What's Inside This PATA SSD from Amazon? 

You're a legend mate! The work you do is totally epic!

That's correct! The Kingspec drive is slower because all data is stored in one nand flash chip (with a limited IOPS). Just for data recovery purposes the Kingspec has more chances to a successful data recovery compared to your design because the controller stores the data in the flash chips like a RAID controller (a pain in the ass reconstruct the integrity of the data by hand).

yup

Thanks for developing these SSDs!

Rockstar!

Not sure. He doen't show the actual result in MB/sec only the score (why btw?) - but it is only a "133x" CF card - which could in theory read up to 20MB/sec. In reality i would say more like 12-13MB/sec. Which is slow for todays standard. But the CF specification goes up to 160MB/sec (1066x). Thus could have competeted with the native IDE drives. Edit: Same is of course also true for the SD Card. I think he used a UHS-I.... while there is UHS-III stuff floating around.

the SD card would've been as limited if it didn't use UDMA and it did much better. CF cards are just obsolete.

I can tell you that that model of CF card is that slow. I have 8GB version of it.

CF cards have always been slow when used as a HDD standin, beyond DMA etc related things. I no longer recall the exact technical reason but it has to do with the layout and addressing that is part of the way CF works, even the fastest cards are slow at bursts of small ops compared to an old IDE HDD per my testing. Sustained data transfer is fast, but seek etc is absolutely not. I tested this extensively but quite a few years ago, also VS a CF microdrive which behaves like any HDD. It's not interface, CF is IDE pretty much, and behaves the same.

It is indeed a CF controller chip

He needs a big Recycling bin in his mums house ! E WAIST ! only keep the apple II, trash the rest, keeping the M2 as the daily gear !

@@lucasRem-ku6eb take your nonsense comments elsewhere

@@armanelgtron4533 You need the Roland MC 80 ? why you need it, not smart enough ? what did you meant ?

I kept only the old Machines we used at home ourselfs, nobody needs trash. Why keep it ? Nerdy issues, nostalgia of non social people ? Why junk trash museums in mums house ? I only repair them for creative people, FatBoy Junky XL slim people that need gear, hating simulating it. I see no need for this, why a channel for nostalgia ? all my Macromedia Flash developing, i did on these Alienware Fake Plastic apple machines, the worst apple ever ? But the company kept hem, good enough...We he loves that ?

It is actually surprising how good StarTech does those kind of things. Always expensive, almost never cheap :D lol

The one place it didn’t work for me is in a multitrack digital audio recorder. It didn’t do well in simultaneous read and write at that data rate and I got a lot of drive speed faults, it kept kicking out of record. I “upgraded” to a two inch 24 track analogue machine and have had great success, though I did have learn editing using a razor blade.

Probably something with the available drivers. After all, the og Xbox is just a Pentium 3 and Geforce 3 running Windows 2000, Microsoft went with common PC parts on purpose. Makes me wonder if it is possible to add support for other adapters to the system.

Right you are.

yeah the controller manages the multiple chips in a somewhat parallel fashion

@@Alpine_flo92002 parallel or interleaved ?

Yeah dosdude admits this in the pinned comment at the top. More is almost always better...

Interleaved.

Most SATA SSDs come with an SDRAM cache which the controller Dosdude1 used does not support. That's probably the reason the SATA disks are faster, especially in random benchmarks.

@@nilswegner2881 fair but does a cashe effect raw throughout larger than the cashe?

MC 80 is a very good suggestion, You can stream directly from disk without using the memory. If you have any issues, please let me know, it's a working solution !

Yes.On the Amiga 600 and 1200, it is necessary to use an external controller on the accelerator and the built-in one is obsolete in data transfer speed.Although there are improvements to the controller that allows you to speed up work, but it is still difficult for him to compete with modern solutions. I also have an Amiga 1200 as a retro computer. You can put a Morph OS on the Power MAC hardware and run amiga applications.

You're going to have to do a lot of computing on that device to have it wear out. I haven't had that issue and I have had some of my SSDs since they first started making them and I have yet to have one actually fail which is actually kind of lucky for me.

sorry thats not true. CF Cards were developed for mobile devices like PDAs, Cameras and small form factor laptops. CF first of all is an interface - thus says nothing about the storage technology. For example IBM produced a hard drive in CF Card form factor. CF Cards were most of the time NOR-Flash, later NAND-Flash. Those ARE Solid State Drives. You are drawing a line into the sand where no line is. The main difference between modern NVMe or MSATA drives compared to the CF Cards are the controller. They got more sophisticated caching stuff in DRAM to avoid writing on the Flash to often, mapping the physical storage to spread out write operations, having more capacity and swapping those around - again to reduce write operations on a single Gate. But from the flash perspective there is no huge difference between a SD Card, CF Card or NVMe drive. Also i disagree, you COULD use a CF Card for a gaming system, but you should avoid using those as a swap device or disable writing logfiles on those drives. Having a DOS PC with a CF Card is absolutly fine - the few created Save games does not matter.

In just about all aspects the CF card if you're running an operating system is still slower. It's because mainly it doesn't do so well when you have a bunch of commands like when you're running and operating system. It's still faster if you're randomly seeking data but again when it's impractical use it really doesn't make sense.

Oh interesting, I didn't know that could affect speed

Yeah that was my first thought as well. SSDs with multiple flash chips can use striping, i.e. parallelizing reads and writes to improve performance. It's why SSDs with less storage capacity tend to be slower than the same model with higher capacity.

This can also be seen in the M2 Macbook Air, it has fewer memory chips, and the disk IO is slower bc of that

@@ActionRetro The controller is 4 channel, so with 4 flash chips, it will perform better than with 1 - typical of SATA SSD controllers as well, so the 120/128 GB model will usually be slower. With 64GB flash chips, a 64 will be single channel, a 128 dual channel, a 256 quad channel and a 512 two chips per channel, with the 1TB moving up the chip capacity by 4x and going to 4 chip again

Much will depend on hiw much pcbway will charge fore delivering the cards pre populated ( unless you want to do the soldering yourseld) and how much the case and shipping costs.