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QLC vs TLC SSDs: Samsung QVO & EVO 

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QLC and TLC SSD comparison, including an explanation of how SSDs work, P/E cycle endurance, and performance tests of 1TB Samsung QVO and EVO 860 SSDs with Intelligent TurboWrite technology.
The Samsung QVO 860 1TB SSD tested in the video can be purchased from Amazon.com here: amzn.to/33y9rwG and from Amazon.co.uk here: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B078WST5R... (affiliate links). The prices are significantly less than those cited from the Samsung website!
The Samsung EVO 860 1TB SSD tested in the video can be purchased from Amazon.com here: amzn.to/2Z8O81r and from Amazon.co.uk here: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07KSHCG3... (affiliate links). The prices are significantly less than those cited from the Samsung website!
Please note that the SSDs shown in this video were purchased for ongoing use, and not were received as review samples. So this is not a sponsored video!
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@CH0015
@CH0015 4 года назад
You explain everything so clearly. Keep up the great work!
@mrkitty777
@mrkitty777 4 года назад
I want the EVO.
@maicod
@maicod 4 года назад
EVO's are cool
@CiscoPhipse
@CiscoPhipse 4 года назад
I know :-) He makes understanding this sooo clear!
@joseanderson-cuff6491
@joseanderson-cuff6491 4 года назад
I agree, he is a brilliant man and teacher as well. I love the way he illustrates his subject matter in his videos. Helps the persons who are not so 'tech-savy' to grasp what he is trying to explain.
@fantv525
@fantv525 Год назад
I agree.
@rickbhattacharya2334
@rickbhattacharya2334 4 года назад
I really wish they change MLC to DLC (Dual Level cell ) , but that may result a copyright infringement lawsuit from EA 🤔🤔.
@herrfriberger5
@herrfriberger5 4 года назад
And change _"level"_ to _"bit"_ (as the number of *_levels_* are 2, 4, 8 and 16, respectively).
@fulldnbboy
@fulldnbboy 4 года назад
No, defo not happening. They then would not be able to sell tlc drives so easily next to mlc to less knowledgeable person. Mlc means also tlc and qlc realy since multi word in mlc is very wide meaning word lol.
@catsspat
@catsspat 4 года назад
Samsung marketing is already more descriptive than other brands. They've dropped TLC nomenclature completely. Instead they say 2-bit MLC and 3-bit MLC. See newegg, for example. For some reason, though, they still use the Q in the QVO. I'm guessing it's because the drives aren't entirely 4-bit (16-level) per cell in operation, as it will manage them based on usage and available capacity.
@fulldnbboy
@fulldnbboy 4 года назад
@@catsspat right.... 2bit mlc and 3 bit mlc and 4 bit mlc, all are mlc so that the more numbers, the more people buy thing like always lol. tho 2 bit mlc is real mlc, other are tlc and qlc. but marketing team abused word "multi" in mlc word compination and adapted it to tlc and qlc since tlc and qlc do have multi level cells. just plain word play.
@glenwaldrop8166
@glenwaldrop8166 4 года назад
Your average Joe thinks bigger numbers are better so they'll likely buy QLC thinking it is better than TLC or MLC.
@batuhancokmar7330
@batuhancokmar7330 4 года назад
I think this "42GB cache" deserves some explaination: Both drives may truly have 42GB cache, but while writing such large sequential files, drives use their much higher IOPS capability to write to TLC/QLC and the SLC cache at the same time... We know QVO's QLC (as seen around 12:26 mark) is barely capable of ~75MB/s without using cache so here is the math: From the start of the video up until it slows down at 1.35 QVO drive had written 75 - 29= ~46GBs... Of which, drive write at its known ~75MB/s speed to as QLC (from the start) for first 95 seconds, approximately storing 4,4GBs worth of data.. Remaning data is 46 - 4,4 = 41,6GBs which couldn't be written to slow QLC, so it has to be written to 42GB SLC cache, filling it and then slowing down transfer to only what QLC is capable of... Since evo does exactly the same and writes to TLC and SLC at the same time, but TLC itself is much faster than QLC (roughly around 200-250MB/s), your 75GB test file probably wasn't enough to fill up its 42GB SLC cache... This is the exact behaviour I've observed from my tests with my own intel 660p... It doesn't "simply" fill up its 76GB cache (when 50% full) and then slow down... If I hammer it with burst 1.5GB/s writes it does just that (technically it probably doesn't but it doesn't make a noticable difference)... But when writing from a slower source at ~340MB/s, drive doesn't slow down even at 120GB file transfers... This dynamic cache behaviour matters a lot more than it would seem in real life use cases.. When transferring large a game for example, it has both large files and small ones.. My reading source is two SATA SSDs in RAID-0 configuration... If the source sends burst of sequential files @1GB/s, 660p caches them.. When source slows down ~60 MB/s to read hundeds of
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Great post.
@bmanske1
@bmanske1 4 года назад
Great post! You saved me from writing about the same thing. One differing point of view... I wouldn't call older SSDs garbage. They move to their proper position down the food chain. For example, I'm now using inexpensive low end SSDs with Raspberry Pi computers.
@SaturnusDK
@SaturnusDK 4 года назад
Great post. I may add that HLC (hexa level cells) drives are in active development, and PLC (penta level cell) drives are already being produced by Tobisha as an example. This trend will probably continue until OLC (octa level cell) drives at least since all it basically requires is higher grade of material purity in the charge trap layer, and refinement of the ADC read decoder. Writing is done by PWM (pulse width modulation) so that in principle has no upper bounds that are relevant for this purpose. What we will see in the future is even more intelligent controllers that can distinguish between different levels of cell damage because a future octa level cell may get damaged but may still function just fine as a QLC or SLC cell. At the same time controllers will do active data tier levels where data is only moved to persistent higher level cells once it's determined that the data is indeed persistent data.
@batuhancokmar7330
@batuhancokmar7330 4 года назад
​@@SaturnusDK Speaking of intelligent controllers... In the future, instead of controllers doing all the guesswork, I only wish there would be a lot more user interactivity while setting up the SSDs (in addition to some "auto" mode for less tech-sawwy people, of course).. Users should be able to select his/her movie archive folder an set it to write in QLC always (or whatever highest level device support), and set their, say, temporary render output folder to stay SLC all the time.. Windows already reports actual size and "size on disk" as seperate criteria so it wouldn't be too hard for non tech-sawwy users to understand.. Write MLC instead of QLC and "size on disk" will report twice the actual size. Also, "cache" size should be user adjustable. I have 450GB+ empty space on my 1TB drive, intel says I can only have ~70GB of cache.. Why? I don't care about longevity of cells and I would want to set this entire area as cache. Technically, SLC cache can encompass the entire empty space as data will be read to DRAM and then written as QLC anyway. With very little software tweaks for taking user input (which will be definately easier than developing "smarter" controllers) the difference between a pro drive and a entry level drive would disappear (apart from actual cell/controller quality)... You don't buy xTB drive. You buy X amount of cells. You are free choose to configure it all as 256GB SLC disk, 1TB QLC or 2TB OLC disk... Or somewhere in between, adjust write levels on folder-by-folder basis. Have both high capacity folders, and high speed folders at the same time on the same SSD. If you need more capacity, you sacrifice write speed or viceversa, you just select a folder right-click into some menu and adjust the slider.. This is my dream SSD at least...
@glenwaldrop8166
@glenwaldrop8166 4 года назад
What you just described will likely someday be referred to as "overclocking" your SSD. Custom firmware and give it hell.
@ivo4357
@ivo4357 Год назад
what a joy to hear a PERSON explain these things instead of a computer voice bombarding us with useless abbreviations without any explanation whatsoever. Great job, thanks.
@noeuro
@noeuro 4 года назад
QLC needs some TLC to feel better.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
:)
@KTHKUHNKK
@KTHKUHNKK 3 года назад
@@ExplainingComputers I love how you just know your stuff so well. Keith Kuhn
@redshift3639
@redshift3639 3 года назад
Hah! love it! Would never have spotted that pun!
@Poire33
@Poire33 3 года назад
Great pun. More seriously though, both drives have that SLC cache.
@johndripper
@johndripper 3 года назад
@Gea Sih PLC is in works 🤪😈
@speedfreakpsycho
@speedfreakpsycho 4 года назад
i wish all of my teachers were like this guy, i would've actually learned something.
@BogzTemplates
@BogzTemplates 4 года назад
true!
@remace07
@remace07 3 года назад
you wish all of your teachers would fly over all subjects, telling things, but not practicing anything... well You just didn't undestand the difference between a youtuber and a teacher.
@1invag
@1invag 3 года назад
Did you try listening instead of daydreaming and tossing it off? Lol stupid question I know, you were probably tossing it off. Then few years later try to pin the blame on someone else... Like we all invariably do 😇
@daniDEE_tv
@daniDEE_tv 3 года назад
I agree. I learn the most from this channel myself everytime clearly understanding the "works" behind the hardware knowing what makes the difference in future "better" revisions to consider finding best for the price i want to spend be happy with get most perfomance pout the part for price - thanks to this channel once again
@kevinsjournal
@kevinsjournal 4 года назад
I came originally planning to skip to the last 5 mins to see which was better, but got my attention and ended up watching the whole thing, actually made it super interesting!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@coinexchange1761
@coinexchange1761 4 года назад
This channels has legendary quality content. It is extremely concise and well produced.
@norfilmshetland
@norfilmshetland 4 года назад
What a lucid explanation. Clearly stated, no waffle - exactly what I was looking for!
@earlstone2374
@earlstone2374 4 года назад
Thanks for the many videos you make and all the information you pass on .
@thevortexATM
@thevortexATM 4 года назад
most thorough exposure of the drawbacks of these QLC drives that i have seen, great video
@geoffreyjohnstone5465
@geoffreyjohnstone5465 4 года назад
Wow, thats incredibly informative. I really enjoyed that. Hoping for more of this type of content from you, CB
@nullzero821
@nullzero821 4 года назад
Samsung engineer: we made a drive that stores data on it Samsung marketing: we made a drive that makes a difference lol
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Nice.
@symphonia277
@symphonia277 4 года назад
Nice.
@tuunaes
@tuunaes 4 года назад
Correction: Samsung's marketing makes people pay same GB price as higher up drive of other makers.
@Robin-sf3gk
@Robin-sf3gk 4 года назад
I understood the SSD makes a difference compared to other hardware upgrades in a system.
@KrishnenduBiswas
@KrishnenduBiswas 4 года назад
Your video contains lot of technical information. Keep posting this kind of videos. Really appreciate your work. Thank you.
@alaninbliss
@alaninbliss 4 года назад
This is vital information for me and I appreciate that you do the research and share it all so clearly and concisely. Explaining Computers is my most favorite RU-vid channel bar none. Please keep up the great work. And Thank You! :-)
@jasonbutler2605
@jasonbutler2605 3 года назад
Excellent, very descriptive, very well documented and presented comparison and explanation of TLC and QLC technology of SSD drives. Thank you so much for that. Once again, your video is worth more than reading quite a number of different benchmarks. It is so rare to come across such top-notch information presented in impeccable English. I am 63 years old, I have used computers and done extensive programming since 1979 and, yes, I wish I had teachers like you when I was still a student. Thank you so much!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 года назад
Thanks for your kind feedback, most appreciated.
@mirzosharifjalolov4247
@mirzosharifjalolov4247 4 года назад
As always, short and concise. Thanks for explaining!
@TheProjectOverload
@TheProjectOverload 4 года назад
Again - one of the clearest and yet detailed explanation of "tricky" SSD technology - Not all companies are transparent on their SSD designs either - Thanks for clearing this up!
@RolandTschiah
@RolandTschiah 4 года назад
This was the perfect level of complexity about SSDs for me. Very well explained, thank you
@axlse
@axlse 4 года назад
Thanks, this was a very well made and thought out video with a very interesting topic that has caught my interest. Thank you so much for all your hard work and the effort that you put into these videos that have both an educational value and entertainment one for the mind.
@willyarma_uk
@willyarma_uk 4 года назад
Brilliant! I was looking at Samsung SSDs this morning and wondered what this meant! Perfect timing.
@MicrobyteAlan
@MicrobyteAlan 4 года назад
Fascinating, you keep me up to date with new technology. Thanks from an old computer engineer.
@highdesert50
@highdesert50 4 года назад
Egad ... VAX 11/780 ... back to paper tape reader days!
@trollenz
@trollenz 4 года назад
Awesome video... In 17 minutes, all you every wanted to know about SSDs and the difference between EVO and QVO... hundredths of pages and several sellers never actually made it that clear for me. Thanks. Subscribed !
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Welcome aboard.
@wisdoom9153
@wisdoom9153 4 года назад
I love the fact that this channel keep its classic appeal and I'm very much appreciate the clear explanation.
@jackcameback
@jackcameback 4 года назад
I absolutely love this channel!!! I have been into computers both personally and professionally for many many years and I learn so much from you, thank you so much!
@AndrewGulak
@AndrewGulak 4 года назад
So you're saying SSD's work off of some form of wizardry.
@SteelSkin667
@SteelSkin667 4 года назад
That's reassuring, all those years I was thinking it was witchcraft.
@brianm6337
@brianm6337 4 года назад
@Cellphone Dave That explains that little guy with the pointed hat that appears on my screen. Got 'WIZZARD' spelled across his hat, calls himself Rincewind...
@wembley636
@wembley636 4 года назад
@@brianm6337 I do wish these Wizard's would pop up a message when their about to die, as all Wizard's know when they are going to die :)
@MrJozza65
@MrJozza65 4 года назад
@Cellphone Dave Don't forget all the pixies which do the wizard's bidding by moving the electrons up into the traps and back again.
@GizmoFromPizmo
@GizmoFromPizmo 4 года назад
lol
@freakstate
@freakstate 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! Congrats on nearly reaching 1mill subscribers!
@SovereignKnight74
@SovereignKnight74 4 года назад
Another impressive well defined video. You sir, are invaluable to RU-vid and to all of your subscribers.
@shinigamilee5915
@shinigamilee5915 4 года назад
As you know from my previous posts, I have flash memory data expertise in building and designing hardware dating back to 2008 and even further if you consider spinning drives as well as being a contributor for m.2 and other newer open source standards. So I pay particularly close attention to these subjects more than others. That being said, I felt like your presentation was excellent! I have started using your clips occasionally in presentations. So hopefully you get even more followers as a result.
@Deathrape2001
@Deathrape2001 Год назад
His video proves that solid state drives R just a ridiculous $cam = even slower than regular hard drives, + unreliable = pointless =)) Reminds me of guys chopping off their weenies pretending it turns them into girls HAHA
@sodiumvapor13
@sodiumvapor13 3 года назад
Like always a very well done presentation with all the relevant info!
@isaacclarke4259
@isaacclarke4259 4 года назад
I just installed two 500 GB 860 EVO's. I needed to replace an aging WD 500 GB Blue HHD that is around eight years old. After installation and migrating my PC's windows OS and various other programs, from the HHD to the SSD, I have to say I am very impressed by the performance. From boot up to running DOOM 2016, on ultra settings 1440P 60FPS, it is a huge game changer. Although, I was a bit skeptical at first, my brother had already made the leap a few months before. I am glad he helped in changing my mind. Cheers to you K.
@HackDaBox
@HackDaBox 4 года назад
Another excellent video Chris , I was a skeptic and very scared of life expectancy and now love my Samsung EVO 860 ! Thanks for this fine video and your excellent and unique style it’s simply the best !
@JoseLopez-oz1xm
@JoseLopez-oz1xm 4 года назад
Awesome Video Chris, Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@Chaosxinc
@Chaosxinc 4 года назад
I like all the single board computer demonstrations on this channel, very interesting stuff. However, I found this channel doing research on SSD's. So I love the videos, like this one, that go over all the technologies involved along with tests. Excellent video 👍
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Thanks for watching.
@marcse7en
@marcse7en 4 года назад
Wow! I love this guy! Not only is he great at what he does, but he's a great character too! Very engaging! The videos have excellent production values! Always well worth a watch! Well done! 👍
@chrismin13
@chrismin13 4 года назад
Really great explanation, thanks for all the technical info! I think many people will find this helpful, as I certainly did.
@PeteVanDemark
@PeteVanDemark 4 года назад
Great information presented clearly as always. Thanks again!
@obsprisma
@obsprisma 4 года назад
I am still working with a EVO 840 250Gb for 4 years now and i still have no complains about the drive. I am at 1/2 way of its lifetime now. I used 60Tb while its lifetime expects to have in between 120 to 150Tb writing. But my next drive soon will be an EVO 860 1 Tb drive for certain.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
I know that so many people here use EVO drives. They are great SSDs.
@trevorreedstudios
@trevorreedstudios 4 года назад
Absolutely fantastically presented and superbly informative. Once again you have taught us well Obi Juan. Thanks for all your research.
@mikepaul3200
@mikepaul3200 2 года назад
I really do love your channel. Got me into tinkering on computers. Keep up the good work man.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 года назад
Thanks for this. Great to hear that you are tinkering, always cool. :)
@eyadamayreh6392
@eyadamayreh6392 4 года назад
Very informative and easy to grasp, thank you. Please keep it up.
@arshdeepsinghsoni13469
@arshdeepsinghsoni13469 4 года назад
Hello Sir Your channel is the best channel on RU-vid. No ad no background music. Only the good subject. I appreciate it. Keep it up.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Thanks. :)
@arshdeepsinghsoni13469
@arshdeepsinghsoni13469 4 года назад
😀
@drsmith3411
@drsmith3411 4 года назад
Always great videos that teach me something valuable. This one was excellent!
@Mike0193Azul
@Mike0193Azul 3 года назад
Fantastic info! This video is by far the best at differentiating between the two drive technologies. Thank you 😊
@robertfletcher3421
@robertfletcher3421 4 года назад
Thanks so much, it was very informative and something I need to take note of.
@Tepnox
@Tepnox 4 года назад
Extraordinary well explained! Thank you sir - subscribed and liked!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Welcome aboard!
@edppps3294
@edppps3294 4 года назад
Great explanation sir !!! I was looking for this technology to understand the basics.. Thank you for this video.
@DarkMagician281
@DarkMagician281 3 года назад
Everything clearly explained and simplified as I struggle to understand technical terms and or phases. Awesome channel.
@sdhpCH
@sdhpCH 4 года назад
YESSSS! I made the right decision! Thx for this video, I just bought 2 of these 1TB, and I was wondering if QVO or EVO would be the better choice. I went for EVO and now see I did the right thing because I too have large video files to shovel around. And the result of the comparison made my day. Thx Chris, good video as always.
@theshowman8478
@theshowman8478 4 года назад
Another very well explained video. Thanks.
@extremelydave
@extremelydave 4 года назад
Yet another outstanding sharing of timely information. You rock Chris!!!!!!!!!!!
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames 4 года назад
Thanks for a very clear explanation of the differences between these two types of drive.
@elviraeloramilosic9813
@elviraeloramilosic9813 4 года назад
Hello Chris👋🏻 Every Sunday your videos remind me of the simple fact that I get for granted: my passion for learning&explore that triggers all possible switches of my natural curiosity that got me anyway deep in dealing with IT and computers in all correlations imaginable. And beyond IT. Thank you for your valuable work and efforts. 🏆🥇
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Hi Elvira -- thanks for the cup and medal! :) Next week we have a robot controlled with a neural net! :) Which involved some serious learning for me. :)
@elviraeloramilosic9813
@elviraeloramilosic9813 4 года назад
ExplainingComputers Amazing! Can't wait. I very curious how is going to perform. I suppose you gained a quite of insights and learned new stuff in process. And got few ideas. 😁 Beautiful.
@F4LLEND4RK
@F4LLEND4RK 4 года назад
As someone who watches many videos in the tech side of RU-vid; I have to say this is probably one of the best I've ever watched. Not only is the theory there but also most aspects of practical information I could ever wish to find in a single video. Amongst other useful information there are comparisons between two current market leading SSDs, which is of high value to those buying SSDs right now, and also including current market price to give the viewer a better idea of price to performance, which is a significant concern for the average buyer.
@Kmcornell23
@Kmcornell23 4 года назад
This is the best explained video of QLC drives I've found. I've tried to explain to people the differences but they often just don't understand. I will be sharing this video for sure.
@admiralandersen
@admiralandersen 4 года назад
I love that I understand when you explain computers Chris
@wavemaker54
@wavemaker54 4 года назад
Thank you. I appreciate you explaining these things.
@williamrutter3619
@williamrutter3619 4 года назад
Great video, informative indeed, I wish we had bank holiday Monday specials.
@DK.Omar.
@DK.Omar. 2 года назад
wow, so informative and so clear that I didn't skip a second in fact I had to listen again to some parts of this beautiful lesson. Thank you so much Sir.
@OsoPolarClone
@OsoPolarClone 4 года назад
Great video. I did not know that SSD’s came in different “flavors”. I saw the cost differences, but did not understand why. Now I do! THANKS!
@tomoneill2511
@tomoneill2511 4 года назад
G'day mate. This past 6 months has been a technological-hunt for extra resourceful and primary computing knowledge of current OS/programming/IoT, programming, hardware and software development. It's been a radical process - I've learnt so much more than expected and it has become a major endeavour and hobby. Yet another great opportunity to sponge up critical information and positively great channel!! thanks for helping hand Chris :) Ps. can you please possibly discuss/review the Onion Omega2+? Not many great results or resources for this topic and I am very interested in your comments!! Keep smashing out the cutting-edge service cheers again. Tom
@augurseer
@augurseer 4 года назад
Must be Sunday morning. Chris is doing another fantastic video.
@WR3ND
@WR3ND 4 года назад
Very well done explanation and test. About the only thing I could have hoped for more was seeing you test how full the fast write on the EVO could go and what it would throttle down to for comparison. Regardless, thanks a lot. I'm adding this video to a personal reference playlist. Cheers. 👍
@emilym4780
@emilym4780 4 года назад
I know very little of computer hardware but try to stay informed when looking to upgrade my PC. This video was very simple and easy to understand. Thank you!
@blackmennewstyle
@blackmennewstyle 4 года назад
Manufacturers should really make the effort of advertising clearly the differences between both technologies. If you look at these boxes, there is simply no clear mention of the current technology. This is clearly a way for misleading some consumers. Thanks as always for the fantastic video.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
I had not thought of this -- you make a very good point indeed. Both the EVO and QVO Samsung SSDs are great drives, but they could be clearer pointing out the differences.
@photonboy999
@photonboy999 4 года назад
@@ExplainingComputers , I'm constantly explaining to people why QLC drives aren't horrible. There's massive confusion related to the performance drop that only happens after a large, sustained write. But people keep saying "don't buy QLC because the performance just drops off a cliff if you do much" when in reality very, very few people will every write that much data at once. The LOWER PRICE makes a QLC SSD more than ideal for most people... if you're some god-like being who explains computers you may have different needs but for us mere mortals QLC is fine.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
@@photonboy999 I totally agree. I think we will see QLC drives become more and more popular with many users. As I said at the end of the video, we did not trust TLC not that many years ago.
@Error42_
@Error42_ 4 года назад
It raises a point about marketing and how specs are very much manipulated. There is some what a comparison here to saying it's like buying a car that can do 100mph, but after 5 miles it's limited to 50mph. A bit of a grey area really. For normal daily use I can see that this would be fair enough (at least for the drives, not the car). But if this is not clear it could cause problems in certain usage scenarios.
@animalyze7120
@animalyze7120 4 года назад
@@photonboy999 Sadly you are mistaken, QLC Drives are good, the downside is the time it takes that drive to become worn out compared to a TLC or even an MLC drive. QLC Drives wear out faster writing the same amount of Data that a TLC writes, while they are a great cost to performance solution the issue comes down to long term redundancy and it is there that QLC lose their luster. So you wouldn't want to use one say for your system drive, but a steam drive would be applicable or movies and music, basically anything that doesn't constantly have writes, erasures and more writes.
@crumplezone1
@crumplezone1 4 года назад
I bit the bullet and bought a 1TB samsung QVO about 6 months ago and I am over the moon with reliability and speed on my old G62 HP. like you I will never have trusted a SSD over a year ago due to bad experiences with them a few years back..they all failed within a month ! All I will say I am a convert and if you aint got one then you are missing out on that extra oomph ! And I will add that Samsung must be congratulated on finally converting a serious SSD doubter like me , so well done !
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
This is great to hear. :)
@dr.greenthumb338
@dr.greenthumb338 4 года назад
THANK YOU!!!! I understood their differrences clearly. Great work kind sir :D
@doublecheckityt
@doublecheckityt 4 года назад
Your content is very useful. Thanks for all your efforts.
@michaeljijus980
@michaeljijus980 4 года назад
Thank you for perfecto explanation!! I been wondering if I done mistake to buying QVO 1 TB instead of EVO.. This video helped me so much!! My worries are gone. Thank you
@AQuestioner
@AQuestioner 4 года назад
So do you think you still made the right choice by buying QVO?
@carel0069
@carel0069 4 года назад
I like.... how you present..... your videos.... and give the correct..... technical information........ of the drives that...... you tested
@plfarinha
@plfarinha 4 года назад
Thanks for the great explanation Chris. I was between the TLC and the QLC drives, and thanks to you I made up my mind, considering the workload I'm going to put the drive through. Kind regards, keep up the good work.
@cosmindonea
@cosmindonea 4 года назад
Your explanations are excellent. Thanks man !!!!
@saeidyazdani
@saeidyazdani 4 года назад
WoW :) very informative video.... I personally did not know about the difference :)
@fadikobrossi6911
@fadikobrossi6911 4 года назад
Thank you very much. Very useful as usual
@-RockOn-
@-RockOn- 3 года назад
You were the first person who explained this so well.
@chriholt
@chriholt 4 года назад
Thank you as always Chris!
@NoelGutierrezA
@NoelGutierrezA 4 года назад
WOW, this is so interesting, thanks!
@Fooz766
@Fooz766 4 года назад
I'm sorry fellas but I'm a HDD guy, it allows me to take shit break while the game loading 👍🏻
@TommyTwoYooks
@TommyTwoYooks 4 года назад
Mr. Obaid on god something I didn’t dnt appreciate enough before getting SSDs
@jasonlisonbee
@jasonlisonbee 4 года назад
That explains why the long waits after your PC is finished loading it.
@ejojo13
@ejojo13 4 года назад
SToP eating around the clock!!
@drama.sreerama
@drama.sreerama 3 года назад
Smort xD
@CristianSpitz
@CristianSpitz 3 года назад
Mr.Obaid, I have bad news for you.... they did this kind of shit to HDD also, only it was "laser" etching of bits on HDD disk platters. The same HDD platters accomodate today up to 8 times more data than 10 years ago.
@maltamo
@maltamo 4 года назад
This channel is so underrated ! Love your videos.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Thanks.
@alocin110
@alocin110 4 года назад
As always, top of the mark your videos are. Thank you Chris. This was an excellent presentation and very educational. Keep up the good work. I liked yours and subscribed.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Thanks for watching! :)
@SylphidUndine
@SylphidUndine 4 года назад
now i understand why my friend said to avoid the samsung QVO. very glad i subscribed to this channel.
@claritoresdiano1021
@claritoresdiano1021 4 года назад
QVO works well when you always save data without making many changes to stored data.
@zungruitelbitladnaternoche7305
@zungruitelbitladnaternoche7305 4 года назад
Awesome video once again. I would have liked to see you adding another 75Gb and see if the TLC would have dropped down at 78Gb or if it would just have kept on going strong and see how big the cache really is, since it wasn't 42Gb. Thanks again...
@62shalaka
@62shalaka 4 года назад
Thanks Chris, great video. This information is very helpful.
@lijamesli4233
@lijamesli4233 4 года назад
Thank you so much! The video is so informative and helpful, love it !
@RSDDL
@RSDDL 4 года назад
Presumably at the 42gb gigabyte point the TLC drive had (in the background) offloaded much more from the SLC cache to the main drive than the QLC drive had managed to at the same point, and it was able to do so because TLC is faster than QLC. In fact it seems like the SLC cache in the TLC drive was never actually at capacity, where as the SLC cache in the QLC drive hit capacity after about 45gb copied.
@d1oftwins
@d1oftwins 4 года назад
You make a great point I didn't think of. Still, I think TLC would still run in capacity limits eventually, it just is able to delay that limit way further than QLC. Otherwise having a SLC cache on a TLC drive wouldn't make sense. Naturally we would need a greater volume of data to write to the TLC to show the same effect as the QLC.
@FurEngel
@FurEngel 4 года назад
I am a memory expert and I can say you only touched the surface of NAND storage cell technology. I think the biggest thing you missed was that not all substrate dies are equal at a given level; there are SLC that are rated up to 100K writes, but others at 50K or even 10K. One indication is to look at the ECC requirement and see how many bits are expected to be corrected per 512 byte page slice. Therefore, there are MLC chips that are superior to lower quality SLC chips. Further, it should be noted that all NAND cells suffer from unreliability and MUST have a hardware ECC layer implemented, unlike NOR cells which can be rated reliable and require no error correction.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
I totally agree with what you say -- I gave a very brief overview of the technology, as I did not want that part to dominate the rest of the video. My challenge in making videos is always deciding what to leave out. :)
@fahim618
@fahim618 2 года назад
Thanks alot for this video. thanks for explaining all about QLC and TLC. great content. keep up the good work.
@rwdplz1
@rwdplz1 2 года назад
Fantastic video, learned more here than I have from any single technology video I can remember.
@TheNightquaker
@TheNightquaker 4 года назад
Hey Chris! I think it would be great if you could also test data retention of SSDs, when they're unpowered. It would probably require a fair bit of time (or maybe not...), but would be worth it.
@cellpamend
@cellpamend 4 года назад
Oh Lord! Thanks for such a valuable information a always you do Prof. Barnett. And by the way we are talking about endurance and speeds and so on, I wanted to ask you about something I was told by the technician of my enterprise-environment machines recently upgraded with fancy Toshiba and Samsung SSDs (MLC) regards to how in certain way "to help to extend out" the life expectancy and reduce the erase cycles {which I understand are the ones taking "ssd life away"} He suggested to create a Virtual drive in a high quality SD card (preferable over microSDs) or a "linked Folder (I do not even know what that is)" and since the VHD will be taken as an internal device this way Win10 software like OneDrive for instance could be moved off to that location OR the default download folders which we very often as it is intended of course we download and then delete most of the files we put in our PCs. additionally in these VHD contained in the microsd/sd/USBs can serve as "cold storage" or something alike. and in this way we are not hurting the SSDs blocks by deleting a couple of pictures we do not want or that piece of software we downloaded and then we regretted doing it. the whole idea is that save write/erase cycles. ---- SO WOULD YOU MAKE IN THE NEAR FUTURE A VIDEO EXPLAINING TO US HOW TO MAKE IT PROPERLY --- (My assistant's MS-Surface shall appreciate INDEED!). I am polyglot and I swear I cannot even find a moderately well spoken or educated person explaining this topic. I understand that since this once is done there are additional considerations to be done in Registry editor such as booting scripts to mount automatically the drive (the virtual one from the SD card) well thank you very much again for your formidable and HIGHLY VALUABLE INFORMATION IN YOUR CHANNEL. (BY THE WAY WATCH OUT I HEARD YOU SAYING "GONNA, WANNA" THAT IS UNFORGIVABLE FOR AN ACADEMIC PERSON LIKE YOU ;-D)
@norbertnedsworth7172
@norbertnedsworth7172 4 года назад
Clearly presented, no hype, no waffle. Thank you.
@marcopaiva_
@marcopaiva_ 4 года назад
Thank you very much Christopher for share your videos with us. Your videos are exelent and have value information. I just imagine how much time you take to make them. Big hug
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Thanks. This video was in production forever! Eight days in fact. Which cannot work on a weekly schedule. :)
@VIPINSAINI_20
@VIPINSAINI_20 4 года назад
Very Informative Loves Your's Work 😄😄😄
@jonty2020
@jonty2020 4 года назад
Excellent comparison. Would be great to see results for the Samsung Pro series alongside these 2!
@Anonyminded
@Anonyminded 4 года назад
Thx a lot Chris for making these tests👍
@jethrobo3581
@jethrobo3581 4 года назад
Fantastic, informative video. Thank you for your videos!
@AST4EVER
@AST4EVER 4 года назад
Waiting for your Half a Million subscribers soon....💥
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 года назад
Yes, we are getting close to 500K subs here now, fingers crossed a few weeks away. :)
4 года назад
Great videos! Pure tech contend " state of art videos"
@saskiavanhoutert3190
@saskiavanhoutert3190 4 года назад
Thanks for the demonstration and explanation, like to hear more
@r3dleh107
@r3dleh107 4 года назад
great content Chris as always. cheers
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