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What is mixed fermentation beer? | The Craft Beer Channel 

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@photosmithy
@photosmithy 5 лет назад
Top video for those like me who want to experience something different to ipas 👍🏼
@shadowtigerpro
@shadowtigerpro 5 лет назад
Glad to see a video of one my favourite types of beer! Would love to see a video about Imperial Stouts/Baltic porters explained in the same style!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Noted! We'll look into it!
@modgrip805
@modgrip805 5 лет назад
5:00 'Sacchronomyces' - a yeast you can set your watch by ;)
@Zorro7Point5
@Zorro7Point5 5 лет назад
The spontaneous approach harks back to the way beer may have been discovered or how beer was a common beverage made at home, way way way way way back in the day. Cheers!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Indeed - it is how all beer was made for the first few millennia of beer being around and we didn't discover what yeast was until the 1800s! We thought it beer's alcoholic effects were a gift from god.
@brentrusche2056
@brentrusche2056 5 лет назад
Overall, another well-done video! Minor detail: ~1:23 - When discussing the first beer you said, "low acidity" when I think you meant to say either "lower pH" or "higher acidity."
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
You are 100% correct. Whoops!
@TheNacron
@TheNacron 5 лет назад
One thing that is really important about the first beer. Lactobacillus is added after boiling & cooling down. It is not really clear in the first part of the video. Another tangent, Berliner Weisse is traditonally made with Brettanomyces just try a Schneeeule. So Berliner Weisse is traditionally a mixed ferm beer ;)
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Sorry for any confusion! We didnt go into too much detail there as you can sour before or after the boil - depending on your own process and opinion. Most brewers will sour before boiling, in our experience at least, as they can halt it when they want by starting the boil. They sometimes not a short boil beforehand if adding packaged lacto - to make sure it is free of other microbes.
@jazzman5115
@jazzman5115 5 лет назад
@@TheCraftBeerChannel I can confirm that souring often happens before the boiling. Reasons for that are different and up to every individual brewer, but some factors are - hops is somewhat antibacterial and might kill the lactobacillus - a lowered pH through pre-boil souring lowers the efficiency of the hop "yield", meaning you have to use more (expensive) hops - a low pH at the same time is beneficial for some enzymes so sometimes brewers even add a little soured wort to the mash already Note that I'm not an expert on that (yet I hope), still wanted to mention those points. Souring in brewing is quite an interesting topic in general.
@wayleygg
@wayleygg 2 года назад
Fun fact, Bret Hart is from my hometown and you can see his family's original home (which I believe was sold a number of years ago) built on a hillside facing downtown.
@RoranRock
@RoranRock 5 лет назад
Important video, because sour beer is a vaste field of very different brews, and it's hard to categorize and to educate the public. It's also important to know what goes behind making good mixed fermentation beers, and it's hard justifying the prices to an uneducated public...long time in barrels, blending skills, huge amount of knowledge about yeast and bacterias, a yeast lab in the brewery, barrel knowledge...all that contribute to the taste, and price !
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Indeed! When something taked 3 years to make you have to actualise that cost of time! And skill...and of course risk!
@mrougelot
@mrougelot 5 лет назад
Fantastic video that will get more and more relevant as sour beers become more and more popular.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Not just sour beers - two of these aren't sour at all!
@ATL-xi7lo
@ATL-xi7lo 4 года назад
Excellent content and production gents! Appreciate the hard work. Learned a lot more about yeast.
@danmill72
@danmill72 5 лет назад
Excellent video guys. Bravo
@tastytales
@tastytales 5 лет назад
We just visited Brouwerij Boon, learned so much about Lambic beers! (Short video doc coming up in a few weeks)
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
looking forward to ti!
@tastytales
@tastytales 5 лет назад
@@TheCraftBeerChannel It was awesome! We were there on a brew day so witnessed the cool ship being used and the spontaneous fermentation. Pretty cool!
@callumyoung
@callumyoung 5 лет назад
I noticed You have an Allagash t-shirt on who have their own coolship for spontaneous fermentation. Visited them last year on a similar pilgrimage to the one you guys had recently and brought back an amazing Resurgam from their coolship program. Very delicious
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
We went a few weeks back as part of an hour long documentary we are working on! Coming out in a few weeks. Plus an interview with their brewmaster a few weeks later
@callumyoung
@callumyoung 5 лет назад
The Craft Beer Channel loved it there, beautiful place. Portland was great on the whole! Look forward to the doc, I also visited Treehouse and Trillium whilst I was out there
@Vinnie13
@Vinnie13 5 лет назад
Excellent video, I've really got into sours and mixed/wild fermenting beer. If you haven't visited Little Earth Project you need to! Blackened Sun in Milton Keynes is a newer brewery but all their stuff is Belgian inspired and he has some dead funky yeast skills 😁
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
We LOVE little earth - we put them in our breweries to watch video in 2017. And we have had some nice beer from blackened sun - looking forward to seeing them hit their stride.
@Zorro7Point5
@Zorro7Point5 5 лет назад
"Tame the Yeast" as the saying goes.
@langhebarolo
@langhebarolo Год назад
Just found your channel and I'm enjoying it, one question the first beer is sour but does sour not mean high acidity not low acidity?
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel Год назад
Hahaha fair question. So yes I guess high acidity is right from a flavour point of view, but we were talking pH... which would of course mean low acidity (around 3.2pH)
@langhebarolo
@langhebarolo Год назад
Great thanks for your response!
@patrickjennings5237
@patrickjennings5237 4 года назад
I love Boon!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 4 года назад
Us too
@kevinpayne3482
@kevinpayne3482 3 года назад
Love the allagash t-shirt have you tried their “true penny” Pilsner?
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 года назад
Sadly not. Is it as good as I expect it to be?
@kevinpayne3482
@kevinpayne3482 3 года назад
Better, it’s a seasonal beer they brew in the spring-summer months. I discovered it this year. Their next seasonal for the fall is called “haunted house” a hoppy dark ale. You can check it out on their website
@1408Zodiac
@1408Zodiac 5 лет назад
Now i finally know what farmhouse means and it can basically be anything 😅 no wonder i was confused. Also btw do you have any background in micrbiology? You seemed very confident and had few mistakes. Im impressed :)
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Haha no background but i (jonny) read a lot. And drink a lot.
@1408Zodiac
@1408Zodiac 5 лет назад
@@TheCraftBeerChannel The only thing i could put my finger on is that Brettanomyces has changed name to Dekkera bruxenellis but ofcourse 90% of the industry still uses Brettanomyces so you are not to blame for that one.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
@@1408Zodiac Good lord....why did the name change?!
@1408Zodiac
@1408Zodiac 5 лет назад
@@TheCraftBeerChannel Taxonomy reasons mainly, but dont worry it normally takes 10-20 years before it actually gets implemented by the industry. You might just see it in some research or something.
@MrJameskuzara
@MrJameskuzara 5 лет назад
Love sours, drink more of em! And make more videos about them! 👍
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
great! But just a note - only two of these were sour!
@MrJameskuzara
@MrJameskuzara 5 лет назад
@@TheCraftBeerChannel so instead of calling everything a sour I should call it a mix ferm?
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
@@MrJameskuzara Not quite - so "sour" is a taste profile, like citrusy or juicy or roasty, while mixed ferm is a process used in lots of different styles of beer. Like the difference between calling something "hoppy" and is an IPA. They aren't always both. So you could call the North Brew and the Boon beers here "sour", but the JK and DLS beers aren't at all sour, their pH isn't far off water.
@danjeweetzelf
@danjeweetzelf 5 лет назад
geuze is a mix of 1, 2 and 3-year-old lambic
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Usually they are. Although the one in this video is pretty all 3-year lambic, with a touch of young lambic to start bottle refermentation for carbonation. It is why it has such complexity and a higher alcohol content
@pyxel
@pyxel 5 лет назад
Pretty sure NB is not using natural lacto to sour their kettle sours. Little bit confusing.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Not sure either but the process is the same - it has to be left overnight at least to sour then boiled.
@thekentishpilgrim
@thekentishpilgrim 5 лет назад
Bit of a disservice to Kernel who also were one half of Colonel Toby no?
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Our humble apologies to them! It wasnt the key message of a short vid.
@NiceGoss
@NiceGoss 4 года назад
Why dont you guys rinse your glass with water in between beers?
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 4 года назад
We try to rinse them whenever possible but most important for us in filming is not breaking the flow of our conversation so we make the best possible video.
@ShortMan_123
@ShortMan_123 5 лет назад
Great vid- so what's the deal with Brewdog's Overworks? (I know I should take what I've just learned and answer myself but oh well :P)
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
You mean what kind of beer are they making? I believe all of them! There's been some kettle sours (Blitz), some "wild/tamed" beers like the Funk IPA, I believe they are building towards a house culture (or maybe a few), and then they have a coolship so will be making spontaneous beers already!
@ShortMan_123
@ShortMan_123 5 лет назад
The Craft Beer Channel Awesome, thanks! Ps their taproom in Ellon is awesome, definitely worth a visit!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
@@ShortMan_123 Oh we've been! Though I imagine it has grown to twice the size by now!
@ShortMan_123
@ShortMan_123 5 лет назад
The Craft Beer Channel It seemed pretty big! Check it out :P instagram.com/p/Bv_UR1NHpXo/?igshid=1lwpx2qdg8msk
@jamesw7983
@jamesw7983 5 лет назад
Are you doing the Toer de Geuze this year?
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Sadly not! Been to the last 2 so sad times.
@jamesw7983
@jamesw7983 5 лет назад
This year will be my first, looking forward to it!
@jamesw7983
@jamesw7983 5 лет назад
@Rare Brew I booked a bus for Timmermans, De Cam, Tilquin and Hannsens on sunday, and I may go to boon and oude beersel on saturday just walking
@michaeljames3509
@michaeljames3509 5 лет назад
Styles of beer invented by salesmen. It's hilarious.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
More the names than the beers... and they probably came from brewers struggling to explain themselves.
@pyxel
@pyxel 5 лет назад
There is many mistakes in this episode. Thank you for contributing to the general confusion.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 5 лет назад
Please enlighten us!
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