What Is The Best Holzfforma , Best Farmertec Saw Chassis & Best Saw Chain For Me? C83, RS or LGX 

Another interesting clip, just love your towns. Cheers from NZ

I agree. After you build an ms 660 kit, you can build any kit. My first kit was the ms 660 and it is still running fine. That was four years ago. The hardest part is getting the crank and case halves together. I must have watched Walt and Matt Olsen’s videos a thousand times. After that, the next hardest part of the assembly is the chain break. Walt help me with some of the chain break assembly. After you build the 660 you can put any kit together, although there are some minor differences between the various models. I later even built a 372XP and it was slightly different but I had learned my lessons well. I have my own procedures and use them from saw to saw. They must be pretty good, because all seven of my kits saws are still running. Walt helped me straighten out the control lever problems of the early ms 660 kit saws, but my last kits worked fine without replacing a lot of these parts with oem parts. My next kit will be the Stihl 200T kit if I can find one, or maybe the 038/380 kit.

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Nice content!

I call it storage condition instead of drying them out, but same thing. I crank them up and let them warm up. I then cut them off and drain all the gas from them. I then add a little FD gas to the tank if they are not already filled with FD gas, crank them up and let them idle to a stop. FD gas is premium non-ethanol gas with JASO FD oil in the gas. Good examples are Echo Red Armor, Power Blend Gold and Husqvarna XP oil. Stihl does not make an FD oil. Always look for the FD logo on the two cycle oil you use. It is the best two cycle oil specification.

I have a lot of the same clone saws as you, my g466 tops my 660 as it does everything I would do with the 660 but with less weight.

I like the husky chains to but I’ve bought 5 of them I got a deal on line so I ll see how good they are.

Hello from Dryden, there’s a fun ice cream spot in town based off that old rail line. Hope you’re doing well!

Yeah man… depending upon your use… those little 5800 johncutter saw’s are very impressive for the price! Your cyclops has been around the world for sure… I just love that if you are 1/2 way mechanical that you can cut a ton of wood for less investment then your OEM choices… the 395 with a 2100 crank as a stoker is one awesome project!!! And there’s not a lot of those floating around…gotta be a saw nut to go those trenching them case’s! LMFFAO!

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You are spot on with the chain discussion. The part that is bothersome is: A friend recommends a great restaurant their is alot of great reviews so you and the wife go and eat there. On this night the service was terrible, it took an hour to get cold food. Your quote unquote "experience" was bad, nevermind the circumstances that occured with the restuarant staff that caused 50 people to have a bad "experience" that night even though thousands before and after had a fantastic "experience" you now tell everyone the restaurant is bad based on that one night. I have used the Husqvarna C-83 chain in every type of cutting situation in all types of wood for going on 5 years now, in that time I have gone through close to 200 loops and given several to others to try. Out of all those loops I have had 4 loops that did not cut well out of the box and 1 that the cutters were work hardened to the point they could only be sharpened with a grinder. I have experienced the same thing with several brands of chains, some real bad. From my "Experience" (if I may qualify it as such ;) I find 2 issues for me with the C-83 & C-85: 1: the stock profile cuts very well, it's smooth, holds a sharp edge very well, but is hard for alot of folks to maintain the profile so they just round file it modifying it from what the factory intended, it may then cut faster in the cross cut but will fall behind in all other felling cuts. 2. It is not yet available in full skip. I sharpen chains sometimes everyday 7 days a week. Having to sharpen 1/2 as many cutters Far outways any percieved gains of full sequence chain. All this being said the C-83 is not my go to chain. I run the absolute worst cutting out of the box chain I have ever bought in full skip. Dare I say many folks would have a bad experience with this chain. I square file it (taking the gullet out, sharpening it to promote chip flow, call it chip shute, chip dump whatever I sharpen the whole tooth! So that it cuts the best in all situations. It has proven to be the longest lasting (4x any oregon chain I have used in the past 32 years, so that = 4x less sharpening 4x less purchasing of chain and more timber on the ground between sharpening $$$$ if I do my part in staying out of the dirt. It works very well in all cutting situations. I will continue to try new chains as they come available always looking to improve. Dare I say as someone who has spent a considerable part of my life working with saw chains every day I find the opinions based on very limited experiences branded as "experience" to be annoying! Keep an open mind and try that restaurant again so that your experience/opinion, comes from a more expert view. Sorry to rant on your channel Walt but I get the sense you may be the only one looking at this topic through a broader lense that will ultimately serve many more folks better. We must continue to ask ourselves who are we serving with our content and comments? Are we serving them well? Maybe other folks just like sharpening chain more than I do and I am misinterpreting their intentions. Thank you for sharing your experience on the aftermarket saws from that same lense.

Walt, what kind of camper is that behind the shop window and is it a “good” example of it in your mind?

Best has to be the 660 or the 038/380 probably the 660 as all the development that has gone into it over the years

Put a meteor piston and a $30.00 ignition coil three pull saw

Hey big guy, I recently started a nice chainsaw collection, started this summer. I'm doing well with acquiring saws and rebuilding, fixing, and now modifying them thanks to you, Harvey, and Tinman . I have a 70e without the rear top handle with the throttle assembly with it. I was wondering if you possibly could help me out with the handle and I'll buy it or we could swap some parts !? If you're interested in trading or selling the piece I am looking for. I will definitely be taking great care of you for your time help and of course your time...

It's not practical at all! I'm a fire wood guy, but I own 16 saws. I built a 372 clone because it was fun, and used a Hutzl set of cases to rebuild a 2163 that had a broken case. Its about having fun and getting a bit of work done too. One thing for sure, a guy better have a bit of mechanical skills to live with a Chinese saw. Hard to beat OEM reliability if you can only have one saw.

Will the G372xp saws hold up if your not increasing the compression? I am a landowner and have a bandsaw mill. I heat with wood and my G372xp has been good thus far. I Have the itch to go another direction but not sure where to go yet. Thanks for your videos!

So if I was looking at a G660 or a 395xp for tree care use...which would ypu recommend given your experience

I have just purchased a 660kit. What woulg you recommend to make it bulletproof. If you have the time to point me in the correct direction i would appreciate it.

Do u build saws for people u look like upstate ny

Its too bad and a little surprising that the G372 series always had problems. For such a popular model of saw you would think farmertec would invest in improving the manufacturing process so they can actually be a source for good quality AM parts, they would be able to move product volume. Quality is a overall concept, its not just one part its the whole system and in that regard the farmertec saws have always been "poor quality".