What Makes Super Paper Mario A Paper Mario 

Super Paper Mario to me, was indeed the last TRUE Paper Mario game. People like to knock it down for it's gameplay, but let's be honest, if it played exactly like TTYD it would EASILY top TTYD. It has a better story, better villians, better music, better everything. The only reason TTYD always comes on top is because that game has better gameplay.

I feel the story in super paper mario is the best story and the gameplay is different but it’s a nice change of pace

Super Paper Mario would actually be a very good conclusion to the series.

Super Paper Mario is an OC-insert fanic story, and I love it for that.

Super Paper Mario is the example of how different can still be great with Paper Mario. Nintendo doesn't understand that.

I couldn't agree more.

This was my first paper Mario game so I’m a bit biased, but I loved this game. The gameplay was so different than any game I was use to and it had amazing writing.

Wonderful review of Super Papar Mario I really liked this game. Nice to see a fair and balanced review of it.

1: The formula for the game isn't objectively ass like SS onward. 2: It has the same if not better level of quality in terms of its story compared to 64 and TTYD. 3: The characters don't have that goddamn white outline. 4: It has unique, likeable characters, including partners (even if they kinda suck honestly).

Lol I remember giving up on chapter 5 because I didn’t spell please in all caps.

Hint. It’s NOT the name.

People hate Super Paper Mario because it's not an RPG which is stupid, just because a game is different from a previous entry, doesn't mean it's bad

Super Paper Mario was Undertale before Undertale even existed.

Technically, if you’ve played 64 and TTYD long enough and know the strats, SPM is the hardest of the three because of danger Mario.

I paid that guy 150 coins so you would have to say please

i get angry when people say that super was the last game with exp colour splash had exp too damnit!

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Super is the only paper mario game I've played

In my opinion Paper Mario Thousand Year Door is better then Super Paper Mario BUT BUT I think Super Paper Mario is better then the first Paper Mario Paper Mario 64. Paper Mario Thousand Year Door fixed many flaws what Paper Mario 64 had and I would say Super Paper Mario is the second best Paper Mario game we have ever got.

Fans:paper Mario's first to games 5 stars Nintindo: ••• uh, oh I have an idea! If we can't top thousand year door then•••you get this! (Makes super paper mario) Me: best game #1 game this is actually my 3rd favorite mario game out of every mario game mario and luigi is (in my opinion) better Fans:HUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHH! NINTENDO YOU BETRAYED ME!!!

You're not going to like this. I'm not a fan of Super Paper Mario and kinda do lump it more in line with the "bad" games, and I do see it as the start of the downfall of the series. Story and antagonists, the game is great! But everything else...not so much. I don't like how the characters are based on geometric shapes. The gameplay is allover the place and feels experimental and gimmicky for the sake of it. There's no reason to use Peach and Luigi, and just stick with Mario and use Bowser to cheese through the game. The Pixls besides Tippi act more as gimmicky items than partners and have no personality, and the one you're going to stick with is Carrie. Bowser + Carrie and maybe an item to boost attack equals a perfect means to blitz though enemies and bosses. Super Paper Mario feels too gimmicky for my liking. It probably has to do with it being on the Wii, but still, I would've preferred the game to be more in line with the first two. It just throws all these experimental ideas at you when the game doesn't really need all of them, especially when some of the ideas are hardly used. It's better than Sticker Star and Color Splash, but I can't give it anything higher than a 6/10.

Can we just mention how amazing this game's ost. Like holy hell this game had like artistic levels of soundtrack. And if you really don't like super paper Mario, just at least play through chapter 6, trust me... you will not regret it.

I remember playing Super Paper Mario as my first Paper Mario. Didnt knew about TTYD or the original back then. But when I played it, it was magical. A Mario game with a great story and good gameplay? I was hooked! I loved the story. It was the first game that put a tear in my eye. It was and still is a good game! I hope Nintendo changes their perspective on the series just to remind them why Paper Mario was a series in the first place

What makes Super Paper Mario Paper Mario: it has Paper Mario in the title.

I've always loved SPM. When I first played it, my only other Paper Mario was TTYD so I just kinda assumed they always had new gameplay but had more involved stories. And I was just as obsessed with its characters and story on my first playthrough as I was with TTYD. In fact at this point the story has put SPM on top for me. With how long that game spent as the most recent game, it left a lot of time to speculate on how they could possibly top its story. A lot of time to form a wild imagination about where they could go next. We know how that turned out :(

In summary. Super Paper Mario was too ahead of its time and it tried to be experimental in a time when it shouldnt have been, which started us down on this path of being an experimental series. I loved the story, the characters are very fresh, and the enviroments were SOMETHING to walk through but the combat is lacking, the puzzles were lacking, the 3D gimmick was (as stated) pointless, and there is no PARTNERS!!!! Luckily the Story and dialouge CARRIED the game from start to finish. Something lacking from Sticker Star and Color Splash.

I have a 3 strikes kinda deal. Sticker star was the first strike, color splash was the 2nd strike. I still believe there will be a good paper Mario if they don’t mess up this next one.

9:04 “Chapters 3, 4, *6*, 7” Finally someone that acknowledged Chapter 6!

I will forever feel that there's nothing wrong with a game once in a while changing the gameplay style to something different for the sake of keeping things fresh so long as it keeps the core of the series intact. Zelda II and Mario 2 USA do this and are beloved by many who played it when it came out and I feel the same is true for Super. It keeps the core of the series and in my opinion the gameplay is still really fun. The levels are fun to travel through, the battles are still engaging and fun, and everything else that makes Paper Mario what it was is present in this game. I never had any problem with Merlee's mansion. I find that to be a very fun chapter to do because you can either make it tedious or have the answer right under your nose the whole time. For your first time through you aren't really going to mind the ways you earn Rubee's because you're experiencing something unique and interesting for the first time, and on later playthroughs you can either decide to do it the normal way, or skip through it all with the short cuts.

I loved this game. Got it on my birthday 10 years ago in 2008. I was a kid then. I loved it. Always has a place in my heart. Now as an adult I plan on replaying it.

I say what makes Super a Paper Mario game is the Story,Writing,and Characterization.The First Three Games stayed pretty consistent with each other on that front and I really respect them for that Compare that to the Sonic Series which has zero fucking consistency in about everything whether it would be tone,story,characters,characterization,gameplay,quality,etc.

*Half-way into the video* Wait, SPM is my favorite game of all time, why am I watching this?

If super paper Mario had the same battle system as the first two and better partners It would've definitely been my favorite in the series

To me, the most important aspect of a game is engagement; if a game engages you on some level, then it's done it's job. A game being "fun" is a form of engagement, and gameplay is a vital part of engagement, specifically how bad gameplay can sever engagement, but I don't want people to get the idea that these are the only ways to make great, memorable games. Games can be memorable and beloved without necessarily being described as being "fun to play", not to mention a game can draw you in and keep you invested even if the gameplay is unmemorable or not very interesting on it's own. Some people play games solely for fun or solely because of gameplay, and that's fine for them, but there's so much more to games than just that! At least, that's how I feel. Incidentally, it's weird that you say that many agree that Super Paper Mario has the best story of any Paper Mario game, given that Club Nintendo poll Kensuke Tanabe fell back on with regards to the changes made to the Paper Mario series, saying not even 1% played the game for the story or enjoyed the story or whatever. REALLY makes me wonder who was using Club Nintendo at the time and what the statistics were... or if, uh, he might have been, er, "fudging the numbers", so to speak?

To be fair, I actually had a good time with Super Paper Mario when I first played it even though the change in gameplay was really disappointing, but I would say it was worth the purchase. It's sad that Nintendo took the series Paper Mario, with it's turn based RPG combat and it's little charming story, and transformed the gameplay to platforming for really no reason other than to make it different. The story might be the best in the series, but that's not why I personally play videogames in the first place. An amazing story can really only be experienced once, where a great videogame can still be entertaining despite already knowing the story. I feel like what makes the first two Paper Mario games special, is that I can replay them different every time. I can equip different badges, create new challenges for myself, and figure out new tricks each time I play. Super Paper Mario sadly doesn't hold up nearly as well as the first two games. It's just so simplified and boring. The story kept me going, because it was interesting in it's own respect, but I have never wanted to replay it ever since it came out. I guess those who loved Super Paper Mario enjoyed Paper Mario for the story, where as people who liked the first two games enjoyed it for the actual videogame part of the videogame. I really like videogames. If I wanted a good story, I could just watch a movie or read a book. However, having a complex story is always good as long as it does't overshadow the gameplay. With this said, nice video as always SuperMarioT :D

Super Paper Mario was my first Paper Mario game. I haven't even played TTYD when I played Shitter Star, and I knew that it was an insult to the old Paper Marios.

This is the only Paper Mario game I played. (SS doesn’t count)

Man i should Really try to play the paper mario series. I never played them and i cant relate to any fandom. Though i once almost did the mistake of buying sticker star. You saved a life SMT. You done Good.

I still remember watching your first video when I was sick... on a 3ds

I agree tbh not to triggered Thousand Year Doors and Original Paper Mario fans but Super My Favorite Paper Mario Game. Sure it sorta different with the 2D & 3D mechanic but it still felt like the Other game I also have so Much Nostalgia over the game since it was my first Paper Mario Game

A Paper Mario game needs these six things: 1. An amazing story. 2. Character development. 3. Great & memorable characters . 4. Good protagonists & antagonists. 5. For you to have fun. 6. And most importantly, it must have a great soundtrack. Super Paper Mario had all of that, even if it wasn't an RPG. I loved it the day it came out. The story was just amazing, and it's definitely got the best story out of all five Paper Mario games. I just loved how Bowser wasn't the main villain in this game, he was one of the main heroes in this game. Also, the plot twist at the end was magnificent... I just love it when people add plot twists to the storyline. Not only that, you CAN level up and get stronger by defeating enemies. I really miss 2007; it was such a great year, and that's when Nintendo released two godly games: Super Paper Mario & Super Mario Galaxy. Let's not forget that George Carlin was still alive in 2007... Ahhhh, good times. :/

* when you ask what someone's favourite paper mario is and they say sticker star * NANI!?

Super Paper Mario was critiqued at the time because the standards set for what a Paper Mario game should be at the time of SPM's release were different than what we think how a game should be today, thanks to the release of Sticker Star and Colour Splash.

God I love the Paper Mario trilogy, for it is only a trilogy and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. It really holds a special place in my heart--that the most popular video game character of all time, known for simple, bare bones story, can create a trilogy of games that push the boundaries of what we can expect from a Mario story not once, not twice, but thrice back-to-back. Oh, and the gameplay is pretty fantastic two out of three times. That too.

Super Paper Mario will always hold a special place in my heart. I did play through it again a few months ago and I actually felt a flaw nobody else seems to mention. In terms of fighting enemys(Not counting the Pits of 100 trials) felt very easy. I took down all of the bosses with little to no effort. The enemy's didn't stand a threat either. I actually got so annoyed of this I stopped at 7-3 and never finished my replay through. That is my biggest problem personally. Everything else I can work around.

I loved SPM, and while the gameplay itself wasn't like the first 2, I found the idea of it had potential, but it just wasn't used as well as it could. I would have liked more secrets in 3D mode, and I would have liked more abilities and dangerous enemies. More bosses that required me to do more then just needing to use a jump would have been great. The last boss fight was just sad, which is a terrible shame considering who it was and the tone of the game being pretty tense for a mario game. I find SPM has the best story out of the paper mario games. As much fun as I remember thousand year door being for its writing and gameplay, I remember the characters of SPM more and its story, and the fact that it gave more character to luigi/peach/bowser. Don't get me wrong. I liked the pals you got in PM 1 and 2, but the part that sucks is that knowing what Nintendo is like, i'll never see Goombella and the rest of them again, like Geno and Mallow from Super Mario RPG. I'd rather have Luigi and characters that stay consistently in the Mario universe to have more written for them. With that being said though, i'm still bitter that Dimentio, Count Bleck, Tipi and more never made a return. Fawful from the mario and luigi series has been in several games, but besides him lucking out to a certain extent, pretty much any new characters Nintendo makes are unlikely to ever make a return appearance. I can't really expect much though. Even with the characters that have stayed around for years, they don't really do much with them in terms of character development.

I've always loved Super Paper Mario and thought it was great, despite it being a departure from the original formula. And honestly I'd much rather Intelligent Systems continued to make SPM-style games instead of the "RPG that's not an RPG"-style of the subsequent two games.

SPM was the first paper Mario game I played, so it holds a special place in my heart. It by no means is a perfect game, but it's something that means a lot to me. What makes a good game is not how it looks or what other people think, what matters is if the player is having fun. This was one of the first video games I ever played and I love going back to this game, it just came in my life at the right time.

really enjoy your content dude cant wait for more :)

in chapter 2 there are prisoners in there that will tell you the codes. I am not saying that it is great that puzzle but you don't need to look it up

The thing that matters to me the most in a Mario RPG are always story, characters they essentially give the games a heart. This is why I love SPM so much, it excelled in those areas. Pretty sad that SS and CS lacked that "heart" and good gameplay, though CS was a step in the right direction.

Super Paper Mario was a beautiful experience for 11 year old me. The story, the dialogue, and yes, the gameplay was all a wondrous ride. I think the thing that really put the cherry on top had to be the music. Even today, 6 years later, I still listen to the OST. It's so indulging and atmospheric. I could just feel the fun, bouncy nature of a world, the intense pending darkness, or the sweet, soft, and sombre moments just from the music alone. Super Paper Mario was the first game I actually decided to 100% complete. Every moment through each and every chapter just felt like a pleasure and I will always stand by my opinion when I say that Super Paper Mario is a great game.

Super was my first ever Paper Mario. I didn't care about what the past PMs played like since I only knew of the standard Super Mario gameplay. Suffice to say, the game left a major impression on me and is one of my favourite RPGs of all time. And yes, Mimi did give me nightmares.

By the way... *SUPER PAPER MARIO IS TURN-BASED! HAVE YOU SEEN THE UNDERCHOMP??????*

I absolutely love how you can pull off very convincing arguments! I can agree with most of what you have said in this video. however i do think that if the 3D meter was endless it would be cheating in my opinion however i can understand why it can be annoying considering how much your using it throughout the game. also congrats on getting a shoutout from Arlo!

I liked Super Paper Mario. The story alone makes me pop it in time to time. However, the gameplay (in my opinion) feels like a lackluster 2-D Mario platformer. As a result, it can get really boring. I also believe this game is the easiest in the series.

For those who haven't played it, Super's story and elements in worlds and design do something special in terms of Mario's adventures, at least for the time it was released. It takes risks. This was before Galaxy and near the era of the "New" series' oversaturation. This game, for how divisive it can be, did something new and different and utterly shines in its surrealist aspects and unexpected subverting of expectations. Helming it as the darkest of the Mario series, personally, this game has many different aspects that will send you through an emotional rollercoaster. For as 2D as it can be on the surface, just like its gameplay's gimmick, if you just look at it from a different perspective, the story can be dark, tragic, stinging, surreal, enticing, and totally out of sorts compared to those that came before and after it. Its an anomaly of undescribable proportions, and I owe my childhood and drive for story-telling to this game. Take that as you will.

I adore super, and it's story is by far the greatest in all the paper Mario games. The gameplay, however, definitely not the best. I feel like, no matter what paper Mario games release, this will always be 3rd best. Because, yknow, the revs confirmed Sticker Star's gameplay was what they were using going foreword. (I don't remember for certain where/when I heard this, I just remember hearing it. Sry if my info be wrong)

That issue with the Chapter 5 block "puzzle" is so understandable, but, hey, he warned you to get a piece of paper and write it down! Doesn't excuse the tedium, but he TOLD YOU!!! #CragDidNothingWrong

I agree with this. I was pretty young when I first played the game, and seeing all the things Mario did in that game blew my mind. I recently went back and played it and I still had a blast. It’s definitely my favorite Paper Mario games if not one of my favorite games period. And plus there is one thing you forgot; the soundtrack, I love it. I could go on and on but this comment is getting too long. Long story short I hate the amount of hate this game is getting.

I like this very professional video, also I don't know your opinion on color splash but you should discuss that game and the future of how the series will be

The whole analogy at the end about the kid with the broken leg? Amen to that, bro.

I really like this games puzzle solving, exploration, combat and story elements. Looking at this as a platformer, and not an RPG, it's my favorite 2D Mario game to date.

You know? If it was a 2015 indie game everyone would've loved it.

It is absolutely nuts just how ahead of its time this game is. It's like the writer grabbed a time machine, jumped 10 years into the future, and wrote the game from there. It talked about gaming media and gaming threads LONG before it was relevant. Like, how the FUCK did that happen?

Oh yeah, happy 11K by the way. Huh, that rhymed. What, you were expecting a sarcastic statement or something? ... Waluigitime.jpeg

I think Super Paper Mario is a good game. However, it's only ok in the terms of a "Paper Mario game." The closest this comes to a Paper Mario game, is in it's story, characters, and character interactions. I think it mainly suffers from mediocre gameplay. Although it may not play like a Paper Mario game, I'd say it's still better than Sitcker Star and Color Splash as those games lack an interesting story/ (interesting) gameplay. I can barely remember a thing from Sticker Star other than the amazing music and how Kamek can turn your items into flip-flops. However, I can remember various segments from Super Paper Mario such as when Mimi turned into that spider-looking thing and throws rubees, O' Chunks throwing you around followed by a little jig, MR L, and Mario falling asleep from Merlumina's non-stop talking.

SMT I get u like Super but personally I do not. I will say it’s better than Sticker Star and Color Splash. But I hope one day we will get a good paper mario game again.

Super Paper Mario is where Bowser shines for me #Bowsersarms

YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE MUSIC! The music for this game is so awesome and beautiful, especially the "Bounding Through Time" theme.

Also, random question, I’m having some trouble with the Discord App. It won’t let me type or let me get it refreshed to see who’s on. Anyone know a solution to this BS?

Arlo shouted you out dude!

The reason people doubted SPM was its gameplay shift and "weird"/"simple?" character design. We don't get to the really good stuff until 2-4 and onwards, so you basically get rewarded for sticking it out. The Bleck intro was pretty great, but the first two games set up immersive worlds which beat out the 2D Town of Flipside.

I think they just needed to add a battle system that's it!

Super paper was my first paper mario game, and it was amazing. So many things you can do, the battles you can enjoy, and so much charm! Playing as bowser was mindblowing, it was amazing in both gameplay and art style. I want another game like paper mario, with the great gameplay from 64/ttyd

ARLO SHOUTED YOU OUT BOI.

Super Paper Mario is very dear to my heart, It was actually the very first Mario game I have ever played. Now that I'm older I can see it's flaws and the middle ground I've settled on, especially after playing the first Paper Mario game is, it's not the best Paper Mario game, hell maybe it's not even a good paper mario game. But god is it an amazing game on it's own and I wish people would stop being salty about the gameplay and would just give it a chance

Nice vid I subbed

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Maybe the reason Sticker Star and Color Splash (and I guess Mario and Luigi Paper Jam ) have so many Toads is because that one Toad at the beginning of Super Paper Mario got mad at Luigi for saying "What, what's happening, why are you so crazy?" and decided to call all his Toad friends and create a Toad army and annoy Mario at all times? 😲

Anything to say about Chapter 4-2?

Super Paper Mario was basically the paper Mario game I grew up with. The stories within this he are very interesting and meaningful.

Super is my childhood....I should play it again

I adored Super paper Mario as a kid. And, I suppose that since I played through that game long before I got around to TTYD and PM64, I'm a bit nostalgia tainted, but I belive it has the most compelling cast and plot of any Mario game. It's a game with so much uniqueness to it. I honestly hope, that if Nintendo ends up indulging paper Mario fans again with games they want, that they give the classic three the remake treatment like they are with the M&L franchise. By the way, I'm a new subscriber who came over from Arlo. I like your paper Mario stuff!

spm is my favorite, because it was also the first one i could finish. it was also the first one i roleplayed from - the villains called out to me a lot.

I absolutely love super paper mario! I'm not done with the game yet but I still love how it's been so far! Just today I didn't realize I played around 8 hours of it....

I think the 3D is limited because Flipside is a place in between dimensions and Mario is basically getting crushed by the 2D wall.

Fun fact: For the majority of its development, Super Paper Mario was designed for the GameCube, but the flip-flop to Wii required it to move along to it. That's why motion-controls are almost completely absent from essential gameplay functions, and why Tippi was never used much when it came to her ability to make invisible objects visible. Both take a back seat, as it were, as motion controls would only be used for Stylish Points, a function that would be easily mapped to a button on the GameCube controller, and Tippi's "flashlight" ability being underutilized in puzzles.

SPM is indeed a decent game in it's own right, but it's held back by a couple things: 1. The 2D-3D mechanic isn't utilized as well as it should be. The meter never really bothered me (hint: use a regen item and it'll keep the meter full for a bit), but the mechanic largely boils down to "hit A if stuck", especially as the game drags on. 2. It's too easy where it shouldn't be (namely the bosses). 3. 5:13. And that's not the only instance... The charm, premise, and controls bring it up quite a bit.

Interesting many are not fond of the 3D flip mechanic, while some videos of playthrough I have found really like it due to the exploration and secrets you can hunt -- depends on the preferred playstyle I guess (and patience levels too).

I hope someone over at Nintendo, or even Intelligent Systems sees your videos. I've got my own theory as to why only 1% of the people in the survey said much about the story, once they got in and didn't like the game play it just didn't matter to them. The people who did like it may not even have filled out a survey at all. It wasn't that people didn't like, or didn't care about the story, but just that the game play changes overshadowed the story to the point of irrelevance. I personally did the survey, and put the story as the most important aspect. I also said it would have been far better if they had just done the game the same was as TTYD, but with the story left as is.

Really enjoyed this, I've only played the first two Paper Mario games and sticker star really put me off. I've always thought Super was not as good but maybe I'll give it a chance again soon.

This is my favorite Paper Mario game! First one I ever got, and really nostalgic too! I would say the Gameplay is alright, Story is AMAZING!, and Characters are pretty interesting!(Dimentio and Mr L. for Example)

“Imagine tippy getting kidnapped by an Otaku Chameleon in a world heavily reminiscent of the original super mario bros trilogy” Super Mario World: *AUTISTIC SCREECHING*

Honestly to me: 1. Super Paper Mario 2. TTYD 3. Original Paper Mario 4. Color Splash ... 2,000,000,000. Sticker Star

SPM is one of my favorite games, and I end up playing through it every summer as a little traditional thing, I might like it more than the other two just because of how easily you can flow through the game if you know what you're doing, its predecessors totally lacked quick progression which can really turn me off when it's unnecessary. I still like Thousand Year Dor so muc, and 64, but SPM just somehow suits my playstyle more I suppose? The best part about all three of the first games has to be the payoff you really get for beating them, they feel genuinely rewarding yet you also feel like you had fun the whole time playing too!

My ranking for the Paper Mario games would go like this: 1. Paper Mario Thousand Year Door (Phenomenal game and the poster boy of the series. Spot on story, fun quirky gameplay, colourful characters, need I say more) 2. Super Paper Mario (It's not perfect but gets a pass for its flaws due to still having the soul of a Paper Mario game and having a spectacular, creative, and original story) 3. Paper Mario Original (The grandaddy of Paper Mario, tons of nostalgic value along with the first great characters, it barely falls short for me because the games above did the Paper Mario factor better) 4. Paper Mario Color Splash (Disappointing I must say, Toads take over the whole game, the gameplay is pretty boring and pointless the story is underwhelming, thanks Miyamoto) 5. Paper Mario Sticker Star (We do not speak of this game)

What Super Paper Mario did right. Having the best story out of the franchise.

I'm going to be intolerant for a moment, but I can't understand how anyone dislikes SPM. Its a fantastic game, and I wholeheartedly believe it's the 2nd best PM game. The gameplay, to me, is fine. I like it, there's no strategy which is a bummer, but PM to me isn't the battling. Its the presentation. The worlds, the humor, the scenarios, the villians and everything about how each chapter is its own little story. In that regard, its only exceeded by TTYD in my honest opinion. And about the gameplay, I'm a hardcore rpg fan. And until recently, TTYD was my favorite video game ever. The badge system is great and the different builds are amazing to make and use. But that's just a plus to the locales and the citizens of these games. I'll never forget the carefree summer I spent playing SPM loving it, only to see that for some reason no one else did at the time. SPM is an amazing game, and I don't know how anyone could not like it.

9:49 Perseverance