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The song sounds familiar almost like the song Spooky which was more or less a cover by Atlanta Rythm Section originally done by the Classic IV with the same guitarist in both bands. Your either reversing the last two notes or playing a different note.
You forgot or neglected the real question of how many people would actually wanna buy this guitar I'd say maybe five people in the whole world so yeah kinda rare but who really gives a rip about this guitar.
Trogly, just for future reference it's CURE-ESS-OWW. I mean it's possible that I only know that because I proudly said it the way you did to a native once. But hey... Just letting you know. Haha. Love your channel man.
The reason for the 9 hole weight relief is because Frampton’s 54 was exceptionally light…hard to source exceptionally lightweight mahogany for a non limited production.
The song is "Spooky" by The Atlanta Rhythm Section with the late great Barry Bailey on lead guitar, more than likely playing his beloved Les Paul during the recording of that cool tune. R.I.P. Barry.
A three pickup custom has been a dream of mine since almost I started. Saw Keith's on the Rock & Roll Circus film and adored the look since. Thanks for documenting this one Troggo!
I got one of these at release - very early serial number. I do have the cream poker chip but only got the brass toggle switch tip. Mine is a fantastic playing and sounding guitar and very happy to have it for about a year now.
TRUE FACT - my parents still live a few doors up from Peter Frampton's childhood home in the South East London suburbs. Local boy, David Bowie used to play with him at school. Plus Peter's dad was David's art teacher.
Hello, back in 1975 I bought a '71 triple and turned it into a Frampton clone. The tech at the store showed me the diagram for that wiring, told me I could get "H'bucker strat" tones out of it, so I had it done. Kept it for a year and found I didn't have a use for it, so I sold it like a fool for $550 w/OHSC. Then I saw this and now I'm really kicking myself. Oh well, such is life.
Reminds me of my $500 68 Dodge Coronet 440 story. I sold it for junk because I blew the transmission and couldn't fix it. Today, they sell for upwards of $20,000.
@@timhallas4275 I had a $400 Dodge Charger that I restored in '75. It was a '68 with a hemi, the guy didn't want know what he had. Wish I had that one back for sure.
I wired my 2 Pickup Les Paul Custom as always out of phase in the middle position. Since the "out of phase" effect is dependant on each pickup's signal you can infinantly vary the amount of "out of phase" sound by adjusting the volume controls. When both controls are set the same the effect is very pronounced, adjust one of the volumes up or down and the effect is reduced. I'm using an early pair of single lead Burstbuckers, I had to modify one of them by adding an independant ground ground lead while isolating the pickup's winding ground, not difficult to do at all. I got the idea from watching "The Riff w Nik Sevigny" as he wired his Korina Flying V the same way.
I have one of the limited run by Epiphone in 2019. It's a fantastic guitar. I have played one of the Gibson's and the only difference I noticed in my opinion the neck profile is a little thinner on the Epiphone which seems to fit what Frampton has noted about the neck being sanded by the previous owner. The body of the original was also sanded to make it about an 1/16-1/8 of and inch thinner. Mine came with the cream poker chip and cream switch cap. Since I could not afford the Gibson I went with the Epiphone version and I was not disappointed. It plays great with some unique tones.
I got one too… But I’m being kind of a dick about it. Because I purchased it as an investment. I mean I really felt that when I saw that it was being offered I could hardly stop myself. It’s really quite a beautiful guitar. With a flawless finish. But I’m just sitting on it. Which is kind of a sin.
I've got an Antoria Les Paul custom black beauty circa around 1975, bought it for £25 in 1995. Seeing as they were sued by Gibson I assume it's a pretty close copy. Antoria morphed into Ibanez so not to be sniffed at, sounds good, plays well with an ultra low action. I fitted a brass nut and new Seymour Duncan pick ups about five years ago with a custom wiring loom that enabled coil tapping, get some neat sounds out of it, jazzy to head banging.
I also have the 2018 Epiphone Phenix Black Beauty! Probley the loudest guitar in my collection, love the chambered body and wiring is fabulous with very exotic tones! The finish is flawless, with the ebony fretboard make this guitar top of the rock! Thanks Pete.
@@vmax4steve524 That's great. I had never heard of Antoria guitars. Apparently while they were made in the FuiGen factory in Japan where Ibanez guitars were also made in the 70's they were not part of the Ibanez brand. Here is what I found on the internet. I still have my 1976 Ibanez LP copy and even against either one of my real Gibson Les Paul's, the Ibanez copy is still great. Mine is very naturally relic'd from years of extensive road gigs, but still a great playing guitar. Your Antoria should be just like it in imagine since it came out of the same factory at the same time. Here is what I found. "The Antoria brand consisted of Guyatone-made guitars exported to the UK from Japan. Hank Marvin played an Antoria LG50 prior to Cliff Richard buying him his more famous Fender Stratocaster. Jeff Beck played one,[2] as did Big Jim Sullivan when he was playing with Marty Wilde.[3] They were imported by James T. Coppock (Leeds) Ltd and Charles Summerfield Ltd.[4] Some Antoria guitars may have been manufactured in Bavaria, Germany, by Framus.[5] In the 1970s, Antoria imported guitars made in the FujiGen factory, which also manufactured Ibanez guitars. Later, production shifted to Korea, where, among other models, an imitation Gibson ES-335 was made (a model also sold under the Harmony brand).[6] James T. Coppock ceased trading in the early 1980s and Antoria guitar production ceased. Then, probably in the 1980s, John Lawson acquired the brand and distributed guitars using the name until 2006.[citation needed] In January 2007, the Antoria brand was purchased by Adam Hall Limited, and then in 2010 by Tim Gentle Music of Stockton-on-Tees. The new Antoria electric guitars are manufactured in South Korea, and their acoustic and electro-acoustic guitars in China.[4]"
'Spooky' by the Altanta Rhythm Section is the name of the song, Austin...This is why I don't understand how some put down signature guitars. Most of the time, this is the only way you get special pups, wiring, wood, finshes, etc....Loved this vid! I'd love to see this with gold pup covers!
" Not anything too cool, so dont get your Hope's up." Dang. I kind of figure that's one of the coolest guitar's you have had on the show. The subjective nature of taste. -* was corrected. His comment was in regard to the Factory defects, not the attractive nature of the beautiful instrument*-
I just watched the Frampton Phenix video on his channel for the first time. What an awesome story. Gibson really did it right the way they put that guitar back together. It's nice to see how insanely happy he is to have his guitar back. Good feels.
The neck was shaved down on Peters and I love mine. The sound combos you can get are amazing. Blending the middle etc. I use to own a 1970 Black and Gold Custom two pickup and I like this Frampton much more and the neck is easier to play.
One cool, rare but fairly cheap, all mahogany Les Paul is the "2002 Gibson Les Paul Standard Mahogany 3 Pickup Seymour Duncan Limited Edition" it's as it sounds all mahogany and has 3 Seymour Duncan pickups stock. So if you want that '54/Frampton thing but with Standard specs and different finish it's a neat guitar!
Very lovely thingy! Retired, don't have the money..(Hell, even when I HAD the money never had that much lying around....more of a Fender/SG/Rick kind of guy....) but this is so pretty!!!! Might have to try and replicate one....a fun winter project! Thanks, Troggo! PS. At some point, even us old power pop or punk wannabes can appreciate Mr. Frampton.Rock on, Peter!
i wanted a fender custom shop hard tail stratocaster body with a thick aaa+ maple top on a mahogany since ide never seen one made that way like a les paul kinda. but the price for custom one off was astounding! so i kept an eye out for the right wood and made it at home myself! it turned out great! i built myself a guitar i couldn't otherwise ever afford! and here i am 20 something yrs later and i still play it evry day!
Interesting wiring. I have a '94 Custom which converted to a Steve Clark 3-pickup signature. Was never 100% sure about the way he had his wiring on that particular guitar, but it's set up with a master tone and 3 individual volumes. It was a dream project of mine which I was super happy to have finally achieved.
Evening Austin! I look forward to ending my day relaxing watching your video. I hope your day went well! I'm happy to see your resurgence of interesting in playing the guitar, you said you wanted to begin improving your skills but I have to laugh, you sound great to me but I am such a terrible rookie. I enjoy listening to you play!
Uh-huh, the 'mystery riff' your were playing sounds like 'Spooky' by a group called Classics Four. The ARS DOES do a fabulous cover version of the song I will admit, but Classics Four recorded and released the original version! A great song to cruise to in a classic car with the ragtop down on a warm summer evening...
Seems like just wiring a volume pot and neck+bridge and have another volume pot for the middle pickup. Then you can get middle only by just turning down the neck+bridge volume.
I'm sure this guitar was bought by Trogly from Gibson, but is it common for the new center pickup 6:28 to have a ripped label on it's underside? It also had no shielding paint. Did they model it exactly after Peter's original and resliced it exactly while leaving the cream colored poker chip off? I'm overthinking in circles, it appears.
Treddart is correct about the weight relief. Without access to Honduran Mahogany it's the only way to get the weight ight. I don't know about yours, but mine had the Ace wiring before I had it converted to Frampton wiring. You could only get the bridge and middle pickup in the middle position. There was no way to get the bridge and neck together, which is why I had it done. But it's a '76. I guess it like you said now. But I'm thinking of adding a phase reverse to the middle knob.
Mark Mariana did all the modifications to the original guitar and gave it to Frampton when he was in Humble Pie because of the feedback issues Frampton was having when he turned up the volume for solos.
I’ve got a 2016 PF that I bought used and I’m just slightly obsessed with them after having it now for a year or two. I’m surprised at how chunky the neck is on this one that you have. Mine is considerably thinner I believe but now I’m going to have to measure it.
So, you’d said the middle position is typically the bridge and the bottom position is typically both the bridge and middle pickup and I believe you misspoke as you’ve said it correctly in the past. My R7 Custom 3 pickup is wired with the top being the neck pickup, middle being both middle and bridge pickups and the bottom position being just the bridge pickup. Also, something I’ve never seen you comment on is the differences between guitars wired with PIO(paper in oil) caps like the bumblebees in this one vs those wired with the ceramic disk caps like the modern Customs.
I'm gonna guess that the reason the middle only "position" sounds different with the flicking of the toggle switch has to do with the polarity of the pickups. Since it would be in phase, out of phase, or both, it would change the sound regardless if the other pickups were active.
As you say 3 pickup customs do have a unique sound. And this set up is the only factory wiring apart from the late 50s Switchmaster ones that allow you to get all those different combinations. Definitely this wiring (how Frampton's original was wired when he got it btw) has given Frampton his individual sound on those classic 70s recordings.
Now I want to rewire the 2004 Ace Chibson I have. It has old Dimarzios and old bumble bee caps, just need to try this wiring if I can find the schematic. Thanks for the cool demo.
Its a cool story behind the original guitar, if i was willing to spend 7k on a guitar that would probably be the one. But i really liked the story you told about the father amd son who worked at gibson in the 70s and had those les pauls with the killer one piece tops. Stories like that are interesting to me and i enjoy hearing them.
Too many versions of this guitar around even though I love the history and look that id ever invest in one. And the middle pickup is just in the way for me to play just like the ace frehley ones
My dads friend got one of these , got to play it last weekend. Pretty slick guitar but the middle pickup gets in the way of the pick/ my fingers when playing
I’ve got the Epiphone 61 Les Paul Custom (SG shape) with 3 pickups & a Burny 3 pickup Jimmy Page Black Beauty Les Paul, I keep the middle pickups set a bit lower to avoid that problem, works for me!
Very good point. I have always wondered why the pickup plastic rings are so white on my Phenix … haha … Gibson even tarnished the gold hardware for vintage look.
The guy that did the original mods and gave him that guitar did all kinds of sanding on the neck and body which reduced the weight. He may have even chambered some of the body. That’s why the Phenix is light. Frampton does an interview about a lot of the details. You need to watch it because your missing much of the story of the actual modifications the guy did before Peter got it.
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That thing is awesome, although for 7k, I'd try and get an Alpine white 84 explorer whether it be a Gibson or an Epiphone. I'd get other guitars as well, but that Les Paul still is sick tho.
wow......... PF Fan since '71 with Humble Pies "Rockin' The Fillmore" Saw him like 3 times at Winterland (yep DYFLWD) and DOG with 'Skynyrd in '77. Spin "Its A Plain Shame" from FCA. Rules.
