What Muslims Say to Convert Christians w/ Charbel Raish 

Remarks like this show that you have little appreciation for the Monotheism of Moses and Abraham in distinction to the polytheism of the pagans. And I mean that you take it trivially. Your logic is reductionist and leads to a long series of pagan-affirming presuppositions, such as God having a wife (Asherah, for the heretics among the Israelites), the existence of other gods and other absurdities. God can do everything, whatever that is supposed to mean to you, but everything isn't God, only God is God. If you can stretch your logic to make anything fit God then divine Revelation and continuity of doctrine are not concerns to you. Gnostics had similar logic to you, made God a minor deity (called the Demiurge) in a long chain of deities (eons) and even gave God a higher mother (Sophia).

@@oceanmachine1906 The best thing I can say is that you misunderstand my faith.

@@perseverantiafinalis2069 I understand that you have a theological agenda here and feel necessary to preach your belief but Islam itself is strictly not what my comment is about. I'm sure you saw my avatar and started frothing at the mouth. Please respond to the points I addressed or simply be a better representation of Christianity and don't respond at all (therefore not embarrassing yourself like in your comment above).

There absolutely things God cannot do. Saint Thomas Aquinas argued that things CAN fall outside of God's omnipotency. For example God can not create another God. The real question here is: is God, begetting an Eternal Word and First-Born Son outside of time, within His scope of omni potency?

@@aahlstrom93I can't disagree with the genius of St. Thomas Aquinas. As to the rest of your statement, I'll have to give it some thought.

Did you happen to belong to the Rosary Group that met on Tuesday nights at the Balad West Chapel? I was there then.

You should look up Saint Charles de Foucauld. He had the same experience only it was over a century ago in the French army in Algeria. Look him up and let me know.

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Just imagine if there were large groups of people saying grace in a public restaurant! I see that as a calling indeed. Praise be to God! Amen.

@@kevinryan8389 HI! No, I didn't. I actually only went to Mass once during Easter while I was there. My life was a mess then and I didn't feel worthy to even go to Mass. But I spoke to a chaplain from a different denomination and something just didn't feel right. He said he could hear my confession but something was off. So I went to Mass just that once. I was also in Balad! Thank you brother for praying the Rosary with every one. Those prayers reached this lost soul.

Well, at least we know where Leftists get their argumentation from.

I love using David Wood’s work and Robert Spencer’s The Critical Quran.

@@batmaninc2793 Yes! David Wood and Robert Spencer! I'm a member of the Acts17 Community, thanks to being sponsored because I didn't have the money to pay for a membership on my own. I've been watching Dr. Wood's videos for years.

@Jared Powell I have no idea. It's actually all Arab Muslims who actually live in the Middle East who have pulled the "racism" card on me, though, so it's not the White American Liberals doing it in my case.

Racist because you are reverting! Reverting to what? To a religion which came 600 years AFTER Christ? Racist? What does racism have to do with it? Now I know why the Left (anti God) can get along with islam. Nothing logical .

Exactly!!

Yeah they often gain weight.

That’s why some people call it the “feast” of Ramadan 😂

Yeah it’s almost like binge eating whereas in the catholic tradition, there’s only 1 meal eaten a day and 2 small snack. All vegan. But no more than just a meal for a day. You eat it after 3pm. The rest of the day is fasting with water. Some saints even fasted just water and a little bread. So it really goes to show how far you can take it depending. But definitely shouldn’t binge eat like some Muslims do after sunset , kinda defeats the purpose for a fast imo

An interesting thing is that Muslim countries have a low rate of cancer because it has been studied fasting can reduce the risk of Cancer. So fasting does have some benefits

Lol Catholic teachers are required to show Baptismal Certificate to be accepted. You must prove you are Catholic. At least in Canada.

No, he was not respecting your faith by not wearing the logo because of the cross.

setuju brother. Sometimes we have too much indifferentism in our country.

bedanya filosofi barat dan timur, ideologi agama rata2 di indo sudah terpengaruh idologi timur, yg percaya sifat universal. kalau di barat masih perkara " hitam dan putih"

@@user-lr6hw4dq4t Salah Bro. Yesus tidak pernah bilang bahwa surga adalah hak semua orang. Dia juga tidak pernah bilang bahwa surga adalah hak orang baik. Masuk surga bagi manusia adalah mustahil, kecuali bagi mereka yang menerima berkat ("grace") Yesus karena Yesus bilang "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" Yohanes 14:6...

@@danielwidyanto5142 itu sola fide mas. Ada pernyataan : Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus (EENS), yaitu, Tidak ada keselamatan di luar Gereja Katolik. Itu muncul dari katekis resmi, dan dipahaminya gini : ada keselamatan bagi orang yg gak dibaptis, dengan catatan ada keinginan untuk mempercayai Kristus. Ada istilah "invincible ignorance", dimana orang gak beriman karena emang gak tau, tapi keselamatan bisa didapatkan sekalipun orang hanya memiliki hubungan mistik thd Kristus. Maka dari itu ada istilahnya "pewartaan khabar baik", yg tujuannya bukan membuat org mualaf, tp membuat org merasakan adanya "tubuh mistik kristus" melalui nilai2 kekristenan yg disebarkan oleh umatnya. Ujung2 nya Surga neraka itu legitimasi Tuhan.

@@danielwidyanto5142 yg dikatakan x 1 bener bro, ada emang EENS but what about the other who never listen, who never knew about Jesus, who get the wrong info about Jesus, kaya di Indonesia, you know lah disinformation karena islam, lalu when they died, apakah Allah lantas menghukum mereka ke neraka tanpa ada pertimbangan sementara jika mereka tau tentang Yesus, mungkin saja mereka convert. Apakah Allah menutup mata terhadap mereka yg belum tau soal kabar gembira tsb?

True! That guy was an imam before converting to Christianity!!

He's excellent

Agreed, his testimony is on of the best I've ever heard

Haha What a joke. Small muslim children Can see that he was not a muslim who knew about islam. Season On RU-vid “his name + exposed” ❤

@Fabiola please look up non muslims trying ramadan for the first time on youtube before claiming it’s “easy”. it’s not. and we fast for 30 days in a row from sunset to sundown without even water in extremely hot countries while working.

@Fabiola fasting is compulsory for us though. why you criticising people that actually follow their religion? sounds like jealousy

@Fabiola may allah guide you ✌️

Hi, Monk. Thanks for your comment. It is especially valuable as it recalls important and fundamental considerations. I think, however, that it is out of place to object to the obvious appeal of an obviously and unabashedly masculine religion. Indeed, one of the factors driving significant conversion from Christianity to Islam of late in historically Christian societies is the ready contrast between assertive and purposeful Muslim apologists and feminized emasculated purposeless representatives of Christianity. Indeed, before Muslim apologists began their ready harvest, Christians on their own initiative were abandoning the churches as presenting nothing worthy of their respect.

@@gregorybarrett4998 that was precisely my point. Christianity appeals to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. The Church is always being purged of those who can be drawn away by the lure of superficial and material things. True Christianity means conforming to the teachings of Christ. It demands we become more Christ like. It’s easy to wield power, it’s not so easy to be powerful and wield peace. The strength of Christianity is not in appearing strong in worldly ways, there are plenty of worthy candidates for that title. It is in being strong in spiritual ways, look at the power of St. John Paul II or St. Mother Theresa in the last century. Not everyone can or is willing to do the work required to manifest that strength. Yes, work! That is not the fault of Christianity, which makes the way available, but the fault of the sinner who turns away every time a shiny new toy is waved in front of them.

@@thedomesticmonk772 Hi, Monk. Thanks for your reply. In it you again make important distinctions, and I'm not sure if we fundamentally disagree. At the same time, it is facile to dismiss developments with a false spiritualization, calling alternatives worldly and preferred perspectives spiritual. Every demographic marker indicates that the Church has not only been in crisis for decades but that this crisis was furthered by Church representatives who substituted the imago dei of God in Christ with an emasculated counterfeit. Your reference to JP II serves as an apt illustration. JP II was a man's man whom all could in many ways unashamedly admire, imitate and follow. During his tenure, the seminaries saw the restoration of vocations, even in the face of the lavender mafia. It is right, natural, good, wholesome, and appropriate that men be challenged to develop the virtues which are competent to address matters without falling to cheap imitations which do not possess the strength and power which their office identifies as being in possession and instead actually by their supposed restraint and moderation leave the sheep without their protection and leadership. So if such leaders as JP II, who will publicly chastise a rebellious priest is the virtuous man that you're talking about, then I agree with you, but if what you mean is someone who prioritizes decorum while trusting God to work out difficulties, then I think you have chosen well to pursue a life of prayer and retirement. When men see men behaving like men, they are inspired themselves to become the men that they might be. When men see men behaving without dignity, they look elsewhere for inspiration.

@@gregorybarrett4998 that’s your opinion on how the Pope should lead. But all leaders have their own styles, weaknesses and strengths. Pope Francis is our Pope. He is Christ’s Vicar on earth and deserves our prayers and respect. He is going to be accountable to Jesus and God for his actions. We are going to be accountable for our own. Is your spiritual house so in order you can criticize the Pope? Really? Because if you believe it is, I’d recommend a serious examination of conscience. Church history shows us that those who loved the Pope, (or their Bishop), and treated him with charity, even when they disagreed with him on something often became Saints AND effected reform. Those who attacked the Pope and the Church tend to wind up heretics. You can only change yourself. It seems silly wasting time criticizing the Pope and your own Church when you could be sharing the Gospel and bringing people to Christ.

@@thedomesticmonk772 Hi, Monk. Thanks for your reply. I think misunderstanding has induced loss of perspective in your composition of your reply. You had raised JP II as a model of Christian virtue, and I agreed with you, highlighting some aspects of that virtue. I had pointed out the demographic winter in the Church which predated the current pontificate, so it is unreasonable to suppose that my criticism was reserved to the current pontificate. You had advocated a pacifist approach to Church governance, and I responded with the recognition that such response is suitable for those whose vocation involves prayer and retirement from the world, but is a violation of the duties of leadership in the Church. With respect to the current pontificate and our appropriate response, there are several meaningful considerations. In the first place, everyone without exception needs our prayers, and so it is fully appropriate that such prayers be offered, in proportion to their and our station in life. With respect to the question of respect, distinctions are appropriately drawn. Until Christ’s return, the Church operates in three phases: the Church glorious, already in possession of the beatific vision; the Church suffering, undergoing final purification; and the Church militant, confronting all the forces that militate against God, which perspective indeed has inspired your contributions throughout, Monk. One of the things that you’re taught in the military is that it is the uniform that you salute, not its occupant. One can, should, and does respect the gift of God in providing particular vehicles for the delivery of His grace. As for human beings, they deserve as much respect as they earn. There have been times in the Church’s history in which the faithful rightly presumed the virtue of high clergy simply in virtue of their having been selected for office. Such is not the case today. You confuse categories of consideration when you insist that the exercise of the faculty of reason as relates to public acts of public persons is explicitly to be suppressed before perfect possession of all virtues is in evidence. The question is not whether one is able to demonstrate that there is no disorder in his own life; the question is rather whether one possesses sufficient knowledge and virtue to make a just determination of the meaning of such public acts. Beyond that, so long as there is not hypocrisy in condemning in others what one excuses in himself or those with whom he is identified, there is no objection to pursue multiple dimensions of the development of the good, such as the correction of public figures, the warning of those at risk from the unworthy behaviour of public figures, the support of growth in virtue of those with whom one is identified, and the pursuit of personal virtue. In that regard, by your own standard, Monk, you condemn yourself for criticizing both Matt and me throughout this thread. It is better to say that there are insights and perspectives that you bring which might help inform the discussion, and which themselves might need further refinement. There is a rich wealth of material in Church history. One lesson which is appropriate to glean therefrom is the rich variety of ways in which grace works. Certainly you are correct, Monk, when you say that people became saints and achieved good for the Church by supporting wicked popes and bishops, but that’s not the whole of the story. Usually, far from becoming saints, such persons themselves became compromised and actually furthered the evil pursued by their superiors. Also, others have become saints precisely in publicly confronting the evil actively pursued by those occupying positions of authority. Wisdom is vindicated by her children, and if your vocation involves a pacifist response to evil, then it will be the means by which grace will multiply in and around you. That says nothing in support of the proposition that such is the only way in which grace works. Similarly, the popularization of saints’ lives emphasizes the moral danger of criticizing public figures and especially ecclesiastical figures. This is perfectly appropriate in popularizing accounts, but precisely because it is a popularizing account, it does not attend to the complementary moral dangers of cowardice and indifference, which so rack Church history as scarcely to merit notice. It is certainly true, as you say, Monk, that we have more and more direct influence on our own lives than we do on the lives of others, but the sentence as you put it, “You can only change yourself”, is most definitely false. The question is the degree of influence. Some people have profound influence on millions, if not billions, of people, while others have only mild influence on only few in the immediate environment. Catholic moral teaching instructs men to pursue such personal development as will serve as the greatest channel of grace as suits one’s vocation. You object that my behaviour is silly, Monk, because it is criticizing the Pope and Church, and thus serving as a counterwitness. There are several lines of thought which bear directly on this. The first is invalidating: before posting your reply, did you stop to ask yourself whether you were yourself acting as precisely the counterwitness you condemn by criticizing Matt and me? I suspect not, and that even if you had, and now that it has been brought to your attention, your reply would be that it is necessary because the activity of the other is itself a counterwitness which stands in need of correction. Well, what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander: if it is appropriate for you to present correction to Matt and me, then it is appropriate for Matt and me to criticize the counterwitness of Churchmen. Either you condemn yourself or you justify Matt and me. The second concerns precisely the question of witness: Would you be enthusiastic to say to anyone who has no knowledge of Christianity or Catholicism, “Come and see what it is to live as a member of the Church Christ founded!”? Does not the life and witness that the Church presents to the world today rather itself represent in significant senses a counterwitness to the gospel? As things stand, the witness which must be made is, “Despite all appearances, the effect of access to the fullness of grace that Christ provides, which is available only in the Church, is a life of truth, and goodness, and holiness, and the pursuit of life with God in heaven. All the indicators to the contrary have particular explanation in some private, personal, individual defect, or are otherwise distinct from the Church, and I’m prepared to spend the hours to show that this disaster is not a systemic whole. Trust me, I can do it.” To which the unbiased unevangelized intelligent educated individual says, “Un-Hun. Sure. Well, you’ve got your work cut out for you.” It is part of evangelization to correct and purify the Church, and thereby to participate in the work of grace to make Her the obvious work of grace that She is by Her nature.

The same guy who rejects catholic truth.....like David white.

I love CP😃

Yeeeesss

@@quiricomazarin476 Christians, even protestants, differ on a lot of things but they also agree on the fundamentals. The Divinity and Lordship of Jesus Christ is one key thing that CP and Catholics and David White all agree upon. Muslims of course will try to focus on the differences among Christians. Divide and conquer is their goal.

He has been refuted many times

the fact that we don't have free will ,is why i don't believe the Abrahamic religions

Just make sure to lose that pride now brother stay strong

Let's pray for them and for their return to faith in the true God. ✝️

Most people who leave Christianity were not true Christian to being with. Lots of people think that being a Christian is to go to church sometimes and read the Bible which it isn’t. It’s about if you truly believe Jesus is the Son of God and having a spiritual connection with God. (Unfortunately I think this is the fault of a lot of Church’s who don’t talk about what truly makes someone saved). Once you are saved, you are saved but some have strayed for a bit until God calls them back. Unfortunately most people who think they are Christians that I have meet were not actually saved. And it truly is a sad site to see.

@@lunagrace2872 I don't think that's true. I was a devoted Christian as a child and young adult. I was one even after sexual abuse that happened within the walls of church, supposedly God's own house. But I still held the faith. Then I went to the military and saw some horrible things, lost some great friends whom I considered brothers and sisters. If there is a God that is in control, I could never trust him again. It doesn't have anything to do with what my previous devotion was. Sometimes life experiences can change your outlook.

Kyrie Eleison, memory eternal for our Holy Martyrs ☦

Thats an evil way to introduce someone to any religion. Caught him off guard and backed him into a corner before literally tricking him and saying that hes muslim now. As a muslim this is infuriating

I may be confused with the wording of your comment but doesn't Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all worship the same God? I know they all worship the God of Abraham, they just go about it in different ways.

@@aliskarape177 All different names for the same God. But they break apart with Jesus. Jewish stick with the old testament. Christians follow the old and new Testaments. Muslims stop with the old testament and then jump to Mohammed. Although Muslims do recognize Mary for some reason - I haven't gotten that far with my studies. Same God, but different interpretations.

@@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732 Muslims don't skip the New Testament, the Gospels are mentioned several times in the Quran as a legitimate scripture revealed by God, although supposedly the Gospels that we have today are distorted in some way. Also Muslims, like Christians, believe that Jesus was the promised Messiah mentioned in the Old Testament, and that near the end of times Jesus will return to Earth to slay the Anti-Christ and bring about the Day of Judgment.

@@aliskarape177 christianity teaches god took human form, lived a sinless life and took the punishment for our sins on the cross, and that on the third day he was resurrected islam teaches allah would never do such a thing and that isa was just a prophet, and when he was sentenced to crucifixion he had another man take his place and laughed at him and directly ascended to heaven by allah to save him from his sentence very different God

@@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732 they dont even follow the old testament, they believe noah had a fourth son named yam and that lots wife wasnt turned into a pillar of salt and that allah cursed isaac and that the children of ishmael are the true inheritors of israel

Non Muslims cannot enter Mecca.

Are you sure about your story? Western travelers, unless they are Muslim, are banned from entering Mecca, and would be punished pretty severely if caught

@@ndesi62 you’re right . Possibly Cairo. Time for the Prevagen.

Yeah. Also the price of foodstuff skyrocket every time near ramadhan. They also consume huge amount of sugar during that period.

@@melissalisaandrean6803 exactly. It's not a true fact. They didnt give up anything, just changed the hours of consumption of food etc

@@c.Ichthys if anything, one could easily argue that they achieve the opposite of what fasting entails and that they become far more gluttonous, slothful and greedy than what they would otherwise be without their Ramadan "fast."

@@csongorarpad4670 yes well said. I have read comments that have said during Ramadan they actually gained weight!!

Lets not judge. We dont know what every muslim does, after sundown. Let God decide wether their fast is proper or not.

I read some of the quaran. How is beating your wife or killing infidels, peaceful? xD

Yeah.. a piece of you here.. a piece of you there...

@@richardlucascronley5128 “and a piece of you waaaaaay over there STAINING THE WALL.”

I am a devout Muslim. I wouldn't call Islam a "religion of peac TM" because it is a meaningless phrase. But if you are implying that Muslims have dealt more terror and killings on this planet than Christians have, then you are either ignorant of modern history or you suffer from cognitive dissonance.

@@richardlucascronley5128 I shouldn't giggle at this comment, but I am. 🤭

In Christian Orthodox Calender there about 75% of the dates in red which are fast dates.

There is a party attitude among many but many prioritize praises to the lord and many do both. There are Prayers right before iftaar and obviously a strict Fasting routine abstaining from all pleasures until sun down. Apart from Ramadan many Muslims fast Every Monday and Thursday.

@@0miy0 yes I know that there are people who are earnest about it. I lived in a muslim country for 17 years and now that I am back in my country I am also doing a lot of voluntary work where I encounter many muslim women . I always say that it Is not what the people do but what the Teachings are. If Catholics really followed their Faith and knew everything about their faith , the world would be a different place. Terrorism increases during Ramadan for the simple reason that during Ramadan, you do not only fast but do things that please God. What we call terror is not terror in their minds (those who do it) . They are pleasing god by destroying the kouffar . There is much more but I will not go into that. As people I will never differentiate between a muslim and somebody else. That would be ridiculous. All of us are children of God , if we know it or not. The ideologies and teachings are what I am against.

@@amiralsrbani24 yup, fasting almost every Wednesday and Friday (except during feasts), then lent and dormitory of the theotokos, please correct me if I am wrong of half right

@@duckmeat4674 you are correct! Priests and clergy myst follow the calendar to the letter !

And *_when_* they were corrupted. There is no timeline in which the Q'n makes sense about the Gospels.

Ironic that the Quran is most likely the true corruption of scripture, however some Christian religions have corrupted/ changed scripture such as the masoratic text

To be fair, in the genealogy of Jesus, Adam, the first in the series was also called Son of God.

@@jamesestrella5911 The genealogy of Jesus starts with Abraham to David, and then David to Jesus in The Gospel of Mathew. Do what scripture are you referring to?

@@FromAcrossTheDesert Luke 3:23-38

@@jamesestrella5911 Thanks.

@THT Amen Brother (or Sister?). God bless you. you made my day. Even on the internet it is a blessing to encounter the mystical body of Christ, the Church. May we all stay close and hold on to each other as the Holy Spirit binds us to the Father, through Jesus Christ, our Lord.

The Latin catholic fast used to be very similar. It was after vatican II that it was "softened". It had the same prohibitions except it did allow fish.

@@claudius_drusus_ It was "softened" because the Roman Catholic world is larger compared to the Byzantine Catholic world, and that world includes non-Catholics. Hence there may be times when it would be difficult or impractical for a Catholic to adhere to the fast. For example, if you have to travel long distances for work during Lent, it might not be practical to give up butter and cheese, etc. like the Easterns do. I mean, if the only meal on the plane is a vegetarian cheesy pasta or a beef burger, and you haven't eaten in hours, God is not so cruel as to make you faint from hunger. You might say you could bring some food with you, but what if that is also not possible since you're coming from your hotel, and don't have time to get anything from the restaurant, or whatever. Things like this happens, BUT during those times when you are at home and you can avoid butter and cheese, then do so. The Roman Church gives the minimum requirements, but not the maximum. You can do more, and indeed you are encouraged to do more, but you also know that during those times you cannot do more you're not sinning.

And really, Catholics do not FAST on Fridays during Lent. They ABSTAIN from eating meat. This guy has a lot to learn.

@@krdiaz8026 I wasn't criticizing vatican II. just explaining what happened and how it used to be. Thanks for the explanation.

@@marykuranda7254 he may have not been a Roman catholic. He may have been Chaldean Catholic.

One must also be careful too. Depending on the disposition of the listener, many people will flat out refuse to listen to what you are saying and will think you are insulting them. Based on a person's heart, also people are not always prepared to listen or to consider Christianity. When people want to listen or are interested they will. If they are not your friend or don't know you very well then probably not. You can maybe mention being a Christian or that you're going to Mass, it may spark their interest or it may not. It depends on where they are on their journey.

@James Furey The Lord rebukes you. Who are you to judge an ordained Bishop and the direction of the Body of Christ that is the Catholic Church. Repent and believe in God while you still can.

Hi, Die. Thanks for your comment, which helps draw distinctions. I would add two thoughts to build on yours. The first is that abstinence on a regular basis provides continual reminders that neither this life nor pleasure in this life is the driving consideration for the Christian. The second is that, with respect to fasting, the Catholic fast has been shown to be the more demanding and penitential than the simple fast of total abstinence. Total abstinence sends the signal that food is not an issue, so ignore altogether all considerations of hunger, whereas maintaining the structure of the day in which we sit down as we always do for regularly scheduled meals, only to encounter that our hunger is to be restrained and subjected to penance and purification and the pursuit of greater goods, is a much stronger signal.

"but simply not [...] eating" -- yeah, so a fast. It's not a fast in the sense of canon law, but it's a fast in a generic sense,

I work at a Mexican restruant that serves some meat as halal and yeah, at Ramadan the eat a fucking buffet. They gorge themselves in their suhoor and iftars... it is really just skipping lunch. I think the only thing I could argue that is hard in their fast is giving up water.

Good point, it's not even a real fast, they basically switch the eating window from day to night. Muslims brag about not eating or drinking for the whole day like it's some God given superhuman strength only they have. I've done extended fasting over the last year for health reasons and I've done dry fasting (no food or any liquids) for up to 48 hours, which was easy even in the middle of july

@@aahlstrom93 you should watch godlogic apologetics and soco films and christian prince and cira international and shamounian and reasoned answers on RU-vid and watch all the channels on RU-vid smoked pork ribs 😀😀😀

@@aahlstrom93 and giving up water is the unhealthiest thing you can do!

No, we hardly eat when we break our fast. Also we lose alot of weight during Ramadan

I don't share the respect of the speakers for the Muslim fast. They have the most extreme fast during the day (not drinking water) and then party during the night, as if it were some pagan ritual for a god who is blind during nighttime. I understand why it is a profound experience which strengthens communal ties, but theologically speaking, it seems like a parody of fasting.

IKR? 😆

@@trismegistus2881 not to mention it was potentially dangerous for pregnant women. Not allowed a sip of water all day! I had to explain to some that even their Iman would allow pregnant women to drink water, especially for time sensitive medical exams!

@@c.Ichthys pregnant women and sick people are not obligated to fast. Please do not speak things of which you have no knowledge.

@@uzayrwasif7604 Don't lecture me when you have no idea about my first hand experiences!! I worked in the medical field and when pregnant Muslim women had to get a time sensitive medical exam which required them to drink 6 cups of water and not urinate, they would tell me they were not allowed since it was agsint their religious fasting requirement of Ramadan. I would be the one telling them that they, because they are pregnant, did not have to fast and were allowed to drink water and to verify with their Iman. That going without water for long periods is actually dangerous. Go and read my post again very carefully and see what I wrote. You should apologize!

Me too!

Nice one. Another question they cannot answer is this. Is Quran/Kalamullah (Word of God) creation of creator? Is it eternal or not? Uninformed muslim will say Kalam/The Word is creation. This is a heresy among Islam that can cause you your life. Informed muslim will say it is neither Creator or Creation. Wallahuallam, only Allah know best. And it is Eternal. Now you can make them think, if The Word is Eternal but not Allah, and Allah is also eternal, than you have 2 eternal being. And this is shirik. Shirik is an unforgiveable sin in Islam. Then you can quote to them John Chapter 1.

They actually do have an answer to this, possibly more. The First would be that while the gospels were originally holy, they were corrupted to lead people into idolatry. The question I once asked a Muslim couple was, if the Quran says that the word of Allah cannot be corrupted, and the Gospels were once the holy word of God, how could they become corrupted? I don’t remember their answer precisely, but I remember it being weaker than a Frenchman’s handshake.

@@noahlynn827 And Jesus said that not one iota of the law will pass away, even if Heaven and Earth do.

Yes ,that's a conflict of their understanding that I've often understood too . I've often spoken to Muslims while doing ministry in china , and found them to be supportive , but more intent on religion than on acting in "charity" . Money does the work of their charity , not devotion to loving and helping others .

There is not a single unequivocal statement in the bible where Jesus himself says I am God

How do they sleep during the day? What about their jobs?

@@aahlstrom93 expats make up most of the working class. Most stores are at night. Saudis barely work anyways, mainly just tea time.

@@paul_321 Coming from an area where I am working 50 hours a week at 3 jobs, and where construction workers (who make tons of money) work up to 60 even if they don't need money this really boggles my mind. How is such a lazy (the Saudis, not expats) civilization able to sustain itself? Or are we the ones who are duped into working ourselves to death for corporations?

@@aahlstrom93 The World, and the individual advances as we build and prosper for our children and generations to come. If we are apathetic about the future, why should the future be sympathetic to the past? In KSA, apathy reigns and nothing gets finished, especially at the hands of Saudis.

That’s because in Christianity, Jesus is the living word of God. In Islam, the Quran is the living word of God. Killing the Christ is the worst crime humanity has ever done and yet when Christ rose again, God forbade humanity and they were saved. In Islam, if you burn the Quran, it’s the equivalent of killing the Christ.

Apostate Prophet, and I'm also a member of the Acts17 Community!

@@mikaelacash3791 great

Virtue-signaling

@@thstroyur No, no really. I don't think I am better than these people and I am not pointing my finger to anyone. My comment was directed to what the iman, from the mosque, told Charbel concerning their fasting being real fasting compared to the Christian one when, in reality, it is not. It is not because they eat even more and waste more food than when it is not Ramadan, they just do not eat during the day. The Christian fasting means you eat less than normal during the total time of Lent and Advent. The iman was the one virtue-signalling, but you didn't realized that.

@@absalon6888 What I meant is that the practice of indulging in "kosher" (halal?) timeslots during Ramadan reveals the fasting itself as a kind of virtue-signaling for the Muslims to broadcast how pious they are to the rest of their community; socially speaking, it's very akin to Pharisaic practices described in the Bible. Fasting is mortification - but the point of the mortification is not simply doing it for its own sake, but growing spiritually by doing it.

@@thstroyur Ah , ok. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Totally agree with you.

the goal isn’t to lose weight. it to fast for the sake of God and sacrifice your own comfort. it’s a form of worship

I'm fairly convinced that the sin of Abraham will have end time effects on us.

Your theology is off a bit. Seems kinda like modalism, one god acting in three ways. The Trinity is a mystery. It doesn't perfectly make sense, because God is as far above the reaches of human thought as the heavens are above the earth. And as we know now, the heavens are infinite. That being said, whatever God is, all three persons, or hypostases, are. All three are God in nature. I think the closest thing we have on earth is a force couple. Imagine grabbing a plate with two hands and spinning it. One hand pushes the plate up, one hand pulls the plate down, and the plate turns. All three are forces, a pushing force, a pulling force, and a rotational force. All three exist simultaneously, and if you take away one, all cease to exist. They are united, and share the same nature, but are also independent, discernable, real things.

@@josephmoya5098 but your explanation more confusing for beginer to see christianity. Obstacle for evangelize. Even we actually could argue trinity is already written in Old testament, but sporadically as Subject matter such Elohim, God of Word, and God of Spirit as simply as that. The issues right now is how bad our catechumens to explain that in perfect way, or just simply mentioned the role of Nicaean council.

@@user-lr6hw4dq4t It might be more confusing for a beginner. I will grant that. Works best if you are a physics nerd. And it is a very imperfect analogy. Still, I think we should be careful in reducing the Trinity to aspects of the same thing as if each person of the Trinity is an aspect of God, rather than fully God by nature. I mean, if I knew someone was already dedicatedly Christian, I would definitely go for the pure, Jesus is God, the Father is God, the Spirit is God, and you can't perfectly make sense of that, because God is beyond comprehension. But I can see that being a major stumbling block to evangelization.

@@josephmoya5098 by all means, I always agree nature of God is mystery and beyond human comprehension. But that's not how we explain to human with comprehensive framework. Of course if a catholic neccessary to obey the teaching of magisterium, orthodoxy focusing on divine mystery, protestanism focusing on scripture.... but how about common christian who need to explain for question coined by non christian? Have you ever know how christianity spread in Asia? Even the missionaries mixed church teachings with local wisdom. In my country, priest often were teach christianity with understanding of hinduism ethics. I already know this may split the church till this day, even a debate for those who support nor against the current pope, debate of "modern salvation", and many more. I'll simply be very sad If I couldn't explain the trinity properly for curious souls.

There's also the Satanic verses where Mohammed does indeed tell his followers to worship other gods. Furthermore, he has no miracles and he also removes baptism which is well attested by reports of John the Baptist in ancient antiquity.

Poland; the very faithful daughter of the Church. Man, i 💕 it

@@tikitakati6124: I’m glad that you like Poland🇵🇱❤️🤗, but I’m no man, I’m a woman!😁

8:08 My mother started out warning me, and ended up basically accepting the Faith. The "marital status" if one may call it so has stopped her from actually converting and receiving the sacraments. With her it's a huge thing that Catholics actually take Luke 16:18 and Mark 10:11 as written.

Peace, Islam is the truth. Read the Qur'an

A certain 'masculine Christianity' does exist. Many Church fathers described themselves as "warriors for Christ", and hardened their mind and body through extreme fasting and self-deprivation. I guess this doesn't correspond to what the world considers 'masculine', though.

@@trismegistus2881 Hm, what I see here is the idea of absolute dedication and responsibility.

@@lavinder11 i dont think dedicated women of that era described themselves as soldiers for Christ

@Libertas capitur Say more?

@Libertas capitur I'm a Christadephian, basically a sort of Biblical Unitarian!

Probably a majority of peace religionists look forward to another golden age when peacelam will once again be ascendant and ruling. The political aspect of peacelam is not to be underestimated based on other secularism-friendly religions.

Dont forget Belgrade in 1456

They very persona of genocidal maniacs they destroy beautiful places in the name of expanding their faith take Egypt as an example all the knowledge that ancient Egypts had built was destroyed

@MR. Poo Head What can be more masculine than voluntarily suffer throu flogging, carry heavy piece of wood for maybe miles, nailed upon that wood, dieing and then coming back to life and freeing the world from sin in glory?

To be fair to him, Muslims are taught from early age how to challenge Christianity. However, if you really wish to reach out to them, you need not only a good knowledge of your faith but you also need to know what the Qu'ran and the Hadith say. Muslims all believe that the Bible and Torah were corrupted and will not accept anything that comes from them as authorative or trustworthy. Here is one example on how to answer a Muslim challenge to the Trinity by using their own scripture against them: Ask them what the 3 most common names for Allah are. The will answer with: "the merciful, the compassionate and the loving". Now ask them this: "Are those his eternal names?" ( Meaning he always had them). Once they answer "yes" follow with "Then who was Allah merciful, compassionate and loving towards before he created Adam and Eve?" The point here is that in order to be merciful, loving and compassionate, you need an object for your love, mercy and compassion. Christianity can easily answer this since God the Father always loved the Son and they both always loved the Holy Spirit. Once humanity was created they simply extend that love to them.

@@hrvojevilic1674 no doubt. looking at this whole thing more closely that religion is a contrarian set of beliefs against Christianity. there are also other passages in Koran where muslims are to consult Christians in their beliefs when they don't know something, which is kind of silly if what they believe in is supposed to be the actual thing. the story here shows how badly educated Christians are, especially catholic in their own faith. it's a shame.

Actually, after Vatican II the interest in apologetics within the catholic community died out. Catholics just wanted to get along with other faith groups for ecumenism. However the others like protestants and Muslims kept their apologetics sharp and their polemics sharper. Most cradle catholics are like sheep to the slaughter when questioned about their faith as they never thought about such questions and have no answers for them.. Thankfully apologetics have started gaining traction again. Cradle catholics really need to put their desire for ecumenism in the back seat, brush up on apologetics first before going about in the spirit of ecumenism.

@@oliver8160 ecumenism is a misguided idea that jesuits have been promoting for decades. what it amounts to is one-way street - everything at the expense of Truth. Church is in retreat. protestants / muslims / orthodox are in errors and heretical positions and they haven't changed a bit. so what's the point? catholics are sacrificing their faith and societies to appeal to others that couldn't give two rats about it.

the point is no one does that vs muslims who fast a compulsory fast for 30 days in a row every year plus do voluntary fasts every monday and thursday. muslims also pray 5 times a day everyday no matter what which helps encourage disciple. how many christian’s even pray once a week lol anyways don’t criticise muslims when they’re actually following their religion

_"the point is no one does that"_ I am one of the Catholics who do try to abide by Roman Catholic fasting rules. 6 days a week from Ash Wednesday to Holy Saturday = 40 days, and there are other fast days over the year too. We exist. I would have succeeded better if Muslims and Protestants hadn't thought it a great thing to give me to eat when fasting, just because I was hungry. Or did "does that" refer to Muslims partying all night, from sunset to sunrise, minus some hour, so it's completely dark? Yes, in Paris the Muslims from Maghreb certainly do that. This Holy Saturday, early in the morning, I wanted to keep the minute breakfast minute because of the fasting rule. It was also Ramadan and the Seder had been the evening before, but the items offered the day before, late on Good Friday, strictest fast day of the year, after I had eaten all licit meals, didn't look like including typical Pesakh foods of Judaism. A Christian who didn't think I wanted to keep fasting and considered one could start Easter early is possible, but not my priority suspicion. He came back. He was meddling that Saturday morning with my luggage. I told him to go away. I pushed him when he refused and got kicked on the ground when hit hard enough to fall. _"don’t criticise muslims when they’re actually following their religion"_ Not even when it inspires a dominant behaviour towards others? And before you tell me we don't know if that was a Muslim, I know some in a pre-confinement years Summer Ramadan were pushing me to eat to much, I once had to shout because my kidneys were hurting. And before you tell me, I could have said "no thanks" - that's technically true, but when I said no thanks, someone was coming by a quarter of an hour later and making another offer. I ended up being half time annoyed and half time overeating. Until, as said, my kidneys hurt.

@@hglundahl you’re different then. most christians have abandoned their faith to appear more progressive and liberal. if you follow your religion correctly, good for you.

@@user-oh2di9td3f And if Muslims allow me to do so, good for them.

Yes- 1 leaf x 1 leaf x 1 leaf = 1 shamrock

The 3 hypotheses of God are not multiplied by each other to result in a singular being. Please stop this rediculous Muslim numerical equation stuff.

@@aahlstrom93 The mystery of the Trinity of God is difficult for mere humans to fully comprehend and we apply human intelligence to try to explain. Look at the three leaf clover: one plant with three identical leaves. Not separate. I liken the stem now as the human form of Jesus (see how it is still attached to the trinity of leaves, and part of the one plant). Not separated. Jesus has 2 natures: fully divine (second Person of the Trinity as God the Word/The Son), and fully human, as son of man, with a soul and the now resurrected (flesh) body. Jesus is the bridge between heaven and earth. Mediator between God and humans. (So, analogy: the stem of the clover, is the "bridge" between the earth and "heaven" where the three leaves of the clover are above the earth, yet still attached). Now, another analogy: Envision a semi frozen stream: Running water, ice formed from the same water, from which foggy mist arises from, and above, the water and ice. The molecular structure is identical and all from the running semi stream. Not separated. One: Water, ice and mist. The holy Trinity of God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Not separated.

No! Not in whatever amount. Stop judging Islam based on the imperfect people. You don't do this in your own faith, such hypocrisy.

@@jaciemokidm609 when the Islamists stop making hypocritical comparisons, I stop.

An interesting and foolhardy response.

Without lies Islam dies 👌👌

@@logantaylor366 Objectively untrue, because Islam is built upon a mountain of lies

@@logantaylor366 It's not foolhardy if I know what I'm talking about.

Why dont you do a experiment and try both.

As a muslim lemme tell ya that after like the first 3 days ur stomach starts to shrink and a glass of water will fill ya up when u break the fast. Are there muslims who still eat a lot of food during ramadan yeah sure there are. Also whats up with the weird comparisons , seems like you have some sort of insecurity. Trying to put muslims down to put yourself on top.

Dont worry. Abdool tried playing victim on my comment too

@@vc508 christians are the only perpetual victims lol

I mean among Roman Catholics. The "flat hand" sign of the cross is the Roman style, but it's not the only option available in the Catholic world.

im a muslim AND a woman and i can guarantee you, a very very small number of woman want more than one husband. most woman are monogamous

@@user-oh2di9td3fbut if a woman wants to have more than one husband, why can’t she?

Spoiler alert: they’re not

It is because in their quran it's implying that Christians believe allah has a son, when in actually we don't even believe in their god allah. Their quran makes it seem as though Christians believed in allah but then decided Jesus was allah's son. The muslims think that christianity used to be true until christians changed it, so then mohammed came to set things right. The quran speaks a lot about their version of jesus and their versions of stories found in the bible, they are changed versions. And the quran tells christians to quit believing that God is a Trinity. Basically their entire mindset is different and it's hard to convince them to change it. Because it's written in their religion.

yes we can make dua to God also at any point during the day

Hi, James. Thanks for your comment. The idea of a simple belief providing for all to live in peace and friendship is delightful and heartwarming. It is also naive, simplistic, and irrational fantasy. Most people can get along with some other people, but almost nobody can get along with everybody, so among the life skills we develop we have to have ways of dealing with others with whom it is impossible to get along. Furthermore, when there are among those with whom it is impossible to get along some who actively pursue our harm, we have to have ways of dealing with that. Among those who understand reality to exist in a fundamental dichotomy between creator and created, the understanding of both the creator and the nature and purpose of creation will profoundly influence the understanding and disposition of the believer. Where the creator is understood to be the arbitrary and capricious dictator of what is to be identified as good, there is to be expected a deformation of conscience. Since non-Catholic religions are not immune to such conception, the Church actively pursues the proclamation of the saving truth of revelation.

Sure, we can all believe in the Creator, that's not hard at all. We can also not care about truth in religious matters, and end up with lots of friends... in Hell. Choices, I guess.

When you look at creation and the wonderful miraculous intricacies and how everything works synergistically, you can know in your heart there is a God who created all. The question many seek the answer to is: which "religion" is true. First, all religions hold some truth, yet only one has the fullness of revelation. Those searching and jumping from one religion to another will never be fully at peace or content in their soul until they accept and acknowledge that one Faith, one Church, has the fullness of truth. That is the Holy Catholic Church that Jesus (God incarnate) established and built upon Kepha (means "Rock", and English means "Peter") with the Apostles as the foundation. God came to us (Emmanuel means "God with us", one of the names of Jesus), to not only redeem mankind and open heaven to us who follow Him, but to teach us about God our Father "who so loved the world He gave up His only begotten Son". The sad truth is that people fall away from God's truth found in His Church because they do not search and learn the teachings, and listen to false teachings of other religions instead, and oftentimes are misguided into rejecting Christ's Church because of lies taught to them about what others tell them the Church supposedly beleive. There is only one Creator, one God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit), and one way to eternal salvation (heaven).

Believing is not enough. Even the demons believe. We have to be in communion with God and each other, follow the commandments which wre good for us and society.

It certainly sounds like the case, but I wonder if that’s their way of trying to explain the problem of evil.

St. Thomas Aquiius explains the problem evil is that God cannot commit evil because God is good; there for God wills to permit evil. But actual fact that means in essence that God does Permit evil.

@@thomasdimattia3556 Their god is the one that decides whether or not he guides them or leaves them in the dark:" And whoever Allah guides - he is the [rightly] guided; and whoever He sends astray - you will never find for them protectors besides Him…” Quran (Surah Israa, 97). And Allah [i.e., Allah’s law] guides not the people who are Al-Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah).” (9:24) (35:8) - For, verily, God lets go astray him that wills [to go astray], just as He guides him that wills [to be guided]. [Asad] and you can find it in: (14:4) ,(16:93),(9:24), and many more. Unlike the God of the bible like in Luke 15:7.I say unto you, that likewise, joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance. You had a very valid question and thank you for bringing your way of thinking forward! I highly recommend you to read Jesus vs Mohammad written by Mark Gabriel a former Imam from Egypt who saw the light of Christ: he tells his story and there is a neutral part of the book that only presents historical facts and events that compare Jesus and Muhammad.

I enjoy researching different religions but if you have to lie about Islam to disprove it then you are making Christianity look weak. There is no such name of Allah, there is the Haqq - the True/Truth/True Reality. Allah is the One who guides and the One who leads astray. And He only allows people to go astray if they turn away themselves. It is in the Quran, if you can be bothered to read all of it and not cherry pick.

It can be hard to find Catholics who take their faith seriously, but also remember that Christianity is more about the inner life not the outer appearance of "taking things seriously". Jesus tells us to pray in our inner room, not 5 times per day in an elaborate ritual in front of everyone so everyone can see. It could be that the muslims seem to take it more seriously but it could also just be an appearance because they're in that community. There are a lot of them that don't actually take it seriously. It's just that those usually become Christian, nonreligious or atheist when in America. While the serious ones continue being muslim. Being a religious Catholic isn't always outwardly visible to others, someone can easily be a Catholic and you won't know it right away. But most Catholics I've known, even the ones who are not as religious, have the love of God in their hearts in a special way, it differs person to person but it's there.

I agree. The Muslims and Catholics I knew were my friends, so I was referring to how they behaved and talked in day to day life, their willingness to make sacrifices, their desire to fit in with the secular world, etc. I usually can't tell someone is Catholic or any kind of Christian because they never seem to mention God or going to church.

Deception is part of islam

@@vc508 I respectfully disagree 🙂

As is your right