I have a massive softspot for Frantic. So raw and full of self-loathing. "Could I have my wasted days back? Would I use them to get back on track? ... My life style determines my death style." Master of Puppets has fantastic lyrics as well. I think it's about drug addiction but it makes me think of people unknowingly letting Satan rule their lives. "Life of death becoming clearer ... chop your breakfast on a mirror. Taste me you will see, more is all you need. Dedicated to, how I'm killing you."
Master of Puppets is awesome. So much depth in those lyrics, so much meaning to unpack, and what you said about how it reflects the way people let the devil in, it's true. Sin is death, and the primal scream of "Fix me" is akin to a prayer asking to be saved from that death.
lol they are both opinionated as are you. there is no objective correctness. they also don't seem to know much about metallica's beginning for the talk about it.
Jonathan mentioned in interview he likes to pray the liturgy of the hours. There is an amazing resource on RU-vid. Sing the hours. It’s Paul Rose. Lila Roses brother. It’s beautiful and convenient and well done. I recommend to anyone looking to delve deeper into Faith!
Inamorata in the new album real good. I would agree, the albums not as hard hitting as before. Couple songs stand out whereas before the who album stood out.
@@alphacause yeah I can't listen to One, I get too much into the story. It's very well done cause you really feel all the emotions of the character, the sadness then the frantic fear. It's such a well done song.
There’s quite a few good songs throughout Load, Reload, and St. Anger, despite not being great as albums. Death Magnetic was a great return to form and has one of my favorite Metallica songs (All Nightmare Long). However, I’d have to agree-they definitely peaked with MOP and AJFA.
@@JohnAugustine-Music Death Magnetic was good, Load and Reload also had some bangers, although I would strongly disagree with St Anger, that album was trash. Lulu was even worse lol
It seems like a missed opportunity that a discussion on Metallica, on a Catholic channel, does not cover their well known song "Unforgiven". Given that a central theme of our faith deals with forgiveness, it would be interesting to have a conversation that compares how that song expresses feelings of oppression, as a result of being indebt to our transgressions, with the way our faith talks about forgiveness.
There’s a sense of complete power, and self control from being able to sit alone listening to the peace of rainfall, with a single glass of a good drink and just sitting and sipping it while watching the rain and thinking. Not feeling social pressure. Having control of my drink and myself, and just being at peace with things.
I may not listen to Metallica regularly any more, but I do appreciate whenever Matt brings them up. They're incredible musicians with an uncanny knack for displaying vulnerability in ways that other musicians can't or don't. So much good stuff in the early albums. Some of the songs off 72 Seasons have some deeply personal meaning, as well. Inamorata is one such example. We complain about what makes us miserable, and yet we feel we need that very thing for some twisted reason, as if our identity is tied up in that thing. Back in their earlier days, of course, we have Dyer's Eve, the angry outburst of frustration with the way one was raised, the wounds that are left, and the pain that erupts every time someone strays too close. It's heavy, it's fast, and it's raw. For me, though, The Outlaw Torn is the most emotionally heavy. Grief, sadness, pain, guilt, all bound up in this wailing cry from the depths of the soul.
Wow! We definitely need more metal talk, because that's one of the few current genres that I feel has the greatest crossover with Catholicism; anyway, thanks for this, always thought Matt would be the "Megadeth for consistency" type of bloke, so the answer to the great debate was a pleasant surprise. And good point in general, Hetfield's unusually singer-songwriter approach really gives a lot of space for self reflection and conscience delving.
Great chat! Was in a metal band in high school in the nineties also, but loved bands like Deliverance, Believer, the Crucified, Vengeance Rising, Mortal, and 100 other "Christian metal" names no ones ever heard of. We played at church youth events, and We Were Lousy. Still think so some of these band's songs as the best ever. Rez, Petra, Sacred Warrior, White Cross, Mastedon, Mortification, One Bad Pig, ...... ...but also think that Metallica had one of the coolest sounds ever
People who numb themselves are people that are in a bad, dark, hopeless and painful situation and being numb is like putting a pause to all that horrible feelings because they can’t take it anymore. Very sad.
I fell in love with Metallica a few years ago and they’ve quickly become my favorite band. And I’ve gotten much encouragement and positivity from their music, particularly where the lyrics deal with addiction and overcoming your burdens. I love how we can be Christians and still rock out.
Heck yeah, I love whenever Matt talks about Metallica on the show. My all-time favorite band and had the privilege to see them live a handful of times. So glad Matt is a big fan haha
I find it so refreshing that both of you are metal fans! Since converting I've often wondered if my preference for the hard and heavy was something that would be confession- or abstinence-worthy thing that I held on to. And while I love my sweet Jesus, the music He inspires is usually just doesn't ... inspire (for the lack of better word). Except Skillet, but they're the exception to the rule.
I have a side gig at a concert venue and Megadeth just played last month. At one point they stopped playing mid-song because some guy was being super aggressive in the crowd. Dave Mustaine called him out in front of everyone, called him some choice words, and said "you ruined my song you f-ing idiot." So, respect to Megadeth calling it like it is.
Metallica is amazing... but Megadeth might be better in terms of the cranking out amazing riffs. Sometimes one song will have like 10 riffs that could each be a killer song by themselves. Also, worth mentioning that before Dave Mustaine started Megadeth, he was a founding member of Metallica and helped write a lot of their earliest stuff (before getting kicked out for being a jerk). Mustaine, along with other metal heroes, later became a Christian too.
I'm reading the Led Zeppelin story at the moment (by Bob Spitz) - they made some fantastic music back in the day (Stairway to Heaven etc) and put on a great show - I saw them just the once, in 1979. But their existence "on the road" was a nightmare - wrecked hotel rooms - groupies - never ending supplies of drugs - punch ups - overnights in jail - alcohol addiction - dabbling in the occult; they were also surrounded by some really violent "minders". Some of that may seem "fun" for a while but in the end, it just leads to misery !
I like Metallica up to Load/Reload. When St. Anger came out, it was so bad, I was done with them. Haven't listened to anything since. I like Megadeth up to Risk. Not that I dumped them; I just haven't listened to them since. More into Dream Theater and prog. If you haven't heard of Theocracy, check them out. They are a Christian metal band. Check out the songs "Easter" and the lyric videos for "I Am" and "Mirror of Souls". Amazing stuff!
Regarding Metallica vs Megadeth, Metallica's early albums taken as a whole were probably better than Megadeth's taken as a whole, but Megadeth's later work is probably better than Metallica's later work.
This is pretty crazy, of all the videos I’ve watched today, this was the most interesting. I could add a bunch. Creeping Death is pound for pound number one Bible themed metal song OF ALL TIME!! Been a fan since before confirmation AND after. Also.. I would add… if you exclusively down pick like Hetfield, it’s pretty challenging song to play without your wrist and/or forearm falling off.
Christian metal bands is such an oxymoron to me. It’s like biblical lyrics combined with chaotic melodies. Idk, if I’m the only one but I used to listen to metal and then the Holy Spirit convicted me to stop listening to it and then made me more fond of classical and peaceful melodies instead. Like, that makes more sense to me as a Christian than listening to hardcore bands. As the saying goes, where there is peace there is Jesus.
@@MrPenguin91809 I’m curious what you mean by classical music and “peaceful melodies.” So much of what we call classical music was written by men who were sexually and morally degenerate. The thing I enjoy about music, secular or not, metal, or not, is how it speaks to the human condition. It can be very redemptive in that fashion. And the kind of sounds we are accustomed to enjoying, have a lot to do with our circuitry and how we are wired up neurally and have nothing to do with the condition of our spirits.
I'm a classical musician and listen to lots of metal. There's nothing wrong with the metal genre, only with particular bands or songs. The same goes for pop, jazz, electronic, or any other genre.
@@amattson6578 I actually agree with you there. I used to think music from Of Mice & Men, Red, Linkin Park, I See Stars, Silverstein, My Chemical Romance, etc. was beautiful and well composed but then I became sensitive to heavy metal, screamo and lyrics about anger, hate and suffering. Now I’m drawn to artists like All Angels, Hauser, Joe Hisaishi, Mozart, and Yu-Peng Chen / Hoyo Mix
By the grace of God, Some kind of monster and James greatly helped me reach almost 12 years in recovery from drug and alcohol addiction. That exact extract you quoted was a staple in my early recovery.
JR is absolutely correct. Megadeth’s body of “quality” work dwarfs Metallica’s. And, nothing Metallica ever produced is even in the same ball park as “Rust In Peace” which is, in my opinion, the best Thrash Metal album of all time. No Dave, no Thrash!
Rust in Peace vs Master of Puppets, I dont know, listened to both a million times and Master still sounds new, Rust sounds dated...I dont listen to metal much, but I still get cravings for master of puppets once a year.
I would be interested in hearing them talk some about Peter Steele and Type O Negative, especially regarding his return to Catholicism shortly before he died.
RTL, MOP and Justice hold up well and have some of the best hard rock/metal sings ever written (Creeping Death,Disposable Heroes, For Whom the Bell Tolls, One, Dyers Eve). I would say this though, and this is nothing against the band or a condemnation, but I was a big fan of the Mercyful Fate cover they did,buying the Garage Days CD with Birthday Money at about age 12. Via that track I discovered the band Mercyful Fate and remember listening to the Oath for the first time as a 13 year old and how much it disturbed me, but by about 14 I was comfortable with barking "Hail Satan." I don't want to blame Metallica for making me familiar =with Satanic music, I discovered worse bands than MF, but it's something I take in to account with Metallica's spiritual influence. Anyway, I pray for the conversion of King Diamond.
Metallica was kool but died after and justice for all.......... Megadeth was crushing it after holy wars.. And still is Metallica has gone soft and Megadeth is still kickin These guys got caught up in the popularity of Metallica.......
Seen both Megadeth and Metallica live, both are really good, but Metallica is better. I’ve seen Megadeth 2x and I’ve seen Metallica 10x. James Hetfield is a really outstanding musician and I think he’s found his way, he’s a very humble guy these days. Just saw them at Foxborough in August, absolutely brilliant performances on both nights. Metallica forever, forever Metallica!
I grew up with them and I don't listen to them anymore. I only have a cursory semi-awareness of Death Magnetic and absolutely no interest in what's on Hardwired or 72. 'why are you telling us this?' The guy said 'We always love who we grew up with' at the 0:34 mark. I have 5 different versions of MOP, on 2 different formats and I saw them on the Justice tour, both consecutive nights in Edinburgh and on the Black album tour in Glasgow. I'm here to tell you, the statement at 0:34 is not true and I feel confident that I am far from alone, in this respect, when it comes to this band. Happy trails if you are more easily pleased than we are (and with the amount of other music I'm into, I consider myself to be, not a very harsh judge, and fairly easily pleased).
I'm more into bands like nuclear assault and overkill. The bay area scene kinda lacked that hardcore punk backbone that the new York thrash bands had no problem bringing to the table.
I have been unsure if I can listen to secular music as a follower of Christ and I asked him last night please show me something to tell if you don’t want me listening to it but maybe he’s showing this video to tell me it’s okay but idk.
I was a big Mettalica fan before my conversion. Post-conversion, I just stopped listening to them and other bands from the genre due to the anti-Christiam symbolism e.g. the video for Unforgiven etc. Is it ok to still listen to them? I can give more extreme cases like black metal bands which openly glorify Satan. I could def use help understanding this. Btw, my fave Metallica song would have to be Orion and Fade to Black.
@@briandmello1981 I listen to Metallica, even though I am more of a classic heavy metal guy (e.g. Black Sabbath, Judas Priest). Well sometimes they're just using God's name or cross or something to create a picture or some philosophical construction I would say, but they are not linked with antichristian sentiment (Metallica would be the last one to do that). Others deliberately use it in order to be provocative or they acting like someone in their song but also are not satanists (Slayer). The biggest problem for me are those "normal" megapopular bands that use hidden messages and were/are into occultism - The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Bowie, etc.
it's funny they grew up with metallica but somehow did not grow up with megadeth. mustaine was in metallica, and after they booted him for writing their best songs and being the only one who could play his instrument (until the rest of them learned, except lars of course) or hired better bassists (cliff), megadeth formed right after that, so yes you all grew up with both. yes, you could pack a full album full of metallica's one-hit wonders in the 80's, I still rock to that stuff. sure, their lyrics weren't ever even fit to print on toilet paper and they were and are certainly sang like it, but they were great because when I was starting out on drums, it was the only band i had ever listened to where I was already better than their drummer before I got my first pair of drum sticks. I just don't understand how they are also the only band I know of to get consistently worse and worse over time. like from justice downward, then a steep drop with that steaming pile of load and never recovered. for shame. mustaine on the other hand may not be as commercially popular, but he started strong and still aged like fine wine. metallica ruled the 80's with justice (which was still really a travesty with the lack of bass in the mix but i digress) yet since the 90's, instead of getting worse like metallica, megadeth actually got better like normal bands do lol. countdown to extinction destroyed anything metallica was doing at the time and they've consistently churned out better music since. though i'm back and forth on thinking he might have even less business signing than hetfield, but that's debatable..
Matt I have free Metallica seats for you in Mexico City if you want them. Your channel has helped me so much and if you’re able to accept I would like to invite you and a friend, or you’re wife, to the concerts on Sept 27 & 29 in Mexico City. I have a private raised platform for 8 people 75’ from the stage with access to the general admission floor.
Megadeth over Metallica everyday. Today Megadeth is a band of clear members who have slayed their demons and rocking with clarity. Unfortunately Metallica are still battling tge same old demons. Dave credits God for his life. James is still struggling and needs prayer. Kirk still credits the devil for his life.
I never got married, but if I could do it all over again, Id marry Jonathan R, and have 10 million babies!...JESUS IS A METALLICA FAN!! I did the Hollywood/RNR heavy metal thing back in the 80s n 90s and I can relate here 100%...my fav metallica song is 'wherever I may roam' but I am definitely a pre black album fan...i remember practicing my bass guitar to 'trapped under ice' circa 1984. Jonathan Roumie is so HOT.✝️
Their lyrics can really do a lot of damage to someone's unwanted stepchild. Could have done without them. Would never get into death metal, and the rest of that stumbling in darkness, if it wouldn't be for them.
Under our apostle Paul’s ministry,to be SAVED, you must BELIEVE/TRUST The Gospel of Jesus Christ,1 st Corinthians Chapter 15 verses 1-4.Jesus Christ died on the cross for all of your sins,was buried,and rose again on the third day.Jesus Christ’s Shed Blood is what saves you when you Believe this plan of salvation with your heart.Romans 3:25” Faith in His Blood”.
Dave mustaine has many demons. Not that the members of metalic dont. But with Megadeath it's like teen angst with rythm. But Metalica is like story telling. It has more clarity and melody. While i can see some commonality in the movements i feel like Megadeath is more boiled down to the basics but hits harder. i think metalica lyrics are more about pain. And Megadeath lyrics are more about pride rebelion and destruction. And there may be some validity to certain things, a friend used to tell me that the world is like a bucket of crabs. A bucket of crabs doesn't need a lid because the crabs on the bottom will latch onto a potential eacapee and pull them down. We can acknowledge that the world is wicked and that there are pains involved in living in it. But i feel like metallica can resonate better with christians and Megadeath resonates more with the worldly who have been hurt by it. As a Christian i feel like dave mustaine needed guidance and the church when he was with Megadeath vs Metallica. Maybe metalica could have been better to him. Maybe they could have been better to each other because they clearly have enough interpersonal tensions. But if i were a parent of a child who loved Megadeath i might ask them to go to church more often.
Wow. I'm totally floored. I never expected the intersection of the Catholic faith & heavy metal. I dislike Metallica's selling out & hostility to the digital age, but they are objectively a greater talent than Megadeth--no shade on Dave Mustaine.
I was into metal music, but generally disliked Metallica, Anthrax and Iron Maiden. I've seen Anthrax and Iron Maiden live and it didn't improve anything for me. At least with Metallica I could appreciate their song writing through covers by other bands like Apocalyptica's cover of Nothing Else Matters.
