Camptos are the gazelles of the dino world. Give it a scanning AOE to watch out for predators and alert other herbis of danger. Also, grazing should be in the game. Berry bushes and other shit will not save you every day.
I feel like that fits struthi more, as they are way more fragile and are more fit to flee from predators than campto. What I would do for campto is give it its IRL size, which is bigger than the in-game size. I would make it tankier, give it a defense hide, the grazing thing you said, and possibly a shoulder charge attack. This helps the two playables to be more seperate from eachother.
I feel like lambeo’s heal call should only apply to other lambeos or other hadrosaurs. It’s very annoying when you’re about to defeat an eotrike but then suddenly it’s effectively at full health because of lamb.
What I would do for campto is give it its IRL size, which is bigger than the in-game size. I would make it tankier, give it a defense hide, the grazing thing you said, and possibly a shoulder charge attack. This seperates it from struthi by making it beefier and more defensive oriented, while it flees from dasp sized animals and bigger.
I agree where you put Metri for at least a lone one but they are pretty damn good in a pack! One of my personal favorites after a group of us 4 took down a Rex! Very good Teir list also and I agree with all the placements! Also just gotta say I think we are all with ya on the veiw of Amarga
We actually almost did the same thing with a group of 5 lol, unfortunately at one point we all had to heal, allowing it to escape. It was 4 calling tho. Poor bugger 😅
Friends and I played as Campto the other day and got a sucho to starve itself fighting us for 40 minutes. You may not be able to kill anything with Campto, but it's not completely useless.
@@VelocciYT Oh for sure. I hate that they just gave it the original attacks while almost everything else got something new. Give the little potatoes some helpful calls atleast!
I actually agree with this list completely. Finally a tier list where it seems you understand every dinosaurs. Other videos are more based on what they play or like rather then actual performance.
Id say iggy is actually low tier. C or D. Its absolutely crazy stam drain is just awful. I main iggy, prolly have more hours on him than most. Hes big, combat weight of 5000, which is respectable, same as sarco, stego, and sucho. But its claw attack only does 40 dmg with mediocre bleed at best. If you try to run away, you got 25, maybe 30 seconds of stam for sprinting, then whatever is chasing u will catch up. Good against smaller dinos due to its claw attack hitbox being low to the ground and quite fast, can do decent damage to most dinos that are smaller, but just has a hard time getting away.
I main deinonychus for a long time, its one of my favourite dinosaur, cause it make alot of fun, its so fast and agile, you dont have to worry about being attacked, if you fight, then you wanted to fight, but Deinonychus / Laten are having alot abilitys and they definility get their love from the devs, but id say, that they need a second or even third attack. At this moment it only has its bite attack and thats what makes it bad, plus the thing, that its made of glass, you literally touch it and it dies, if leaves would do damage in pot, deinonychus wouldnt be playable anymore. (Deino really needs a health buff and a new attack) But sometimes there are players, who are able to solo-fight a rex or allo and thats amazing, its a recommendable creature to play
I do think once they have a full set they will be incredible dinos, easily B tiers in my eyes Atm they sit together as their load outs are similar, just need some differentiation between them
I agree with the health buffs and new attacks, we know more attack options will be coming soon, but health is something it should’ve gotten a long time ago. Deinonychus is about 4 feet tall, and that thing can get like 3 shotted by a conca. Hopefully they fix that soon
I love the campto and think its a solid dino it has great survivability, skins and calls. It just needs a voice slot that adds movement speed and maybe health regen like the lambeo and it will be C tier
Cerato is op asf, bone breaking as a "tiny" dinosaur is rlly good for packs, i think in packs is a high A tier, solo probably the best or one of best medium sized dinosaurs, better than allo.
Imo dasp is a low B tier. Double defense daspleto is CRIMINALLY underrated, and if you use the old bone break attack instead of the charge up combined with a speed daspleto, you have a glass cannon. Am I biased as a daspleto/cera/sucho main? yes.
I would have to disagree with spino and rex being lower than bars. The longer cooldowns of bars let apexes get in more hits than bars can. Also, even a dd spino can avoid the tail fairly easily if it knows what its doing. Also, eo and rex are relatively even. Rex can win in a face tank even if eo has its sharpen applied. The bb also makes it so eo cant tail ride rex if it hits. However, if eo can ride rex, its done. Spino is also in a simular situation. Except its claws help it hit the eo when its trying to go around it. Plus, that bleed helps. Also, id rate spino higher than deinocherus. Spino does more damage, not sure if it has more health, but I think it does, and it has higher combat weight. Plus that bleed really helps it out. Otherwise, it was an entertaining and fun vid to watch.
Yea I had a feeling the list of S and A might cause a stir xD That’s some fair points tho! Who knows, maybe by time the next tier list is released I’ll make some changes, probs will happen! Will probs be next year when we get more creatures and more balance stuff :D
I think my only real disagreement is that Laten is ranked too high. It's speed is slow enough that a number of mid-tiers are faster than it. While it's jump is good, it's nowhere near Deinon levels and doesn't give you quite the same escape potential. The general raptor speed nerf hit it a bit too hard :(
I think laten is way better than deinon, it has better jump, higher stam, its more agile and the distance runner ability makes it uncatchable for most dinos, and ive seen people kill full grown dasps and allows as this thing, it just takes skill, which is why people think its bad even though its actually not. but I do agree that the speed nerf did hit it hard, but it's still very good, and it's only gonna become better when it gets its punce
I personally think mega has more of a fight against higher level opponents than metri, its small size means it can dodge attacks from big dudes, where as metri being mid-sized / taller than mega, often has to tank those hits :D
As a hard combat player ano is one of my mains that beast is S if you know how to use no way you losin aspecially if you have a lambeo friend or another ano friend you are immortal
@@VelocciYT man it been long since i stop visiting the lives cuz lack of the internet at universty dorm hope u doin well i m Rick btw had to change my email name to send some mails to teachers XD
I'm loving this game but I wish they'd focus on development of the game on one map and complete it before spreading resources for more maps when the one we have is still broken.
I get ya! I think panjura as it was the first map was a learning curve, however it can’t sustain a fully aquatic creature, which is coming after Gondwa
Imo every playable right now that uses venom is B tier at max considering everyone cried about megalania groups so they gutted venom and made it useless
Concavinator should have been in b tier it has a great bleed attack and the abilities makes it more special if you have a deffence subspecies and put the tail ability wich increases speed and turning radius wich makes the conca both strong and fast
Problem with conc is it has less health than a raptor and the hit box on it's claws (bleed) is small which forces you to get too close with such little health If they gave it more health and switched it's bleed to it's bite it would be amazing but it's lackluster right now imo
You mention that the Sarco has a charged up bone break attack. I play sarco often but was completely unaware that it had any bone break capabilites. Is this accurate?
@@VelocciYT I sincerely appreciate the clarification, Velocci. Boy, it would be nice if Sarcos did have bone break but I'd imagine it might present some balancing issues. Could be op. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
I gotta admit, this tier list is very correct, I would say ano should much lower but eh I don't mind since I don't really play it much, dasp however Is heartbreaking because the place you put it in is pretty true, dasp was done dirty by the devs and had barely any changes, even tho dasp has good damage and access to bone break, it isn't great in the speed, stam regen, and durability department which is why I hope dasp gets some of those fixes so it can take a few more punches, fast enough to run away from stuff it has a tough time against, and the stam regen to help traverse and make combat more efficient since it needs to stam to use quick a few of its abilities
A little late to the video, but I will say this, there's a few things I decently disagree with, for starters In my personal experience Alioramus is still put to low, i'd put it at a b or a, for the reasoning of, it's perfect at what it does just like meg, since it's the fastest carni in the game and has a formidable bite it is by far the greatest juvie hunter right next to meg to, I see that a lot of people rank it so low because they try to pin it against other adult mid tiers when that's not how it's meant to be played to begin with but even if you put it against bigger dinos they can still win, for example i can kill allos with one, it's the definition of a child snatcher who's speed can strike small dinos but also get away from bigger ones. Regardless my other gripe was that cera isn't as "good" as allo, which isn't true, since it's the smallest dino with bone break it holds extreme value as it's hit box is smaller and with its damage output plus def hide, you can obliterate allos, i've even seen solo ceras go toe to toe with rexes, they're ridiculous, anyways that's mainly what I wanted to say I agree with everything else mainly, unless you were to play on community servers where there's no mixpacking or stuff like that.
Bro you can kill an adult trike as a rex with 65% health left over after the fight. Maybe with sharpen horns it will take a rex down to 35-45% at the lowest. And that's if you face tank a trike.
I am still confused that why do they release dinos without their mechanics, but they do it, so why not make their stats good and change them later when they have their mechanic, Amarga is a good examble of this
@@VelocciYT Personally, I wouldn't have released Amarga at its current state, would wait till its mechanic is finished, even tho it *was* my most wanted dino in the game
@@MysteryDryo mhm, let’s hope it gets it soon! Tbf I think the devs planned like 9 unique abilities per Dino, so I’m curious on what they’ll be getting
I honestly believe Spino should be in needs work. Spino is in an uncomfortable position where it can’t outrun any land predators and is easily killed by a singular rex which are all too common rn. Spino simply isn’t viable on land. Add in the fact that spino loses to sarco in water, and cannot outswim a sarco, I genuinely think it needs work. It means that spino cannot run or compete with it’s competition without putting itself in danger of separate competition.
Metricanthosaurus is S teir, hear me out, if you have a pack of 3 metris you can basically kill everything that is not a apex, I've actually killed a eo as a metri, and me and a baby metri killed a megalania, they are insanely good if you know how to play them, also that stam drain is amazing when fighting. The metri playstyle also includes ambushing prey that sat down or is low on stam from running, as this means your drain doesn't have to do as much
Ok first of all that’s amazing you weren’t instantly crushed by that eo. However, tier lists are based off how they fair in the general population,not how well an absolute pro can do them. I’ve never had success with metri, which is a shame
@@EcoNBeBop I'm not a pro at all lmao, also the eo was pretty bad so we just ass rode it, also the thing that made us really strong is that if your opponent has no stamina you can just go sit down and heal which is how we beat the eo, by continusly biting it then healing, it was a tough fight for sure, and it was close, but we came out on top, also metris have high stam so running is always a option, but do remember, a solo metri is weak, but a pack of metris is God teir
some good points! personally in my eyes it ranks below mega due to the size of it, as metria is bigger it is still in the hit range of big dinosaur attacks, but megalanias low profile can allow it to dodge some of them. That being said, a group of megas and metrias is very effective
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I kill things up to metri size with campto, it takes alot of work to do and im not always successful, just the stam and turning it has makes it amazing for getting nonstop tail attacks, but i agree it needs something else other than just speed and stam
Venom is absolutely terrible. If you don’t have a pack, it doesn’t do enough to really make a difference, and since megalainia does so little damage, by it’s self it can’t do very much. That being said, I have killed an adult allo in a group of 3 before. Personally, I would have made it b tier, but go off haha. Also Sarcosuchus’ charge attack doesn’t do bone break, which makes it a lot worse, and it terribly needs a damage buff. That being said,I do agree with it being A tier, because it is a great ambusher, and (in my experience) can kill an ado bars in about 10 seconds with the charge bite and bleed attack
Time to judge every single breath you take and every opinion you have and get angry and offended about it (Joking Dw Been waiting a while for another tier listtt Keep up the great Content! xD)
You also can't forget the horribly wacky hitbox mega has, if you're big and slow and it just hugs your feet and runs in circles under you then you'll just miss so many bites that look like they're landing. Also, these might be hot takes but I think ano needs a stam nerf, it shouldn't have a playstyle of chasing things down and out stamming them so it can use it's bone break. most anos I see play like pursuit hunters lmao. And spino needs a second head ability slot so it can have both a charge and a regular bite (if rex can have it as well as a charge AND a damage boosting roar, I see no reason spino shouldn't be able to just use both of it's bites)
Nah. It’s justifiable for Rex to have two bite slots because irl, the Rex’s bite was insane. Spino tho, excels in using its claws to take down big predators, not its head. Its head is mainly for fishing, so I don’t know why they even gave it an option to choose for its head, but it is a good buff for spino, since spino’s claw attack is its specialty, it doesn’t really need the basic bite and can replace it with the crushing one. Plus spino actually has a claw attack while Rex doesn’t even get the option. Spino can also stack its defense for an extremely tanky build and can actually swim well, so I don’t really think it needs a second bite slot, since it can just use its claws instead of the normal bite and replace the normal bite with the crushing one.
I personally don’t think amarga is bad at all. The only reason why people see amarga as bad is because Rex can easily kill it. If Rex wasnt there or amarga would get a slight speed buff, it would easily be a-Tier as it can kill everything it’s size or smaller in 1v1
tbf i personally thought amarga was iffy from release, it was added with a knockback ability in mind, which it never got, so its sat in a weird position where it needs it. I do like Amarga, just think it deserves love
a slight speed buff wouldnt do very much as most things would still outspeed it. plus packs of dinos either mixpacks or just like 4 concavs can kill its super easy
@@RTKBlade so you are telling me every herb should be able to defend themself against Solo Dinos as well as packs? How is that balancing? Most bigger Dinos get killed by packs bc that’s just how it works. A speed buff would do a lot as I play on „Obsidian Jungle“ (it has stat changes) and literally nothing bigger attacks because they know they don’t have enough stam nor speed to kill an amarga and like I said it can kill smaller things. Most of the ones who are faster than amarga don’t have enough stam to keep up long enough
I have to respectfully disagree with some of your placements. While I don’t disagree with Eo being S tier, it definitely cannot win against bars in a 1v1. In a 1v1, bars is hands down the strongest Dino in the game when played defensively. It will kill anything that’s trying to push it, and it won’t even be close. You can even 1v2 rexes with it if you’re careful with stam. The problem with it is that it’s extremely susceptible to venom. If it loses stam, it can’t kite and it can’t do its big damage. Tyrannosaurus should also be S tier. By itself, when playing defensively, it will force any dinosaur into pushing it where it can then farm for a bone break. If it lands one, it wins. However adding another Rex to the fight changes the entire game. Two experienced Rex players will require either 2 other rexes to kill them, or a large and well coordinated group of lower tier apexes or mid tiers. Alberta and Styra are at least high end A tier. They can out stam, out run, outmaneuver, or outgun anything in the game. Alberta especially. I have solo’d sub rexes, groups of allos, conc packs and all manner of things with my speed Albert. I actually think it may be too strong. Styra is more vulnerable to quick bleeder types like allo and conc. However it will crap on concs and can out stam and outmaneuver allos.
mhm the Eo Bars placement is from my experience playing either, i think Eo is a lot easier for a newer person to pickup and play, with Bars you have to consider some of the attacks dont necessarily play into how you want them to (tail slam is very time based) where as with Eo its one of those pick up and play dinos that can get into the swing of things easily. Thats a good counter for the rex! I gotta agree with them, 2 rexes are very strong, but i do think if a rex is caught offensively, it can let itself down and get caught out, also being susceptible to bleed and if it misses a bone break it can be in a tough spot! Yea Sty and Alberta i was questioning my placement of them, in retrospect i shoulda put both at B or alberta at A and sty at B, two of my favourite dinos in the game, ruling the mid tiers
@@VelocciYT only thing is its hard to pursue them if they flee, but that just gives you a chance to heal. I healed all the damage the rex did to me, which was less than 20 %. Always keep your ano fully fed tough as its food goes down the drain
So. Let’s begin, rex vs stego. Rex out powers on stego 1v1 every time. Albert can smash megs easy. Deinocherius is no where near as good as spoon. Killed an eo on a conc Is a dasp fights an alio the alio is food. Kentro is a meme and have terminated many on my laten. Struthi….. I take it you haven’t got one Bars vs spoon bars is dead. Campto doesn’t need work just needs deleting Eo vs sarco if it’s coastal the eo is done Sucho vs Meg….. lol Crest vs alio. One bone break alio is dead. alberts can kill Sucho Meg iguanadon and deinocherius if played right. Barsboldia has the Stam of one of the corpses on the game and is not a tier poss a tier. Sarco is s tier. Duck b tier Iggy c tier
The nice thing tho is it’s attacks don’t cost stamina, and have a very reasonable cooldown. Also if you get attacked by a Rex, odds are you can outspeed/stam it, since rex is pretty garbage on both those sides, the reason why I think it’s not an S tier. (If it was good in those respects it would be absolutely broken lol)
I think stego need work on its Stam once’s adult it kinda horrible in Stam kentro needs a lot of buffs I don’t see very meany of them allo needs help alround I hear there good in packs but don’t see very meany of thoses if your running pack it’s usually trike Rex and bars with megs cera I love sty but it needs a Stam buff maybe more defense or armor but I’ve had a lot of success with sty truth needs work I feel they should deal a lot more damage for there sizes also at the moment venom doesn’t work they way it should and it’s useless so meg and metri I’ve been bitten by them when having Stam and can still gain it back even with the venom on me it seems wired I like iggy just haven’t figured out yet how to play it in a pvp I went defensive on mine and idk I feel if the lower how fast the Stam drains on them it would be better but the Stam drain on them is nuts I dislike how fast it drains it drains 2 fast I think the Rex can get further along then they can even with there speed
i do think that new paper has had a lot of discussion around it not properly being peer reviewed, although i doubt they will update spino and drastically change its gameplay
@@VelocciYT I would put struth at c or even b tier, because it is very “noob friendly”, as you said for eo, it’s just so fast and I have annoyed the crap outta mid-high tier carnivores like allo and Rex and suffered absolutely no consequences XD
@@EcoNBeBop True, but I still love it. It can’t do super good in a fight unless there’s more than one or two Metri’s. It’s why I play speed Metri, so I can escape better. (Unless it’s a Utah- can fight a Utah no problem)
@@Moths000 I actually was in a pack of 5 metris today, and we almost beat a pack of 3 dasps, unfortunately our leader got bone-broken on accident so they died. (Body down rule applies in that server)
I brought this game.. 1 week later i uninstalled it.. home cave campers and waystone campers. Juvi killers and KOS groups and mixed herb and carno groups. not a fun game lol
Should of tired a fast dino if you are solo as anything slow you are in for a hard time when you come across groups but if your faster it really doesn't matter I played rex for the first few days got to adult and then went to allo and haven't looked back tbh
Honestly thought about uninstalling path of titans,I don’t have a PC to be able to enjoy the game properly and frankly i haven’t had best luck with players on there I have maybe 10-15 people I call my friends, but some people are sorta toxic on there so it makes it harder for the game to be enjoyable when you cannot trust even your own group players because if hungry enough they will eat you and some servers with rules other than yours aren’t that good, and I’ve only enjoyed playing on your server which is kinda sad to say about the other servers 😂😬 and this list i honestly agree with 100%
never give up! sometimes it takes time, when i play games i rarely play with other ppl outside my friend group, so i also dont rlly find ppl on games randomly
@@VelocciYT your server is the only reason I haven’t, and I don’t have a friend group in my life unfortunately so I sorta hope that the players I meet on there don’t eat me 🤣🥲
I personally don’t rate Rex very high while it’s good vs other Apexes that’s it. Pretty much everything else can either outrun or run circles around Rex. I think it’s very overrated and way overused. Rexes will struggle to get food the only time Rex really eat is by bullying smaller Dino’s away from a corpse. I always ignore Rex if I see it. I don’t consider it to be threating at all since I mostly play mid tiers even Suchomimus can outrun Rex
Idk, should I grow an alio? If so, which varient? Ik it grows at light speed (on community servers) and in a pack it could be pretty good. It reeeeealllly needs bleed on its bite attack tho.
I'm sick of people putting das and deinon on low tiers... You're literally a pack dino, so either join a pack or play something else, I've seen packs of deinons taking on spinos and rexes countless times
I personally find that the dinosaurs above can fair better on their own, a rex against a group of lower ranking dinosaurs can usually be out manoeuvred where as the others above can fend for themselves quite a bit :) of course its all personal preference tho!
Iguanodon is in no way shape or form an A tier dino, it's stam drain is ridiculous you basically have some of the lowest stam in the game because of the drain so you can't escape anything and it's charge is a complete joke it literally takes 3/4 of ur stam bar n you move faster just sprinting, I can kill an Iggy with one Metri
Amarga is way stronger than everyone gives it credit for, just go Double Defense. Rex is by far the strongest dino in the game rn, It can face tank an Eo and Bars with moderate ease if it uses it's abilities correctly.
once its double defense its then quite slow, which does leave it vulnerable to be caught out in the open. Personally i think rex is in a nice position, A tier is still great, the herbis just edge it in other factors imo
anodonto is d tier because its tail attack has 0 range and other dinos can outrange it with their own tail attacks. it also has a very fast metabolism so other dinos can make it starve when its hunkered so it has to move and get food. Also since 99% of players in this game are playing trex which is a complete hard counter to anodonto. Rex charge does knockeback and can knock the ano out of hunkerdown where it just dies. Since it is so slow, the anodonto cannot outrun any dinosaur. All this combined makes anodonto f tier with amargasaurus
