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What's happened to the UK MOTORCYCLE market in 2024? 

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What is going on with the motorcycle market? Is it improving, ending, in a slump? Let me know your thoughts. (The comma in decisions was deliberate as a tongue-in-cheek dig at politicians intelligence).
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@fazerguy5654
@fazerguy5654 3 месяца назад
Bloody price of road tax for 600cc and above compared to most cars is disgusting doesn't help
@jerryorange6983
@jerryorange6983 10 дней назад
I had 750cc weekend bike. £500 a year just for the insurance and road tax was too much. I was doing less than 700 miles a year I don't even think about getting a weekend bike again.
@The1977andi
@The1977andi 3 месяца назад
People are realising you don't need a big bike weighing a quarter of a ton and full of fancy electronics costing £15k +, when a sub 500cc does 95% of what most people need.
@stevenwaight5199
@stevenwaight5199 3 месяца назад
Im lucky enough to be older and own a few bikes, one of the best bikes i own is a Royal Enfield Classic 500 its brilliant and was cheap as chips
@Richard-pe4cx
@Richard-pe4cx 3 месяца назад
voge and cfmoto
@pujapete3665
@pujapete3665 3 месяца назад
older people with the money dont want expensive mega heavy bike.they are discovering the fun you can have on a small capacity bike,very cheap to run also
@midlife-crysis
@midlife-crysis 3 месяца назад
It’s all the bloody insurance companies fault! Trying to get insurance is pure hell
@AaaaandAction
@AaaaandAction 3 месяца назад
Not my experience. I have two 750cc+ bikes and they are around £100/yr each
@pujapete3665
@pujapete3665 3 месяца назад
@@AaaaandAction depends on age and years of experience with clean lisence
@ripmax333
@ripmax333 3 месяца назад
​@@AaaaandAction 100£ per year 😮? Lucky you that live in UK, that would be around 250£ and possibly more here in Malta, and your not covered fully comprehensive!
@midlife-crysis
@midlife-crysis 3 месяца назад
@@AaaaandAction what lies are you putting on the application form? I’m 40, parked in garage, at home, 3 locks, 2 years no claims clean license and nothing less than £600 per year per bike!
@stuartosborn4785
@stuartosborn4785 3 месяца назад
61 years old . Clean licence and max no claims , plus had a bike insured for 45 years means I get good prices . Has to be some plus points for being nearly dead !!😃
@davidmacgregor5193
@davidmacgregor5193 3 месяца назад
Millennials don't seem to be interested in riding motorcycles. Baby Boomers like myself who have been riding motorcycles for decades are now in our late sixties and seventies. I'm now 68 and have just purchased a new BSA Gold Star 650 as a stablemate for my Harley Sportster, will this be my last new motorcycle, I wonder. So long as I can get my leg over the seat of a motorcycle, I will keep on riding.
@mrts.bike.adventures
@mrts.bike.adventures 3 месяца назад
Getting your bike licence under 24 and having to make do with 48bhp and then having to take the test again is ridiculous , it leaves no inspection or drive for young people and a very long road to be able to ride what ever you like
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 3 месяца назад
Very true indeed
@midlife-crysis
@midlife-crysis 3 месяца назад
Uk government really just don’t want young people riding bikes. Unless it’s a scooter
@markpavlowski7223
@markpavlowski7223 3 месяца назад
" Having to make do with 48bhp'....have you seen the state of the roads/price of fuel/amount of speed cameras, (new generation stuff, completely different ball game) general congestion, coupled with central Karachi driving standards..getting ins. Is a nightmare… I have a perfect driving/riding/ record/NCB ..the 'hikes this year are unbelievable's...48 is more than enough...
@mrts.bike.adventures
@mrts.bike.adventures 3 месяца назад
@@markpavlowski7223​​⁠I see what you’re saying mark but I really think it should be our choice to ride what we want whether that’s a 200bhp super sports bike or a 250cc scooter
@mrts.bike.adventures
@mrts.bike.adventures 3 месяца назад
@@markpavlowski7223also to add to your 48bhp is more than plenty, touring 2 up with luggage would be horrendous and not an enjoyable experience with such a weak engine.. courses for horses, Mark
@chrislark5855
@chrislark5855 3 месяца назад
High inflation and 12% rise in insurance , everyone is poorer.
@steve00alt70
@steve00alt70 3 месяца назад
Does this include young people or boomers?
@Bordpie
@Bordpie 3 месяца назад
That 12% rise in insurance is probably half due to inflation in itself.
@justkidding9751
@justkidding9751 3 месяца назад
This government regardless of conservative or labour has been making it more difficult to get a bike license for the last 20 years via taxation and insurance prices and cost of tests and training. They don't want us having bikes.
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 3 месяца назад
cons and labour are the same, just a diff colour - vote elsewhere
@simonfranklin7659
@simonfranklin7659 3 месяца назад
Ive been riding since the seventies and I totally agree with you.
@stevetaylor8698
@stevetaylor8698 3 месяца назад
I doubt that the "disaster of Liz Truss' budget" had any effect whatsoever. None of the changes were implemented and I doubt not 1% of motorcyclists could iterate a single issue which had an effect on them. I suspect the simpler answer is the aging population of motorcyclists and difficulty and cost of getting a motorcycle licence for young riders. That latter will only get worse under a nanny state which is what we will have after the next election. For decades, there has been a cohort of Labour MPs who are determined to limit motorcycle usage and in some cases, an outright ban of them.
@TheJamesvgnr
@TheJamesvgnr 3 месяца назад
Who are these Labour MPs-name them!
@stevetaylor8698
@stevetaylor8698 3 месяца назад
@@TheJamesvgnr The leader and most notable anti motorcyclist is the MP for Huddersfield, Barry Sheerman.
@Mrmaddog
@Mrmaddog 3 месяца назад
Always makes me laugh when I hear Liz Truss destroyed this or that because of her budget, as you say none of it was ever implemented and Sunak did far worse than that with people's finances.
@liamparkin3697
@liamparkin3697 3 месяца назад
Liz truss did have an effect, I avoided upgrading my bike due to the drop in purchasing power due to that swivel eyed loon
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 3 месяца назад
Factors in the demise of motorcycling include: a ridiculous obstacle course to get a license, negative propaganda against bikes, plunging used values, rising insurance premiums, theft, potholes, price of gear, lack of local bike shops, electric bicycles and scooters, bad weather (of which we've had lots in 2023/24). It's mainly an old man's game, in contrast to when those old men started out and biking was a young guy's hobby. Utility riding and commuting is a fraction of what it was, and then largely on cheap scooters.
@jfro5867
@jfro5867 3 месяца назад
Covid legacy, many people had money (from furlough) so spent on bikes, that’s now gone. Reality has bitten and let’s be honest, it’s war on the motorist, especially in the UK. I’ve had motorbikes for over 35 years now but tbh don’t ride that much nowadays, don’t think I’ll ever be without a bike but have to feel like it and mostly can’t be bothered.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 месяца назад
I'm just keeping Mine because I know if I don't have a bike how tempting it is to get own. It ticks a box. And I know if I can be bothered the bike is there. Did a few laps up and down the drive last weekend didn't make it out of the gates unfortunately. Got the engine up to temperature though.
@jfro5867
@jfro5867 3 месяца назад
@@chrishart8548 yea understand you Chris. Years ago I wanted to be out all the time on my bike, full days out riding all over the place. Back then the roads were much less congested, speed cameras weren’t even invented and everything was just easier. I only had myself to worry about so could be selfish with my time it didn’t matter. I’d rather take the dog for a walk because he enjoys it and that makes me happy.
@charlesbarnett2724
@charlesbarnett2724 3 месяца назад
Bikers are old and getting older. Very little sign of young blood coming through.
@triv7252
@triv7252 3 месяца назад
Too expensive, interest rates too high,poor quality roads and dangerous car drivers.
@MrMArsenal
@MrMArsenal 3 месяца назад
The problem with motorcycles now (especially in Britain) is the laws! When you're 16 you can ride 50cc, when you're 17 125cc. If you want a bigger bike, you have to do a full test. BUT...when you're 17 you can do you're car test and buy any car you want (if you can afford it). Which makes absolutely no sense! The law needs to change or the bike market will die!
@stewy62
@stewy62 3 месяца назад
There’s a theory that 50cc sales have collapsed because people are buying electric bicycles which obviously don’t require a license, insurance, road tax etc.
@stevesanelli90
@stevesanelli90 3 месяца назад
Very good stats Mark. Could you do one for the 2nd hand market in the UK? I think you’ll find your answers there. Cheers
@trustnuffin9121
@trustnuffin9121 3 месяца назад
Everything is collpasing by design
@leegould5306
@leegould5306 3 месяца назад
Electric bikes are the devil’s transport
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 месяца назад
It's only 23p to charge up though. Like travelling around for free. Gallon of v power is best part of £8 even if you get 150mpg it's still a lot
@Planet-Bertie
@Planet-Bertie 3 месяца назад
I don’t do Scalextric 😂
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 3 месяца назад
@@chrishart8548 and the resale value - that's why the agent's don't stock them - no obody wants them, even though they have plus points.. All EV's are controllable by AI - and that's why they were mandated
@Bob-ts2tu
@Bob-ts2tu 3 месяца назад
they would be no good for me to tour and do 200+ miles in a day, but i suppose for those that just wanna commute they have their place. Theres room for all of us, but the short sightedness of governments just aint thought it through, just like with most things
@jasonwilloughby5028
@jasonwilloughby5028 3 месяца назад
Bikes are too expensive these days,1000cc are useless on road , cameras everywhere , police everywhere, just not fun anymore .
@lestersmyth692
@lestersmyth692 2 месяца назад
The price of mainstream bikes has become stupendous considering for most of us it’s a hobby and a nice to have. I’m like many out there from the baby boomer era, rode for 45 years and been fortunate to afford most bikes I’ve wanted however of late I’m more interested in value for money products rather than the 20k plus behemoths. Chinese bikes have came a long way of late and currently have my attention so looking to order something for early next year.
@UnleashedCode
@UnleashedCode 3 месяца назад
Honestly the 90's 2000's they had it right. Bikes had way more performance than what was needed without all this unnecessary tech were affordable. Also motorcycling doesn't get the coverage it deserves on free or affordable media outlets. Track ticket prices have skyrocketed so less people are going to the track to see the bikes they would purchase as OTR versions of. Combine all of this with standard of living crisis, inflation, and a lack of prosperity in addition to just running and maintaining a car or two makes that joyful toy for the weekends and sunny days just out of reach for most. My opinion anyway. Used to work for Motorcycle City back in the day.... we sold out of the showroom around 20-30 brand new bikes a week. Friends still in the trade are talking 3 bikes a week now and none of their young staff think that what we did in the 90's is even possible.
@tonyjames2430
@tonyjames2430 3 месяца назад
Try looking at the Insurance !!!! It's a complete joke, and a total rip off 😞 63 yrs old, 20+ years held bike licence, looked up insurance for a Royal Enfield Meteor 650. Guess how much without a Garage? £2,800+ annually. WITH garage £580+ This needs to be investigated because it simply prices bikes out of the market. Similar prices for a Vulcan 900. Neither bike is a rocket ship. I can't even GET a quote for a Fireblade or an R1. I guess my riding days are now over 😞
@Thegeordiemonkey
@Thegeordiemonkey 3 месяца назад
I think insurance going up and prices going up so much have pushed folk to lower cc models, 125s are less popular for yoof as they like to ride surrons in balaclavas with no insurance, being able to wheelie with ya mates has more appeal if your not paying insurance, nostalgia being popular with retro bikes and recently retro race bikes are still a niche market, the budget bikes like Enfields and the new 400 triumphs are flying out the doors so no doubt other big brands will follow suit.
@eddale5557
@eddale5557 3 месяца назад
I se here in Norway too the sales of bikes above 500 cc is going down and the sales of 500 and below going up. A BMW 1250 is dead almost here no one buy that one even used ones!
@TheBezaleel
@TheBezaleel 3 месяца назад
June 2016 (Brexit vote) was a drop in the value of the British pound sterling by 20%. It has not recovered, therefore, the price increases have been dramatic.
@TheGoatfister
@TheGoatfister 2 дня назад
The end of cheap money and the exponential increase in insurance costs have been a massive negative impact.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 месяца назад
Mopeds have been limited to 28mph since 1977 its not to do with emissions. And all those 45mph electric bikes aren't legal to ride on the road.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 3 месяца назад
E-bikes true but as electric motorbikes are based on power and not speed, there is a grey area in terms of the power they put out and the speed they can achieve.
@Rance-lb1in
@Rance-lb1in 3 месяца назад
insuring even a small 125 cc can be as expensive as insuring a big car now, im 51 yrs old with a full car licence 32 yrs driving experience, and i looked up insuring a yamaha mt125 if i took a cbt, and the cheapest i could find was 6 - 800 quid . thats shocking. after 32 yrs driving a car i know how to read a road and traffic yet insurance is as if in 16yrs old on a moped with no road experience ? we are getting priced out of motorcycling. and cars making private transport extortionate tempting to force us all on public transsport. in essence having to live by time tables, taking our freedom to go where we want whenever we want, its the start of a very controlled future, the next is doing away with cash so they can monitor where every single penny goes to, its all part of global control. one way to get people of the road is by extorting the fees to own private transport. this is just the beginning folks.
@aidens04
@aidens04 3 месяца назад
Really interesting video. And thanks for not saying we're all doomed!
@shanemassey2039
@shanemassey2039 3 месяца назад
More people are buying used bikes may be the answer
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 месяца назад
So many used bikes on e bay and auto trader. If you try and sell you're competing with 300 other sellers the used bike market is swamped.
@pujapete3665
@pujapete3665 3 месяца назад
@@chrishart8548 not selling,classic bike not selling unless very special
@shanemassey2039
@shanemassey2039 3 месяца назад
@chrishart8548 totally agree mate
@mencewilkinson9625
@mencewilkinson9625 3 месяца назад
With so many great, used, low mileage bikes for sale at decent prices, it seems daft to buy new unless it's an all new model that's just hit the market.
@willyrackham2957
@willyrackham2957 3 месяца назад
Classic bike prices are falling through the floor ....it really is astonishing....pick a bike you have always fancied and keep an eye on some secondhand markets ...something is happening....I dont know what yet
@curlytheunacceptable.4298
@curlytheunacceptable.4298 3 месяца назад
I'm happy with my Suzuki cruiser, I've had it now for 14 year and it still draws 65 to the gallon the only reason I wish to down size and venture in to the 250 - 500 cc bracket is down to needing something a bit nippier at commute time locally, and as I travel the cruiser is ideal for those lengthier runs. As for electric, why would I expose myself to the risk of not being able to charge as and when needed especially as I live in a rural area, I mean that in itself defies the logic of jumping in the saddle and nipping of out to see the mates at my convenience, have you seen the near punch-ups at the car charging points in the towns between electric car drivers? And as some of the other peeps in the comments have pointed out the costs are rising and it does seem to me that the promoting benefits of smaller cheaper to run vehicles that produce less wear and tear to the roads not churning out the pollution a car does, is being organised by people who in winter see one snowflake touch the ground then insist on going home because they don't want to get snowed in.
@bearwolffish
@bearwolffish 3 месяца назад
Always love when we group by cc. So 4 cylinder zx4rr doesn't even make it in to 501-700cc bracket, while a twin cylinder r7 689cc which is comparable to the 400, is in same category as a 4 cylinder 600cc r6 supersport. Makes no sense but does help sell weaker bikes with bigger numbers.
@stevedavies-pp7dp
@stevedavies-pp7dp 3 месяца назад
I’ve noticed a huge shift by manufacturers towards twins , obviously it cuts their own costs but remaking things from the 60’s instead of ‘fours’ only lasts so long before people see through the hype and buy a second hand used real bike ???
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 3 месяца назад
Nathan postman said exactly that about the new CF-Moto 450
@lilynorthover8378
@lilynorthover8378 3 месяца назад
Increasing costs, mainly insurance and the licensing system, are delaying new riders but having been to the test centres several times recently, there is a steady stream of CBT and full license riders going through. The young riders are mostly starting at 19 but there are 16 year olds learning on 50cc scooters being bank rolled by mum and dad who are usually bikers themselves. I live in a high bike area, North Devon and there are still plenty of bikes around. We have 4 bikes in our garage and the last two were second hand.
@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555
@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 3 месяца назад
Older riders dying, the living ones looking bewildered at robotic styled overly complicated bikes aimed at much younger riders in other countries, riders we no longer have. No wonder smaller bikes & retros are selling. I'm 60, both my lads have been around my bikes all their lives, neither wants the hassle of gaining a license though....
@black8art
@black8art 3 месяца назад
The realisation that bikes as "rich boys toys" or as toys for ANYONEos not a wise way to spend your disappearing savings! Bikes as utilitarian transport are returning, as car ownership is following home ownership into the realm of fantasy!
@DavidNewmanDr
@DavidNewmanDr 3 месяца назад
The larger bikes (petrol and electric) are getting so expensive that dealers need to organise good leasing terms, like the new car sales market. Work out the running costs on PCP or hire purchase. Calculate the cost of PCP + fuel for the type of journeys you want to make. For city delivery drivers it is cheaper to run a small electric scooter or motorbike than a 125. But that isn't yet the case for bigger bikes with lower annual mileage.
@FlyingFun.
@FlyingFun. 3 месяца назад
I want to get back on 2 wheels after a 20 year break, Quite frankly it's all too expensive and dangerous on the roads and I'm getting put off by all the negativity surrounding motorcycles out there. Insurance is high, theft is rife, poor drivers and terrible roads and of course busy busy roads with roadworks everywhere. Where is the fun in that? I have ebikes which require no insurance tax or MOT and I can take them off road all over the place away from traffic and to some beautiful places, not have to leave them unattended whilst I explore the area if I just ride around, added bonus if I run out of charge I can still cycle home. Yet I still fancy getting a motorbike just for feeling of speed and freedome when the roads allow but if I buy a bike and ride it for a bit and then decide to get rid who will buy it? I've been watching some bikes that I'm interested in and they have not sold in years, literally just sitting rotting cause no one wants them..... I'd love a zero SR or a Harley livewire for a bit of local fun but wow the price and the insurance!!! Other bike I fancy is fjr1300 for some long trips, insurance not too bad on that and price used is reasonable but still tax £110 , new tyre every 3 to 5k miles , annual service etc etc , it's not a cheap toy.... Guess motorcyclibg is a hard sell these days...
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 месяца назад
The road tax is £117 now and will no doubt be even more next year. Think it was £82 when I bought my 650 in 2014. My insurance is only £47 a year. I want to get my son a 50cc but the insurance is going to be £800 and that's added onto my wife's insurance so not even his own insurance it's £80 if she just insures it for herself only. That's a lot of money to go 28mph
@steve00alt70
@steve00alt70 3 месяца назад
Alot of people buy motorcycles thinking that they will never come off the bike but as soon as they do they quit for good. You need to accept that risk when you buy a bike.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 месяца назад
@@steve00alt70 I've come off a few times it really sucks. It's like having your first fist fight. First time I came of was down a lane and I ended up trapped under the bike. The bike did surprisingly well again a dry stone wall but it was a duel sport. Second time on a duel carriage way and the bike flipped and went end over end I was almost able to keep running until I tumbled.
@steve00alt70
@steve00alt70 3 месяца назад
@@chrishart8548 I always go back and practice my basics that I done on my cbt.
@ismellbs9647
@ismellbs9647 3 месяца назад
Mate, your not ready for a bike....its not just about money and you only getting a bike of your short list....go ride brother , just go ride and enjoy it for what it is
@johannbraunstein1190
@johannbraunstein1190 3 месяца назад
Insurance costs are the main driver of the decline. The insurance for my daughter’s bike are nearly as high as the cost of the bike. A total disincentive
@mitchellnix5274
@mitchellnix5274 3 месяца назад
The price of big bikes is ridiculous. I have five bikes ranging from 125 to 850 cc. Together they cost less than my neighbour's BMW GS which he rides once a week for a couple of hours. Insurance is only part of the story. My multi bike insurance is £250 a year fully comp. I think most older riders have done the "by a bigger bike" thing and are now in the other side of the bell curve and realise that a smaller capacity and lighter bike can be just as satisfying.
@mikelacross
@mikelacross 2 месяца назад
When I was looking for a Zontes last year, none of the dealers near me were all that enthusiastic about selling me one & they had hardly any stock in! & then they dropped the price by £500 a couple of months after I'd bought it 😕 LOTS of figures on this video, could you do some graphs next time pleeeeeeaaaaaase 😁
@karloldham-fp6hq
@karloldham-fp6hq 3 месяца назад
Younger people aren’t interested in bikes, it’s just a sad fact. Paying out big money with the possibility of the ice market disintegrating in a few years isn’t an incentive either. Sadly the alternative don’t fill riders with confidence either
@JCRule69
@JCRule69 3 месяца назад
There are enough quality low cost options in the used market to affect the new bike market, would be my view.
@jez6208
@jez6208 3 месяца назад
Electric bikes were always a non starter. Same as cars really. I have to drive an electric van. Absolute cack!
@monkeyzx9
@monkeyzx9 3 месяца назад
The people buying sports bikes 10 years ago are now 10 years older, have a bad back, realise that you can’t use 200bhp on the potholed roads…..enter the adventure bike.
@Rogueonepigeon
@Rogueonepigeon 2 месяца назад
younger people don't have the money to spend unless it is the bank of mum and dad which lets face it would rather support the price of a car for safety and practicality. The bike market is dead in UK unless it loosens some of the restrictive barriers to entry, remove A2 and increase A1 to around 250cc, and then A1 automatically turns into progressive license for the full A Eventually, the Moto market will just start making bikes which find loop holes to increase the power, they already have with Zero etc producing power over the 15HP limit but still fall within CBT and A1, why make it difficult for everyone when they can just open the market up.
@paulprosser4108
@paulprosser4108 3 месяца назад
The main group who ride motorcycles are now getting a little old to say the least, me included sadly.
@kirankilgannon8987
@kirankilgannon8987 3 месяца назад
So the question is how are young people afford these insurance premiums same as them running around in big engine cars
@zenmoto369
@zenmoto369 2 месяца назад
I just want to get my license soon get a bike and ride away from all the madness the world is right now!
@TheAdamRawks
@TheAdamRawks 3 месяца назад
Insurance. Bike theft. No quiet roads.
@rupertbollywood1190
@rupertbollywood1190 Час назад
Electric bikes don't substitute for motorcycles, because bikes do a lot of heavy lifting. Even manufacturers don't really understand this. It has to feel and sound like it's alive. Why? Because after a certain age that's all many of us have got. That and/or dogs.
@teamtempest844
@teamtempest844 3 месяца назад
Slowly dying out...
@zaddaz570
@zaddaz570 3 месяца назад
Maybe it’s a finance percentage when you’re paying anywhere from 12% to 25% to own a bike which is worth £12,000-£15,000
@MrMoto948
@MrMoto948 3 месяца назад
When you pommies talk insurance is that comprehensive or required for rego? I insured one bike only 35 years ago for 6 months comprehensive. Needed it for a loan. In OZ au$160 rego, au$380 for 3rd party personal injury insurance on a 900cc. Saved $30k over those years even with a couple of scrapes. Insurance is for the bourgeoisie. Live life, worry free. Tomorrow never comes. I do spend up to 5% of purchase price on security at the time of purchase. Got half a dozed chains, CCTV on my bike from 3 angles. Alarm...
@anthonybrown4874
@anthonybrown4874 3 месяца назад
Personally I bought a triumph speed 400 to do some of my commuting mileage on as its fast enough ok on fuel and new @£5k seems decent value. Haven't got a use for anything much larger and the 125cc stuff or 20 bhp leave you struggling to get past anything. Electric motorcycles are waiting for more energy dense battery tech to come along to provide decent range and lower the cost it's a matter of time and technology catching up if you consider the weight of battery as a% of overall weight its coming just not now even the best electric bicycles only get yo 50-60 miles.
@Paul-lc4io
@Paul-lc4io 3 месяца назад
Actual (rather than asking) selling prices of second hand bikes seem to be very low. Trying to sell a mint 3yr old popular bike with 3k miles and best offer I have had is a third of the new price...
@tifrap
@tifrap 3 месяца назад
Electric vehicles were designed for countries where electricity is cheap. Today the UK has the 7th most expensive electricity in the world, but only the 25th most expensive petrol in the world.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 месяца назад
As far as electric and 2 wheels are concerned I've been looking at the yamaha NEO-S its only a 50cc equivalent. If you get the dual battery version its £3100 and it goes 44-50miles. Thats not bad for a moped when it only goes 30mph and the key for me is keeping to the smaller roads when most are 30mph or 20mph anyway. Can still just change at a friends house only 23p to charge a battery up. Anything bigger or more powerful and the numbers dont add up. The price is ok the weight ok at 90kg. Only range is questionable. But a big electric motorbike still has poor range and is to heavy and to expensive. Electric cars are also not great when it comes to cost weight and range. But at least the weight of a car is not as much of a problem as weight of a motorbike.
@joebloggs2635
@joebloggs2635 3 месяца назад
Think the younger gen are going with the electric bikes and scooters for the fun. That and the astronomical cost of purchasing and running a motorcycle now is becoming more prohibited.
@paulcowell7588
@paulcowell7588 Месяц назад
Many people just don't have the expendable income anymore...paying 40 percent more for your mortgage utilities and food has seen to that..its also why no one is buying new cars..
@japfourme381
@japfourme381 3 месяца назад
Cost is the major factor!!
@smashinlad1970
@smashinlad1970 3 месяца назад
The problem with buting a new bike these days is that you barely get the key out of the ignition before some twat in a trackie pinches it.
@andyaptc2907
@andyaptc2907 3 месяца назад
skipped your electic bike details which was for most of your video. Love your normal bike reviews though!
@andrewdavies6240
@andrewdavies6240 3 месяца назад
Bike theft is putting people off
@moon_child46975
@moon_child46975 3 месяца назад
The games fcuked
@nortonrider9220
@nortonrider9220 3 месяца назад
People are buying used bikes which are much cheaper and barley used.
@davidbesant
@davidbesant 3 месяца назад
Go to any bike meet these days and the majority of people there are over 60! For young people, bikes lack practicality. Commuting on a bike is difficult (no secure parking) and frankly dangerous. Just listen to the trafic news "A2 closed due to collision between a motorbike and a lorry". This happens at least once a week even though there are hardly any bikes on the A2. I see 3 or 4 a day at most). Ending bike sales by 2035 probably won't affect many people. Existing bikers will be on mobility scooters by then. Sad, but that's the way it is in England.
@michaeljameslawrence2965
@michaeljameslawrence2965 3 месяца назад
Factor in hybrid and hydrogen engines and people confused over the usefulness of electric and the figures of motorcycles 🏍️ sales going down makes sense. Them factor in that bikers already only make 6% of road users but fatalities in accident is 80% it makes sense. Then factor in for a new car relative to size and practicality bikes seem over priced. My personal experience of putting me off biking is the constant ripping off from the Chinese 🇨🇳 motorcycle dealerships on new bikes. Factor in the green agenda and suddenly bikes still makes sense 😮all very confusing as all the trains are going electric and all the delivery guys use DIY electric bicycles 🚲 but I doubt maritime or aviation will go electric or will it ?
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 месяца назад
The road tax needs to be done differently for motorcycles. Let the ride through LTN's let them in all the bus lanes. And sort out parking for motorbikes. We want ground anchors maybe a chain attached to a post and cctv. I'm sure motorcycles could be part of future transport.
@michaeljameslawrence2965
@michaeljameslawrence2965 3 месяца назад
@@chrishart8548 I know-i have been doing food deliveries in my town for the last 10 years on bikes and they have red routes where the electric trams were 100 years ago and believe me by the number of tickets I have had and mentioning these things to the council they are not one bit interested-i have also read there transport strategy till 2040 with things about electric shuttle buses and electric charging drone bays for delivery drones-the world is going mad and no one is in touch with the reality of these things-i am also part and a member of Reading cycle campaign and these issue are flagrantly being ignored maybe because of the consecutive austerity measures over the years, what I find interesting though is Reading the Apple green report who have invested heavily in green energy projects like solar and wind farms and having a gross domestic produce higher then the United States government and being a very young company in relation has a zero impact carbon footprint-will the governments ever reach this-i think the answer is a resounding no
@alanprice9938
@alanprice9938 3 месяца назад
Was generally an informative vid, until you got to the silly and somewhat childish comment on people not knowing what they’re offended by…… pretty sure they know, and pretty sure you know too. Was literally about to subscribe until I heard that. Regarding electric, I think you are right that it’s the time to charge them that’s the issue - I’d have bought at least one by now, but charging infrastructure and inconvenience just detracts from all convenience and “spur of the moment” fun. ADV’s that can beat a sports bike, and that are just so good in every way, apart from wind noise around the lid, with wide, easy bars, some even look cool, with all the tech investment, just beg the question as to why buy anything else.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 3 месяца назад
If you don't want to subscribe because I have had enough of the 'trend' that is being offended by everything society we live in then fair enough. Even though it is true. So many of the eants and protests around today are not thought through discussions, Unrealistic arguments and smothered with hypocrisy.
@alanprice9938
@alanprice9938 3 месяца назад
@@motorsforthemasses when you make an assertion that it’s true, then to have any credibility you should substantiate that assertion, otherwise you just come across as one of the bitter regressives who is just kneejerking insults out of stubborn pride and fear of change. There’s no doubt some overplay their hand on “awareness”, for personal gain or avoidance of accountability, but you said it in the context of environmental protection, so maybe you feel human driven climate change is a scam, in spite of the exponential population growth, then maybe tell us why. If you’ve ever flown across the US, Europe, Southern Asia or the Far East, have you never looked out of the window and realised that for thousands of miles it’s impossible not to see the scaring of human activity on the earth, or the giant floating trash islands in the pacific (example link added below), or that the most isolated islands on the planet have beaches covered in discarded fishing equipment, then surely you can see the kids/folk you are specifically ripping into, have a very good point. I love motors and have 4 bikes and several cars, but even I know they are right, and that I have to be part of the change in order to make my fun and adventures more sustainable. You may say you aren’t interested in this discussion, but you are the one who raised it and put it out there. theoceancleanup.com/great-pacific-garbage-patch/
@alanprice9938
@alanprice9938 3 месяца назад
@@motorsforthemasses did you delete my response? It’s your channel, so of course you are free to control it, but it kinda smacks of hypocrisy that you’d be offended by a bit of logic and a challenge in simple English, whilst criticising those who act offended. Thanks for confirming my suspicions correct.
@banditorunner6946
@banditorunner6946 3 месяца назад
A skewed opinion of young people. Too much BBC. Most young people do not care about the environment, they don't have the money nor incentive to get a bike on the road.
@stevenyates6732
@stevenyates6732 3 месяца назад
There are some bargains on new bikes to be had
@philipshore6924
@philipshore6924 3 месяца назад
Yoofs want electric scooters, and that means the tiny wheel things with no seats. No helmet to mess up your hair, cheap to run, and illegal pavement and road riding to annoy OAPs. What's not to like.
@davemonday5381
@davemonday5381 3 месяца назад
Bike manufacturers are in trouble because they don’t listen to customers. chase new customers younger generations who don’t want to ride dangerous motorcycles. And In doing so make bikes that look cheep from China / India. That my generation don’t want so we buy well made iconic used bikes so classic bikes are now very sort after and new bikes with ten performance modes and 8 braking another 10 handling mode make us feel nauseous so we buy real bikes instead and the fact they either go up in price or worse senecio is you don’t loose money is a plus. Name a good brand new bike and I’ll explain to you why they can’t give them away to the real bike buying public.
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 3 месяца назад
FFS the myth of Liz Truss' budget. Bailed.
@barriewilliams4526
@barriewilliams4526 3 месяца назад
If you had a mortgage, it wasn't a myth!
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 3 месяца назад
@@barriewilliams4526 I would look elsewhere for somebody to blame then not Truss. All your post says to me is that like most your just politically ignorant.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 3 месяца назад
Well, Truss didn't help and my point was, her infamous reign and mini budget may not have been that horrendous until you factor in the increase in inflation at the time and public distrust and scared to spend money era. Her 'efforts' had more of a psychological affect than practical.
@christianweller4288
@christianweller4288 3 месяца назад
@@clangerbasher Pork Markets………
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 месяца назад
​@@motorsforthemasses it happened before Liz truss was even in place. The truth is the market was in trouble they just realised how much trouble and blamed it on Liz. Don't forget whatever the media say the opposite is true.
@teggsy2165
@teggsy2165 3 месяца назад
50cc petrols no good compared to nwer electric bikes and scooters 28mph and they can't pull you off next doors wife. Sales up because of just eat fast food riders maybe ?
@steve00alt70
@steve00alt70 3 месяца назад
The lack of young people getting into bikes is cost the #1 reason. You never see a young person on an adventure bike. The old boomers are just not fit to ride anymore or just buying up adv's. The young people getting screwed again they cant even afford rent.
@Rosbif06600
@Rosbif06600 3 месяца назад
It's hard for younger riders to find the funds to get from learner to big bike as the UK economy continues to squeeze the money to the already rich. Chinese bikes make a difficult choice. They provide cheaper bikes, but is supporting the Chinese economy value when they support Russia's invasion of Ukraine and supply N. Korea with parts to make weapons to sell to Russia.
@thelonewolf666
@thelonewolf666 3 месяца назад
youll all be driving evs and electric scooters and eating tofu as the woke are running the show---god help you
@nigel274
@nigel274 3 месяца назад
£10 a month for my CB1300S 😂
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