a good TV and D65 white point the grain falls into place and you can enjoy the most detail

Empire Strikes Back

T2 Or Terminator 2

Grain is always welcome to all classic films but dnr it or remove it removes the way it was ment yo be seen in

Hey John, are you going to review Godzilla x Kong: the new empire 4k uhd?

My favorite sequel has to be Aliens from the original alien It's an excellent change from the original film while it's a Horror film and bringing in comdry and action and still an great actions. Plus the performances from the acting and score along with the Directon by James Cameron Plus it's 4K removed the original grain in the film which sucks! Its was filmed with grain not Ai!

T2 i mean it's terminator 2!

Sigh dnr and ai useage in those Cameron's 4Ks were so bad I decided not to buy or get them at all. Not even digitally even. Even if i got a digital copy i got rid of it. It hurts to remove grain from the film

Man those 3 films were ruined on 4K (apart from abyss) true lies and aliens were ruinted especially from Aliens which is really unfortunate from the ai and DNR used in the films