I just wanna get this out there: this is an edit recreating the original Lisa, who was white. The last shot may have been a little unfortunate, but it was for the sole purpose of showing the before/after. It's not a secret that I love and miss the original Lisa, and the majority wanted me to share this edit. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M AGAINST DIVERSITY, I just wish they went about it differently (adding new characters instead of changing existing ones). Like I said in the video: the new Lisa looks great and is a good character, she's just not MY Lisa. I would've loved if they added her IN ADDITION to the soul riders. I'm not here to disrespect anyone or to make any kind of political statements, so I'm sorry if it came off the wrong way 💀💀
@@themicroswave did you not read the comment? I don't get why people call her racist and accuse her of whitewashing when Lisa was white for the majority of these games. Like yeah, she's not white anymore, but does that mean that we officially have to hate the original because of her skin colour? I get that a lot of people can relate to the new one, but there's also a lot of people relating to the old one, who was officially removed from the game. Let us have this.
Tbh Lisa's new look is not the fault of the concept artist(matilda geijer). The concept art looks so cool and fits lisa very well! It was the 3d artist that took matilda's great design and turned it into the soft country girl that we see in the game
They probably did it because the person who put her in game didn't know how to do this style, I feel like they could have just gotten the model maker to practice other styles of fashion than just western
I really don't mind that they made her latina (or half?) but I really wish they would have stuck to her original sense of style and personality and not made her into a country girl. It really isn't the same person.
Honestly, this is pretty much it how I imagined updated Lisa to be like, a true rock star, as she was supposed to be. I agree with you, the new Lisa in SSO isn't OUR Lisa. I grew up playing Starshine Legacy games and I still have them on PC. However western riding does fit better than racing to the rock star imago. But I'm totally in love with this edit!!
I was so dissatisfied when I originally found out about how she was gonna look. As a punkish rider myself she was the only truly relatable character to me and I loved how she stood out from the others so much. Slightly unrelated but I understand why they changed her race for more diversity, but they did it in such an unnatural way. She was an already pre-existing main character, racebending in general is disgusting, especially on a kids game. I’m glad they didn’t whitewash Linda, though I think her new design is also pretty bad.
There’s literally ZERO representation for alternative fashion in sso!! I’m a trans guy and i’m emo/scene irl, while my sso character is goth. I wish Lisa could’ve been a metalhead, it would’ve been so cool 😭
I don’t know much about Lisa, but hear me out: Lisa could have been a rockstar (I think that was what she was before? Idk sorry) and her dad, stilling grieving over Lisa’s moms death could have tried making Lisa play country music, and you could have a side-quest where you and Lisa convince her father that he shouldn’t pressure Lisa to play music she doesn’t want to play.
Personally I don't mind either design of Lisa, both aesthetics work well in a different way. A coutry girl fits well into a horse story, and a punk girl who rides horses is a rare, refreshing combination. What bugs me though is how SSO uses her as a mascot, despite Lisa being probably the least relatable of all soul riders. She feels like she has no flaws, never makes a mistake, and almost all tragic backstory elements are piled onto her. She's dealing with the loss of a parent, she's unwillingly moved away from home, her horse was orphaned AND her dad works for Dark Core? Girl, pick a struggle. And unlike Alex, who is really well written imo, Lisa seems to bear little to no emotional scars from all the mess she's endured in life. The little we get feels extremely fake to me. Starshine himself isn't helping Lisa's case much either, he's a huge missed opportunity. There's another soul rider who could've had a dad who works for Dark Core - Anne! I feel like that could lead to some interesting character development, and would make a cool plot twist once the story progresses.
I like your way of thinking, and also appreciate that you actually pointed out the things wrong with the new versions other than the fact that they're different that the old ones.
But remember Lisa is their baby girl who can’t have any flaws, a blue and white horse (still confused as heck about this- no other soul rider has a colorful horse) no mom, dad works for dc, like she really is pulled out of a watt pad story-
Alright, come on, share your love for editing with the people who developed a burning passion against it. But really, this was amazing. I'd love to see more edits in this style. Lisa's never looked better.
I was playing well before the updated starters and soul riders, but at the time I didn't know they existed cuz I wasn't a star rider until after they were updated x)
I think her miscreants thing on her shirt could've been red. Idk it'd look like a good red pop to her design and match her hair But that's what I wanted when I heard the soul riders were getting a change Thanks lol
Great Job on the Lisa redesign! I love yours much more than the sso's design! :D. They really made her into a different character which wouldn't be that bad if they didn't force that country look on her, same goes for Anne. The OG Anne was a snobby mean girl but she was also a genuinely a nice person, the new one is just miSuNdErsTOod. They really did Lisa and Anne dirty huh
I personally find it sad that like,, most people in the comments dont even recognize that she was just.. straight up white washed..? like sure, praise a design all you want, but if a company is making efforts to provide some MUCH needed representation to a game, why would you stop them from doing that..?
@yumeko's left toe nail Yes, of course we need representation, and them giving us more representation is a good thing, but Eleanor was trying to make her recognisable as the Lisa that so many of us fell in love with. Had she kept her rock personnel then no one would care, but Lisa from SSL and Lisa from SSO are two completely different people, you cannot recognise her. We need more representation, but we don’t need Lisa to suddenly go from rock to country. Western suits her, we just needed to keep the rock the hair & have some fun clothes. We just want her to be the same person she was.
@@yumekoslefttoenail6746 yeah the whitewashing was unnecesary, I was mostly talking about the hair and clothes, we need the representation and Lisa both OG and new looks great
you’re not alone on this, I feel the exact same about the soulrider change. Alex stayed the same imo but anne became this “angel that looks mean but i swear she’s nice” while she was a sassy popular girl. Linda turned from a bookworm to some stupid fangirl. I’d love to see more edits of a new version of other old sso story characters that haven’t been updated yet
I kinda get Linda’s change because yknow people can change and she did still stick to her old style a bit with books n stuff but Lisa and Anne I hate them
i feel like they could have so easily like. made her interesting maybe they could've used the fact that linda is so smart to improve her fangirl-ness, like she could complain to the player about the inaccuracies about female armor and how a sword was wielded
@@desertprince2392 um, she's still smart? What's wrong with her being into fandoms, it kinda makes sense. A lot of people, especially bookworms, do. We love to discuss our favourite books with people who enjoyed them as much, some discussions are really interesting and make us learn and grow. When I think about it, it's kinda sad that people who just are very excited about stories and like to talk about them with other fans are seen as disgusting, stupid and cringey because of some really young and annoying "uwu he is my husband" type of "fangirls".
I used to love all the main characters’ designs, especially Lisa since she was a punk rocker and I identified with her alot as another alternative rider. When I found out about her design change I was so mad. 😭
I have a little theory on why Lisa went from a rockstar to a country girl. So she was probably born a country girl in Texas as her story says and after her mom died and we go into the timeline of Starshine Legacy and Star Academy she was having emotional troubles and being influenced by her city surroundings to become a rockstar. Eventually she got over the emotional issues and went back to being a country girl. I have no idea how well this ties in with the books since I’m unsure when they take place in the timeline. Correct me on this theory if something doesn’t fit quite well 😁
It's amazing what a difference color and a few details can make in a clothing design in order to convey character traits. Just changing the coat color and putting studs on the books would really helped. Plus the t-shirt is awesome. Personally, if we were using the older concept art/in game stuff as references, then I think the skin tone you had at about 1:56 is more accurate. It's more "ivory" than "fair" in the concealer chart. I get why you went with a blue/pinky fair tone b/c they did change the tonal quality of her red hair from a yellow red to a blue red. (Its' a tomato versus a strawberry thing.) I think if they were or are going to try to change the Soul Riders so much from their SSL selves, then we need to have more story in the game to justify what's going on. Like, Lisa went to Star Academy and met some band mates (Where are they? Um... important they should have been on tour with her.) Maybe her style changed! Maybe Anne ran into some really mean girls on the dressage circuit and I dunno. They need to justify these story choices to the long term players who do remember SSL. (Or the books, no idea on the books. Haven't read them.) But this would require... adding... content... not... HORSES. AHHHHH. Great job on the edit. (Not touching the race wank.) This fashion/character designer/author person gives you 2 thumbs up on the edit.
Wow ok- I had just rewatched your "Let's talk about character developement" video, and because of a weird consicidence, you made a video talking about the soul riders again🤣 BUT- Let's just say it, your remakes looks downright AWESOME! It's breathtaking how GOOD you made her look, without changing her whole personality! Man, if SSO did this, i would be crying out of joy.
I would love if Lisa looked like that but I don't dislike the model of the Lisa that we have in the game. I would love if the model we have in game was an other character.
I know that diversity is good and all, but they could've just created a new character altogether instead of completely changing an old one. But new lisa is still really pretty!
I think that’s true! Like she could have Lisa’s old fashion and music style but still keep her new backstory with her Mexican mom (which I think is cool, and that story of doing that funeral with her and everything). That’s all that would need to be changed, and I don’t see why people are making an issue of her being more tanned or with a more olive complexion because that’s not significant at all.
@@ganonsimp1368 and then the same complaints about not being true to the originals would still be around because they added a new soul rider. Disliking aesthetic changes is valid, but SSO simply giving her a more diverse background doesn't change anything about her character.
@@yeetngreet148 Yeah a combination of the two would’ve been great!, I also d’ont understand the problem with her skincolour. She looked great before and now also with a tan!✨💕
I like her character, it’s just so different from the old one. Funnily enough the burn mark of Lisa on the wall when you go to save her, is still the silhouette of the old Lisa.
Oh but you know what I don't like is that in the starshine ranch quests you meet Lisa and learn abt her past a bit. But in the main story, she's lost without a trace in pandoria!
I was so obsessed with rockstar Lisa when I was younger and I watched some star academy vids I even listened to the songs she sang in star academy lol and I don’t really like the new Lisa
yea i never understood why they went from rock to country on her, like i guess they're trying to make it soft and kid friendly, but then, Miscreants? like, what? they just swapped her out kinda
@@charlottediamondfrog8326 the jacket would be pretty hard to recreate, since she wars a coat now 🤔 but I definitely could make her less fangirly and more bookish 😊😊
I’m early! I love your theories, and your videos are so interesting. Tbh, my SSO character represents old Lisa. Red hair, green eyes with my own touches. I miss old SSO, and starshine legacy now
I'm so glad I found you, because you talk about my nieche interests from my childhood🥰 I would love to see the other characters as well, the way you would imagine them, or maybe even the old character models updated to a new look. Great video!😊
Yeah, I've gotten a few requests to do the other soul riders as well, and the guardian horses, so I might look into those 😊 I also really wanna create Star Academy characters, but idk how to do that since there are no updated versions of them... I might need to use some other characters as a base 🤔
i would like more of these!! this was insane and even my sister (who doesn't play sso) thought it looked amazing! u r so talented please do more like this!
@@sylviemiststream Oh hey, I didn't expect you to reply. but I can agree both are perfect but I'm really curious what Eleanor can do it! since I was very used on old models of soul riders so I really want to see Eleanor try to recreate it with the current model! Hopefully you understand that!
@@sylviemiststream I find linda to be too exhausting with the whole knights of unistria thing, she used to be about facts and now she's all about fiction and fan-fiction, which I don't find very interesting or true to the original character, her design is great though.
I agree that Alex and Linda are pretty good, although there are still some minor differences between the old and new versions (Alex's hair and eyes, Linda's fangirlyness), so it would be cool to try to alter them to become a vit more like the originals. People also want me to do Anne, so I might do a video in the future with all three of them
Your design is perfect. It reminds me of the beloved Lisa from the Star Stable updated trailer. "Star Stable: The Story of Jorvik". IT LITERALLY LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE HER! I wish they would've used this design instead and then just added the new Lisa model as a different character. In my opinion she looks identical to Skye from Mistfall just saying,,
this... this is the Lisa I fell in love with! I am forever a rock girl and country doesn't fit Lisa sure she is Texian but the Lisa we met was rock 'n roll not whatever the game made her
Do I agree? No. The new Lisa feels like home to me. And it’s not like it’s because I started the game when country Lisa was, because my main story quest were bugged so I had the old versions up till the last 4 main quests. I just really enjoy her and she feels like home.
This. I want her to look like this!! 😩😭💀 And I agree with a lot of people that mixing country and rock would have. Been fine. And that a punk rock girl liking horses is definitely more cooler and different. There's plenty of country girls that like horses. Unfortunate that they changed her
I personally like that sso decided to change her from a rock girl to a country girl. Lisa has always felt like a main character to me and a country girl lead fits a horse game much better than a rock girl lead. I feel that country fits Lisa better.
I know right? It just matches the Star Stable's vibe better. And we have to remember the og Soul Riders games aren't SSO. Lots of things' been changed, including the characters and story as well. Star Stable Online is an ongoing project and it can't stop changing, because it would just grow old. I know the updated version is different that the original Lisa, but it is kind of a new character and I don't know why people don't seem to get that? She has a different backstory, different personality also. And like, can we genuinely talk about her as a separate creation and stop crying about how it's different than the previous version? Yes, it is. Doesn't mean it's absolute trash though.
Alternative people can also like horses, it's very discriminatory to exclude an entire aesthetic from being able to like horses, there are so many other country characters we just wanted ONE to represent us.
Everyone: *Sees Lisa get turned into a different race and is totally fine with it because it's latinex* Eleanor: *Changes her back to exactly what she used to look like but better* Everyone: OMG U CHANGED HER RACE OMFGGhdkd Imagine if Lisa was originally Latinex but then they changed her to white, the community would be in an uproar 😂 But seriously, when does Lisa's race EVER have something to do with the story? They never bring up the history or culture in her family of her latinex heritage in the game (I don't really read the books so I could be wrong here) If anything it seems like they were pandering to try and make themselves look like a "very loving all-inclusive game!!11" Need I point out, that the aesthetic of emo and rockstars, in general, have almost always been linked to pale skin since the culture developed from mainly white teenagers. Sometimes things aren't about race, sometimes they're about the person and what the person represents when it comes to their core. At Lisa's core, we used to see a powerful girl who wanted to rock n roll and fight for her horse. But she was just an emo teenager from America like many other kids, who wanted to get into horses again but was afraid to. She eventually developed enough as a character that she learned to fight for Jorvik AND got her dream horse. Now she... sings country? for Jorvik? And heals? Idk... The core of Lisa has changed. And I miss the old Lisa too.
Fair, but they did attempt to create more diversity, idk why she had to become a country bumpkin though, if she was ethnic and also alternative, that would be a bigger reach and would allow more diversity. I don't care if she's white or not I just wish she had her same fashion. They did a good job diversifying Linda but she's an overly obsessive fangirl now which does not match her character at all.
Yeah, I mean part of the reason why I like the old one better is nostalgia, but I can also relate to her so much more than the current Lisa. Who you can relate to is a very individual thing, so I definitely see why a lot of people prefer the new version of her. But they do feel to me like two completely different characters (I actually can't think of a single character trait that they have in common), and I think it would be nice if we had both of them in the game instead of having one replace the other. Sadly that won't happen though 😕 (hence me being salty about her 🙈)
She grow up, so she look like this There she was 15 now she is 17 and her hair are different and her style is total different So you now it's good change
I can say the change from ‘punk’ Lisa to ‘cowgirl’ Lisa was honestly a shock. I would have loved to see some backfill on how she went from the rockstar she was to this country girl.
Same! I was looking at some early concept art the other day, and I found some personality sketches of her. In those sketches she actually had her new hair and old personality. When I looked at those I felt like she definitely could have rocked the new hair, but I don't understand why they changed her personality last minute 🤔 there are also some alternative outfits for her, and most of them kept the punkish style at least to some degree. And then there's the music. How did they look at the most rocked out character and go, "ah, yes, acoustic country would suit her"? I really do wonder how this happened 😭
What Lisa COULD have looked like .... Eleanor is still VERY angry PS i love how you made lisa but sso (soul riders) has a tom boy already .... MAKE ALEX A GIRLY GIRL :D Jk jk
i feel like, just my opinion, they made her like this because this turned into a kids game. the game is focused on the 9 year olds playing this, then the young adults and adults that play / used to play. they want to make her look "appropriate" for a kids game. I liked the old Lisa better.
There's a quest that literally has a kissing scene :^) and her style's inappropriate?! She's not even showing skin. I don't understand why shouldn't kids see alternative clothing then...
@@saltykitty9215 He meant that it's inappropriate for Karens who think Punk-rock is satanic, yeah some parents are just dumb and are afraid this kind of music style would pervert their children so maybe SSO didn't want to take risks.
You kinda went all dark, but I think Lisa would have changed a little. Like no spikes on the boots bc she cares about her horse and the spikes might hurt the horse, a maybe a different hair style but still keeping it short? And, why the change of skin colour? Edit: I saw you made more hair styles and jacket colours! I like the one with the blue jacket’s hair, and I like the green jacket as an outfit!
Good point - I didn't even think about the shoe spikes being impractical for riding 🤔 the original Lisa had white skin and green eyes, and I wanted to make it as accurate as possible, so that's why I changed it 👍🏻 I'm glad you liked it 😁😁😁
Jessica or Sabine next and I love that Lisa what you make her look. Okay every cosplayers * clap hands together * let's cosplay Eleanor's Lisa Peterson :D
I love the way you recreated her, I wish they would give her her punky style back and not change her DNA to a different eye colour and skin tone than she was.
The edit looks amazing!! But, in my opinion, I love the new Lisa! Everything about her is perfect to me and she still looks cool too and soft at the same time. She is more real to me, the old Lisa seemed a bit not so real, she reminded me of a Bratz character (all of them did) so ya, I prefer their new designs (Yes I did play Starshine Legacy and I still prefer their new designs over their old)
I loved the old models but I still love the new characters but I still wish Lisa had a more funkier, rocker vibe that she used to have in Starshine Legacy and earlier Star Stable before the update.
This looks rly good! I personally like the old Lisa's personally better, but she was also very bumpy x) and this looks like a new, more mature Lisa that I wish came to be! I like the new Lisa don't get me wrong, but this I feel like is a grown-up Lisa. Not a new Lisa. Idk. Just my thoughts
I like the new Lisa. She’s from Texas and grew up in the country so yea her new look makes more sense. You can’t run around on a a day to day. Basis. Looking like you’re going to a concert. I think Anne’s oufit should be more casual like the rest of the girls.
Well, the thing is she left her town to be a rockstar, like ofc she didn't have to look like she was going to a concert but she doesn't have to look like a country bumpkin either.
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This is what I'd want if we had this Lisa: Lisa - Lightning Circle Alex - Sun Circle Anne - Star Circle Linda - Moon Circle (I couldn't change it, she fits it the best)
Now because I enjoy ticking people off and getting hate comments 🙄 I’m going to express my opinion: I like the SSO redesign better. No offense to you or anyone else, (although I know many of you are offended by that) the punk rocker look just isn’t my style. And yes I’m aware that 99% of SSO players think I’m wrong. 😂 Seriously though, great job. 👏🏻
Thank you ❤ new Lisa is good and everyone who prefers her is ultimately the winners here cause that's the official version 🤷♀️ the community just has very split opinions on it, and that's fine. Thank you for being respective 😊❤
