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What's Hidden in The Carpenters 'We've only Just Begun'?? 

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That fun moment when you forget the name of a musician you really like. Please forgive every time I call Richard Carpenter 'John' HAHA
HELLO and Welcome to STEM TOURS! Come with me as I talk you through the multi-tracks for The Carpenters 1970 hit 'We've Only Just Begun'. If you've never heard of The Carpenters then I suggest you go and educate yourself ASAP. A power house Brother-Sister Duo and 70's supergroup.
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@brucemorrow5271
@brucemorrow5271 2 года назад
Richard Carpenter 😁
@FavoriteMovieDate
@FavoriteMovieDate Год назад
So nice to hear/see the artistry of Richard Carpenter highlighted. He has taken back seat to his incomparable sister all these years but The Carpenters would not have had that overall heavenly feel without him. Both these siblings were musical geniuses.
@drumbelly
@drumbelly Год назад
The legendary Hal Blaine on drums and Joe Osborne on bass. Coupled with Karen’s greatest voice ever and Richard’s beautiful arrangement you’ve got the perfect pop song. Thanks for this, Scott in Philly.
@MrKevinp0
@MrKevinp0 Год назад
Fun little fact. We've Only Just Begun started life as a jingle for a bank. Richard saw the commercial and made some calls to confirm who the writers of the song were. He contacted Paul Williams and Roger Nichols, and turned that jingle into arguably one of the Carpenters biggest hits!
@fujifrontier
@fujifrontier 11 месяцев назад
You’ve got a long way to go. Let us help you get there. Crocker Bank
@1968STB
@1968STB 2 года назад
Karen's voice on this never fails to give me goosebumps such clarity. We need to mention this was all done on analogue equipment and reel to reel tapes, how you were easily isolating and highlighting sections wasn't at all simple back in those days. Loving going through your reviews loving your style!
@TheLarryBrown
@TheLarryBrown Год назад
Yes, actually it was that simple back then. They were using the same set of tracks that this lady is using, aka the multi-track masters. No they couldn't jump back and forth in time instantly like this lady can, they had to allow the tape machine to rewind or forward the tape, but yes, they could "solo" a desired track the same way done here.
@donnahdunthorn5207
@donnahdunthorn5207 Год назад
This song is in the Grammy Hall of Fame for "lasting quality."
@eggy1962
@eggy1962 Год назад
the Carpenters are my music gods, anything you review on them is magic
@jeffmorton9220
@jeffmorton9220 4 месяца назад
These songs resulted from two musical geniuses of the 1970s, Karen's voice as lead singer, and both Richard's backup vocals AND his ability to arrange their songs into the worldwide hits they were. His productions often used over-dubbing technics which were a rarity of that time. Where he got these visions was a product of his genius.
@briankettleson290
@briankettleson290 Год назад
And no auto tune like most performers use today. Karen was known as one take Karen for a reason.
@teamcougars
@teamcougars Год назад
And she was a boss on the drums too ❤❤ 40 years since the world lost her and no one to this day can compare to her voice.
@alegramonticelli6038
@alegramonticelli6038 10 месяцев назад
@@teamcougars She's the only one who really comes close to her - but still: different ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5ZfW7ib-2AE.html
@nerkoids
@nerkoids 3 месяца назад
The mono piano is the actual original piano from the 1970 version. The stereo piano is a re-recording Richard did in 1985 for a remix that was issued in 1986 (and was used for other compilations later on - it contains a few flourishes not present on the original piano track). Richard did a lot of these piano re-dubs for re-releases and compilations, especially through the 1990s because he didn't like the sound quality of the piano (most of the time, the piano was recorded in mono and sometimes sounded very boxy)
@michael6185
@michael6185 2 года назад
Joe Osborn, of the Wrecking Crew, plays bass.
@andypartridge800
@andypartridge800 Год назад
They were just incredible. Karen's amazing clear vocals, and RICHARD's vocals, piano and arrangements
@Coupydog
@Coupydog Год назад
Hi Emma, thank you for presenting this. It highlights the genius of Richard's musical arrangements & Production. He was a true prodigy in Pop Music & his work has stood th test of time!
@DaNieloBaCa
@DaNieloBaCa Год назад
Loved this!!! But his name is Richard Carpenter. Not John!!! Hahahah ❤️
@jamesdrynan
@jamesdrynan Год назад
Lovely to hear all the individual tracks of this classic! Blaine really gets funky for the bridge with Osborn. What an arrangement!
@smitty8663
@smitty8663 Год назад
That lovely voice was blessed with perfect pitch. A very rare gift indeed….
@mikeburton9987
@mikeburton9987 2 года назад
Wow this is amazing. The best female vocalist that ever has lived imo and a fantastic drummer too. Karen did all the drumming on the early tracks.
@TheLarryBrown
@TheLarryBrown Год назад
Just on the first album. After that she didn't record much drums at all.
@fool4singing
@fool4singing Год назад
Actually, Hal Blaine did most of the drum tracks on their 2nd, 3rd and 4th albums.
@jbs256
@jbs256 4 месяца назад
Karen did Offering/TTR and Now & Then, except Jambalaya was Hal.
@richarddeese1991
@richarddeese1991 Год назад
Thanks. These days, groups that can harmonize are a novelty. Growing up, I listened to The Carpenters, Simon & Garfunkel, Journey, Queen, The Eagles, Styx, and so many other bands that had real singing musicians! What a concept. I've always said that if I had a band, we'd have to truly be able to play & sing live. Also, Karen Carpenter had one the most naturally & effortlessly beautiful voices in recording history. I've got their 'Best of'. tavi.
@deborahdesigner3226
@deborahdesigner3226 Год назад
I absolutely LOVE how you allowed us to hear the sounds individually!!!! They were the BEST!!!!! Thank you for doing this!!!!!❤️
@GrasshopperNotes
@GrasshopperNotes Год назад
Hal Blane, who played on most of the Carpenters songs, was also the drummer on about 5000 songs mostly from the late 50s through the 70s. He played on too many big songs to name. Karen Carpenter is arguably the best female vocalist of all time. Her range is incredible and her voice is like butter. Her brother Richard is one of the most under rated composers, arrangers harmonizers and keyboard players. He was a genius who knew how to showcase his sister's incomparable voice.
@andycharlton6798
@andycharlton6798 Год назад
Hal Blaine. Someone once said, "The biggest shock I ever had in my life was when I found out that my 10 favourite drummers were all Hal Blaine." He played on so much in the 70s. The Beach Boys, The Monkeys, Simon and Garfunkel, Frank Sinatra, TV Themes, Movie Music... My hero!
@bt60613
@bt60613 4 месяца назад
Not to forget former Mouseketeer Cubby O’Brien on the drums
@TheNaomi84
@TheNaomi84 2 года назад
I love this song so much, it was amazing to hear it completely broken down. Karen has the most incredible voice. Thank you for this, Emma. I look forward to more tours! X
@LyndAnneCromar
@LyndAnneCromar Год назад
I have loved the Carpenters from the beginning I have never seen anyone break it down. They did this all analog!
@brenthancock7118
@brenthancock7118 2 года назад
Wow, just wow. Now, what they made sound so subtle, underneath shows all their talents along with the Wrecking Crew....sound so sublime.
@TheLarryBrown
@TheLarryBrown Год назад
Richard was the genius and total brains. The wrecking crew are just technicians. Frank Lloyd Wright is the genius architect, the brick layer, no matter how good he is, is just labor.
@mbowden78
@mbowden78 2 года назад
Great content. I look forward to what you have to offer to this platform.
@cmdrvex
@cmdrvex Год назад
I love the way Karen's mic picks up every little discreet noise from her lips and not just her notes.
@TheLarryBrown
@TheLarryBrown Год назад
The compressor does that. I like how we can hear the breaths she takes, and you can also hear that on some of her live tracks. She took fast deep breaths and she was a little loud with those. At first Richard used to edit out some of those breath noises, but later he realized they contributed to desired intimacy. Compressing a track reduces the volume of the louder portions, thereby reducing the average volume of the track, so then you can turn the volume of the track up louder on the mixer. One effect of that is it increases the volume of softer sounds, making them more audible than they would normally be. Being too aggressive with the compressor causes the vocal to sound "processed," and I have heard it used that way on some tracks on "Made in America." Given that Karen is such an excellent singer, that "processed" sound is not right for her, detracting from that "warm" and "intimate" sound she's so good at. Poorer singers may need that sound, with Alan Parsons using a heavily compressed sound, e.g. "I am the Eye in the sky." Jeff Lynne of ELO used that sound to simulate the sound of a telephone call on "Telephone Line," in fact he seems to have been inspired to write an entire #1 song based on the effect. John Lennon did not like the sound of his voice on tape and would ask for heavy processing, and you got that heavily compressed sound from him on some tracks, including "Revolution" and "Lucy in the sky with diamonds." Because of the care taken by George Martin, the results there were always stellar. In "Lucy in the sky with diamonds," the verse is heavily compressed and then the chorous is not, giving a shocking "screaming" quality to the chorous, to great effect.
@markr.devereux3385
@markr.devereux3385 4 месяца назад
She also has a little soCal regional accent or possibly connecticut where she grew up. Richard has a beautiful voice also. What a duo ?
@1717Wlt
@1717Wlt Год назад
First video of yours I’ve seen and it won’t be the last. Learned so much - and appreciate your bringing this great music to a wider audience. Truly grateful!
@garyanderson4653
@garyanderson4653 Год назад
So glad I found this - years after you produced it. One of my all-time favorite songs, and absolutely the best Carpenters song. So great to hear the stems, taken apart and had light shone on them. Thank you for this...
@MaestroAleks
@MaestroAleks Год назад
Love it. Thanks for this wonderful journey. My respect to the Carpenters is increasing every time I watch deep analysis like this. Subbed!
@scottlurken9667
@scottlurken9667 Год назад
Hello 👋🏻, I just found your channel and it is FANTASTIC!!
@aisle_of_view
@aisle_of_view Год назад
One of the few singers that makes me tear up when I hear her voice. It's the combination of beautiful delivery, perfect vibrato, and a deep sadness which permeates everything she sang.
@davidsheriff9274
@davidsheriff9274 11 месяцев назад
Well said. She is the only singer that ever made me cry. I still can't listen to "I won't last a day without you" without getting a little Verklempt.
@thomastimlin1724
@thomastimlin1724 Год назад
I never noticed before and I am a former school music teacher, lol: The opening 4 bars seem out of tune between the clarinet and the piano, then straightens itself out. Background vocals using a Major triad with major 7 and a 9th on top. The singing by the Carpenters on these is stunning and effortlessly in pitch, blending, and even the vibrato is matching well when they use it. How many screaming guitar bands know wtf a chord like that is and can they sing that in perfect tune like here, no auto tune? Not very many no matter how fast their fingers or how technically good on each instrument they are is my guess. One Note: when we study the computer charts and listen and watch, we may be missing the musicality part, of dynamics pp to fff, the up and down in volumes for musical variety and interpretation, so sorely missed in most pop and rock tunes. Carpenters paid attention to details musically that most did not. And are we now listening with our eyes on a computer chart, rather than our ears and our "heart? " Hal laine on drums? Or was it Karen...she was THAT good you know! Probably Joe Burns on Bass, he really "discovered them before Herb Alpert did. that's how the GOT to Herb Alpert of A and M records and Tijuana Brass fame. Richard Carpenter is a genius pianist and arranger. I have tremendous respect for him, a tragedy he lost his sister, more than I could describe except I lost my younger brother 2 years ago to a heart attack.
@waynea4414
@waynea4414 Год назад
This is the best reaction and breakdown of this song and The Carpenters work I've ever seen. Thank you, really loved watching and listening to this 🌞😁
@helokopter924
@helokopter924 Год назад
Great reaction and analysis. Im on my late 60s, so remember KC very well on the radio and TV specials. You mentioned their great harmonies. Every female harmony in all of her songs was hers as well, sang, then dubbed into the song by Richard. They were most successful in early/mid1970s when she received 4 grammys. She began, with her brother Richard, by playing drums. Recognized by 1975 Playboy poll as rock drummer of the year. KC's voice, especially contralto, was the best female voice - ever. No auto-tune, gimmicks, or screaming. Her studio nickname was 'one take', since she always sang a song once in studio without a single re-take. She sang to you with mesmerizing emotion, perfect pitch and enunciation. Her voice made you listen to her. She had no professional voice training. Paul McCartney stated that KC had an angelic voice and sang Ticket To Ride better than the Beatles. John Lennon told her at an LA restaurant "you have a fabulous voice. luv." She never knew true love, nor how good she really was. KC was a one in more than a generation female vocalist. She had a few friends, including Dionne Warwick. She had serious onset of anorexia in 1975 that continued the rest of her life. She died Feb 1983 at 32yo due to complications from anorexia.; [Some facts taken from the documentary; 'Only Yesterday']
@kirksmithbass
@kirksmithbass Год назад
Great job..you put in a lot of work here, and it's much appreciated! I enjoyed the way you presented it.
@rover8783
@rover8783 Год назад
Hey, Sounds Like Emma, thanks for uploading this Carpenters stems tour. I'm only seeing this today. Wow!! I have a newfound respect for what Richard Carpenter did to arrange "We've Only Just Begun" and Karen's vocals are so understated but swells with emotion at the same time. And the harmonies? I could listen to KC and RC harmonize all day long. Do more Carpenters if you can.
@glenrotchin5523
@glenrotchin5523 Год назад
Fun fact: The song was written by Paul Williams and Roger Nichols for a television ad for a bank.
@tomjones2348
@tomjones2348 Год назад
Thank you so much for doing this! Richard was a genius. Karen...just amazing.
@twickshot
@twickshot Год назад
Thank you Emma, I have learnt an incredible amount from you about these two wonderful songs (We've Only Just Begun and Stayin' Alive). I had never imagined there was so much to discover there, but the way you drill down into them and lay everything out shows that they have the complexity of a Mahler symphony. And your obvious love for this music, and joy and enthusiasm in wanting to reveal its hidden beauty, are infectious and irresistible. I hope you do lots more of these when you can!
@mikemorris5074
@mikemorris5074 Год назад
Emma this is awesome thanks for the great breakdown of the tracks and i loved the Hal Blaine groove. Karen Carpenters voice just melts your heart..so good.
@Rob2
@Rob2 Год назад
Amazingly this song was composed for a TV commercial for the Crocker bank! There are 3 different commercials with different parts of this song as a background, showing a pair getting married, the guy getting a new job, and the pair moving to a new house. And the bank would help them with that (in reality they didn't, it was more a savings/investment bank than one issueing credit to young people, and the commercials were short-lived). The version in the commercial was rough, but Richard Carpenter contacted the composer to make his own version. Which is the amazing work we have here.
@daviddrevicky5516
@daviddrevicky5516 2 года назад
Thank you so much for showcasing Richard and Karen’s incredible talent. Richard’s beautiful arrangements and of course, Karen’s heavenly voice. Simply beautiful!
@cathyhudnall6742
@cathyhudnall6742 2 года назад
That was a fantastic breakdown of my all time favorite duo, thanks for doing that. I was lucky enough to see them in 1974, yeah I just aged myself. She was an awesome drummer in her own right. You just didn't see many females behind the drums back in the day. I was 11 and I begged mom to let me play drums. I joined band and not only would they bar females from playing drums but any percussion instrument! I settled for clarinet but taught myself by ear to play their songs. (The melody) KC's voice was as close to pitch perfect as one could get. I was devastated that February day in 1983 when they announced her passing! I think of all the beautiful music we've all been deprived of. SMH. R.I.P. Karen Carpenter. 😔❤
@frankm2588
@frankm2588 Год назад
Watched the entire thing. You are great! Your expressions were priceless. I've been re-listening to Carpenters stuff. Her voice was incredible.
@johnsimon2988
@johnsimon2988 3 месяца назад
Richard the arranger. Bang up job, he did in every song. Thank you Emma. You've given The Carpenters a wonderful spin I've seen on no other reactor. Fil, from Wings of Pegasus, is also interesting to listen to in his reactions. But yours is..., special. That's quite the program you've got. Fascinating. "...god dam good...". Concise and well said!
@jamesmcdunn
@jamesmcdunn Год назад
Emma, Saying "Richard Carpenter is the piano player of the Carpenters" is like saying Jonas Salk was a scientist! Richard Carpenter WROTE all of those Vocal arrangements!
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng Год назад
John Carpenter is an American filmmaker, actor, and composer. Although he worked in various film genres, he is most commonly associated with horror, action, and science fiction films of the 1970s and 1980s.
@kirkmcgee1
@kirkmcgee1 Год назад
Great breakdown!
@mdgraystone
@mdgraystone 2 года назад
I think somebody needs a Scooby Snack! 😆
@1125Mig
@1125Mig 9 месяцев назад
I enjoy watching you get so into the song. You seem to really enjoy all the intricacies of the music. Love your analysis!
@yinoveryang4246
@yinoveryang4246 Год назад
Nice video, I like you identifying the overdubs, Unlike today. most of the tracks still have DYNAMICS. The drums you can hear this in particular (for example, his snare is notably louder, which allows all the complexity of the drum part to "sit back"). Compression has become such of a fashion with modern production. It's one of the things that make life easier for a producer, but reduce the quality of music hugely. Of course they still did compression then with microphones and various techniques, but its super-advanced tasteful production really. Of Course these were musicians that could really PLAY also. I mean by this, their sense of taste and dynamics, partly how they trained themselves, learning to play acoustically, - it's better source material that people work with than people have these days.
@ChuckHackney
@ChuckHackney Год назад
Please continue to educate snd share the voice and arrangements of this amazing duo, esp. to your generation. Karen is in my opinion the greatest female contralto in the history of music. Her voice touches my soul, restores my faith and takes me to plains of calmness and happiness. No other singer has ever had this effect on me. It is magical.
@bruschmidt9943
@bruschmidt9943 2 года назад
Thank you for demonstrating this. Amazing how much work went into creating these songs. By the way, John Carpenter wrote Horror Films, you meant Richard Carpenter LOL. John C wrote the 1983 horror Film 🎦, "Christine" about a demonized 1957 Plymouth. Excellent author; completely different person. I'd like to hear a break down of their "A Place to Hideaway" , one of their most beautiful works they were justly proud of 😇 😎
@bruschmidt9943
@bruschmidt9943 Год назад
2nd Choice "Close to You" 😌
@Coupydog
@Coupydog Год назад
Rainy Days & Mondays
@jdrukman
@jdrukman Год назад
the film "christine" was directed by john carpenter. He didn't write the screenplay. The story was based on a novel by Stephen King.
@mu9687
@mu9687 4 месяца назад
THIS is the next best thing to time traveling to the sessions, which I would’ve given my right arm for back in the day! THANK YOU for sharing this delicious ear candy!!
@emattdat10
@emattdat10 Год назад
Just discovered you channel. I love music and the carpenters. I enjoyed watching and learning about this song and the arrangements. I am not that music savvy, and love to learn everything I can on behind the making of arrangements. I hope you will do more songs from them and other artists. Quick request would be to look into ABBA and do the same treatments shown here as you just did. Thank you for the lessons learned here.
@adamdrummer1991
@adamdrummer1991 Год назад
Landing on the major third for the interrupted cadence….woah
@alecepting1371
@alecepting1371 Год назад
Cool idea to deconstruct the music. Fascinating to see how complex it is.
@richdevlin719
@richdevlin719 Год назад
Yet another amazing session for the Wrecking Crew.
@videowatcher4006
@videowatcher4006 Год назад
Karen Carpenter was such the ultimate and perfect vocalist/musician who had that unique sound which in my opinion, can never be repeated. Thank you for sharing this video.
@jimbizness3864
@jimbizness3864 Год назад
Emma is a very perceptive musician! Exactly right about Hal's playing. It's busier than one would have thought, rhythmically straight, yet there's a hint of swing that makes it even more musical. The one thing that has always bothered me is the clarinet, which is sharp throughout.
@SuiGenerisMan
@SuiGenerisMan Месяц назад
Carpenters are the epitome of having Chef's Kiss musicality. Richard added a Cabasa during the last bars of Superstar (groupie). A FRIGGN CABASA - only someone with the finest ear, musical intelligence and respect for detail could ever add a cabassa effectively to that song. Did it need a cabasa, No but it adds just enough texture that it would sound wrong without it. You should do a whole series of multitrack videos on them - there's nothing like this on RU-vid and THIS is proper music appreciation worthy of these two people. Karen Carpenter was the drummer. She didn't do every drum arrangement but she did most of them and PLAYED DRUMS LIVE ON STAGE WHILE SINGING THIS SONG. Their studio musicians were the Wrecking Crew - the greatest POP studio musicians of all time. So much content to mine there - this is a great video. Led Zeppelin also did some amazing mutlitrack innovations in production
@davenelms68
@davenelms68 Год назад
Brilliant @ 17:03. Cheers to you Emma.
@johnperkins4269
@johnperkins4269 2 года назад
Loved the breakdown. Thank you for sharing. Great song, great arranger, and great singer. I’d love for you to to do their song Superstar.
@johnperkins4269
@johnperkins4269 2 года назад
Also he is Richard Carpenter, not John Carpenter. 😊
@andrealuvshouse
@andrealuvshouse Год назад
The Carpenters did not write Superstar. It was written by Delaney Bramlett. Delaney and his then-wife Bonnie recorded the song a few years earlier as “Groupie”. Completely different arrangement. It’s fascinating to compare Richard Carpenter’s arrangement with Delaney Bramlett’s original.
@PeterWilliams-kb1yn
@PeterWilliams-kb1yn 10 месяцев назад
I remember along with many others when songs like this emerged & it would simply blow your mind. I consider it to have been an absolute pleasure growing up to music like this & so many others. Great tribute Emma. Keep up the good work. Your work , opinions & offerings are one of the bright aspects of modern social media in what at time seems like a sea of dross….Drum on 👍
@stesker9752
@stesker9752 Год назад
Fascinating! Absolutely Fascinating analysis! If only my music appreciation courses could have been this thorough, this much fun and this engaging! Who knows where I may have wound up in a career. I grew up listening to The Carpenters. Relishing every hit and every album release in real time. I always knew they were genius. I just never understood how. Where did you come from? Thank you!
@noahleethatsme37
@noahleethatsme37 4 месяца назад
This is amazing. Please make more like this on Carpenters music. And Little River Band. I’m curious how their harmonies were constructed in more detail than what you can hear like this. LOVE IT
@Columba_Kos
@Columba_Kos Год назад
Your analysis is spot-on and refreshingly low-key. I subscribed to your channel and look for more of the same.
@mannylopez42
@mannylopez42 Год назад
I LOVE THIS!!!!!
@aleccumming4436
@aleccumming4436 Год назад
I love this so much, but is there any way you can flash the name “RICHARD” every time you say “JOHN”? John Carpenter was a movie director. Richard Carpenter is an important figure in the kind of pop music you’re celebrating, and deserves to have his name clearly stated throughout.
@trevorbayfield4006
@trevorbayfield4006 Год назад
Great video Emma, listen with headphones everybody 😉
@RobertHiguera-zi6tu
@RobertHiguera-zi6tu 2 месяца назад
I remember the Carpenters I like their songs close to you that's my favorite and love has just begun
@kelvynification
@kelvynification Год назад
The really interesting thing was that the song was originally a jingle for a bank.
@specialdudeable
@specialdudeable Год назад
This is fun to hear the music broken down in segments.
@karonsacks2773
@karonsacks2773 Год назад
Did u say John ? Was wondering.. but yes awesome 👏 love your work and yes they are incredible she had the best voice ever!
@ColinDrinkwater
@ColinDrinkwater Год назад
I grew up with music all around me and The Carpenters were definitely in there and played their part in the musical diversity I enjoy today. Those harmonies are just like silk being brushed over your ears.
@marknolker8811
@marknolker8811 Год назад
Richard and Karen Carpenter are musical icons !
@TheStevep52
@TheStevep52 2 месяца назад
I just discovered your ch (RU-vid algorithm) and I’m impressed with your analysis. The only other breakdown I’ve heard was Chris May’s which only covered how they stacked their harmonies. You go much deeper. I was a recording engineer back in the 70’s-80’s and I’m very curious how you obtained these multitracks?
@OldFartAndy
@OldFartAndy Год назад
Latecomer here. As an "original" fanboy (aka old fart) really enjoyed this breakdown. If this was only available 50 years ago, I'd have been locked in my room with headphones on and probably not come out til last year! What software are you using? Would love to dissect my entire collection. I met her in 1978 just as her health was taking a downward spiral, but the voice never left her. Glad she's finally getting the accolaides she so deserved but never really got while she was alive. She was also one kick ass drummer! Hal did the studio work, but on stage, when permitted, she rocked. Thanks!
@sharonraizor2839
@sharonraizor2839 Год назад
where do you get these multitracks?
@rlevitta
@rlevitta Год назад
I’ve always thought that it was too bad about the clarinet player being sharp the whole track
@lordtrimly
@lordtrimly Год назад
This was really awesome to see…thank you. I always get wim wams whenever I hear Karen.
@deborahdesigner3226
@deborahdesigner3226 Год назад
John Carpenter 🤪 Hi!! I love this!! I agree!! Karen’s voice is beyond beautiful!!! I have the same reaction that you do!! Can you tell me about Bob Messenger? He did the solo on “A Song For You”. What else? There is really nothing written about him and nothing mentioned anywhere about his involvement with the duo. I absolutely LOVE how you separated each amazing sound here!!! You ROCK!!❤️
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Год назад
Later in the duo's career much of that sumptuous multitracking went away, replaced with backing groups like The OK Chorale. But Richard revisited the multitrack harmony on his own for the intro to the second Christmas album (released after Karen's death) and for his 1987 solo album Time, especially the track directly in tribute to Karen, When Time Was All We Had. Incidentally the idea wasn't Richard's: he was inspired by similar work done by Les Paul and Mary Ford circa 1950...
@TheLarryBrown
@TheLarryBrown Год назад
The OK Chorale is absolute muzak garbage and any track on which they appear is trash, and the same goes for any Carpenters track were Richard did not do the arranging and orchestrating himself. He used Peter Knight to horrible results. I don't consider such tracks as "Carpenters." I deduce several things from that. We know that Richard felt overworked and felt the need to cut back on his responsibilities. I've heard him say "I was wearing too many hats" and also "If someone else can come in and do the arranging and orchestration, yeah, sure, get them in here." So we know that. But Richard had to know, better than anyone but by everyone anyway, that his arranging skills could not be replaced by outside contractors, so he knew full well that using outsiders would not give the same quality result. I mean he could have gotten superstar talents like Bacharach, Roger Nichols, Leon Russel, and Henry Mancini, and even then Richard had already proven that they can not do what Richard does. But anyway who could afford them, so Richard hired 5th rate schlock meisters. That proves what we also already knew, that Richard had quit, and "Carpenters" was done. It also shows something somewhat surprising, that Richard was willing to sacrifice his own stellar reputation, as well as that of The Carpenters, in order to fulfill quota and produce product, and make money. "Somewhat surprising" because Richard knew he was not willing to put in that work anymore, but there were contracts to be honored and money to be made, for just a little while longer, and how much is reputation worth when looking at several score million dollars available down the pike. But the most surprising thing to me is that on some level Richard must have thought that the styles of Peter Knight and the OK Chorale were good, and that's why he hired them. But I really can"'t believe that the man that invented a new, modern, superb style of such stupendous easy listening music could believe those hacks were good, so it must have just been about making that money. Maybe not so surprising after all.
@nikdel3151
@nikdel3151 Год назад
​@@TheLarryBrown How do you know this? I'd like to learn more about it.
@gLustig60
@gLustig60 Год назад
Listening to an interview with Richard, Karen recorded her doubles without listening to the original. That would explain the difference between the 2 or 3 doubles in terms of vowels, crescendos, etc. Richard said they always knew how long to hold notes, cut-offs, etc. but singing along with yourself did not work for Karen OR Richard.
@soundslikeemma
@soundslikeemma Год назад
Thats great to know! thanks for that =)
@carpenterscollector2910
@carpenterscollector2910 2 года назад
Brilliant video, loved your reactions and how you broke the song down, just one question though, Who`s John Carpenter :)
@soundslikeemma
@soundslikeemma 2 года назад
yup, sadly can't unsay it haha
@josephnickola877
@josephnickola877 Год назад
Wow, this was wonderful. I love the carpenters. We lost Karen way too early. She also was an amazing drummer. I love the way you break this down. Are you related to George Martin? Anyways, your facial expressions are the best you have music in your soul.
@deborahdesigner3226
@deborahdesigner3226 Год назад
Another song that is so amazing is there version of “I’ll Never Fall In Love Again”. That song would be awesome to break down as you did this one. ❤️
@aaimginggraphics2411
@aaimginggraphics2411 6 месяцев назад
omg i dont mean to rant but the way richard used suspensions and 9ths and 2nds was insane !....
@pwk22
@pwk22 4 месяца назад
From Wikipedia: Karen Carpenter - lead and backing vocals Richard Carpenter - co-lead & backing vocals, piano, Wurlitzer electronic piano, orchestration Joe Osborn - bass Hal Blaine - drums Doug Strawn - clarinet Bob Messenger - woodwinds Jim Horn - woodwinds Uncredited - tambourine, trumpets
@diwilliams2960
@diwilliams2960 2 месяца назад
But no strings?!
@Spitaman1
@Spitaman1 Год назад
Great video .....which software do you use to break down the tracks..thanks
@1cicmd
@1cicmd Год назад
This was amazing! What program do you use? It sounds like original source material. Is it just a regular recording? Please do more Carpenters stuff and Beatles, too. Also, The Mamas and the Papas would be interesting, too. I would love to share this with my primary music students that I teach, but I can’t because of the bad language. 😢
@MrRckstdy77
@MrRckstdy77 Год назад
I never noticed the Lisp of John Carpenter before.
@jbs256
@jbs256 4 месяца назад
Richard, and I did back in 1970. I have a similar problem, my tongue is held down by skin. He became my hero as he got past it and had the #1 song in the country with his sister. It inspired me to not worry about it and deal with it. Surgery at the time wasn’t an option and I’ve lived with it all my life.
@TomCee53
@TomCee53 Год назад
A few comments on the drum section. This was actually a session drummer. Karen does play live most of the time but they use a session drummer in the studio who does his best to play in the same style that she plays. I was learning to be a drummer in those days and I have to attribute much of my style to Karen and her Ghost double. You also mention how intricate and therefore how hard the strong part is but when you play that way all the time it actually just flows.😢
@jamesmcdunn
@jamesmcdunn Год назад
How did you do that? How did you get those unmixed tracks? I want to do that with every song on earth!
@tonylance8107
@tonylance8107 2 года назад
Love this! Since you’re a drummer I’d love to see you react to Karen Carpenter drumming: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H47v7yYRfjA.html
@carolynadams9537
@carolynadams9537 11 месяцев назад
I would really love you to analyze “Solitaire.” It is one of the best examples of Karen’s low register throughout the song, and I am curious about the tracks Richard used to focus so much attention on her voice. It’s clearly not acapella, but IMO is one of the purest renditions of her voice. Richard said that Karen didn’t like the recording as she did it in one take, but Richard thought it was perfect-I agree. She also did so much note stretching in Solitaire which is rarely done so perfectly these days without computer enhancement.
@Selenareznik25
@Selenareznik25 Год назад
I love this so much! I’m just curious what program did you use to isolate everything? I learn music by ear because I’m visually impaired but sometimes it’s easier for me to hear certain things when they’re isolated. Thank you!
@waynocook53
@waynocook53 Год назад
O the Carpenter's are wonderful!
@kelvynification
@kelvynification Год назад
If anyone is interested and you love Karen Carpenters ridiculously amazing voice, check out Rumer probably the closest to Karen’s timbre. A great artist:)
@lundsweden
@lundsweden Год назад
Its amazing that there were so many tracks on this song, considering it was recorded in 1970. I wonder if the just kept recording submixes from 8 track onto another 8 track, or were 16 track recorders available in 1970?
@stevefolta
@stevefolta Год назад
Hi Andy, surprised to see you here! 16-track recorders came out in 1968 (Ampex MM1000, I believe). I'm a lot less clear on when 24-track recorders came out, 1970 would surprise me. I'm counting 20 tracks here, but haven't worked out if they're just 16 tracks broken out into more. For instance, it looks like Karen's double and the clarinet could've shared a track.
@lundsweden
@lundsweden Год назад
@@stevefolta Sorry Steve, do I know you?
@stevefolta
@stevefolta Год назад
@@lundsweden You'd know it if you did, so you must be a different Andy Lund. Sorry for the confusion.
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