@@KaTeX-IL borin? Dude, leg day give you big bust to your strength. Love it at least for that. For me always a pleasure to train. Because it gives me the strength to live
@@hyperlemongt4890 I think I can do it, if I can figure out what exactly to do, I can bang out nice dragon flags but I just can't do a good front lever.
@@missano3856 Front lever is arguably more about the scapula than the abs, although abs do play a big role (at least in my experience so far with the skill)
@@busteronlyfullscreenmode yes, it would be surely the scapulas if someone did that with a little bit of retraction.. No one does do, man.. We take the lever to be held by shoulder, abs and lats, mainly
At last someone did a video with gymnastic difficulty and comparing thesr beautiful skills... Not like other saying planch is the hardest and all meh.. Great work bro and very informative
ground0 streetkid yes, I also think that these are very informative words, but... he’s mentioning skills like, Carmona, Balandin, Azarian and etc, but these are not single skills, these are combos. For example, Zanetti isn’t a skill only, it evolves more than one element. This is the only thing that didn’t made me feel comfortable
I agree to an extent, but an azarian is a single skill. It’s a backward roll to cross. At no point are you stopping in another position. That’s like saying a muscle up is 2 skills because of the pull up and the dip. Stringing the movements together fluidly creates its own skill.
Btw, "medium" skills that we consider as hard (front lever/back lever etc etc), has to be done ON RINGS, which is MUCH harder than on a straight bar So basically, when you're pro at street workout, do the same on rings, then you can consider yourself as a "medium" ring gymnast :D
Once a 17 year old told me that his father could hold a planche for 5minutes and he's the country's best calisthenics athlete. He also said that he is much weaker and can only hold it for a minute. When I asked if he could do a 3 seconds hold without a warm-up just to let me see how it's done he said he's ill.
after starting calisthenics 3 months ago from being overweight and managing to hold L-sit for 5+ seconds i have truly begun to appreciate gymnastics alot. Some of those moves seem like pure magic.
Great video and analysis of individual factors. Tendon insertion length is another thing that affects the difficulty, and makes people more suited for some movements than others. Some moves that haven't been unlocked (for now) despite the attempts of some of the strongest humans ever are the inverted butterfly mount (straight arm raise from inverted hang to ring handstand), inverted Zanetti (straight arm raise from front lever to ring reverse planche, the latter position is also something not yet achieved), freestanding one arm handstand pushup, slow one arm muscle up, inverted one arm muscle up, one arm hefesto (still amazing that Matteo Spinazzola has unlocked it with grip support), one arm press from support to handstand with a straight body (support to one arm planche has been done by Ziolus, but not the entire movement), decline one leg Nordic curl, inverted one leg Nordic curl, full range one leg sissy squat, elevated one leg Matrix squat.
The first thing that came to mind was the reverse planche, its basically a even harder variation of the front lever and Victorian cross and nobody has done it with full retraction yet.
It depends on what you'd call a "full retraction" if you are talking of a completely retracted scapula, that's impossible, not even victorian cross has been done with full retraction
Genetics play a big role. I was able to get my cycling FTP up to 300 in 2 months having never dedicated myself to the sport, but I have to work twice as hard and even more consistently to do 10 pull ups and my natural flexibility is a cruel joke.
Chen Yibing should be mentioned for his incredible stability. Yuri is questionabley pound for pound the strongest. His Maltese to back lever then press to planche is so effortless it’s wow level of strength. Hannibal probably could have held a Victorian cross if he had worked on it. He was close it was just on bars not rings (trust me I understand there’s a big diffference)
Ok, a couple of notes (enjoyed the vid, just trying to make it as precise as possible, as I feel like I have a decent knowledge of these, since, being a ringsman, can perform some of them either with strap assistance or with a resistance band) 1. Victorian and Rodriguez are not the same thing: victorian is the E-valued hold itself, Rodriguez is an uprise into victorian (F-value) 2. Ali Zahran (an egypitian ringsman) definitely has a similar victorian level to Rodriguez, maybe even better imho 3. About the F values on rings (from easier to hardest) PRESSING: azarian maltese, zanetti, carmona (carmona being harder than zanetti since it basically is a combination of the zanetti itself+ a press from maltese/planche ish to invert (either E or D valued) PULLING: zahran (nakayama victorian), tulloch 1 (azarian victorian), tulloch 2 which you didnt include (butterfly mount to victorian), here the order is based just on the way most people would order Nakayama, Azarian cross and butterfly cross, since all 3 end in a victorian anyway "MIX": balandin invert, hard to classify, id say its the second easiest after azarian maltese
@@fernando3255 very late on this, but if you see this, check out zeblackturboofficial on IG, he can do it (naturally not perfect form, but pretty damn good)
Handstand pushup on rings from your arms at your side going through iron cross I have never seen this skill done The closest thing I have seen to it was some old footage of a controlled negative
You uploaded your video right after I finished my study in all of your videos. Thank you Dave for your eye opening work and keep it up mate! Best regards from Greece.
Horizontal pulling-Victorian cross Vertical Pulling/pushing-Iron cross Overhead pushing-Inverted cross Horizontal pushing-Maltese and dead planche Horizontal pushing/pulling-Reverse Planche For the rarity of the skill I think the Victorian cross and the reverse planche is the most hardest.But the reverse planche is the boss because no one have ever perfected it
Reverse Zanetti with 1-2s Pauses at each element. Front lever - Victorian Cross - Reverse Planche, that would be a ridiculous strength level, especially proper full reverse Planche on rings pressing from Victorian
A couple of days ago the movement that now gas the name of his owner, was performed for the first time ever: the Caruso, invented and performed by Manuel Caruso Is a front lever to Victorian cross with a straight arms transition, It could be the hardest existing pull element
Reverse planche is actually the hardest static skill. When it comes to strenght elements with movement in my opinion the winner here is press from front lever to victorian on rings.
@@XxOffTonexX dumb thinking. It's not analogical to planche and maltese. The more you pull your arms behind your back, the less pulling strenght potential you have
@@XxOffTonexX it doesn't matter if victorian is a pressing element because it engages similar muscles as for example front lever but in different degree. And i'm gonna repeat: situation with maltese and planche isn't analogical to victorian and reverse planche
@@XxOffTonexX Yeah maybe. The only way to confirm this is to ask someone who can do a perfect Victorian cross and a perfect reverse planche. Which we might happen in future. 😅
Thank you. It was NOT important to identify which was the "most difficult" skill in calisthenics. It was more interesting and rewarding to be introduced to some of the intricacies and provided with background/history on all the high-level difficulty calisthenics. As a normal person may I humbly warn mere normal mortals; watch, learn & appreciate. These skills/moves identified in this video require training/skill/dedication that a normal person will find very ( almost too difficult) to achieve. If you try these moves without sufficient training, preparation & skill ... you will INJURE yourself. I stand respectfully and salute all these world class athletes from my level/position ( 8 pushups & 4 pull ups)
Freestanding handstand pushup isn't even worth a mention on a video like this lol. Unless you mean with the clap as well? Any calisthenic athlete that started with a lighter body can get the handstand pushup in their first year pretty much guaranteed if they work for it properly. It's not advanced at all.
@@Tokinjester I can if you want dude lmao. My instagram is shawn_inverted if you wanna scope it. I have multiple videos doing handstand pushups freestanding. Its rare you find a calisthenic athlete that can't do a freestanding handstand pushup. I'm not being a troll, that's a common skill in calisthenics. If you meant freestanding one armed handstand pushup I agree with you. But you just said handstand pushup which myself and most others seriously into calisthenics can do
They added a new hardest skill name IL CARUSO. It was name after an elite street workout athelete Manuel Caruso who was the first person to execute it. Basically, the skill is just a front lever and pull yourself up to a victorian cross with straight arms. It's like zenetti but inverted.
Overall I think my favourite skill is the manna to handstand. Not a super difficult skill such as the victorian, but still requires a fair amount of mobility to be performed.
my idea is 1) get a closed list of well known candidates calisthenics moves (handstand, planche, one-arm muscle up, l-sit, v-sit...etc), 2) get a list of well known expert calisthenics practitioners (TrainingPal, FitnessFAQs, Simonster, Austin Dunham, CalisthenicMovement, SaturnoMovement, DominikSky,...etc), 3) ask them to rank the list of moves in order of OVERALL (strength, flexibility, coordination, and fear all taken in consideration) difficulty according to their experience and if possible to pinpoint why was so difficult, 4) analyze and present the results
Id say most beautiful and hardest calisthenics skill is Dmitry Kuznetsov doing one arm stand to one arm planche back to one arm stand perfectly on 74kg weight.
Those guys doing the Victorian cross on RU-vid shown in the video aren’t actually doing even half of the motion. Not to take away from their work, they clearly are insanely strong but the way they hold the rings, and have their arms halfway through makes the skill 2 times easier. But actually doing it with correct form is something only a few people on the world can do as it’s basically inhuman at that point.
I question the utility of noting genetic "freaks" when we can barely distinguish between nature and nurture. TrainingPal didn't bother to see if their training routines DO differ significantly; instead, he attributed differences to a factor out of people's direct control (for the time being). Let's not give fuel to the already rampant give-up-before-you-start mentality when we could instead isolate to see which variables produce which results.
