What's ACTUALLY the Best Fall Crop in Stardew Valley? 

I made an oopsie in my calculations! I forgot to apply the level boost to the non-fertilizer affected caranberries, so more likely than not, the level requirements for pumpkins to outpace them are one or two levels higher!

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We love some infighting in the community. 😂

Cranberries with dehydrators have gotta be my favorite. Get close to 1k cranberries a harvest and can process them all in before the next harvest without thinking about it

This is up there with the argument over whether the fruit cave or mushroom cave is better. 😅

Salmence has that 'killing with kindness' vibe. Where kindness is the poison in the cookies he offered you with your tea. Twenty minutes ago. The last thing you see is the smile on his face as he takes another sip of tea.

Cranberries are great for shipping directly, but pumpkins make excellent use of a limited number of kegs.

Here's a rundown: For raw produce, cranberries are better than pumpkins until high farming levels, and you have to be giving the pumpkins fertilizer for them to be superior, which is expensive to buy and time consuming to craft. Assuming unlimited kegs, cranberries are flat out superior gold per day, especially since wine can be aged and juice can't. However, Pumpkins do give higher gold productivity on an individual keg basis, and therefore may be the better option while you're still building up your kegs and before you have access to casks. Yet again however, it must be remembered that these are fall crops, so you have all of winter and early spring to process your cranberry harvest before it starts interfering with spring crop processing, swinging the math back in favor of cranberries, assuming you are willing to wait longer for the money.

well yes but I'm not fucking processing 9 thousand cranberry's

Yeah that's correct, I plant cranberry for the first year and for the second years I plant pumpkin so I can get the pumpkin soups for skull cavern

I like the pumpkin soup, free luck food. Also no giant cranberry

Not to mention, cranberries you only have to buy once to reap multiple crops over the season, where pumpkins have to be rebought, and you will only get 2 yields. Cranberries are superior money crops all around.

Amusingly, I was having a discussion about this exact topic with my wife regarding my current playthrough mere moments before the push notification showed up.

Growing pumpkins for profit < Growing pumpkins to make Abigail happy >

If you dont have infinite kegs you can spend some time throwing them into seed makers instead. 2 cranberry seeds are worth about as much as a gold star cranberry so you can sell the gold ones outright and process the rest into seeds to get the equivalent raw harvest of a 100% gold yeild.

I still plant a mix of everything because I don’t want the towns folk to only eat one thing for an entire season.

yeah but i’m not boutta place 10,000 cranberries into kegs in year 1

If you dont have enough kegs for cranberries, plant half and half. Fill your kegs with pumpkins and use the seed maker for cranberries. Not only will you make money with seeds but with a lot of seed making, you'll gain ancient fruit seeds for your next spring

I just do berries because i love watching them pop everywhere during harvest

Gett’m! Fight Fight Fight! 😂😂😂

I don't care which is better. Bitter swamp berries my beloved

Sir idc about the money, I like the sound cranberries and blueberries make when I harvest them.

I just have been using all of the multi harvest crops every year get enough strawberries for the next year, grow those, blueberries, then cranberries. It’s been my empire since year 3 onward. Untill I got ancient seeds of course lol. Still reformable fruit though.

does this take giant pumpkins into account ?

🌜but i am gonna plant pumpkins because i hate cranberries and i don't know why

Honestly even if cranberries were less efficient I’d still plant them so I don’t have to replant

I use pumpkins instead of cranberies because I want fast gold, I have so much space to plant crops that if I were to use cranberies I wouldn't be able to finish processing them until the next fall

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Bruh I literally just planted some pumpkins for fall before seeing this :(

Cranberries can live in my greenhouse getting me insane dough every week without needing to donate half of them to seed makers

Pumpkins are cooler. Imagine running a cranberry farm. Lmao. Couldn’t be me

GET THIS. I just watched that short, swip up, THIS SHORT POPS UP OUT OF NO WHERE

Also, income from Cranberries is more *CONSISTENT* as you get several harvests per month instead of only _two_ harvests of pumpkins. A good steady cash flow will always beat a lump sum that you have to wait half a month for. This is why getting a coop off the ground during the first spring will do more for you than devoting your entirety of spring trying to specialize in growing crops, because by summer you could be pulling in daily passive income of a couple thousand which translates into 50k+ per month until you finish out your coop (then it's upwards of 250-300k of passive income).

What’s absolutely amazing is that his video was directly above yours in the reels, and I swiped down and here you were. It’s fantastic.

Speed-gro > quality fertilizer

I still tend to prefer pumpkins due to them being a better value/time ratio for my kegs, because I know there is no way I’m going to keg 380 cranberries year 1

So... Deluxe speed grow changes the math because it doesn't affect cranberry regrowth time. Pumpkins get 3 harvests instead of 2 while cranberries get 5 harvests no matter what(unless u have agriculturalist but artisan is usually better). Pumpkins will make more money and u need ¼ of the processing machines. Also they make pumpkin soup and is a loved gift for krobus, abigail and willy that can be gold quality easily. Also, large pumpkins also give more money, although iridium sprinklers are a bit challenging to get by fall.

I just watched the video where you and Seanie compete in Cranberries vs Pumpkins. And now the whole reason for it hits my feed.

Don't know jack about this game, but you know I gotta see more!

Pickled pumpkin, speedgro, cost: allow us to introduce ourselve

Look real world nobody likes cranberries they suck they're bitter tart and need obscene amounts of suger to be palatable but pumpkins everybody loves pumpkins. pumpkin spice, pumpkin pie, pumkin flavored everything and not to mention jack-o-lanterns on Halloween im providing a service to my town and the greater area as a whole you're shipping out improperly harvested doodoo berries

It’s interesting because when I drink/eat cranberries it makes my pee change colors

None of this will be resolved unless there's a public trial

"Which is better? pumpkins or crannberries?" Me: Pumpkins "but- you literally just watched a video about how pumpkins are better..." Me: i know. but I like growing giant pumpkins because they look pretty :)

So i guess Sean won that competition you were doing.

harvesting all those cranberries is just more fun! plus, they’re my favourite

Gonna need more details about 'cranberries beating pumpkins every time' when processed! Surely, less time/labour/resource-intensive to use pumpkins. A lot fewer kegs used, and refills required to get the equivalent money from pumkeens than crans.

I do half and half. Cranberries give me consistent money throughout the season while pumpkins can hold off and be processed during winter for massive bursts of money. I also still prefer pumpkins for processing because I don't have enough machines to do thousands of cranberries in year one, and I don't have enough patience to continue with cranberries into year two.

My problem with cranberries is is takes way longer to process them into jam than it does for the pumpkins due to the large number of them you get.

I recommend to put both cranberries and pumpkins into preserves jars instead of kegs. It gives slightly less profit but frees up kegs for more important crops and makes preserves jars more worth bothering with. (Also want to mention how stupidly expensive preserves jars are. 8 coal is more expensive than one oak resin and it costs 50 wood instead of 30. This means that many times kegs are easier to make)

Nah am I only one who just plants like a thousand amouranth bc that stuff sells well with how many times you get to plant it

Conveniently, you also don’t have to plant them multiple times, so the crop is slightly easier and better money wise in almost all circumstances

I only planted cranberries because of RTs playthrough. SEBBY!

I rarely have machine space for 1800 cranberries, but I can usually manage 500 pumpkins, that’s what it often comes down for me.

i just buy a bunch of every crop pierre will sell me and plant them all on the first or second day of every season lol. i do focus more on big money ones and regrowable crops but i like to keep my fridges stocked too ;)

Okay, but I don't want to have to plant again.

Maybe, but I don't really want to pick up crops that many times and even less process them.

Ah crap, I'm halfway through my first fall in a new game and only got pumpkins. Oh well, there's next year

I agree with seanie. I recently put all crops into a spreadsheet and pumpkins came out on top for fall crops, cranberries towards the bottom. The absolute worst? Coffee beans

If you're planning to sell the raw produce, Cranberries have a slightly higher minimum profit and a slightly lower maximum profit per tile farmed, but a much higher profit per seed packet bought. If you're planning on processing the crops, cranberries have much higher average profit both per tile farmed and per seed bought, but this assumes unlimited processing ability, eg infinite kegs. Assuming a limited number of kegs, pumpkins make FAR more money per unit of time spent processing.

I'm too lazy to process and even more to replant, so I just sell all cranberries lol

The thing on stardew valley I love: it depends everytime in the first years on how you play. I had around 800 crops in fall 1. But definitely not as much as I need to juice every cranberry, but I had a high farm level, bonus level from food and a lot of sap for free fertilizer. I only got silver and gold. In this constellation I earned more money with pumpkin and I had more time for fishing and mining.

And the beef starts! Mr mustache man VS fancy sounding voice guy *FIGHT*

I originally started with planting cranberries because I didn't like having to replant pumpkins, but went to pumpkins for faster money upfront. Dehydrators though have made me switch back to berries. I like not having to plant as often.

But you cant forget about how pumpkins jave a chance to make a large pumpkin which gives you instead of nine 15-20 pumpkins

YOU READ MY MIND! I was about to look up which I should use and if it was true that pumpkins were better. Thanks!

Who's making cranberry wine like scrubs?

But cranberries can't make pumpkin soup so pumpkins are better

I’m under 100 hours into this game and I was sus of that pumpkin reel lol. Glad I stuck to cranberries. Thanks for the closure. :)

Also got to take into account the cost of the seeds and whatnot (not sure if the g/d calculations already factor that in)

I like pumpkins for when I only have like 10 kegs at most or like 20 preserves jars, so I can make them without much extra. Also pumpkin products sell for a lot and big sell number make me feel yes.

I use the beach farm and hate running down to my bit of dirt with sprinklers so I just plant the pumpkins so I only go down twice

Abigail likes pumpkins and I hate trying to find amethyst in the mine so being able to grow her favorite item is free

Me who doesn't want to grow pumpkins a lot cuz they take half the season:knew it

Oooo throwing shade! Stardew valley youtuber drama incoming?!?!?

For me, I have limited machinery, and cranberries alone give too much crop to process, especially since I’m still processing hops, so it’s better to use some crop space for pumpkins because they can quickly be processed in the otherwise mostly unused preserve jars for the rest of the year, and the excessive amount of cranberries I have will fuel the kegs (after the hops run out of course) until summer, when I’ll throw extras in the seed maker and store some to make cranberry sauce or other purposes. Then I’ll fill the kegs up with my massive new supply of hops because they net the most per day in the kegs, and also the starfruit between the hops, so that they get casked and net me big money. Of course, once I have a greenhouse full of ancient fruit, I won’t put cranberries in kegs anymore since once I run out of hops, I’ll put in all my ancient fruit. Then, it’s enough pumpkin for the preserve jar to last a year, some extra pumpkin for pumpkin soup, and the rest are all cranberries to be sold raw or for culinary or other purposes.

I always just use speed-grow, because more harvests means more money, and if you have tiller then using good speed-grow usually gives you an extra 2-6 harvests depending on what your growing, and crops that keep can be multi-harvested usually get the best affect since you have them grow faster.

Allow me to get way too nerdy on this. Gold per day is not as useful as you may think. GPD is only worth calculating if youll be running it in a greenhouse or ginger island and theres better options for that anyway so really we're talking about making money on your first fall season. Also when doing a side by side all that matters is base values since keging or preserving just scales the values anyway, (slight exception for very low value items). This means we need to check pumpkinSalePrice: 320 vs cranSalePrice: 75 * 2 (you get 2 at harvest). As well as how many harvests you get of each pumpkins 2, crans 5. Then subtract seed cost. So your gold per season for one tile dedicated to each crop is as follows. Pumpkins: 2(320 - 100) = 440 Cran: 5(75*2) - 240 = 510 So over the whole season each tile dedicated to cranberries got you 90 more dold than a tile dedicated to pumpkin. Also Large pumpkins can happen, but you also get some bonus cranberries, large pumpkins could bring it back in pumpkins favour if you got crazy lucky, but it's not likely.

Only a noob sells crops raw, you gotta process everything if you’re trying to maximize profits. The problem with processing cranberries is that you need to cycle through like 5 times before you start to outsell 1 process of pumpkins. And idk about you but I don’t have nearly enough kegs /preserve jars to handle that many cycles by fall year 1. By the time I get my first harvest of starfruit from the greenhouse/ ginger island farm which is usually around early to mid winter depending on certain luck factors, I’m usually just then getting around the end of processing my pumpkins from fall. And from then on the only things going into my process machines are starfruit and ancient fruit. TLDR is its impractical to have enough resources to process cranberries over pumpkins even if it is hypothetically more money.

There is actually a bit of a distinction. When you have limited machines, it is better to put all pumpkins into kegs than it is to throw some cranberries in kegs and have to throw most in the bin unprocessed. Since pumpkins produce less units it's easier to process them all

Not to mention you can get like 4 harvests out of cranberries vs the 2 harvests with pumpkins

clever to use dust sprite sounds as laughter. very creative

Ok I agree that cranberries are better, but it's not by a large margin and abigail likes pumpkins so I tend to grow more of those than cranberries so I can get the relationship up and not lose much money for the ones I do sell compared to cranberries

my go-to was always coffee beans since making coffee was so fast and when you're not needing money you got SPEEEEEED BOOST

If you use good speedgro you get extra harvest, that means more berry and more wine which means more money.

Pumpkins are better for selling on their own or using kegs Cranberries are better for preserves jars cuz you get a bunch to keep them full

Pumpkins also harvest less often and thus you get less experience.

Sal vs Seanie contest: who can make the most money by the end of Fall selling only their chosen crop?

This is fun relax-a-time game and i want pumpkins

Ain't nobody gonna take my precious cranberries

This song sounds so familiar...man I forgot the ost 😱 Regardless your reels or shorts are always great to review my playthroughs with.

I like to sell my gold quality pumpkins, and pickle the rest. If I tried this strategy with cranberries, I wouldn't have enough time through winter to age all of them. By the time I get to year 2, I try to already be farming star fruit on ginger island, so the time it takes to age all of the cranberries wouldn't allow me to plant star fruit until later. For more casual players who don't plan to do most of their farming on ginger island by spring of year 2, I agree that cranberries are the best, but for me, pumpkins are the quickest way to get me ready for mass star fruit production as early as winter.

Big pumpkins exist

Cranberries make more cause it's regrowable crop you don't have to rebuy seeds everytime add that to the calculation

But you can just pickle the pumpkin and nearly double the value of the yeild (and ferilizer won't matter)

But how could I distrust that mustache?? 😭

It depends on if more people like pumpkins than cranberries because I'd rather have something I cam give to my friends at times.

One more tip: dont process your cranberries, put them in your seed maker instead. One berry yields 1 to 3 cranberry seeds that sell for 60g each, averaging a 120g per berry instead of 75 if you sell it directly.

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The fertilizer doesnt only affect one of the cranberries. It only affects one when you get multiple in ONE HARVEST. Meaning *EACH HARVEST GETS ONE CRANBERRY WITH THE BOOST*