TBP has it, I use it, it's really not bad at all. In fact, it's a bit more responsive because there's a lot less running in the background. 5% increase in FPS in a few games so far, not bad not bad.. Turn off the spectre and meltdown fixes and you will push that to 8 or 9%. As for CPU support, LTSC does indeed get intermittent updates that provision for newer CPUs. It just won't have feature updates (bug fixes and under the hood work have the potential to break functionality in certain applications, especially true for Faronics Deep Freeze which will BSOD sometimes anytime a 6month update of regular Win10 is released).
@@Xeno_Bardock I bet you're that guy that uses Ubuntu and Chrome, calls Microsoft a spyware company while browsing on RU-vid, Twitter, Reddit or Facebook and listening to a podcast on your Android/iOS smartphone
I use LTSC as my daily driver OS. Have been since January. No complaints at all. No bloatware, significantly more stability compared to Pro, and faster overall (even with an HDD). Also, the reason I upgraded was because my hardware didn't work on 7 that works fine on LTSC. Don't believe Microsoft. They say it's not a good version because they don't want you to install it (ie it's good)
I've used it. It's the only version of Windows 10 I would use. Now imagine this : An air traffic controller's computer : "Restarting in 15 minutes to install updates".
@@e14ee Actualy! I cant use linux becaause of office 365 and some adobe products, now I can use my PC like a LTS distro or W7. I think W7 is too old for certain work.
@@darulkhair701 Where you get that info? I can certainly attest that is not the case. I'm running 1080ti driver v 430.39 on LTSC. My games are as smooth as butter
@@darthslackus499 from reddit and I test it myself with my laptop. the nvidia driver seems not fully working. can you check dxdiag? I check it and it didn't enabled my Direct 3D acceleration.
@@darulkhair7013D acceleration not enabled? Sounds like you are not utilizing the nvdia...do you know how to switch between integrated vs discreet graphics on a laptop?
Typing this on ltsc right now. Best Windows 10 version out there. The only reason MS don't want you to install it is they won't be able to show you ads or track you as much. Anyone who values their privacy or overall system stability and performance should be using it.
Linux is better than even Windows LTSC for this purpose, but if you absolutely need to use a Windows only app, it is still better than Windows 10 Bloat Edition.
Windows 10 LTSC is the best WIndows version to date. Zero bloatware, no werid shit, no Xbox crap, takes like 30% of the space of the regular Windows installations, consumes about 30% less ram, and guess what? All of your settings, configs, etc. are left intact and do not change over each Windows update. LTSC is what Windows should have been.
I've been using ltsb since it came out, primarily from gaming. It's the best gaming OS and I still haven't had a compatibility issue. Newest GPU drivers work on it and I've recently upgraded to ryzen 3700x. If there's anything that stops working on it, it's because Microsoft wanted it to stop working, not because there's an actual compatibility issues. Similarly to how they destroyed Windows 7.
I'm using Win 10 LTSC for 3 years now (WinVer 1809 as we speak) and I have to say that LTSC is by trillion miles the best Win10. No cortana, a lot less bloatware BS that you find even in the Enterprise version, a lot let MS Spyware, less background processes running and as a result of all that LTSC are lightning fast and super stable. I havent faced any problems whatsoever with devices or software or games compatibilities. If you get the chance to get a copy of LTSC, do it, you wont regret it. MS should get their head off their head out of their dumb-ass and make all windows like this. Light, fast and have all these bloatware BS (including Cortana) optional.
I use Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021 and it works even better than Windows 7 & 8.1 ever did on my pc. idk why Microsoft doesn't make a Windows 10 Pro LTSC version.
Windows is "linuxized" more and more, apart from the versioning names witch went 18.09>19.03>19.09>20.03 etc, now they are going for the classic Ubuntu LTS theme. It's a very nice move in my opinion. Well done Microsoft!
Sorry Joe, but you are just repeating MS talking points, if you really test this version, it works with the Adobe Suite, Office 365, Visual Studio 2019, and all the games in steam (the ones I own) and it really supports "new silicone". Usually the drivers are developed by the manufacturers (e.g. NVidia, AMD), and I never seen one of those drivers getting any error. The only thing that I was unable to make work, was WSL2 (WSL1 works fine). To clarify, I'm using 2019 LTSC.
• Next month they're renaming it to "Windows™ (10) LTSBC gen 2x2.0.1" • So… LTSC lets you avoid Windows Updates? 🤨 Hmm, if you want Windows 7 updates next year, you have to pay, if you want to avoid Windows 10 updates, you have to pay. Microsoft is covering all bases. ¬_¬ • Navy submarines using Windows 10. 🤔 Cannot abort missile-launch, Windows has crashed… and needs to update. 🤦
LTSC and LTSB does got security updates to my knowing. However those do not get feauture updates, like the 1803, 1809 and the upcoming 1903 update, which add features but also tends to break things, and things like ATM machines doesn't really need that new Acrylic design Settings Menu, do they?
@@blitheixgaming1289 As far as I can tell a Windows 10 Enterprise license or the super expensive MSDN subscription is the only way to get Windows 10 LTSC legitimately, though it is possible to pirate it.
If you want to delay (or disable) Windows updates on the home edition you can use very simple trick to mark your connection (WiFi & Ethernet) as metered connection and change in Windows Update settings to not download updates over metered connection. Works great and Windows is not forcing any of the updates until I want to
Hi Thio, Thanks for making this video, it was really awaited. I work for a company and we heavily use LTSC in production environment. This video is useful. Keep making good stuff.
@@ictoan5966 Linux has a better design, has a better security, too. Good design and good security. And still I don't have it installed. What a fool am I
@Mr. Sem Nome Used to. Doesn't anymore. Just wait for Wayland to fully release and fully support X11 (which *will* happen, as X11 developers are working on it as well)
Used to be IT for a Private Academy (grades pre-K to 12) & their security system was extremely high tech. Had Mag Locks(took 1000lbs to break lock, instead of normal 350-800lbs), infrared cameras, motion detectors, PIR for egress doors, electronic crash bars for egress, card readers at every entry/exit(used keyfobs or tags to allow movement & tracking throughout buildings), cctv, & the list goes on. The funny thing about all this high tech gear & system.....ran on legacy hardware/software with a PC running Windows 2000 & the server running Windows Server 2003 R2... Kinda crazy. Don’t work with them anymore, but as of 2015 Extended support for this version of Windows server ended; & have know idea what they did, hopefully upgraded & are not continuing running MS Windows Server 2003.....but many organizations in today’s world usually don’t upgrade tech when supposed to(yes it’s a pain, but rather update things then suffer consequences). Cheers✌🏻
We use it in production (Stainless steel factory), where the process is the same every day so if it works do not fix it so production isn't halted because of updates (You do not want a vat of molten steel to cool because your PC has to restart)
I prefer Windows over Linux. I don't want to be forced to compile a program everytime I want to install something like a media player or something like quicktime. Linux has proven to be difficult to learn. Windows is easy peazy. Point, click, install, let microsoft look through your hard drive for your latest downloads from brazzers without your consent and done.
In the past, OS/2 used to be the operating system of choice where stability was paramount, in applications such as lab equipment. By the way, the last Windows 10 security update caused my PC to get stuck when it restarted, so I had to cycle the power twice to get the machine to finish booting :P
It is basically the best version of Windows 10 you can get. Don't listen to Microsoft that it isn't good, they don't want you to use it, because they make extra money from collecting all the data and all the preinstalled bloatware. It is bloatware free, it doesn't have Cortana, you can turn off every data collecting/tracking service and it doesn't update on its own! It runs more stable and faster.
Do not agree with this, have been using it on my workstation for about year or so and has been performing perfectly. In the meantime my wife had two semi-annual updates on her personal laptop, broke it both times to a point that I had to re-install Windows from scratch. For anyone who does not need Microsoft Store, Edge, Cortana and similar bloatware I highly recommend this version of Windows (but only if you know what you are doing).
I have it in my computers, runs great. I can care less about new features. I'm a Graphic Designer so I need to jump right onto my apps. Windows features is not something I want and need.
I have installed Win 10 LTSC 2019 v1809 on every computer at our office after the debacle with consumer Win 10 (Pro version) which was shipped with it on our systems, random hickups, errors, freezes, and even BSODs after finishing updates on the previous OS but since reinstalling the machines with Win 10 LTSC 2019 v1809, there hasn't been a single error, hickup, freeze or even BSOD on these machines. Superstable, responsive and light on the machines. Turned off all the known telemetry during install and disabling Windows update through services.msc. We do a full update once a year at the last month when the employees are on holiday so no obstruction during workhours/workdays, Windows Defender updates we run during the weekends outside workhours.. All've been running so for almost 4 years. Rockstable and very responsive OS 👍
Just a heads up, Microsoft knew people switched over so now they added Xbox and people features and bloatware to LTSC. You would have to debloat it using special software.
I've been using win10 LTSB for two and a half years and I'm telling you that thing is the most robust OS I've ever have installed to date. Super fast, super stable and amazingly reliable. TBH it's one of the least annoying MS code out there. Just sayin' son...
I've been using LTSC on my GPD win for a few months and haven't had any issues. imo if microsoft made a "windows 10 pro LTSC" then i could imagine it being more popular than normal win10
Yep, the company I work for uses win10 2016 LTSB on our payment machines and workstations. It’s a pretty solid version. Lightweight. No bloat. I have never tried it out on productivity machines though 🧐🤔
This video could have been a tenth of the length that it is. Like in High School when you needed to write a 10 page essay and you only had 5 pages, then you would just double space it.
"It's not going to support new hardware and silicon". Absolute, Definitively, Incorrect. In Education we used LTSB exclusively (now LTSC), our 2016 LTSB still works absolutely 100% on brand new motherboard, cpus, graphics cards. While it blocks feature updates, you still get all the standard windows update, (patch tuesday is still a thing) automatic detection of hardware, driver updates, latest plug and play etc. Now i'm still not saying the general public should go and pick this up, there were feature updates that heavily impacted gaming over the last 3 years. If you were still running the LTSB product you would be missing out for sure.
I know someone who has used LTSC for many years, and just got a new laptop with PRO installed, the PRO version crashed 3 times within the first 2 days. The guy I know thought that Windows LTSC was almost like all other win version, but he was very suprised as he only used LTSC. They person I know doesnt use new PC's so LTSC is perfect. I do not agree completely with this video, as LTSC seems to work just fine, doesnt seem to have no problems what so ever, also for everyday use. For a music producer the LTSC seems to be THE solution!
damn, that a 2 minute long talking about "LTSC you cant use, no you cant use that, no no no...", while its actually a lot better version of Windows 10, yeah sure it may not support schedulers for newer processors ending up loosing upto 25% performance, but hey it still works, it works a lot better actually than a latest Home/Pro build of windows 10. so do I recommend windows 10 LTSC? heck yeah.... if it means that you pirate it because you cant get a copy of it, go ahead. because this should be the version of windows that all of us should be using in the first place.
This is the best version of Windows 10 and it's a shame that Microsoft don't offer it legally to the general public because it doesn't have any of that bloatware crap and unstable updates that the normal Windows 10 has...
I've got an ms Windows tablet (originally with 8.1) I tried several versions of Windows 10 (even though I think 8.1 was much snappier there) and I was looking for lightweight ones I found LTSC which I had no idea what it is.. so I downloaded it thinking its some lightweight one installed it on my tablet (Z3735F) and it ran good I was wondering what does the LTSC stand for I thought its some makeshift lightweight version due to the bloatware and some functions missing (ie power settings don't include CPU utilization settings). I was also about to look for a way to permanently block off Windows updates but I thought hmm lets look and see what LTSC actually is so you basically saved me a bunch of time! Thanks
Sorry Thio, every reason you stated for why you don't want LTSC is incorrect, hardware is supported and it doesn't have all the junk on it that nobody wanted in the first place. NOBODY USES OR WANTS CORTANA
I love how back in 2019 it was kinda pointless to want LTSC because all it did was prevent feature updates. Now I'm looking into it in 2022 to prolong the life of my ThinkPad X230 that runs really well under Windows 10 Pro, but I don't want to give it up in 3 years. If I can get a support channel that gives me 7 more years (1909 LTSC) then I'll take it!
I have used Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB like just 1 month ago. I actually got the pirated version on DVD from Bangladesh. It is a Windows 10 DVD pack that includes all versions of Windows 10 in 1 DVD. Unfortunately it is not quite true that there is no Cortana. Yes there isn't, but in a way there is, the SearchUI.exe is still there and sucks memory as well as using Network data. When it goes to Suspended the RAM wasn't being released down to 0 K. It was still staying at 30MB in Task Manager. The same went with ShellExperienceHost.exe not going to 0 K. There was also an issue with System / System Idle Process Memory leak where after gaming the system RAM would completely jump to like 200 MB RAM or so. Normally this part should remain at 20 K 8 K and must not budge but that wasn't happening. There were also huge bugs like if you were to disable Action Center it will still warn you with a balloon message that you must turn it on at every windows startup. There were also a variety of other error messages in the Windows Event Log that were unfixable. After gaming the Full Screen in Chrome was messed up running in bordered. I tried searching for a Windows 10 LTSB update but it couldn't find latest updates. I don't know if this 2015 version was upgrade-able. But anyway, I gave up and subsequently reformatted and decided to go to Windows 10 Home and then reformatted again to go for the Pro edition because I wanted group policy editor. The RAM consumption was also very similar at 1.1 GB 14% used out of the 8GB RAM. However, one thing interesting to note is that when I completely renamed the Microsoft.Windows.Cortana_cw5n1h2txyewy to disable SearchUI.exe then RAM dropped to 720 MB 9% exactly like how Windows 8.1 was consuming. Unfortunately this disables windows search and causes loads of errors in event log. So yes, Cortana is not there. But that bloody folder Microsoft.Windows.Cortana_cw5n1h2txyewy is still in the LTSB/C versions of Windows 10. So I'm not really seeing any benefits of this version of Windows. Unless someone with a 2016+ version can let me know if any of these issues have been resolved.
I'm on LTSC 1809 (2019) on my PC since its out, thanks r/piracy. Before I built the PC, my laptop was on LTSB 1607, but my CPU on the PC isn't officially( the cpu is newer than LTSB) supported on LTSC, although people reported working, I didn't want to risk so I went with LTSC and no problems since then.
So basically this sounds perfect for my mom who barely uses her computer, but calls me in a panic when things change on her or when the system forces her to update it
i just love watching these types of videos at 1 AM when i should be getting sleep. someone please yeet my laptop away i want to sleep but i'm too deep into the internet.
Great stuff buddy I'm glad you're keeping up on all this cuz it's way too much for me to keep up on. But you do a wonderful job of keeping me informed thank you.
i thought the whole idea about LTSC = "i don't want all the Features, get lost with your bloatware garbage and give me an decent OS" WHAT 1200 DOLLARS??? for something that should be our OS instead of the Facebook OS???? WTF
The best Windows version I had after 7. Absolute no bloated craps, few simple accessories preinstalled and extended software support with security pathes and vulnerabilities. My CPU is less stressed than before and just a perfect dressing on modern hardwares. Chromium Edge can be purged easily. Just to make sure you don't sign up local account with outlook or the whole point of have LTSC becomes pointless.
Also, those are normally a stripped down version of windows since those machines don't really need the full functionality of windows. Like an atm machine only needs a certain amount of functions to perform transactions and stuff. So, slapping that version of windows on your personal machine is actually useless and counterproductive.
ever since it's released and have it deployed on my daily driver laptop, i never need to worry about sudden major changes on my windows experience, except that it's still patched for security updates, which is all that i need. this then combined with office LTSC, it's almost like being in Windows 7.
