What Makes an Arceus Type Bad? 

Arceus-Steel (Arceus-Flying)

You forgot to mention that e killer can also hold a different item since it doesn’t need the plate which is very helpful

freezai talking about something i didn't think i gave a shit about is an instant click

Arceus-Flying with the nickname "Arceus-Steel"

you know you're strong when your best counters are different versions of yourself

I like how the literal God of everything cannot command wind to remove some random rocks, hazards really are god tier threats

Arceus is such a cool pokemon. you can build an ubers team without it, then you can just slap in an arceus to patch any holes it has. It’s amazing in how versatile it can be

At least Extreme-killer Arceus has remained pretty consistent over the years, especially in Gen 9 where it can use the Tera-Normal extremespeed combo

Arceus Normal also has access to an item which makes it so versatile.

Watching stone edge miss every time you talk about it has me dying laughing. Fuck that move.

7:42 Arceus-ground was lost

I play the Ubers UU tier, and some forms are insanely good in the format. We only have Normal, Ground, and Fairy banned via usage, and the majority of the banned mons are Arc forms. Arceus Water, Steel, and Flying were banned for being way too good defensively, and Arceus Ghost and especially Fire were extremely strong offensively, mainly due to them being very good Ekiller forms without Normal being around. Currently Arceus isn't super common, Arc Dark being the most used for utility purposes.

All forms are equal…but some forms are more equal than others.

Pretending that Body Press Cosmic Power Stored Power Fighting Arceus doesn't exist.

E-Killer is love, E-Killer is life

You know, there IS one more form of Arceus, but it's locked behind its signature item in its own game. Yup, I'm talking the Legend Plate which you get once you complete the Hisui Dex and defeat/catch Arceus. Here's what the Legend Plate does: When given to Arceus, it starts as a Normal-Type. The twist is that when using Judgement, Arceus will automatically change its type to whatever is super-effective against the target. I'm just saying...if we have to live with Calyrex-Shadow going Tera Fairy, why not implement the Legend Plate in the mainline games to let Arceus change its type every time it uses Judgement? It might be too much for Ubers, but with Ubers specifically, I say screw order, I want chaos!

I love him showing stone edge/rockslide and it missing while being good options with Ground. XD

8:42, ground is still hidden lmao

I had literally no idea how complicated Arceus would be in singles.

One thing I always found a bit funny about Arceus is that it has the stats for a gameplay niche we don’t see much. Which is a fast wall. Fast Pokémon usually are super frail and defensive Pokémon usually not fast. While you can EV some defensive mons to be a bit faster and some fast Pokémon to be a bit sturdier, they will still lag behind in these categories next to Pokémon more dedicated to these niches. Arceus is the only one that can do both and not underperform in either stat when compared to other Pokémon of similar strength.

Something interesting to mention is that in gen 7, z-crystals also changed arceus’ type, giving it access to a z-move, but at the cost of not having the 20% type boost from the plate. although idk if any did use it because i didn’t play Ubers back then, it’s just something i found on my own.

I love how the types fit into their theming Fairy being a trickster, spreading status and being a lil goober Ground being strong and offensive, using rocks to jts advantage Then theres just water who likes the burn. Dammit

>Says and talks about Stone Edge >Actually shows Rock Slide >Doesnt matter, still misses LMAO

As someone who's a very casual player, I've always wondered this myself. Good video!

"take a look at the world around you" Immediately starts to cry 😭 "an pick the best Arceus" How will that help? 😢

May we worship and wait for the move judgement to land to bring us to Salvation. Praise Arceus

To elaborate on the part of good forms depending on the meta, Arceus-Fire is far from the best in singles Ubers, only being oppressive in Ubers UU where many of its would-be answers are banned by usage. However, in Doubles Ubers, the power of the Koraidon-Groudon core makes Arceus-Fire one of the best forms, where its natural bulk, utility and access to a strong sun-boosted spread move in Heat Wave make it the perfect partner for the dual sun setters. It helps that Kyogre is at its lowest point due to the presence of both bike dragons who resist its Water moves and either replace its rain with sun (without having to get out immediately or Tera on the rain like Groudon) or threaten to OHKO it or force a Tera, on a move that nothing that isn't immune wants to take either, making sun-boosted Fire STAB harder than ever to withstand.

Great vid as usual, Freezai! I just wanted to say, though - you've used the same asset for the DRAGON type many videos now, and each time it has the D a bit black and a black bar across the A... is that intentional, or a mistake? I don't get it... (sorry if this seems like a nitpick)

There's something funny to me about saying Stone edge twice but both times it's rock slide missing

Another thing that helped arceus ghost was that it used to check ekiller

Arceus Fire was busted in UbersUU!!

Im kinda honored that i was subbed to you when you still had the subs in the hundreds 😅 you came a long way

It’s been cool to hear your voice change over time

Good work algorithm

Makes sense steel is bad, since its such a defensive type and the dominant meta in gen 9 is offense

Arceus is so interesting for being pretty fast, insanely bulky, and slightly underpowered compared to other mons in ubers, which is funny considering it has the same base stat across the board

would love a video abt random moms that saw OU stints bc of an obviously broken mon (houndoom at beginning of gen 9 etc)

thanks for the video

I don't know if I'll get an answer to this but I have a question. Arceus-Water is A on the viability rankings (with stuff like Arceus-Normal, Eternatus, and Kyogre), but when looking at it's actual usage it's down in 36th place with 2.6% (around mons like Ditto, Giratina-Altered, and Terapagos). Why is it considered on-par or even better than pokemon in the top 10-20 in the tier when it's usage actually sits around pokemon that are C- ranked or worse?

What made you use the shiny palkia sprite towards the end of the video but the normal dialga?

8:18 The Psychic type has left the chat:

A few years ago I used the "Arceus we have at home," Silvally, in Gen VIII VGC and Grass was actually one of its best forms (before Rillaboom got its hidden ability of course). It really shows how metagame changes which Plate... or Memory is best.

Did you name some of your Pokémon after the street fighter 6 ost????

I love watching RU-vid videos about niche meta games that I’ll probably never involve myself with!

Did the thumbnail change or is freezai using the feature where you can choose two thumbnails? I really liked the artwork one.

In a similar vein, it'd be cool for you to go over what makes a Tera type good or bad for a Pokemon. I still find that confusing sometimes.

If a type can be good as a mono type it can be a good arceus. The metagame is also a factor. A bigger one really. Even Arceus bug could be good in the right circumstances. That being said I can't imagine electric arceus ever being good. Ground is just way too prevelant.

Funny how Normal Arceus is just peak any and every time.

Do you have the same editor as MoxieBoosted? This style is familiar lol

For anyone wondering what's the song at 8:20 it's Isekai by Rj Pasin.

I rhink one extra mention for why arceus-normal is so good is because it can hold an extra item. Idk how the damage multiplier for plates work (stab + plate boost?), but normal can let you carry whatever other items you want. Life orb is a pretty great example since it also boosts ypur other attacks

Arceus Dark Tera Normal is good against Calyrex Shadow. When you terastallize to Normal you are immune to Astral Barrage, you could run coverage to hit Calyrex with Psyshock if its Tera Fighting or Sludge Bomb for Tera Fairy.

Arceus-Grass is arguably the best form imo. It's been the best utility 'mon in Ubers for well over 10 years now, and it's always useful. Aromatherapy, Grass being a decent typing, Healing, Will-o-wisp/T--wave support, Defog, Roar, Calm Mind tank potential. It's just amazing. Gen 6-7 Arceus-Grass and Groudon core made such a nice balance sweep shutdown core that Weezing was slotted onto the team and if played properly, you had 0 losing matchups. Xerneas got hard-walled, Mega Mewtwo got rolled, Yveltal lost to Will-o+Weezing...it was just great. Idk you can't go wrong with Arceus-Grass.

It’s also worth mentioning that in past gens with smeargle the grass type’s spore immunity can be handy

Power creep getting so crazy that it wouldn't surprise me if in a Gen or two, an Arceus form dropped to OU

Kirby air ride music I think it might be music from another Kirby but I remember it from Kirby air ride

Poor Shaymin Sky, I remember almost always using it in Ubers, since besides Arceus it was the only other Grass type in there, and it was nice to outspeed Darkrai with it. Ubers Jirachi flinching, if only it could be 130 speed now.

Use either the good or bad plates if you want a good or bad form arceus. Hope this helps

What about the plate that makes it op because it changes the form that is super effective?

When picking a type you can also think about what moves that type Arceus *could* have. It’s got 120 in every stat, if you use a type that has a build using both Attack or Special Attack. Like how Galarian Rapidash was back in SwSh, if you choose the right type they have no way of knowing whether to switch in a Special wall or a Physical wall. If you choose for example Normal, there’s no thinking needed, they know what you’re doing. Arceus has equal SpAtk and Atk, so if you take everything out, like team preview back then; there’s no way of knowing which they are.

Lots of weird editing problems in this one: Errors and glitchy textures on the type nameplates, silhouettes fading back out during transitions but not ALL of them (Arc:Ground keeps vanishing), just a lot of funky stuff. Neat topic, but the production is definitely down.

11:58 freezai misspelled something point and laugh

I do have to wonder, would Ubers be more balanced if virtually every team didn’t have access to an Arceus teamslot? I know about the whole “Farceus” situation in Gen 4, but even then it eventually still got banned there. Speaking from experience I feel like E-Killer and now Dragon Dance warp the meta too much.

It’s ark-eus. As in, arcane + deus. Which means an unknowable deity.

You said Steel resisted Dark and Steel instead of Dark and Ghost in gen 5

I was always partial to Dark Type Arceus. During the 3DS days, I ran a defensive Calm mind sweeper, with Refresh for getting rid of status. I was disappointed when they axed it.

Is this Moxie Boosted's alternate channel or what lmao you have the exact same layout and editing style

Noticed a few little weird visual things in the editing. They probably weren't too distracting for most people, but hopefully Freezai's style becomes easier for this editor if they continue working together.

Arent the usage stats Mirai 63, Korai 62, Necro 45, Zacian 34, Arc-Normal 34, Arc-Ground 26, which purs Arc in total at a min usage of 60 percent?

10:14 there is a bug in your poison type name plate the white text inside did not transfer and you can see the background thru it

Love how the example footage for stone edge was a miss 😂

05:52 the day shaymin sky drops from ubers is the day the meta game has been powercrep passed hell

3:50 Im not a competitive pokemon player so i could be completely missing the point here, but if arceus normal is so strong that every team needs to be ready for it, why is it (relatively) so low in pick rate? Why isnt everyone using it if its thats strong? Are the other pokemon also that powerful or is there something else that I'm not taking into account?

Arceus Flying? Asking because I'm curious about that Ground Immunity

I like that every time you mentioned Rock Slide you show it missing xD

So you mentioned that Arceus forms got nerfed for later Gens, but did simulators like showdown show the Arceus type for previous Gens like Gen 5? I never played Ubers when I was younger and played SMOGON. I was always an OU player so I'm not sure. However I've actually recently been starting to regret not playing Ubers like DPP Ubers and Gen 5 Ubers. I've been thinking of going back and messing around with older Ubers formats

I wonder about the types Freezain didn't mention, like Fire, Flying, or Ice.

Yes

God, i hadn't even considered the metagame implications of Arceus being able to Terastalize. So in a pinch, you can flip it to a completely different type against something intended to counter it, or gain STAB on a coverage move but switch it to a type with better resistances. Or have really busted Extremespeeds

Iceus not mentioned?? or did I just miss that part

Is the music from Digimon TCG?

Never forget Arceus-Steel

Im waiting to see how many times Freezai changes the name of this video while it sits in my watch later

Idk if I’m the only one, but I want Z-moves to come back. And Arceus was able to run it too with its Multitype, which was cool. An OP mechanic Pokemon even straight out banned was type-gems where a move did 1.3 or 1.5 times (i forget which) on the first move of that type.

Good video, but the music felt a little too loud at the end

So this video is now the reason I find out Eternatus is Poison-Type... Weird

I thought this said arceus type beat and I was ready for some heat

I have been playing since gen 1, but my first shiny was a shiny spinda in ORAS(gen 6). I got a shiny no other person have xD

Arceus psychic here we go

wait what happens to judgement when Arceus Tera’s to stellar?

The 4th factor in Arceus type viability, much like megas its taking up your Arceus slot. A lot of these types would be more usable if you didnt have the opportunity cost of losing on Fairy or Ekiller for using them

So would Arceus be nearly the only mon ever if species clause was removed

6:20 Ho-oh can try and take on calm mind arceus, but it would lose to the psychical stone egde: **The attack misses**

freezai in lc open!

That ending was inspirational

Archeus-Stellar

Can you do a video on why fighting types were so good in gen 7 little cup

I used to use steel arc back in gen 6. I used cosmic power with toxic and willowisp. And I'd say "stall god is above this futile squabble"

But how good is Arceus-steel (Areceus-flying)?

Holy shet chilll with the ads