What is Gnosticism? 

He's really bias in favour of gnostics for some reason! He is presenting ideas as facts, and imo, twisting reality into his narrative. Dismissing other Christian writers of the time as liars and deceivers is strange.

@@LJ7000 who is doing that? I’ve never seen either of those things happen on this channel or on Let’s Talk Religion. I think you’re taking dispassionate historical analysis as some form of polemic. I would examine why you think this if I were you.

This intro is great! I'm used to seeing academic discussions online about Gnosticism assuming the theory that Gnostics didn't really exist and we need to drop the category altogether. It's good to finally see Brakke's work given the attention it deserves and presented to a popular audience! I take it that you don't follow Turner's theory that the Sethians eventually wandered away from Christianity, becoming more Platonic in the process?

It finally happened!!!

When you say that "religions are internally diverse", there are members of religious groups that will disagree with that. Many Orthodox Jews in Israel don't consider Reform Judaism to be a legitimate form of Judaism. And many Jews don't consider people that blend Christianity with Judaism religiously Jewish.

Couldn't agree with you more....My Baptist pastor when asked said that the reasons the Gnostics were left out of the mainstream christian faith was because they didn't believe in Jesus Christ as described to christians.....The way christianity was brought in Kenya and explained to us is wanting in many levels..

@@gracemogaka7486 How ironic of your pastor when that period Kenya was still believing in Shamanistic religions.. the Gnostics are an Umbrella group of Jesus, Mani, ZoroAster believers, who had key knowledge that no one else in the physical realm had access to.

@@magnuscritikaleak5045 that's nonsense. They clearly considered the God of the Jews to be evil and the devil as a servant of their Invented God. You can see how the cults have used these ideas as they follow Lucifarinism. "it was good" is a claim from Torah for each thing God created. Gnostics are clearly childish thinkers who arrogantly believe that if they were God they could have done a better job- their simplistic ideas about life feed this. Job "if we take happiness from gods hands should we not also take suffering" Adults don't want to live in a non suffering world of candy floss and cushions. Gnostics are children in the extreme

@@jollyyeholiver1578 Why do you belittle a group of people who have a different ideology to your own? Instead of offering insight or opposing views, you choose instead to belittle and mock; such comments are far more childish than the complex belief system you so easily abhor.

@@WhyOhWhy123 which is where we have to disagree, they are not very complex in there theological concepts. It's a highly simplistic theoretical approach stemming from an arrogant assumption that they could do a better job at creation. They have no support in scripture, which is why they have to ignore it and invent ideas out of thin air. Considering that the gnostics end up supporting the serpent, kinda supports the notion that the Gnostics are an early branch of Luciferianism. They accept christ and the snake- and have probably sown the seeds of the Lucifarin cults that today see Jesus as Lucifer. I see nothing in their theology that deserves to be respected and ridicule they deserve. Adding stupidity to stupidity can add to the complexity doesnt do anything for the search for truth however, actually makes people more lost.

The similarity is knowledge

Gnosticism emerged from Buddhism :-)

@@janhavelka5081 so true!

@@janhavelka5081 Confucius is better and wiser, than any false prophet you see whining on television for big bucks.

​@@janhavelka5081gnocism came from the early Christians who were murdered by Paul formerly Saul along with Stephen.

True hermeticism. They are kinda glass half full while gnostics are glass half empty. Not saying it’s bad, I just enjoy learning

There is a sect in Christianity call Gnostic Christianity :)

@@wisdomoftheages8026 it seems that the hermetic, gnostics, and alchemists each claim to be the progenitor of the other. If you believe jung's interpretation alchemy originated in china then traveled throughout the world copulated with other cultures and back and led to hermeticism as well as what is said here then there are the hermetists who claim all occultism stems from them but are only half true but perhaps I don't know the proper hermetic texts to read. I keep hearing a lot of them are corrupted

All hail the mighty Meshuggah 🤘

meshuggah is incredible

Humans can’t tell you about God

@@skrillawarlock Neither can god apparently.

@@skrillawarlock So then you think that Jesus wasn't human?

here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

@@divestedhappyblackwoman3465 The force of living and what constitutes it is self-evident. God wouldn't need to tell anyone nor would be obligated to. I'm an Agnostic btw.

Protestants seek God individually a lot of Protestants are gnostics and don’t even know it. I don’t know what sect of Christianity you are referring to when you talk about the Church but if you are talking about Prots then Martin Luther already took out the middle man.

Right. Bad for the business model. Par for the course the church has forgotten that being in touch with the Spirit can't fit into a cerebral style of understanding. This is why Jesus was so upset with the phariseeism of that day. The Spirit of God cannot be catagorized by the human intellect.

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"Bad for business" was mentioned a few times in the movie " The Godfather". Life is very curious !

But apparently the states been effective. Or atleast their propaganda has been. I like that Ukrainian flag bro lol

Thank you for appearing in the video and for your expertise! And likewise! :)

nice

Its wonderfull you Both together

OMG I love the content both of you guys create This is amazing!

Ditto! Some of the best learning channels around

Sabbath is no longer for us to keep, otherwise we would ruin the 6th commandments, which says: DO NOT KILL! Matthew 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: it is the sabbath or the 6th commandment. Cant have both. Souls, know and understand the bible as we all should: 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. The 2 most important commandments for us to keep TODAY are: Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Matthew 22:39 “And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.”

Modern Gnostics in Egypt? Are you sure you aren't confusing gnostics with the coptics or Copts (they are the biggest Christian group in Egypt and are largely brown)?

@@diansc7322 yeah, they were Johannites or something like that, they weren't Coptics. Johannites have a few churches in the Northeastern United States and at the church I did the service at, they were all Egyptian, however I believe one man was Libyan. I guess North Africa largely being Islamic maybe led to an increase in emigration for Christian communities but I'm also just a dude with very little understanding of the religious goings-on in North Africa so take what I say with a grain of salt 🤣

@@definitelynotfbi119 interesting, I haven't heard of this group before of of christians in Egypt besides the mainstream sects (orthodoxies, Catholics and protestants), maybe I should look on them

@@diansc7322 Gnostic christians were decimated by mainstream orthodox christianity; therefore, they had to go occult for survival.

here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;

They used to admire western civilisation before we fell into self destruction and wokism

@@sebozz2046 you mean until it was only about the distruction of others, as it has been since the begining of western civilization?

I love seeing this interaction between East and West in honesty. One of my other favorite examples is the West Östlicher Divan by Faust, inspired by the Persian poet Hafez.

@@ImperatorGrausam "And to Allah belongs the east and the west. So wherever you [might] turn, there is the Face of Allah. Indeed, Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing." Surah Al Baqarah Verse 115

Other big boys like Megami Tensei series and Eden!. The 80s and 90s Japanese pop culture seems to have some sort of fascination with Gnosticism?

The communication from God our creator, and our creation. Demiurge. Jesus/Lucifer

In a way this is akin to the Vedic notion of Maya; it's not that all is illusion, it's that our perception(s) are illusory due to ignorance. The One True Reality or God *is* here and now because there is only God in Reality.

@@333STONE Wrong.

@@profile_01 I wonder if the Wachowski's are aware of Gnosticism? This all seems prime for a twist in a Matrix movie.

21st century gnostic teaching, through memes.

He was actually very irresponsible by claiming a consensus when there is not one in order to present his view as the only viable one on early christian history.

@@nisibonum7634 his consensus is his own conclusion. It does not stand as a finality. I didn't even see it that way. Like I said. I like how he tried to site his sources, named the era, and did HIS best to explain what he's researched. Doesn't have to be perfect. That's why I said I respect the effort. Please tell me your response though (not being sarcastic at all), like what sources should be checked out or read to dispute his?

@@theDAVIScomplex No that's fine, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or mean in my decent either! What I mean specifically is at 28:00 he states that the idea there was 1 church and people broke away in heresies has long been abandoned by scholars. This is simply not true, plenty of biblical and historical scholars still hold this view. He is eather gate keeping scholar to not include these experts, and doing so without being transparent of such, or simple lyings. In both cases he is presenting his view as a consensus in a deceptive manor.

@@nisibonum7634 I think I see what you mean

@@nisibonum7634 I think most scholars who maintain that position are not only scholars of religion, but scholars who are religious and want to maintain that narrative because it suits there interests, in other words, they are compromised. In every video on the history of religion, there are going to be people belonging to some mainstream religion saying "No this guy is wrong because actually, my religion invented everything and only hack scholars disagree." Not all scholars are equal, not everyone gets a say. That said, I'm not an expert on the subject and there may very well be actual talented scholars and experts that are *not* partial in the matter, but if so, you should state a few of their names and their points so as to start a discussion rather than just say "Nuh uh not true, nope."

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Best of luck in finding a job after 🙏

@@luizmatthew1019 education is not always about finding a job.

@@davidstone5595 If it isn't good luck paying rent

Seth=Annointing

Bad comparison, the Vedic deities will be relegated as divinities sprung from The Abyss much of how Greco-Roman deities and Hindu Pantheon are often attributed by early Hindus as born from the bowels of Abyss or the primordial waters of Tehom, whereas Sethian texts akin to "On The Origin of The World" considers these Pagan worship of Primordial Abyss/Tehom as false Even the concept of Brahman comes after centuries if not millennias of development, on top of Buddhist rivals of the pivotal battles between concept of Hindu eternal Atman/Jivas and Buddhist Anatman/Shunyata in India, some of The Sethians and General Valentinian Theology also considers the concept of Psyche/Self as belong to second category of Yaldabaoth/Demiurge/Craftsman's belonging, akin to how Christian and Jews are belonging to repentant Sabaoth and his Retinues (resembling of Eternal Buddha of Lotus Sutra in terms of achieving enlightenment by countless Kalpas before creation of The World after he found Prajna and achieve Enlightenment in remote metaphysical realms or as Adi Buddha with his consort White Tara, much like Sabaoth gained Sophia's own daughter "Zoe" for accompanying Sabaoth to helps his missions to gather the "Psychics" so they can saved and became "Pneumatics") The Pneumatikois is considered to be superior to Psikhikoi/Psychics (belongings to Temples, Synagogues and Churches) and Hylics/Materialists (Pagans and Atheists, as even Platonists like Plotinus happens to criticise the Christian Sethians and Valentinians too), if anything the three categories resembles more of Islamic distinction of Mu'min/Believers, Ahl Kitabi/People of The Book and Kuffars/disbelievers/polytheists

Europeans and indians have Aryan origin. Thus we have huge similarities in religion and culture, more than we would like to admit. Just compare Greek and early vedic gods.

@@ohamatchhams I disagree. The similarities are too obvious to deny. I wasn't talking about "original Hinduism". I specifically said "Vedanta", which includes a variety of post-Buddhist schools of deeper self-inquiry with the pursuit of an experiential understanding of "god", the "self", and "existence" and our relationship with "existence", along with "what's required to exit the cycle of samsara". They have framed the much older ideas of gods and goddesses in this way to create a vocabulary for more esoteric ideas.

@@myfuture3453 So true! I am not a scholar but have spent thousands of hours studying and reading "Hindu" literature. Millions of hours still wouldn't make a dent in the subject. But I was amazed at how familiar their stories are and how relatable the characters are too. It isn't so "exotic" or "unapproachable" as one would think. Our cultures are much closer linked than we are taught to believe. The cultural "divorce" between India and the West became finalized when Great Britain ruled them for a hundred years.

Gnosticism is represented tpday with a new name, "Freemasonry", "G" they recruit members from unitarians, rotary club. lions club, YMCA, boys scouts, etc. they rule the world, the UN their headquarters..... they are before everybody, but no one sees them!!!!

It's an internet photoshop that doesn't exist on the walls of any church.

Yeah, I seriously doubt that THAT among all this garbage is what Christian’s have the largest issue with

@@universalconquest4447 Even though it’s very much stated to be true? Get your facts straight.

@@paulrance5445 The picture was photoshopped to appear as if they are kissing on the lips. Learn your Bible Paul and then act as if you know what you're talking about...

@@universalconquest4447but the Bible says he did that!

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here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Yes also beware of false teachers Who call their channel word2believe.

It's good for be weary, but if you check the channel a bit more you can decide weather or not it is propaganda/adoctrination. I've decided that it's not Christian propaganda, but to each their own.

Check out Elaine Pagels, Hans Jonas, and Carl Jung. They all have works on Gnosticism that many Neo-Gnostics are influenced by.

@@AbandonedVoid Theosophist Madam Blavatsky had interesting takes, but her massive influence unfortunately influenced tyrannical dictators and questionable people.

@@gweenpoole3545 No such thing as Christian Propaganda.

Lol

Dude, these are false texts... this isnt the bible at all

@@ToyotaNutjob Can you tell us how the Bible was compiled?

If you think theres anything good about gnosticism youre delusional and a heretic.

Sipping on ?

Gnosticism is represented tpday with a new name, "Freemasonry", "G" they recruit members from unitarians, rotary club. lions club, YMCA, boys scouts, etc. they rule the world, the UN their headquarters..... they are before everybody, but no one sees them!!!!

@@davido3026 I bet a lot of ignorant people call you crazy. Just know that educated people agree with you.

@@davido3026 in Reality Freemasons are Orthodox Christians, who hijacked the movement, because they rejected Mandaenism and Manichaeism, the are not actual Gnostics.

@@demonlord8398 aww nice man. Who are they?

@@ColossalPenisMcgee Who are who?

Gnosticism is represented tpday with a new name, "Freemasonry", "G" they recruit members from unitarians, rotary club. lions club, YMCA, boys scouts, etc. they rule the world, the UN their headquarters..... they are before everybody, but no one sees them!!!!

here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Ephesians 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!

look up his friend and colleague Dr. Justin Sledge at ESOTERICA another youtube channel, plenty of academic content on kabbalah there.

Well, we humans are their source of energy, their battery, angels and demons of his kind taking energy from us... The most simple explanation

@@MrNikosme most simple assumption i guess

You are either missing the hidden agenda behind the entire message, or else in full agreement with it.

Rome didn't want to accept Islam because of the strict prohibitions against paganism and alcohol whereas Christianity was easily molded by the Vatican to cater to the Europeans who could not let go of their traditions. Even the Christian-Roman image of God is eerily similar to the depictions of their original top deity, Zeus.

@@phillipholland6795 my God please educate yourself lol

@@mariskamahi6335 Even the Neo-Latin languages like Portuguese and Spanish say Deus to mean God. It is you who needs to educate yourself.

@@phillipholland6795 I'm no linguistics expert, bit I know that Deus isn't just Greco-Roman. It is derived from the Proto-Indo-European language for the Sky Father, Dyeus Phater. I'm not sure you could use that to say they couldn't let go of older pagan gods. That being said it is quite possible that Constantine syncretized the Christain god with the Roman sun god Sol Invictus.

@@jonathanshepherd5515 You will find no argument about that. However, Constantine himself worshipped Sol Invictus and received some kind of "revelation" from the sun (according to him, apparently) which influenced his conversion to Christianity somehow. Let's keep in mind the fertility worship of rabbits and eggs, the fertility goddess Ishtar from Babylon (and several coastal mediterranean pagan religions) which all got incorporated into Easter. Or the ten day Winter Solstice celebration called Saturnalia, which showed appreciation for the end of the sun's cycle, the shortest day of the year, and end of the dreaded winter that ancient Europeans dealt with year to year for centuries. It was a holiday of drunken cheer and debauchery, and gift exchanging too. Santa Klaus is a later Germanic/Nordic addition, draped in his hellish red fur. Krampus also originates from that region. Fire worship (Yule logs), Evergreen and mistletoe worship (because they survive freezing weather), and ancient pagans in Northern Europe always worshipped reindeers (and bears). Syricans never had any experience with elves, reindeers, yule logs and mistletoes, painted eggs, or trick or treat practices. They never dressed up as demons parading through the the town asking for candy. It appears many of these traditions survived in SOME form through modern Christianity. I wonder who's responsible for that. My guess would be some kind of money making machine, which was highly organized and exclusive, and would probably need to have a good grip on the people (having some kind of claim over Rome perhaps? the largest and most prominent empire of the time, which was at it's peak and in a period of peace and stability, and were already starting to experience an influx of Germanic people by the 2nd and 3rd centuries AD). Just a thought.

Gnosis is the spiritual insight gained from theoria. It's a specific part of Christian mysticism. Look up "Theosis" and "Quietism"

I would say “understanding” rather than “knowing”. Successfully applying understanding.

Innerstanding

As Jesus said - “you take away the key of knowledge because you did not enter with yourself. And those that were entering, you hindered”.

True understanding implies information being transferred losslessly without any added noise. It simply doesn't occur in objective reality to any degree of true knowledge. The only information that can be understood is the fact that the universe exists and you are a viewpoint of it. Almost everything else is only made up categories made up by humans agreeing on certain logical axioms. Nirvana like experiences reflect on that one fact and the difference between objective reality and subjective reality. All else is inferred subjectively by the individual by experiencing existence itself and knowing it's an illusion greater than the ego and the one truth tells us we're the universe more than we are ourselves.

Ephesians 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!

Ephesians 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!

Its finally cool to be a nerd! If it was 20 years ago my ability to recite all 150 pokemon would have made me king. Nerd fights made me lol have a like

i see it more of a political fight cos i doubt these ppl are truly religious it's just them pushing their political agenda

Ephesians 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!

Irrelevant details, Simply when you need to prepare a sandwich, learning the life history of the man who first made sandwiches is totally irrelevant.

@@Thewonderingminds You may have commented on a different comment than intended, since I didn't talk about history of sandwiches. But in case you have intentionally replied on my comment, please do expand a bit on it, cause I totally fail to follow what are you up to with these sandwiches.

@@DanielJackson2010 Experientially I'm stating that it's totally futile attempting here to explain with a few words or statements that which is passed on and transferred with immediate interaction of questioning.

Watchtower was and still is a Jehovah's Witness publication, which has been controversial to say the least, and like any publication should be read keeping critical thinking everpresent. I will refrain from adding my own opinions on it here.

Having been brought up as Christian was very exposed to the kingdom hall for some of childhood and young adulthood into my 30s. I can state facts of the practices of jehovah witness and the kingdom hall that is not at all what one would think is Christian behavior. I have studied deeply in that religion and I well say there sect of belief. Although they are knowledgeable on pagan holidays and names but yet they are pagan in other ways

How do I find those guidelines?

@@ihavenoideawhatimdoinghere6285 just research it online and read into it

Whatever makes you sleep at night

​@@yozora8848 Ah m'lady (tips fedora) science rules amiright

Gnosticism seems very narcissistic to me

Well, gnosis is knowledge in Ancient Greek. So I suppose they are related in a sense that both languages are indo-european.

Could gnan/gyan be related or the same as the Jhanas known from Buddhism?

​@1dog915 no, that's another sanskrit word - dhyana. Could be related to ñanas in Buddhism, but I'm not sure.

here we go jo the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Ephesians 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!

That's a bit of a modern Western take on it, and sounds a bit reductive. They included virtually nothing discussed here in the compilation of the Bible. It was hardly some random sexist vendetta against Sophia and womankind. Where in the Bible do you see the male sex being said to be "divine"? After all, Mary is essentially worshiped in the Catholic church and always has been. The vilification of Gnosticism probably came from many different motivations, the least of which not being that it wrests control from the governing church and makes "the kingdom of God is here and now" a reality. And further, if there is real truth in Gnosticism, all of these events perfectly make sense in a world made by Yaldaboath.

@@realCharAznable why do you ask "where in the bible" when OP was clearly referring to actions taken by people in the Church, not the contents of the bible itself. Bad faith questioning.

​@SorchaSublime he mentions clearly two instances of drawing directly from the bible so the fella you're replying to is justified in his response

As a priest your not tough any of this. All you get is a thousand years of propaganda that has not only covered up but destroyed and killed all the early "Christians" that disagreed with the ones in power.

@@dugclrk thank you for the heads up

Are you Orthodox or Protestant? It says Kenyan Methodist Church on your YT profile header. If you are Methodist then you are a Prot. The 3 sects of Christianity are Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Protestant

So,do you think that peace can be achived between the gnostics and the orthodox?

@@-_-president-_-richardson-9705 good one, there is need for understanding the two schools, where they collided at and the failure of managing these interesting faith traditions for the glory of God and path ways by which humans can understand the will of God. Peace is attainable in differences of opinion and as well as in agreed difference and so on. There has been peace which can be worked towards agreed disagreement in out time. 👍

why is it when read the bible "something is missing" and then read gnostic "ah there it is" and at same time if read only the gnostic text "something is missing"...... well the orthadox fills it, despite being "incompatable" [note that the pike document which predicted ww1 and ww2 (passed) sied WW3 will in part be triggered by tricking athest and christains to kill eachother] - all are just "a side of the SAME coin"

Devas in Hinduism are considered to be Fateweaving Archons in Christian Gnosticism, in fact Manichaeism has equation of the spawns of fallen rebellious Archons to be among them being devas, which also equated to Zoroastrian daevas with very demonising of Vedic/Rigvedic deities alongside Buddhism which sees Hindu devas to incapable to deliver sentient beings out of suffering/Dukkha Vedanta/Advaita Vedanta Theology worships Atman as "eternal soul" which is fallen under the categories of "Psychics" and "hylics" in Valentinian School of Gnostic Christianity

here we go jo the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I keep coming back to this video

@@hannahlennertkristiansen4797 how was it life changing for you? If you don’t mind me asking