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What is Your Musical IQ? 

Adam Neely
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I take a musical IQ test designed by a cognitive research team at Harvard! An IQ test that, perhaps not surprisingly, is quite Eurocentric in its conception of musical intelligence.
Take the Musical IQ test yourself!
www.themusiclab.org/quizzes/miq
Cross-Cultural Studies of Musical Pitch Perception/ Curr. Biol., Sept. 19, 2019 (Vol. 29, Issue 19)
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Cross-cultural studies of musical pitch and time
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The primal role of the vestibular system in determining musical rhythm
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JUARA 1 KENDANG SMP : Agus Herry ( SMPN 1 DPS ) PSR 2019 Denpasar [JAVENSE GAMELAN MUSIC]
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Комментарии : 5 тыс.   
@newweirdos
@newweirdos 4 года назад
"You're singing out of tune" Me: "You just can't handle my spiciness"
@mrharvest
@mrharvest 4 года назад
For real real though. Check out this Annette Peacock track: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-khdOMSmuFSo.html
@IceColdKoolaid
@IceColdKoolaid 4 года назад
I usually just say I'm singing microtones 💁
@ilikefoodcrazy
@ilikefoodcrazy 4 года назад
Do you like jazz?
4 года назад
HAHAHAHAH :P
@proximityclockworkx1572
@proximityclockworkx1572 4 года назад
p r e t e n d i t s j a z z or r e p e t i t i o n l e g i t i m i z e s Alternatively, you can just turn into a banana, if neither of them works.
@dangerics
@dangerics 2 года назад
I knew a guitarist in college who had “perfect pitch.” You could slam 6 or 8 random notes on the piano all at once and he’d name them all. Never missed. But then his guitar would be grossly out of tune and he couldn’t tell. I found that fascinating.
@TheFReeFRiesss
@TheFReeFRiesss 2 года назад
Learning how to play an untuned guitar is legendary tbh
@leestrz4153
@leestrz4153 2 года назад
I think it's because a guitarist can play whatever notes they need to even if the instrument is tuned differently right? So he can just find the right way to hold a string to get the right note. I have perfect color vision and I feel like I'm the opposite and when a monitor or screen is even the slightest bit off I can't help but try to fix it 😂
@andrewjustice210
@andrewjustice210 2 года назад
What if somebody hit 5-7-9 notes?
@johnbachner9901
@johnbachner9901 2 года назад
@@leestrz4153 if your playing even somewhat fast bending every note just perfect would be savant level shit. Maybe possible but not even remotely practical especially if done on the fly like someone would have to if theyre accidentally sharp/flat in 1 or more strings (edit) also you can only bend up on guitar so if you're flat you would have to readjust every fingering as well as bend which adds a whole other level of complexity
@st0rmbreaK
@st0rmbreaK 2 года назад
I can tell the notes on a violin and piano, but if you were to get someone to play an acoustic and/or classical guitar I have to really think to determine what was being played.
@curtislindsay7689
@curtislindsay7689 3 года назад
"We think this test might provide an indication of how well the participant could be expected to endure an evening of community musical theatre auditions."
@jennifer9047
@jennifer9047 3 года назад
😂
@sharonedigitale
@sharonedigitale 2 года назад
hahahha
@pierrebernard7665
@pierrebernard7665 3 года назад
"It's basically a fancy Buzzfeed article" SAVAGE ^^
@nicodenebo6027
@nicodenebo6027 4 года назад
the fact that u shared the link of the iq test broke their homepage .
@johncenaplayingstarcraft9580
@johncenaplayingstarcraft9580 4 года назад
@Turnips Harvard ain't know proper internet
@phantasos12
@phantasos12 4 года назад
@@johncenaplayingstarcraft9580 If they had known what they were looking for they would have seen it written on Adam Neely's window...I mean youtube channel
@arnodebruin4151
@arnodebruin4151 4 года назад
Yip
@edstervedster
@edstervedster 4 года назад
I got most of the way through before it said 'too many users' and kicked me off...
@sucail128
@sucail128 4 года назад
i was halfway through the test when it went down and kicked me out :/
@moominfin
@moominfin 4 года назад
"Fancy buzzfeed article" I think that about sums it up.
@Mezurashii5
@Mezurashii5 4 года назад
Welcome to 90% all humanistic sciences
@keinname1896
@keinname1896 4 года назад
@@Mezurashii5 Ohhh boy, that's so wrong it hurts. Especially since the framework that they used is an systematical empirical one. Their method is stem-scientific so to speak (which is the completely wrong framework for doing something like this (I mean, there is not a great way to do something like this at all, because the idea is just stupid, but anyway)).
@soggyman3852
@soggyman3852 4 года назад
I got a 9 incher
@argenteus8314
@argenteus8314 4 года назад
To be fair, this is a flaw shared by the actual IQ test as well. IQ tests, whether musical or otherwise, don't effectively test your intelligence, they test your skill at taking IQ tests.
@treeoflife7151
@treeoflife7151 4 года назад
haha. he also hit the nail on the head like this when describing Whiplash as a "sports movie" :)
@binary_terror2
@binary_terror2 3 года назад
They definitely used "out of tune" to mean "dissonant" and that really gets on my nerves. Dissonant and out of tune aren't the same and they get conflated so often.
@keyboard_toucher
@keyboard_toucher 3 года назад
no they didn't
@coryrad9575
@coryrad9575 3 года назад
@@keyboard_toucher Yes they did. I never saw the score sheet so I can assume the possibility of purposeful dissonance of written half-step chords and 1/4 tones. "In-tune" is a relative term. If I'm tuned to a Dm chord and you are tuned to Em11 who is "out of tune " ?
@saxojon
@saxojon 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure that this wording was used so that the average person would understand what to do even though it might technically be a sloppy way of putting it.
@pmangano
@pmangano 3 года назад
@@coryrad9575 i dont think so, some of them sounded microtonal.
@lettersquash
@lettersquash 3 года назад
@@coryrad9575 I also disagree with you, sorry. Allowing for any and every possible chord, and even for sliding up to notes, etc., there was another test about whether the singer placed the note more "in tune" (as Adam said, in 12-note equal temperament". The actual music played and sung in each exampe was the same notationally, so chords didn't come into it. Nobody sang so far off that they clearly intended to mess with the harmonies for dissonant interest. Some clearly couldn't sing in tune; others I suspect were deliberately singing slightly off for the test.
@adriepram
@adriepram 3 года назад
Hello Adam, sorry a little bit correction there: 5:44 is actually Balinese gamelan, they are usually played more 'fiery' than their Javanese counterpart. But from all types of gamelans that I know (Javanese, Balinese and Sundanese) they each do have their own tuning system (and scales) that don't quite match western's 12 tones system. But there do exist gamelan sets that especially made and tuned to match western's 12 (ie. to play with orchestra/band etc). *Source: me native Indonesian 😁
@wawancoret5877
@wawancoret5877 Год назад
i agree with u
@bean3702
@bean3702 4 года назад
Bruh the fact that I got a similar score to the Adam Neely tells me this doesn’t measure musical intelligence LOL
@Liggliluff
@Liggliluff 4 года назад
I blame that on his score was based on an average of a few skillful users has taken it, making the average being highly skilled, decreasing his value. Now a lot of average fans of him has taken the test, and decreased the skill value of the average, and therefore increased the score Adam has. ... or maybe not. The test isn't really that good.
@neeltheother2342
@neeltheother2342 4 года назад
same here
@JorgeOlmosMusic
@JorgeOlmosMusic 4 года назад
Do you play an instrument? If not, maybe now's the time. 😎 I got the same score as Adam, too, but I play an instrument (20 years of piano), so I was hoping my score would be similar, though his music theory knowledge surpasses mine by far.
@bean3702
@bean3702 4 года назад
JorgeOlmosMusic I do! I play violin and study music theory in high school
@pianovz228
@pianovz228 4 года назад
yeah i got 114, I'm 12
@BBarNavi
@BBarNavi 4 года назад
Broke: Beats on 1 and 3 Woke: Those notes aren't "off", they're "spicy"
@david2618
@david2618 4 года назад
Very true, offbeats are very common and cool.
@davidcottrell1308
@davidcottrell1308 4 года назад
@@david2618 they were on 2 and 4.
@david2618
@david2618 4 года назад
@@davidcottrell1308 I wasn't the one who mentioned which were offbeat, it was BARRR
@GoLDnTRiXX
@GoLDnTRiXX 4 года назад
@@davidcottrell1308 I think so too. But I admit it feels strange with this short snippet
@StormKillzone
@StormKillzone 4 года назад
Plenty of perceived offbeats in prog music used nowadays that actually create a synchronized whole. I think there are plenty of beats and melodies in this test that could be used in prog music or avant garde stuff just fine.
@musamusashi
@musamusashi 2 года назад
When at 13 i took a MENSA test and came out in the top group, i realized that those tests in no way can measure intelligence as a whole (whichever definition we may have for intelligence) but only a person's attitude toward a very specific mental process. The same apply here: i scored slightly better than Adam and yet he is much more solid than me in most aspects of musical knowledge and, what matters most, in performing ability. Taken for fun, there's no harm in such tests, but if we want to draw conclusive assessments on someone's intelligence or ability, those tests suck big time and are actually strongly discriminatory. No surprise that most people in key positions in nations that heavily rely on those tests, are often just educated fools.
@spracketskooch
@spracketskooch 2 года назад
Reminds me of a Mark Twain quote, "I never let schooling interfere with my education".
@2112jonr
@2112jonr 2 года назад
Mensa tests are a total farce. They measure how many times you've taken Mensa tests, as you get progressively better at remembering the same problems, shapes and sequences you've meant before. Mostly a 70s thing, highly discredited now, just like Myers Briggs "personality" tests - no scientific basis, easy to rig (I have, several times), and only HR fall for the marketing.
@user-uu5xf5xc2b
@user-uu5xf5xc2b Год назад
how can you determine intelligence with intelligence ? you can only understand who is less intelligent than you. that's why those tests suck but probably work for the majority
@skorp5677
@skorp5677 Год назад
Actually, professionally conducted IQ tests do measure the IQ pretty well. The mistake those "fools" make is to assume that things they are looking for is caused/more strongly correlated with the results of the test.
@skorp5677
@skorp5677 Год назад
@veevyo Because the made up number ist defined by the test :)
@fidrewe99
@fidrewe99 3 года назад
I can't believe this test comes from a university. The one who can tell whether random notes match a grid of pitch and beat perfectly and remember them like a machine has a high musical intelligence? What about feeling the music? What about knowing what to do in order to achieve a certain impact? What about being able to create and understand tension and release? What about creating elegant chord progressions? What about creating memorable and meaningful melodies? What about understanding relations between notes? etc etc
@HaiTran-bp5cv
@HaiTran-bp5cv Год назад
They think music is "sound" :). Typical "scientists" !
@EdwardsGrant
@EdwardsGrant Год назад
Adam Neely is a very charitable person and I appreciate his diplomacy. I thought the pitch test was B.S. and Adam was far too kind.
@mellot00th
@mellot00th Год назад
they repeatedly tell us that it is a mere hypotheses and they suspect it is inaccurate in actually evaluating musical skill so while all those etc.'s are entirely valid i dont think its fair to assume theyre enforcing the test as some ultimate standardized meter
@robertsmith262
@robertsmith262 Год назад
It’s just an ear test. Try not to over complicate it.
@San_Vito
@San_Vito Год назад
​@@mellot00th They literally say that they believe that this test could predict if someone is going to be good while playing an instrument or singing when they show you your scores. I'm not saying you're wrong, maybe in the more academic part where they describe this test in more depth they do say what you mentioned. But they's a clear contradiction in the stuff they tell and sometimes they do think this is solid.
@SilentWeeb
@SilentWeeb 4 года назад
Adam Neely: It's basically a fancy BuzzFeed article. Researchers: *sad husky noises*
@onesyphorus
@onesyphorus 4 года назад
*buzzfeed closing door sound effecT*
@haikal9329
@haikal9329 3 года назад
Why does this comment have 1.5 k likes and only 2 replies
@ditorres9884
@ditorres9884 3 года назад
I feel like this was a good test, tho. As a retired dancer, I knew my strenght was going to be Beat Alignment. It was my highest score, beating Adam by far. And I'm starting to enter the world of music producing, melody is being the most difficult part for me, and my score on Melodic Discrimination was abysmal, only 86. It trully reflected what I perceived of my music skills.
@bradenculver7457
@bradenculver7457 2 года назад
@@ditorres9884 I think the big issue he was raising was scope. It’s a good test in the scope of the music they were choosing, it’s just not all music applies to popular western systems. And the researchers were extrapolating proficiency with western musical tradition with overall musical intelligence, which isn’t the case.
@savourymilkman8147
@savourymilkman8147 2 года назад
@@haikal9329 man i hope theyre busy practicing!
@nahte-
@nahte- 4 года назад
*band playing a song . . .* *member 1:* hey bro you’re out of tune *adam:* [clears throat] um, i’m sorry but i believe you mean that he’s not locked to the grid of the very Euro-centric 12 tone equal temperament
@hedgehog_fox
@hedgehog_fox 4 года назад
Band playing a song ... Member 1:Hey bro you're off the beat. Adam: I don't want to get too philosophical,but what's a beat?
@klegdixal3529
@klegdixal3529 4 года назад
there's an old saying: Bjork doesn't sing out of tune. Bjork explores microtonality.
@HPD1171
@HPD1171 4 года назад
Orchestra playing out of tune Me: looks over at the viola section with look of disappointment Violist: what even is a key?
@frmcf
@frmcf 4 года назад
I’m saving these for next band practice
@owlofathena1247
@owlofathena1247 4 года назад
So basically complaining about being out of tune is racist
@MarttiSuomivuori
@MarttiSuomivuori 3 года назад
Each time I come back to see you, my respect increases. You actually have a lot to give. That's exceptional.
@davidjames1684
@davidjames1684 3 года назад
I ordered some curried chicken the other day while in India and the server asked me how I would like it prepared and I told her "extra out of tune please".
@DanielVCOliveira
@DanielVCOliveira 4 года назад
Test: *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* Fletcher: not quite my tempo
@maxmeszaros9527
@maxmeszaros9527 4 года назад
i said that going through the test lmao
@abcrx32j
@abcrx32j 4 года назад
*Throws the score to the screen*
@DasOmen02
@DasOmen02 4 года назад
"I just threw a chair at your monitor, computer."
@pollomagico271
@pollomagico271 4 года назад
LOL
@IOxyrinchus
@IOxyrinchus 4 года назад
*throws music stand at comments section*
@Pianistos
@Pianistos 4 года назад
I think this test is more relevant to sound/audio engineers rather than an average musician.
@gessie9747
@gessie9747 4 года назад
And even then only the unambitious ones.
@Morph-hf1hy
@Morph-hf1hy 4 года назад
Totally, listening to the band drift from the click track, auto tuning the vocal etc.
@hithere4289
@hithere4289 4 года назад
Not really! most skilled orchestra players can get a 100 on this
@maxwellmcquade9368
@maxwellmcquade9368 4 года назад
It's sounds to me like most you guys are just embarrassed
@johnathanstuart9022
@johnathanstuart9022 4 года назад
Semi agree. It would have been more for an engineer If they would have asked to guess which frequency is being lowered or risen in a mix, which track has reverb, or which track is compressed.
@pietro1801
@pietro1801 3 года назад
I'm very self-aware about my musical skills (since I started playing an instrument fairly late) and got super bummed out about my test results on this. Their "this might predict your ability to actually play an instrument!" sentence seems custom-tailored to kick me in the shins, too.
@aleksiaakko6830
@aleksiaakko6830 3 года назад
I wouldn't worry about it. The melody test is more of a memory test than a musical ability test and some of the tuning test entries sounded better in the mix with a bit of detuning. You'll be fine!
@Unborn-Lives-Matter
@Unborn-Lives-Matter 3 года назад
This test didn’t illustrate the ability to make or play music at all. You play music for enjoyment only. As you get better, you get more satisfaction. I don’t care if your playing “mary had a little lamb” or a Vivaldi piece. It about that inner joy. Don’t stop. I stopped for a year, after 48 years of playing, and my joy started to leave me. Don’t EVER let that happen. BTW: The only way I was able to pass this test is because of my long love affair with music. Started when I was about five. Love all kinds of music but rap music is an oxymoron.
@pietro1801
@pietro1801 3 года назад
@@Unborn-Lives-Matter Thanks for the kind words of encouragement, man. Sometimes it's all it's needed to keep someone going. Cheers!
@ashleigh1160
@ashleigh1160 3 года назад
Don’t let this test discourage you! In my Humble Violinist Opinion this was not a good test in the first place, but there’s a LOT more to bring a good musician than the three things they’re measuring here.
@user-wx8mi1pd6g
@user-wx8mi1pd6g 2 года назад
@@Unborn-Lives-Matter everything was going great and then you had to say that rap music is an oxymoron 😔
@nightlark
@nightlark 3 года назад
Sounds like another instance where scientists have attempted to quantify some skill without actually consulting people who have specific experience with the skill they're measuring... disappointing. Thank you for highlighting the Eurocentric nature of their approach and doing the work to find papers discussing the implications of this bias.
@manictiger
@manictiger 2 года назад
Plus, none of it translates to actually playing or mixing. It's so abstracted away from the point of music, that it no longer has to do with it at all. It's a logic test. Music is not about logic. It's about context. That's why some of the ugliest chords turn so beautiful in Jazz. They're given context and they're part of a bigger story.
@2112jonr
@2112jonr 2 года назад
Well said, spot on.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Год назад
@@manictiger yes! Almost all of the “wrong” ones sounded better to me, so I quickly switched from trying to listen to what works well and just started listening for what sounded boring.
@ivan_osorio
@ivan_osorio 4 года назад
"I don't want to knock on it too much." "BuzzFeed article."
@samuelthorn408
@samuelthorn408 4 года назад
That's not too much! It's just the truth!
@Pacvalham
@Pacvalham 4 года назад
"Fancy BuzzFeed article" shouldn't be knocking too much.
@ahmetdevrimguren4977
@ahmetdevrimguren4977 4 года назад
Test: PROTIP: Make sure the synth and the vocals are in the same key!!
@whatever6223
@whatever6223 4 года назад
I dumb. Can anyone explain this meme to me?
@lemon11227
@lemon11227 4 года назад
Whatever some guy left an angry comment on one of adam’s videos from like, a year ago, and adam responded in a later video, and the dude got memed
@yefremjr
@yefremjr 4 года назад
@@whatever6223 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JXfQsHT5c30.html around 11:30
@crystalmik8410
@crystalmik8410 4 года назад
@@whatever6223 For this meme, there might be two options that are similar. First option: It sometimes happens that after recording the synth has not the same tuning frequency as the vocals. (Adam has made a great video on tuning frequencies). So if you play them together, you will start noticing that something is weird about the music. That is, again, due to the fact that the synth is not in the same tuning as the vocals. For example, the synth can be tuned A=440 Hz and the guitar is tuned A=432 Hz. These 8Hz difference make a huge difference to the listener. It sounds off tuned. Second option: The synth player and the vocal singers are stupid and play in different keys (e.g. one plays in a minor and one plays in e minor). It can sometimes be wanted but that's due to art purposes. So the point of the joke is that people make those mistakes quite often and they are stupid. You're welcome :)
@yefremjr
@yefremjr 4 года назад
@@crystalmik8410 no dude, check out the video I linked. It's from a real youtube comment
@ZacharyTabick
@ZacharyTabick 2 года назад
Honestly appreciate, your appreciation for all music styles… When I got a chance to go to school for music… my friends from other cultures blew my mind. Still not the most top dollar musician, but I definitely think it’s in our diversity of music that we can find such great inspiration!
@jessicaramos8345
@jessicaramos8345 3 года назад
I stumbled upon this video just out of curiosity and procrastination. I subscribed out of pleasure to find such a versed, intellectual and cited music conversation. And the moment you questioned eurocentrism in the test, I rushed to press the subscribe button.
@SetyaPriatna
@SetyaPriatna 4 года назад
> Adam Neely: or even more far out like Javanese gamelan music? > *proceeds to show balinese gamelan.*
@andy88bali
@andy88bali 4 года назад
Yup!
@CaalamusTube
@CaalamusTube 4 года назад
I think he said Japanese! :P ...or best case scenario, pronounced Java like javelin.
@Edd030427
@Edd030427 4 года назад
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that heard Japanese!
@CaalamusTube
@CaalamusTube 4 года назад
@@Edd030427 :P
@eddyrashid7853
@eddyrashid7853 4 года назад
Balinese* lol
@robkorczak
@robkorczak 4 года назад
Title of video should be "Man on Internet Rages at Facebook Quiz."
@swngwyrdd3552
@swngwyrdd3552 3 года назад
"Which one is more out of tune?" They both suck but I'd rather hear the one that's sharp
@LawGPT
@LawGPT 3 года назад
I think your right in your assessment that the tone of the beep affects the timing perception because it creates an obvious dissonance, albeit not relating to the beat. It became easier once I consciously ignored the tone.
@Patricia_Taxxon
@Patricia_Taxxon 4 года назад
me: the concept of an absolute intelligence quotient in reference to any subject will inherently be biased to the culture that created it also me: heehee i got 116
@atomic5134
@atomic5134 4 года назад
-get rekt i got 119- i mean... uhhhhh what he said
@TheAndrewc5120
@TheAndrewc5120 4 года назад
@Anthony Lopez you should join musical mensa dude. do what all the normal mensa people do with their inflated sense of self. nothing.
@Patricia_Taxxon
@Patricia_Taxxon 4 года назад
can there not be ppl advocating for race realism in my notifications please? thank you
@onesyphorus
@onesyphorus 4 года назад
Hey I remember your channel lol. you kinda made mistakes too lol
@glumbortango7182
@glumbortango7182 4 года назад
@@Patricia_Taxxon big fan of your videos
@spike28
@spike28 4 года назад
Yea I’m pretty sure as a drummer my musical iq is a negative number
@Kraflyn
@Kraflyn 4 года назад
:D
@Maxarcc
@Maxarcc 4 года назад
:(
@larkstonguesinaspic4814
@larkstonguesinaspic4814 4 года назад
Same here lol. I only know rhythm related stuff. Do we drummers count as real musicians or not?
@diegosolana374
@diegosolana374 4 года назад
I feel you, brother. RLRR to you too.
@FlyingFlaneur
@FlyingFlaneur 4 года назад
Lol. Obligatory drummer jokes have now been preempted.
@hearpalhere
@hearpalhere 3 года назад
I love your final thoughts Adam, thank you for sharing this!
@ItalicAlec
@ItalicAlec 3 года назад
Kind of new to watching your videos. WOW... really insightful and thought provoking. thanks!
@gcewing
@gcewing 4 года назад
I get the feeling the key change one was testing "how well can you remember a really long sequence of arbitrary notes that don't make any melodic sense after hearing it just once".
@edmondtan3944
@edmondtan3944 4 года назад
I agree with this. I just woke up and am very drowsy and my key change score is significantly lower than my other 2 scores just because I couldn't remember 3 melodies. I had about a 17 point difference average from my other 2 sections compared to the key change section.
@goofectasruhxyodfrointe2160
@goofectasruhxyodfrointe2160 4 года назад
I couldn't memorize those long sequences either but the odd one sounded off somehow
@piesmuggler7268
@piesmuggler7268 4 года назад
they did shit like that in my normal iq test. i think that's one of the better parts of this test actually. it doesn't have the problem the beat and pitch tests have where being a more experienced musician matters more than having a high aptitude for understanding music. if you have played an instrument, you will do way better on the beat and pitch tests because you practice those things to play an instrument. remembering lines you just heard and hearing if the next is different isn't a thing you practice normally, so it's better for testing the functionality of the brain when it comes to music rather than just skill. that's just my opinion.
@kris_kay
@kris_kay 4 года назад
@@piesmuggler7268 I don't think it's that different from transcribing a piece of music. Granted you can rewind as many times as you like, slow down, you've probably heard the piece of music before, etc. etc., but fundamentally transcribing does sharpen up your musical memory. If you can picture in your head playing the notes on a keyboard I think that is evidence that there is skill involved in this one too imo. The 'not making musical sense' part is what makes it hard I think.
@lobsterbark
@lobsterbark 4 года назад
They use 3d audio for the virtual piano on that, so lower notes are further left. Oddly, when I stopped trying to remember the melody and just tried to remember the location the notes were coming from relative to each other it was much, much easier. I have ADHD, so I could just about remember two of them to compare, trying to compare three was impossible. But I instantly felt it when I heard a note come from a relative location different from the others.
@brianGJ
@brianGJ 4 года назад
Beat alignment: Me: Were you rushing or dragging??
@ampthebassplayer
@ampthebassplayer 4 года назад
Not my tempo.
@CristinaPerez-xq2qs
@CristinaPerez-xq2qs 4 года назад
One two thr👋 One two thr👋
@TRUETOILETTENPAPIER
@TRUETOILETTENPAPIER 4 года назад
*throws chair at head*
@FranticFoxBass
@FranticFoxBass 3 года назад
Amazing, I had a higher musical IQ than Adam Neeley!! *grabs bass sits down failing on Seven Nation Army
@PeerHond69
@PeerHond69 2 года назад
hahaha same
@coeur8042
@coeur8042 3 года назад
I like your thought process and impartiality!
@austinm741
@austinm741 4 года назад
~me while taking test~ this test is unfair and not at all an accurate representation of musical talent ~me after scoring higher than Adam~ this test is THE unquestioned scientific authority on musical IQ
@Rodoadrenalina
@Rodoadrenalina 2 года назад
i mean im a potato at music and scored only 8 point below adam
@2112jonr
@2112jonr 2 года назад
@@Rodoadrenalina Same here - I got 95, I should be WAY lower than that.
@MeltedHugo
@MeltedHugo 2 года назад
~me after scoring exactly the same total score as Adam~ this test is inconclusive
@fater8711
@fater8711 Год назад
I play guitar since the last six months and I score just below Ada, so....
@pvanukoff
@pvanukoff 4 года назад
"And even if your musical skills could use some work, rest assured: as far as we know, many people who have difficulty making music still enjoy listening to music very much." Wow. That's the second most condescending thing I've read or heard all week.
@tobiasmoodias4855
@tobiasmoodias4855 4 года назад
Its such a dumb statement too. You don't have to be physically good at playing music to have good musical ideas nor do you even have to be good at music theory to make good music.
@samhein321
@samhein321 4 года назад
that's just what unskilled musicians tell themselves
@hemIocked
@hemIocked 4 года назад
First most condescending thing?
@pvanukoff
@pvanukoff 4 года назад
@@hemIocked A coworker's code review comment.
@tobiasmoodias4855
@tobiasmoodias4855 4 года назад
@@pvanukoff Lmao if we were friends irl we would get along very well
@petermacinnes5313
@petermacinnes5313 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty, Adam.
@vidursury
@vidursury 3 года назад
Nice to see you taking the test, thanks for sharing. I took it a few times (at some time got a little obsessed) and at times results varied wildly/widely (take your pick), including both less and more than what we got when we played now, not sure how reliable it is (with respect to variance). Anyway, I think the singing in or off tune test makes a little more sense because of (mostly) having a 12 TET accompaniment in harmonic tonality. Wouldn't be so much if only the leading sung melody were used - some things wouldn't sound out of tune to me for example even if a drone were played for pitch reference (I'd think, it's dissonant, but so what, doesn't make it wrong), so maybe to that extent it's Eurocentric, or rather, Western - centric. Not to mention, like you said, that some some sound samples are so hazy that you can barely hear the voice, it's almost like a whisper. Anyway I like hearing the sample music, a lot was not even familiar to me, so I've played sometimes just for that :D I think the tune comparison test is quite different from the in/out of tune and on beat/tempo/phase lag tests because while the first involves pattern recognition, the other two are more absolute with respect to a reference, so minute differences are easier to overlook (or to the contrary, some may say that it's just off and that much more jarring, so you know that it's not on). I tend to perform best with the tune comparison test (not bad with the others either) so maybe I'm better at pattern recognition. Maybe because I think of music as being made of beautiful, aesthetic, moving sound patterns. I'm happy with that. Although I sometimes felt strongly that I was right and when it showed me 'incorrect' it was faulty, but also felt ambivalent about it being mechanical and possibly not lying. Anyway, it doesn't really matter, I think. This is nice as a game, maybe even a somewhat useful challenge, but shouldn't be used to measure your ability. We shouldn't rely on it or anything, and certainly not put down by it, heck no. But if we happen to do well, let's feel good, because why not? ;)
@PeterBarnesandjelly
@PeterBarnesandjelly 4 года назад
Melody Test in a nutshell: Practice 1: 4 notes in the same scale Practice 2: 84 notes in no discernible key Me: wtf
@nikibronson133
@nikibronson133 3 года назад
🤣
@orbik_fin
@orbik_fin 3 года назад
You can only instantly memorize a long sequence (over 7-8) if it's composed of already learned sub-patterns like a diatonic scale, often heard licks, or similar. So, designing an unbiased test is practically impossible.
@nikibronson133
@nikibronson133 3 года назад
@@orbik_fin hence the whole point of why this test and ones like it are bullshit....
@nikibronson133
@nikibronson133 3 года назад
@@orbik_fin also what's your sourcing on that?
@jonmunck7569
@jonmunck7569 4 года назад
The beep test is wild. I closed my eyes and tapped along to it, and got the right answer each time because I realized there was a sinking in my gut on the wrong one. Really strange that my body had a visceral reaction to the beat.
@jon...5324
@jon...5324 3 года назад
synesthete here, i feel it like this too but even more so i feel it being off somehow "spatially" (literally as spatial awareness like how you can judge distances between objects with your eyes closed)
@pudimy
@pudimy 3 года назад
i felt something strange in my ear and the sound sounded so distorted
@Cas1O
@Cas1O 3 года назад
Does pain count as synesthesia? Not physical pain. But intense discontent when the beat or tune does not match. It's worse than Cilantro.
@kindramusic
@kindramusic 3 года назад
I got that with the out of tune stuff too, the gut reaction.
@MitzyGale
@MitzyGale 3 года назад
@@kindramusic Same. I just went by which felt "wrong". I sucked totally and gave up on the beat one. Hey, I'm a clarinet player, not a drummer! (My daughter is a drummer, I should have her take the test.)
@Ichigoeki
@Ichigoeki 2 года назад
I like how you recoiled during the second part's dissonant notes the same way I always do too. X)
@JohannesNielsen
@JohannesNielsen 3 года назад
I took the test while you were taking it and got a substantial amount right, the best test was the most challenging
@vladimirlevinson9466
@vladimirlevinson9466 4 года назад
I made 10 incorrect answers and was about to say "ok I'm totally worthless" when I understood that you have to choose a more out of tune melody, not more in tune 😂
@andreiven4653
@andreiven4653 4 года назад
in this case will we correlate lower normal iq with lower musical iq?
@isaacfullerton
@isaacfullerton 4 года назад
Andrei Ven I think reading and comprehension would be lower, iq usually doesn’t cover reading.
@andreiven4653
@andreiven4653 4 года назад
@@isaacfullerton well, it implies it, doesn't it? but does music iq implies being able to read sheet music? idk, you may be right
@MsFlyingCake
@MsFlyingCake 4 года назад
LOL same happened to me, I actually noticed it but somehow I still mistakenly picked the "better" one
@luzzmo4351
@luzzmo4351 4 года назад
saaaaaame
@oisin_smith
@oisin_smith 4 года назад
clearly my IQ isn't high enough to work out how to start the quiz
@lavaande
@lavaande 4 года назад
@@robjobse8860 (due to this video I think) the servers are too overloaded. it just kicked me out
@FabulousKilljoy
@FabulousKilljoy 4 года назад
Hahaha
@FabulousKilljoy
@FabulousKilljoy 4 года назад
spill the lava Nah we’re just too small brain
@tkdmaster3bd
@tkdmaster3bd 3 года назад
I totally agree with your commentary on a narrow set of standards being used to apply benchmarks for measuring aptitude, particularly coming from a Jazz music perspective (the 1+3 thing threw me off a lot too). As a pop musician who lives on a click, however, I find myself having to set aside a lot of preconceived notions about how I hear music, and instead, have to try to stick myself into the situation where everything is riding on the click. So in this test I tried to get as outside of my preconceived musical ideology as possible (I missed the first question though) and simply tried to listen for a whether the click was ahead or behind the pulse of the drums/bass/strings, etc. I'm not sure what I'm doing that makes me able to do that-- maybe the producer in me is just thinking "ignore your personal feelings, just stick to the click/tuning" and that's how I'm able to get through the test. All that aside, even though I scored 125 on the beat section, I didn't like this click because it's a) not percussive enough (sine tones without an attack and fast decay are bad for defining time) b) because it's not a fast decay, you sometimes can't tell whether it's hitting the beat before or right on with the rest of the instrumentation.
@mathiasfantoni2458
@mathiasfantoni2458 2 года назад
To me, it sounded like the beats weren't only just delayed, but actually at different rates. Like, the interval between each beat would be different in the first example compared to the second example. So it's not just about delay or offset… it's actually about tempo.
@fikradas
@fikradas 4 года назад
Also their site must have gotten a Neely Hug of Death because the game just won't load haha
@nithindanday7747
@nithindanday7747 4 года назад
"what if there was indian karnatic music, would we be able to tell?" Me who grew up listing to indian music his whole life: No
@sowbarnickhasivarajan4622
@sowbarnickhasivarajan4622 3 года назад
me (who has had 7+ years singing karnatic): yeee.... NOPE xD
@shosty575
@shosty575 3 года назад
Lol
@SlyHikari03
@SlyHikari03 3 года назад
I grew up with Japanese folk music from Okinawa. Both probably have the same stuff.
@abinashsharma1688
@abinashsharma1688 3 года назад
@@SlyHikari03 not really... both are very different
@ballhawk387
@ballhawk387 3 года назад
This made me think of the music teacher that supposedly flunked Brian Wilson. A bandmate once commented on how I tended to bend the strings while playing lead lines. Later I read more about music theory, specifically natural intervals, and then realized *why* I did, and why such playing tended to sound "eastern," without having been aware of the theory behind at the time. And later came to realize why I have an affinity for chords with missing thirds.
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 Год назад
Wow, that was the most long-winded expression of "\m/" I've ever heard. kidding.
@ballhawk387
@ballhawk387 Год назад
@@jessejordache1869 Ha ha, good one!
@konig4626
@konig4626 2 года назад
I got everything right and I can't even read notes. I just produce music by ear. Love the content! Keep it going ♪
@turkicnomad5632
@turkicnomad5632 4 года назад
Ngl, my mom’s probably completely tone deaf but she’s also a middle eastern immigrant. When I mentioned the first study to her and insinuated that she’s not as tone deaf as she thinks, she lit up and started talking to me about the music she listened to before emigrating.
@twizz420
@twizz420 3 года назад
RIP
@nikibronson133
@nikibronson133 3 года назад
That's because this day really proves nothing other than like what Adam said it's a buzzfeed ear training quiz
@Suire1000
@Suire1000 3 года назад
On the other hand, my dad could not carry a tune in a bucket, and he was raised in a Western European society. My mother, on the other hand, was probably responsible for my musical aptitude.
@nikibronson133
@nikibronson133 3 года назад
@@Suire1000 musical aptitude isn't genetic it's Environmental and also what you personally like. On top of the fact making such an assertion would mean that you have an objective Universal standard to compare someone's capabilities to and that simply does not exist
@nikibronson133
@nikibronson133 3 года назад
@Carl Panzram Yes and No. Well yes because our genetics are literally the building blocks of our being that doesn't mean that our genetics have encoded within it beat perception or you can interpret genetics this way that also functions from the idea that g-factor is genetic when it's never even been proven to exist so either way the still fundamentally flawed bc it assumes a lot of things and even if let's just say that you're right that there's a genetic component to everything that doesn't mean we can use genetics like an answer key or that that this is the way to express whatever we think our genetics have in them. Like our genetics don't explain everything they just don't and I see why people would think that's the case but a lot of times we underestimate how much environment plays into things and also forget that what we consider better is based on a lot of subjective Construction
@isweartofuckinggod
@isweartofuckinggod 4 года назад
"Answer these simple questions about beeping and we'll predict how good you are at playing the violin with 100% accuracy! (Yes, it really works!)"
@jakobboers5067
@jakobboers5067 4 года назад
DREAMCRASH music teachers hate him!
@jesselandreth4497
@jesselandreth4497 4 года назад
Sacrilegious. Ling Ling would not approve
@chase4557
@chase4557 4 года назад
I play the violin and the drums. I kinda failed the beeping test with like 3 or 4 mistakes, guess I'm never going to make it as a musician lol
@morricane5087
@morricane5087 4 года назад
@@chase4557 No worries, that will not impact the enjoyment you can get out of listening to music!
@merdufer
@merdufer 4 года назад
@@jesselandreth4497 Ling Ling would practice 40 hours every day by waking up 16 hours before the day starts.
@macronencer
@macronencer 11 месяцев назад
You're quite right about the Western-centric thing, especially with tests 1 and 3. I've played piano in a salsa band (Afro-Cuban), and the variance of the beat "lag"/"push" between instruments was extremely subtle and took a lot of practice to grow accustomed to.
@smtonlinevideos
@smtonlinevideos Год назад
Great video! I really appreciated the cultural considerations you highlighted.
@wiktorszotowski5728
@wiktorszotowski5728 4 года назад
He takes me driving and then leaves me in the caaaaar
@manolisk33
@manolisk33 4 года назад
That was funny: my wife and I are both musicians and we did the test alongside with you. At the first "beat" test, we both went "yeah, the second one", like you did. It turned out all three of us were wrong. Then we commented about which beat makes the music feel better... and then you said the exact same thing.
@MrFerriirawan
@MrFerriirawan 4 года назад
Maybe because we love Lo-fi music
@kylanbowden6125
@kylanbowden6125 4 года назад
In contrast, I'm nowhere near the level of musician Adam is, but I got more answers correct, and sometimes faster, than Adam, despite definitely not having a higher musical IQ. I think it purely signifies my listening and musicianship is closer to typical Western pop than his; I don't have as much JAZZ flowing through my veins.
@gioasencio4946
@gioasencio4946 4 года назад
It was just cuz of what he said, you weren't expecting it, so you forgot. I thought that one was pretty easy
@julianpinzoneslava
@julianpinzoneslava 4 года назад
Musician here too. I went for the second one too!
@sverreeldy9765
@sverreeldy9765 3 года назад
Your point about culture being highly relevant and this test just focusing on western style music is very crucial: I remember vividly being asked to a party with some sudanese exchange students - they were really impressed with me - since I, as a former drummer, had no problem clapping sextuplets while dancing to 2/4 music - which was their "thing". I remember going home from that party thinking that culture is so much more diverse than it's normally represented. You would have had to be a drummer or experienced that culture all your life to do that. I have tried getting musician friends to do a 4/4 8th note thing with one hand and sextuplets with the other - nobody can do that; but this whole party had no problem doing that with their whole body - for hours. :D
@kasnarfburns210
@kasnarfburns210 3 года назад
This is interesting. It's seem to be largely a test of memory and positions of tones and rhythms relative to each other. It's been years that I've been studying music. In the western tradition, we've been raised on octaves but that's simply a convention.
@YourIdeologyIsDelusional
@YourIdeologyIsDelusional 4 года назад
I notice that in the tuning test, they used a lot of 90s genres and even had some radio-head-ish pieces in there. That amuses me because a lot of that stuff is very intentionally out of tune, or uses harmonization that doesn't quite match up, in addition to leaning on mixing conventions where everything kinda runs together to make, for a lack of a better term, a "soup" of sound. It's clear the test is trying to throw the listener off.
@teddymcsnuggins815
@teddymcsnuggins815 4 года назад
Spot on. Thom Yorke used vocal dissonance so superbly
@skepticmoderate5790
@skepticmoderate5790 4 года назад
Yeah. I have a choral background, so I had a hard time discriminating the tuning for the rough voices they used since I'm used to more clear/sonorous vocals.
@ito3308
@ito3308 4 года назад
I thought so too
@jpaslawski93
@jpaslawski93 4 года назад
that doesn't matter at all. Your quest was to pick a piece that has a vocal more out of tune than the other, having two to chose from. Simple, doesnt require considering any of things you mentioned.
@WarKeineAbsicht
@WarKeineAbsicht 4 года назад
@@jpaslawski93 No, but it does. I like that kinda sound so I can't tell if it's supposedly "out of tune"
@omerkeidar95
@omerkeidar95 4 года назад
*scored 85 on beat perception *Remembers that I'm a guitar player "Yeah story checks out".
@32pritch
@32pritch 4 года назад
139 Beat Perception. 98 melodic. Yep. Still a bass player.
@Sindrasos
@Sindrasos 4 года назад
@@32pritch I feel you on that one lmfao
@ZodiacEntertainment2
@ZodiacEntertainment2 4 года назад
@@32pritch Same but 118 and 83
@baroqueviolin82
@baroqueviolin82 3 года назад
5:44 is actually Balinese Gamelan, my Dear Friend.
@johnjjohningtoniii2439
@johnjjohningtoniii2439 3 года назад
lol I loved how you used the test music in the transitions.
@baptistewxpolpodcast3339
@baptistewxpolpodcast3339 4 года назад
In theory IQ is supposed to be stable over time, however all the "skills" tested here stike me as highly trainable ... mmh
@Math_Cook
@Math_Cook 4 года назад
Iq is not supposed to be stable. Dosen´t make the test any better though
@lucaslucas191202
@lucaslucas191202 4 года назад
In Asian countries it isn't uncommon to train for IQ tests. So there's that.
@Adderkleet
@Adderkleet 4 года назад
Originally, the IQ test was to let teachers know how skilled the 6-year-olds were. In France. The theory of measuring G is pretty suspect. And most IQ tests today corrolate with your wealth, or how much you've read, or how many IQ tests you've taken.
@AI-jl5kp
@AI-jl5kp 4 года назад
Well in theory IQ is a load of rubbish anyway.
@jwg72
@jwg72 4 года назад
A lot of IQ test skills are trainable - and as already mentioned, Binet's original goal was to identify kids who needed extra help to raise their scores - not to uncover some innate unchangeable quality of the individual.
@stayingmyself
@stayingmyself 4 года назад
Adam being mad at the beats on one and three Me: *nervously sweats in German* (there is this stereotype in Germany that Germans will always clap on one and three, no matter the kind of music...)
@MrCocktaiI
@MrCocktaiI 4 года назад
Having attended a Blues Brothers performance in Germany, I can confirm this
@Toastbug
@Toastbug 4 года назад
Same here. Immediatly thought of Musikantenstadl
@Checkmate1138
@Checkmate1138 4 года назад
Why is that, compared to other European cultures?
@xMasterxRazorx
@xMasterxRazorx 4 года назад
I have some German blood in me, so that helps explain why I only clap on 1 and 3.
@Pokechon
@Pokechon 4 года назад
I am just speculating here, but I believe that's because of the heavy influence of Polka Music, where the bass horn plays or accents 1 & 3. A lot of central American music has that same time feel in their songs which is derived from that same influence.
@offisk
@offisk 2 года назад
Very informative! Thank you for your knowledge and sensibility. Always intriguing and well stated. The Ipanema…. Episode was very extensive and well done
@jamelporter6974
@jamelporter6974 9 месяцев назад
I love your perception and information about other cultures perspective on music intelligence. You are good with your analysis!✊🏿💯‼️
@felipe8511
@felipe8511 4 года назад
"Which exemple seems more out of tune?" Proceeds using samples from genres that souding out of tune is edgy
@gregsimmons3323
@gregsimmons3323 2 года назад
yeah, some of the out of tune ones actually sound better
@dominikweber4305
@dominikweber4305 2 года назад
@@gregsimmons3323 more spicy
@dhd2042
@dhd2042 2 года назад
Agree, because sometimes the voice is not stable and makes different pitch in some notes in the correct answe, then it makes confusion while the engineered sound is always the correct answer.
@rngsilvercraft3995
@rngsilvercraft3995 4 года назад
Adam: Introduces an online test The website: *dies*
@vocalmajority8260
@vocalmajority8260 2 года назад
Thanks for being open minded and going against the grain, Adam.
@danceswithdirt7197
@danceswithdirt7197 2 года назад
Thank you for the video. I just took the test and it really bummed me out when I didn't score as high as I thought I would on the second and third parts.
@cathaldotcom
@cathaldotcom 4 года назад
It's fun in the same way that "wHiCh fRieNdS chAraCter ArEyOU?" tests are, but it's pretty audacious of them to try to claim that it's indicative of "Musical Skill" lol
@bonniejunk
@bonniejunk 4 года назад
I am pleased that people use the word audacious
@proggigs
@proggigs 4 года назад
@@bonniejunk I'm glad you had the audacity to say that
@thomasrj7390
@thomasrj7390 4 года назад
haaaa someone got a 72
@NateTheKang
@NateTheKang 4 года назад
My musical IQ is 69 *This feels like a win to me*
@selueen3028
@selueen3028 4 года назад
nice
@marakomasurov868
@marakomasurov868 4 года назад
nice
@virginia.malone
@virginia.malone 4 года назад
nice
@FelipeMesquita
@FelipeMesquita 4 года назад
LMAO
@luantrindade8325
@luantrindade8325 4 года назад
Anything above 0 I would consider a success for myself
@FrankMeijering
@FrankMeijering 2 года назад
Can we just take a moment to admire the incredible midi sound in the melody test.. Why did they not take the time to make it sound maybe just a bit better?
@nortongartino4602
@nortongartino4602 3 года назад
Thanks for the insight, Adam!
@RyanDB
@RyanDB 3 года назад
In the second test: you don't need to remember the first one at all after comparing it to the second. If the first and second are the same, the third is the odd one out (just listen to confirm). If the first two are different, then one of them must be the odd one. Compare second to third. If they're the same, the first is the odd one out. If they're different, the second one must be the odd one out
@jayrob5270
@jayrob5270 3 года назад
Haha, yes I used the same logic some people may call it cheating but I call it common sense.
@A.l.d.o.
@A.l.d.o. 3 года назад
That's another proof of how this and similar tests actually fail (!) at testing what they claim to test, testing in reality something completely different.
@guitarbrother1234
@guitarbrother1234 3 года назад
This is a problem that Adam Neely didn't mention, but a lot of tests really measure test-taking tactics, and makes the results content-independent.
@truthmerchant1
@truthmerchant1 3 года назад
That was the method I was instinctually using until he talked about having to remember the first one, and then my brain froze and I started getting the answers wrong.
@2112jonr
@2112jonr 2 года назад
@@guitarbrother1234 100% with you. IQ tests test how good you are at repeatedly taking IQ tests. Nothing more.
@ianburt2290
@ianburt2290 3 года назад
That second test is really hard if you struggle with working memory. Especially if you have ADHD.
@mrpuddlz1330
@mrpuddlz1330 2 года назад
as a person with adhd, yes.
@MrBoston1630
@MrBoston1630 2 года назад
Yeah, i was lost when they got longer haha
@bruceboom7378
@bruceboom7378 2 года назад
Well, a regular IQ test is prolly also harder with adhd i imagine
@ianburt2290
@ianburt2290 2 года назад
@@bruceboom7378 surprisingly not the case. I actually score highly on generalized IQ tests, as do many who have ADHD.
@icanhasutoobz
@icanhasutoobz 2 года назад
Yes, it's hopelessly conflated with long-sequence memory testing. It would be better if they gave you three buttons to play the pieces as many times as you wanted to. It would still test the abilty to distinguish between the transpositions.
@micah_noel
@micah_noel 2 года назад
Wow! I scored exactly the same as you did on the first test. I got a little lost in the second test for the reasons you described I suppose. I had a lot of trouble deciding on the 3rd test but I did better than I thought I would. This was a lot of fun!
@1Rockstok
@1Rockstok 2 года назад
This was very cool Adam.
@gillianirwin5093
@gillianirwin5093 4 года назад
Ethnomusicologist here. What a great video - I'll definitely use it in my classes. Also in case Adam sees this comment: that's a Balinese gamelan you have in the clip, not a Javanese gamelan. Both have interesting tuning systems, though!
@michaelladerman2564
@michaelladerman2564 3 года назад
I think you'd confirm that they have interesting tuning systems in which each gamelan has its own internally consistent tuning of instruments of fixed pitch that is different from that of every other gamelan (unless someone started standardizing that when I wasn't looking). My DMA is in flute performance, but my mother was a well-known anthropologist specializing in Malaysia and I did enough study and listening over the years to be able to teach an upper-divisional course on Southeast Asian music.
@fabe61
@fabe61 3 года назад
@@michaelladerman2564 Surely not THE Carol Laderman? How cool!
@michaelladerman2564
@michaelladerman2564 3 года назад
@@fabe61 The same.
@andaroo.j
@andaroo.j 4 года назад
Interestingly, in the example where you complained about beats 1 & 3, I actually heard it as 2 & 4 and completely shifted the whole song 1 beat back.
4 года назад
LOL me too! 😂 I just assumed...
@Qhartb
@Qhartb 4 года назад
Same. I tried relistening to hear the drum pattern, but I couldn't really hear it though the beep track.
@Fire-Toolz
@Fire-Toolz 4 года назад
ME TOO!!!
@room34
@room34 4 года назад
Same. I've listened to it about 30 times now and my brain won't let those beeps be on 1 and 3.
@yairalkon4944
@yairalkon4944 4 года назад
I first did the test on my own and distinctively thought it was funny they put the beeps on 2 and 4. I'd love to hear Adam's explanation of this in a q&a!
@GalenH15
@GalenH15 2 года назад
super cool video, fun to play along. I clearly need to work on my rhythm. Glad to hear you call out the "western only" perspective. Would love to hear you address the scales used in Ethiopian jazz music like Admas and Hailu Mergia-- they have a couple that are fantastic, but just untouched in the western world
@seangdolan
@seangdolan 3 года назад
123 baby! Woot! Very cool test. I'm glad I checked out this video. New sub here.
@naturada137
@naturada137 4 года назад
After taking the test, on top of the obvious eurocentrism, I feel like some of the clips are just so goddamn long that they're not even really testing the musical parameters they say they are, just like, raw, cognitive memory. I also think for the beat test, they should play a measure with no beeps each clip so you can get the tempo. Just throwing you into it is really jarring. The fact that this test is incredibly flawed as a metric for an individual's "musicality" is clear when you consider I got a higher score than...Adam...and he's obviously leagues ahead of me and the general public in terms of musical knowledge & ability. So people who take this test: it's a fun distraction but I wouldn't put too much credence into what result you get.
@matthewharnage9601
@matthewharnage9601 4 года назад
Agreed. It seems like its mostly just aural short term memory
@colorsofsound4782
@colorsofsound4782 4 года назад
Another criticism is that as a classically trained musician, I scored quite poor (average, but poor as a musician) on beats. I did average on mistuning, but I absolutely nailed the melody with a score of 130, and I imagine a percussionist in a jazz band would have the opposite of mine sort of. So, this test is in no way reliable.
@lukebarkermusic
@lukebarkermusic 4 года назад
Yes I agree the melody section in particular was hard on memory having 3 clips. If 1 and 2 are different you have to keep both in memory to compare against 3, as well as trying to think how the key change would affect it. I got 111 in the test, the melody questions were the worst scoring for me but I do wish beat perception was better with drums being my main instrument.
@lilychalmers9944
@lilychalmers9944 4 года назад
colorsofsound as a classically trained pianist, who had since picked up jazz percussion and singing, I did very well on mistuning, pretty well on beats, and poor (like genuinely worse than most people) on the melody
@dianaraabarca5576
@dianaraabarca5576 4 года назад
I was thinking the exact same thing. my STM is pretty shit, especially under pressure, and while I was doing this i was like wait, I don't *remember* what the last tune sounded like.
@PieterSchlosser
@PieterSchlosser 4 года назад
“Not gonna say this test is dumb but... this test is dumb”. Agreed!
@muffinamy83
@muffinamy83 2 года назад
As a pianist, I found myself physically playing the melodies in my head as well to determine which was 'off.' I can't imagine how a non-musician would discern the differences. I also got a 118 overall.
@mariagabrielaoliveira8523
@mariagabrielaoliveira8523 2 года назад
I got 117 and I'm not a musician, I don't even know how to play any instrument. But I knew that I'd do it well cause i always know when someone (even me) or some instrument get out of tune. I think I just have a good perception. Don't really know... maybe I have perfect pitch or was just lucky me
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Год назад
@@mariagabrielaoliveira8523 that is the experience of perfect pitch with no musical training to relate to, yeah. Another non-music-theory test is can you just tell when a recording is slightly too fast or too slow? But you can’t necessarily always say which, just that it sounds “wrong”? People without perfect pitch can’t discern such subtle changes in tuning.
@murdockscott
@murdockscott 2 года назад
I agree 100% on the presenters assessment of this test, having said that, I am quite tickled that I was able to keep pace with him and even got a couple that he missed (as well as missed one or two that he answered correctly) 😉.
@dougnulton
@dougnulton 4 года назад
My musical IQ is 432
@schizophrenicenthusiast
@schizophrenicenthusiast 4 года назад
Mine is 440, therefore you're inferior
@Ismael-kc3ry
@Ismael-kc3ry 4 года назад
Rekt
@robsmith5434
@robsmith5434 4 года назад
Mine is 420.
@hermask815
@hermask815 4 года назад
​@@schizophrenicenthusiast which one of you was the one who answered? and do the others consent?
@MmeHyraelle
@MmeHyraelle 4 года назад
it sound kinda bad tbh.
@MrSmoothvideos
@MrSmoothvideos 4 года назад
The fact that I have a similar 'musical IQ' to Adam, shows how floored the test is.
@AlibifortheAfterlife
@AlibifortheAfterlife 4 года назад
The fact I scored higher than him should send the point home even further lol
@ciankiwi7753
@ciankiwi7753 4 года назад
Flawed*, but good point. The test measures your ability to pick out specific elements of Western pop and nothing more. If anything, it shows that you are both familiar with the style.
@josephruby2981
@josephruby2981 4 года назад
@@ciankiwi7753 MrSmooth is from Boston.
@luismacara8467
@luismacara8467 4 года назад
MrSmoothvideos why?
@AaronOrtiz
@AaronOrtiz 4 года назад
@@AlibifortheAfterlife As in real life, raw talent doesn't make you successful (I also scored higher, but am not even close to Adam's level)
@user-dv8bs7tb5c
@user-dv8bs7tb5c 2 года назад
This is really fun, and an entirely untrained person who has a feeling they have "good ear" my answers almost entirely matched yours lol I love this and I love that I'll learn about non European musical ideals on your channel
@connectingthedots100
@connectingthedots100 3 года назад
Thanks, for analyzing this. Confirms to me, why I'm subscribed to you.
@illuminatibraincontrol
@illuminatibraincontrol 4 года назад
Did anyone else feel like some of the more in tune vocals, even if in tune, still just... sounded worse for the part?
@GuitarKitchen
@GuitarKitchen 4 года назад
I think the one that sounded like Nirvana (sort of) sounded better with the vocals "more" out of tune ... And #7, first choice sounds better to me.
@NorthEagle
@NorthEagle 4 года назад
Yes, the question was; which one is MOST out of tune, indicating the possibility of both being out of tune. I also noticed that and made some mistakes there because of that
@SousSherpa
@SousSherpa 4 года назад
Y'up, particularly the more Indie sounding "Spacey" type music. I got a 112 and I went to college for music, so now I feel like shit. : (
@anty.
@anty. 4 года назад
i got above average on the other 2 parts but i got a fuckin 66 on the 1st part because I ended up having to guess a bit. I've never listened to the songs before and alot of the pitch changed ones i felt still "went" with the music as well as the ones that were apparently in tune. or literally just sounded the same. idk if its because i listen to alot of indie music (...and weezer) and weird vocal tunings are kinda normal, or if im just a big dumb dumb. im gonna try retaking it later edit: bruh i just retook the first part and i got 12/15?? on my first try it was like 6/15? edit 2: ok i finished the retake and i got 110 on the first part but then i got basically average on the 3rd part. this test ain't really that consistent (maybe im not consistent which is more likely)
@SousSherpa
@SousSherpa 4 года назад
What is average on this test? That's another thing I didn't get. It says 85% score between 85 and 115, and 95% score between 75 and 130. I can't comprehend that.
@mondaynightmood7997
@mondaynightmood7997 4 года назад
“It’s basically a buzzfeed quiz” DAMN!
@ExpatZ266
@ExpatZ266 2 года назад
NICE! I got the same scores as you did! Gives me hope. Time to practice...
@kwokedwin9628
@kwokedwin9628 2 года назад
The test 1 really got me cause of the mistuned version sound more better, and sometimes the mistuned notes actually works in a different way. Like a different harmonic relationships...
@chrissennfelder7249
@chrissennfelder7249 4 года назад
Sometimes, I preferred the "wrong" solution over the correct one, especially when the vocals were more on the flat side. Overall, it's a fun little test without any deeper meaning.
@unicornhorn6662
@unicornhorn6662 4 года назад
Yes and that is a very interesting topic. Most musicians agree that sharper = clearer and flatter = warmer
@The16thninja
@The16thninja 4 года назад
That's not what the question was asking though, it's not "which do you prefer", it's being able to perceive one as off pitch, and one as on pitch.
@braveheart1320
@braveheart1320 4 года назад
@@The16thninja But that's just the point. The ability to discern which is more "on pitch" isn't correlative to someone's ability to make music.
@zacharyrestelli1402
@zacharyrestelli1402 4 года назад
​@@braveheart1320 I don't think that entirely follows. Being able to accurately perceive when something is and isn't on-pitch could help you determine while making music when it is exactly that you want to go off pitch, when you want to go back on pitch, and especially when doing improv determine when you need to adjust yourself to match the rest of the band.
@The16thninja
@The16thninja 4 года назад
@@braveheart1320 Actually it absolutely is correlative to one's ability to make music, as a matter of fact, it's pretty important. There's a difference between a conscious decision to go off pitch for the sake of a song, and not being able to match pitch.
@peterwing422
@peterwing422 4 года назад
Please help I'm still stuck in my husband's car
@bintang_sakti
@bintang_sakti 4 года назад
Umm 911?
@hirisen
@hirisen 4 года назад
Stepson has entered the chat
@FabulousKilljoy
@FabulousKilljoy 4 года назад
Have you tried setting it on fire
@aeloh6921
@aeloh6921 4 года назад
Is this a joke? I don't get it
@NoahStolee
@NoahStolee 4 года назад
Gotta love him cause he drives you around tho
@CraigBurnett
@CraigBurnett 2 года назад
For the record, I got all the same answers as you on the tuning test, including the ones you got wrong. My background is similar to yours, but a bit less extensive. It would be interesting to analyze the ones we got wrong to see what threw us.
@adam_wynne
@adam_wynne Год назад
Just came back and watched this a second time (like 3 years later) and absolutely smashed the first 2 tests. Can't wait to receive my master's degree in the mail 👊🤙 HOWEVER, no matter HOW MANY TIMES I replay 9/15 in test 3 (12:28), the second example sounds considerably more bang-on to me! Anyone else get this?
@robertstallard7836
@robertstallard7836 Год назад
Yes, but don't take any notice of me as I took the test and scored 64, ("You did as well as or better than 0.82% of people"), so I'm a certified Musical Moron!
@unbereafigendlic8414
@unbereafigendlic8414 Год назад
They both sounded close, but the middle section of the first one was a little off.
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