I mean, sooner or later, with or without Bonfire, if you put 20 handtraps in your deck, you're bound to open a hand full of them. There's too many Ash, Maxx-C, Belle, Veiler, Impermanence, Nibiru, and Gamma in your deck. Also, maybe it's not a good idea to take away your lesser consistency cards and replace them with more tech cards just because you run three Bonfire.
People need to realize it's better to run a solid amount of board breakers and hand traps so you still have room for combo starters but are not screwed facing a 6 negate board
@@realisticsoul7597 it's exactly this type of people, keep pushing for more and more handtraps that we are forced to put more extenders or more handtraps of our own. It's also the prime reason why backrow decks like Labrynth and Stun variants are thriving right now. Yeah you have 3 handtraps in your starting hand? Yeah, cool, let me set my 5 backrows, what're you gonna do about it?
@@prophetmuhammad3890idk about that, seems like a ludicrous statement to me. Not only was doober the only SE player to make it out of top 16, he went all the way to the finals. His build was also top notch without any of the kashtira nonsense. Playing imperm on the pendulum columns is strong, but also very telegraphed, though it would be more impactful to mix it up by sometimes playing imperm in the extreme columns, and sometimes just bluffing it. But it is quite clear that doober was by far the best SE pilot in this tournament as the imperm placement is but a small misplay.
@@admontblancyeah man there is no way in hell you can make this statement when he subversioned his OWN fucking Kuriboh…. If he didn’t do that he literally wins 2-0.
41:55 As a Dino player, this is why having Misc. at 3 is fantastic. I get "Called By the Grave" a lot with Misc. and having that 2nd Misc. is crucial not only for Veiler, but also against Nibiru and Ash Blossom for any proceeding Dino plays.
@@Omegagrandmaster I know, but the fuck were they thinking. Released cards earlier then they should have and no limits or anything when its dominating. Also then giving the best searcher in the next set
@@zakariaelhimer1325going second is already a guaranteed L for most decks. I do hope you losers get what you want and they ban maxx c. The seething over having no chances without winning the coin tosses will be glorious.
Everyone: "Superheavy samurai got hit in banlist, remove your drolls from your deck guys since no one is gonna play it!" VodkaForFree with SHS w/calamity lock: "It's free real estate"
@@theobserver480you can respond to the crimson dragon, or actually you can just CL1 negate the crimson dragon since it NEEDS to be CL1 or Calamity misses timing
@@hapol4210 for context, I was watching in a public place on my phone with a wireless headphones then out of nowhere just laughed out loud. People around me look at me funny cuz I laughed at that interaction so I don't see the connection between the thing ur saying to the thing I'm point at. Or am I missing something?
Chat loves to make a fuss about not putting imperm in the pend column even though it didn't matter any of those times. It only comes up when they don't have wakaushi in the opening hand or when it is a turn 3 imperm with a monster you didn't clear. For turn 2 shs, they would still lose to imperm if they didn't open wakaushi. If they have extenders you would still lose regardless of the imperm, assuming it is your only disruption.
Unchained in tcg was tier 1 while playing board breakers like TTT, thrust qnd change of heart. It is more difficult for unchained to compete within a maxx c environment and unchained also got powercrept
Honestly I think handtraps make the game fun. It allows interaction between the players and not just “I go first enjoy the show” Maxx C is an exception though. That card is outrageous and ruins every game it’s in.
17:50 if he wanted lethal he had to leave kitkal so he could make it SS again with Zealantis, triggering princess to pop it, and I think that would be game as long as the mill 5 whiffed. But maybe he was scared of mills and didn’t want kitkal in GY, so he did that line and just hoped it was enough damage. Unfortunate
I wonder 🤔 if it's worth returning back to master duel ? After a hold year not been on ? And is dytron and eldlich still top tier ? Never use them just face them year ago .
I’d say wait a bit more, maybe after snake-eyes stops being tier zero and we have some fair diversity (which might take a long time.) Also, no, drytron and eldlich have been powercrept like fucking hell.
@@badusername3136 thx , saw a video about snake eyes just now and few past videos first branded, runick , tear, kashtira , labyrinth , now snake eyes , 👀 holy crap glad i took a year break .
I hate it so much when maxx C decides games. I'm taking a break from playing because I've decided I just can't with the format + the minigame. Still enjoying the Dkayed's commentary and the top tier games in the tournaments.
You'll never stop crying. If they ban maxx c what will happen is that you'll start crying over all the cards that then "need" to be banned and it will just never end. Everyone has been like that in the tcg since 2017. Before it was banned it was because it was sacky at 1. And before it was limited it was semi limited "does nothing". You people just can't stop crying, and no matter how much we tell you that your whining will only get you more misery you just can't stop.
@@admontblanc Just because nothing will be a perfect solution that will leave everyone happy forever doesn't mean it's not worth taking steps towards improvement. Please don't use that flawed logic to defend a card that has been terrorising a region for pretty much a decade straight. Complaining is the only thing we can do since the game is in Konami's hands, it comes from a place of caring and knowing things could be better. Also, there's a bit of irony in you writing a complaint about people complaining, don't you think?
@@admontblancActually brain dead. We as players have a right to complain about what we want changed for a better game state that’s how games have worked for decades. If you think we need to just shut up and accept a worst game state then you are actually an idiot.
@@inakimendiberri2226 it's almost like I can see how it went one way and you reetards still defend this idiocy. There's no solution at all dumbass, it has been done in the tcg and all it achieved was morons like you, who pretend like we don't know what will happen, still defending the exact same approach and expect a different outcome, the exact definition of stupidity. Finally I'm not so much complaining, I actually want them to ban maxx c so toxic idiots like you will finally quit the game.
Meta players forget that handtraps don't let you play the game when you have too many of them. Yes, it's good to disrupt your opponent for free on turn 0, but having even close to half of all cards in your deck be handtraps? You're just begging to brick constantly. Even decks built for pure consistency struggle with the staple brick issue. People should rely on their skill to pilot an archetype more in my opinion.
Dang, what a flop. Only one set of Sneks made it past Top 16, and they couldn't even win with Bonfire. That's not my idea of a Tier 0 deck. R-ACE are going to blow these "pure" builds apart once they get their new cards. Then comes the wait for the new Fire King, Infernoid and Sky Striker stuff to make ACTUAL Snake-Eyes builds worth a crap.
The tiers have always been defined by representation so your definition doesn't matter. And long term SE will just have more tops and wins precisely because it's easier to pilot for lesser players. That's something most of these decks have in common.
Because we are like this... We hate the top deck, and when it gets banned, something else takes the top spot and then we hate it again... It's just a cycle... It will come... Just wait.. 😅😅
Because you are a bronze tier player who only see’s 2 decks setting up big boards not what they are actually doing. We complain about Snake Eyes because it’s so much more powerful and harder to stop. Once it gets hit then we can talk more about Branded, SHS, and Lab in that order
@@mainganson4069 yeah, it's just the fact people don't wanna adjust their deck. alot yugioh players whines alot about an archetype if they can't beat it.
Snake eyes is tier 1 because master duel has an unprecedented format rn. SHS at nearly full power, cyberse pile still has most of its power. There’s a lot of tier 2 decks that are strong enough to compete against it. The problem is the gap between tier 1/2 and the rest of the game is massive after all the hits. Poor dragon link didn’t deserve what it got :(
Yugioh has devolved into handtrap hell and generic boss monster spam. Konami needs to fix these issues as a yugioh lover, I am getting tired of seeing maxc, baron, apolo, ash spam. Ban that shit and move on please.
Worst idea I’ve ever heard. These aren’t issues they are solutions to the real problems. Hand traps are tools to help the going second players. Generic boss monsters are end board cards for unsupported decks.
@@FrostReaveyou mean unsupported deck like super heavy samurai and snake eyes? What are you talking about. Yeah I take back banning ash but I think it should be semi limited. Hand traps are only necessary mostly because of generic boss monsters. MaX C doesnt balance anything, look at the top deck in the OCG and the top decks in the TCG. Its almost identical. I really dislike how everytime I build a deck in Master duel I put in the same 9 cards. Its super boring and limits creativity.
@@torranlegrand3094How about decks like infernoid or Salamangreat or Blackwing? If you only pay attention to the top decks you are gonna make uninformed opinions for everything below it. Do you want Branded and Labrynth to be the only playable decks in the game and have a deck be defined soley by how much personal support its been given? I have no idea why you think generic boss monsters are the reason for handtraps. How do you plan to beat Branded or Lab going 2nd without Ash Blossom or Mathmech without DD crow, called by the grave, or Ghost Bell. Maxx C, Shifter and maybe Droll are exceptions because they are floodgate handtraps not 1 for 1 trades
@FrostReave konami can make support for those decks if they want to. Blacking does not need generic boss monsters. Not all generic boss monsters are toxic. Yes I agree not all meta decks spam the same boss monsters but allot of them do. I have seen this meta shift after meta shift soon SP little knight will be in every deck period. Waw what variety. Are you kidding me if you think the only good decks are branded and lab without generic boss monsters is ridiculous. You know as well as I do that is factually wrong, snake eyes would still be a good deck. Lab is definitely a problem but konami will nerf that deck so why bother debating banning or limiting those cards. Konami will not ban cards like max c, baron, apolo, and access code. That is my issue. You do realize that no one likes floods gates that is why they are all at 1, it's boring as hell to play them and watch somone else play them. Brain dead yugioh. It's not fun to have the same cards in every main deck and almost every extra deck. Yugiog is a game of strategy, if you remove strategy from deck building the game becomes less about strategy and more about luck. It's a delicate balance and can only be accomplished by good developers. Konami has some great card design that cannot shine within the current meta because they suck at balancing their game because they just want to sell expensive cards to make money. Expensive cards are usually generic boss monsters.
@@torranlegrand3094 Bro slow down and read my comment. It’s obvious you are lacking some pretty clear game knowledge if you didn’t misread my comment somewhere. I never once defended Maxx C quite the opposite I separated it and all other “hand trap floodgates” as they ARE the problematic hand traps. As for Branded and Lab point have you seen Branded? It single handedly has the most support out of any deck ever printed it uses basically no generic cards besides handtraps. Mirrorjade is the ultimate in archtype boss monster. It is 100% unbeatable without hand traps and generic cards. That’s why I used it as the perfect example on why handtraps are necessary with or without generic cards. It’s not alone either @Ignister, Purrley, Mathmech, etc your assumption is just completely faulty A world without generic cards is one where the going 1st wins well over 95% of the time. If you think otherwise you are a plat player with severe of card and deck knowledge. And no they cannot support every deck there’s tens of thousands of cards and thousands of archtypes with more being printed every month and others being power creeped constantly. I have yet to hear a *single* reason generic cards and handtraps should be banned the meta wouldn’t change in fact it would be insurmountable with no one being able to equip specific counters or cover for their deck’s weaknesses. If you made a more specific point targeting the most problematic cards then we could talk but this is madness