@@jontargett3903 they're available now for rental at most indoor ranges. I'd say give them a shot first (pun intended I guess), and see what you think. If you can shoot them all back to back, I think it'll help you figure out which one suits you best. Side note: I just finished my first P320 build and maaaan that thing is sweet. No regrets so far.
Aaron and Jason have added a tremendous amount of substance to these videos. Please, please keep them in these. They are entertaining and knowledgeable both.
This was one of the most entertaining shooting videos I've ever watched. Fair honest assessment of each firearm. Excellent way to evaluate firearms, four different shooters running back to back firearms instead of the usual 1 or 2. The new gold standard for me. Fine job fellas.🇺🇲
Cz would probably take that as well. Being one of the original wonder 9's and continued development ever since with the omega trigger systems. Dirt cheap the polymer P07/P09 D/S action, the 75 series and SP01 are still subject 1k price range. And they just dropped the shadow 2 compact last year or so... long story short is anything CZ is typically punching up 2-3x in price with their pistols.
Really effective video with four different body types/sizes that viewers can match to their individual physical makeup for likely compatibility. Interesting to hear each tester comment on their likes/dislikes. Thanks for the upload!
@pugdad1248 Yea, the p10c is g19, p10f is g17, main difference in both cases is that its a glock made for hands. Another big difference is how they suppress, have 2 with red dots and silencers, and with all kinds of ammo never miss a beat. Glocks are generally less reliable suppressed, and I suppress everything nowadays
The CZP 10 F is a sleeper gun. It’s the best striker fried pistol available on the market currently. And it’s crazy that you can get one for 400 bucks or 500 for the optic version. And yet nobody seems to know that it’s the best.
I prefer the C but that’s splitting hairs… idk about the F but the C & S were both much cheaper than that. James Reeves and Honest Outlaw both had P10 on their best value videos. CZ’s marketing department is really dropping the ball. If I were them, I’d tune a truck load of P10F/C/S, Shadows and P07/09s to fire blanks and drop them off in Hollywood. Plenty of guns reach almost mythical status from being in the right movie
i think the PDP is a sleeper gun, it hasnt the image of HK but it has easily best grip and trigger on the market, i tested it in our local range. I only shot precision 25m but its good for polymer.
@@williamflowers9435 Paid $407 for my F with 22 round mags, threaded barrel, suppressor height sights and optics ready. I put a Compensator on it and red dot and that thing is a monster! My favorite gun. I have the S, C, and F, F is my favorite out of the 3, the S I carry in fanny pack or center console of car.
I’m a Glock diehard aswell ! But man these smiths makes me wanna purchase one for the value and everything it comes with just makes me want one but I just don’t feel right NOT carrying a glock
My ONLY issue with the M&P9 2.0 is the pin holding the grip in place spins and I had to locktite it in place. I don't shoot suppressed so I can take or leave the sight height. Ended up popping some trijicons on mine
Never had that problem with the pin in my 2.0. Put about 2k rounds through it now. Flat and steady. I'm not sure how I feel about the trigger even after the time I've spent with it. I want to like it, but idk. I'm willing to overlook it since you can literally change it for anything you like. The gun is my EDC and I trust my life to it over a Glock any day.
@@kidkoopa6389 might just be bc I decided to tinker with it and see which grip I like best. Fantastic gun that handles any ammo I feed it. Only reason I don't EDC it is Glock grip angles just work better for my hands getting on target quick
Best video on guns that I have ever seen. I would really love to see more categories done like this with the 4 of you guys! Compacts sub-compacts micro etc.
A very bias video if you ask med. Many guns ratet wrong because they are not used to the guns or sights. So its all rating according to what they prefer and are used to shoot.
To everyone involved in CF, fantastic video! I really enjoyed this content a lot. The honest reviews for each pistol were well thought out and very insightful for gun owners around.
All of these platforms are great. Guns will feel different to everyone. Just shows how many great options are out there nowadays and that’s a great thing!
Owning multiple HK firearms I agree with you but I gotta say if their hammer pistols were in the mix the VP9 would be toward the bottom in the HK world.
@@K-bob_45told you what? That a few individuals prefer the M&P over the VP9? That’s all it told you…they both are great guns and at the end of the day it comes down to personal preference
To me I shoot the full size Walther PDP the best and it has been 100% reliable so that would be my personal choice. The Sig P320 XFull would be my secondary choice.
You're probably going to say I'm just wrong but I really like my steyr m9. Yalls reaction shocked me. I feel like it shoots really well (line up the bottom of the sights, not the top)
Agreed, my Steyr shoots as well and I think a little better than my M&P9. The trapezoidal sights are just easier to bring on and line up on target faster too.
I agree, their issues with the Steyr is because it goes outside their comfort zone. It's like shooting an AK for the first time after being used to shooting ARs. It isn't the gun's fault if its far different from your expectations of how it should be handled. And the trapezoid sights are actually helpful for some folks with vision issues on the three dot sight system. You can see some of them also had issues with the H&K just because of the paddle mag release. Well that's a personal problem, not the gun's problem functionally. I have no problems with it and I do appreciate Steyr for coming up with a unique system that does work for some folks.
"You get what you pay for" The funny part about that statement is that your highest rated gun (CZ P10F, which I big agree is the best) can be had for very cheap as of the time of this video (lowest price I've personally seen on them is $287 for the non OR). I do generally agree with the Taurus and Hi Point being the epitome of "you get what you pay for", but CZ has really moved in with the P10 line dropping to these prices and challenged those brands to either step their game up or drop their prices even lower. It is mind blowing how great the p10 is, and even more so when you find out how cheaply you can pick one up.
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As someone in the Canik agenda, I’m surprised y’all went with a TP9SF instead of something from the Mete lineup, specifically the Mete SFT, which is a straight upgrade to the TP9SF in pretty much every aspect.
That's a good point, I've been curious how the Mete series compares to the TP9SF. I've NEVER seen one in stock for sale though at LGS so maybe they have the same issue?
Love my S&W and CZs. Glad they got a good score to reassure me of my choice. Now to find a well priced one in California is tough.. thanks for the content! Love it!
The Steyr comes also with regular sights. Walther and Steyr are absolutely underrated guns in US. They both have the best trigger and design. Steyr has the best grip of all guns I ever tested. Guys, if you don't see the superiority of these pistols your test is just a funny show.
I thought the same with the Arex. I have the L and I am recoil averse and have weak hands from a genetic condition and I have no problem with recoil management. I dunno what these guys are smoking and the trigger smooths out ALOT with use so that complaint is a bust too.
Interesting, I didn't realize Bul Armory made a striker fired gun. Their 1911s are some of the best without being ridiculously priced like a lot of manufacturers are with 1911s. Thanks for the recommendation.
This is how all pistol testing should be done. 4 dudes, a table full of modern pistols in the same category and sizing, score it out of ten, add it up and put the numbers in a pinned post in comments. Absolutely loved this. We all have various opinions and guns are all different to us so it's nice to see the reasons from each shooter. Again, I love this format. Question, is this the regular PDP or PDP Pro SD full size?
* CZ P-10 C or S at the top with my S&W M&P9 M2.0 and my FN509 Compact models. ** Second in my stable would be a SAR9 Compact, Zigana PX-9 Compact, BUL Cherokee Compact *** I only have 2 full size pistols being the RIA 1911 Ultra FS and the Taurus PT-92.
putting the 320, the Ruger American and the Canik above the PDP is insane, also they're omitting tons of things that need to be considered for purchase.
My top three would be Glock 17, H&K VP-9 and the CZ P10F. Wild card is split between the FN 509 and the Echelon. It all comes down to reliability, recoil and cost of the mags, I can adapt to everything else.
@@justinjones5431 I guess I’ve only rented them before but I personally didn’t think it was snappy. In my opinion the snappiest full size that I’ve tried, I would probably say is the cannik or the fn 509
On the VP9 mag release, I was in the same boat as Clint. Once you get used to the manual of arms, I find my grip breaks less when using the paddle release vs a thumb button, and it has become my favorite.
I have the Beretta APX A1 standard and tactical, CZ P10F, and Sar 9 Mete They shoot great, but the newest addition to my collection, the FN 509, beats them all
It is a damn shame that I cannot get some of these firearms in this video. Living in California sucks. Ultimately, I went with the SW MP 9mm 2.0. I would have love to try a CZ P10C.
I am an Arex fan and I gotta say, I think y’all were unfair. First the model you shoulda gone with is the L not the X. Having a better/longer grip would help with recoil. Second, it isn’t that snappy. I have weak wrists from a genetic condition and recoil averse and I think it’s fine. Then again, I own the L.
Love my SAR 9 I've put about 5000rds through it without a single malfunction including ammo I picked up at the range off the ground it just eats whatever you put in it!
The Heckler & Koch VP9L is the best striker-fired pistol in existence. It is a 9mm pistol with a 5” barrel, a 20-round magazine capacity, and an ambidextrous paddle magazine release for left-handed shooters.
personally I edc a Canik TP9sf, and I love it. yeah it falls short on options, but if it were optic cut, and had forward slide serrations, I think it would be the ideal universal carry pistol for people with larger hands
I own most of these pistols. The SAR9 METE is by far my favorite shooting pistol and best feel in the hands. The external safety is no biggie for me as I train with it. Next would be the PDP, then the M&P 2.0.
CZ P10C OR is my favorite gun by far. I just put an HBI trigger and it’s almost perfect to me. But many of these guns are really good too, it’s just our personal taste.
I Have a Canik Mete MC9 and i absolutely love it. Very comfortable to conceal carry and very reliable. I just ordered a plum crazy AR, a ATI GSG 16 and an American Heritage. 22 revolver from you guys. Cant wait to try them out this weekend
As a wrong handed shooter, the vp9 was my first buy. I love the eu style mag release. And the right side slide release feels buttery smooth. I just wish there were more after market parts available
Most parts for the hk p2000 are interchangeable with the vp9. Not much of an aftermarket but if you are looking for more recessed levers look into that. You can buy optic ready slides if you have the standard version. For aftermarket triggers you got grey guns kits that aren't too hard to install.
@@ZemuGaming1236 the biggest issue I've had has honestly been finding optics that are leveled. i tested two plates for a rds with both a level and checked measurements with calipers and so far have lucked out
