What's the most lawful evil thing you've ever witnessed? 

Student loans are extremely predatory. I have mine paid off and every two-three years since the private loan company goes "We need an extra $2k for EARLY PAYOFF FEES." I fight it and usually win, but it costs me a good $500 in attorney fees each time.

I have never seen a better justification for murder than story 1

If I had a kid and a rich person used their Money to unfairly get custody..... that Person won't be able to regret their corruption.

Can you do a video like this but instead of lawful evil it’s chaotic good?

I was arrested for "failure to use a turn signal." While on my own property 🤦 what really happened was that I flipped off the cop that I thought was the same person from the previous year. I had an allergic reaction to some new meds which resulted in me having a conscious seizure. The responding officer kicked me in the ribs, "to see if the patient was responsive." Clearly, I've held onto some resentment towards that individual. Well, fast forward a year and I thought I saw that same individual. So I flipped him off. Instead of the other guy, D. Carmen of the Lmpd nearly caused an accident while turning around. He then trespassed on my property and attacked me. The supporting officer showed up and took over from there. But still took me to jail for some reason. I was let out right after booking, so it seems crazy to me. I've never been arrested before. Thankfully my home security system proved my innocence. But then the courts swept it under the rug by determining that I was arrested absent probable cause, court costs paid for by time served. But I never got my money back.

Was working as a rep in stores for a well known company, they let go of all of their reps the week before Christmas with no notice. Such a low blow, all of the office staff enjoyed their Christmas bonuses while the ones who were out there doing the hard graft bringing in the sales got zilch and lost their jobs. Management didn’t even do me the courtesy of letting me know, they told my mother to tell me, she worked in the office. Back in those days it was legal, but better labour laws now protect against this sort of thing and staff are entitled to compensation.

1st story is literally every day in family court.

the foster mother thing happened to me but with my bio aunt... her husband.. did unspeakable things to me. i was five and became the angriest child in school. i was disturbed and my childhood was ruined. i'm much better now but i have horrific ptsd and can barely function in any social settings. i'm currently trying to volunteer for a garden centre but even that is terrifying me. i know not everyone is like that.. but with the shit i'd endured in the foster system being a functional human is near impossible. i've been trying super hard to get enough for therapy but this is also next to impossible in the household i'm in.. slowly but surely, i suppose.. :'>

Civil asset forfeiture is just cops game-saying "I think this is going to be used in a crime" if they see something they want to take.

If the young man signed when he was 17 this is not binding as he is not an adult. (USA)

Story 6 is literally textbook entrapment.

When I was 18 my friend tried to self delete and I called out of work to be with him at hospital. Had no PTO. Company fired me after 3 years of nearly flawless performance for missing that shift. BJs wholesale.

Strict Rules are deliberate attempts to deny people in need. That is the point, make it so human empathy no longer matters.

Lawful evil? These people are just pure evil.

When cops seize cash. That needs to stop

My dad is currently 20K+ behind and has been for months because the company that's supposed to pay him are dragging it _waaaaay_ out, luckily he has the stability to go without this company's check for a while, but it's *_infuriating_* hearing about the hoops he's had to go through. most annoying part? he's been working with this company for years already, and this is the first significant problem they've had.

Story 4: ....I'm sorry, I'll be right back. I think a Certain BF "fell down some stairs " *Loads shotgun with malicious intent*

Dude! The payday loan guy! I actually used to work for his company! It was actually a pretty chill call center (I was in the "final collections" department). He actually owned multiple payday loan companies but they were really one company in practice. Having multiple companies owned by one guy was just a way to drive online traffic. He didn't have the right to take people's property when he moved the "main office" (basically little more than a PO box) to the reservation, but even what he was doing after that move was shady. Moving to the reservation meant he could make more money by dodging a LOT of regulations, too. Good place to work, I'll say, but the people taking these loans were mostly just desperate people with no other choice but getting a few bucks where they could. Some people took out loans with multiple companies (all actually owned by the same guy) and we would end up calling people at home and at their places of work to collect. You'd be calling people for different loans with different companies and they'd obviously have a lot of questions when they realized they were talking to the same person for multiple different loans with different companies. The business model was doomed to fail. It was shit from the ground up.

I feel so bad for the little girl

Great video Undersparked! It's always something new. You know, stories like these are really unique(even if they are mostly very dark lol)

The 17yo who signed paperwork, usually you need a parent to sign these things and anything signed when you’re a minor can be thrown out in court. He needs to find another lawyer because he was technically a minor. Minors can’t legally sign contracts like that without their guardian and the school is not a guardian.

The pay day loan guy wasn’t telling himself he was a good guy. He was laughing at the stupid poors. These people think they’re slick.

There was a woman I worked with, I say woman but she was a girl, totally clueless, she had a baby boy and things didn't work out with the dad. I never figured that part of the story out, but she was basically taking care of this kid full time and trying to work full time, and eventually she was doing hard drugs and hanging with the wrong people. Long story short she ended up with a guy who was out of prison because evidence came out that the jury had been tampered with, and he had been sentenced to 25 years (I think it was age that avoided life) for killing his girlfriend's son. He never admitted but they said he probably snapped the kids neck from shaking him so violently (3) before he threw him against the wall. He ended up arrested after she took him to the hospital trying to claim an accident - when he had his skull partially in and multiple bones broken. Miracle that child is still alive. Not saying some specifics because the case is actually really easy to find.

I would think a 17 year old can not legally sign a document since he is not a legal adult.

7:58 not to mention that they are also simultaneously being told they will never make it in life without a college degree, despite it being essentially unattainable without the money

"Lawful Evil" is inaccurate, it's more "The system is set up to abuse the working men and women and that's exactly what it does."

Ah. Huge video of pain

I served 8 years in the US military, got out and got a really good job. quit (extenuating circumstances) and went to tech school. my GI bill expired the year before I needed it. I worked in a different field for a while then, got my old job back where I was finally able to repay my $10k student loan. I had to defer payments the entire time I worked in the field I went to tech school for...had to get my old job back to pay off the loans.

Story 1 is where a HITMAN comes into play.

Got paid insurance.

Not only is that first one heartbreaking but she is not thinking about how her kids feel, they probably want to see their father but their moms selfish intentions won't let them😔

I firmly believe that if you knowingly and willingly falsely accuse someone of abuse it should be carrying a prison sentence at least but only if it's a complete ly. If you accuse someone of abuse and it's ruled that it's no abuse prison sentence right there so if you accuse someone of abuse it should be clear that someone is going to jail. Of course if you truly believe that it's abuse and it's not considered abuse for some reason (yeah something happened that you didn't like but it's not actually abuse because of ...) Then no prison sentence but you need to publicly announce that it was ruled no abuse but an I didn't like that thing. I know someone who is falsely accused of abuse and the accuser bragged on WhatsApp that she falsely accused him and "what you gonna do about it". He went to the police with the apps and they said: we are not going to do anything we are not even going to write it up and file it... His lawyer filed a discrimination complaint and made them file it and is keeping tabs on it so it's not swept under the rug. It still makes my blood and that of my wife boil. The police are actively helping women who are knowingly and willingly accusing men of abuse. He was in a very toxic relationship and if he called the police they said well it's a domestic thing we are not coming and if she called they came immediately not with sirens but yeah talk about double standards.

Story 3: The client figured it would be cheaper to pay their lawyers than to pay their contract. I don't see how that would work if they lost because then they would pay the contract, damages, and their lawyers. Apparently they won leaving them with just their lawyer bills.

Story #4, so tragic, and avoidable.

If I was getting stiffed by a church, I'd go to the insurance company, the church's bishop, whoever the pastor's certification authority was, the news media, and spread the word around the other trades about not working for that church if they expect to get paid

fucked up how lawlessness is exposed but is still regarded as lawful. imagine the crap these people pull in private

Story 1 is how people end up like jimmy hoffa

I almost fell for the loan Akeem with ITT TECH. Had bad feeling never signed. ITT CLOSED don’t owe a dime.

why was i convinced it said "what is the most lawful thing you've ever witnesses" till i watched

It is things like this that make me have the opinion that the world is not in shades of gray just as much as it is not exclusively in shades of black and white. I think the world is in shades of black, white, and gray. There is clearly good people, those who devote themselves to helping others. There is clearly evil people, those who consistently do and say terrible things with no remorse for their actions. And then there are those in the gray zone, those who are doing something that might be considered bad but their circumstances are complicated enough that you cannot exactly mark them as evil. Most criminals are probably in the gray zone, being forced to resort to crime due to a horrible financial situation and then possibly being turned into monsters in prison should the prison be focused too much on punishment as opposed to rehabilitation. Then there are just downright psychopathic and/or sociopathic criminals who do horrible things just because they wanted to, those people can probably be considered evil. Basically, in all honesty, things probably fall into the gray zone more often than not. But there is still those cases where a person cannot be described as anything other than evil.

I dont understand how like in story 1 this kind of stuff can happen. I’d like to think if I was a judge, I’d try by best to not put up with delaying tactics. Set a date, if you arent there for that date, unless you are dead, or some other life threatening thing that case is being handled, that day. It shouldnt come down to money, and delays. Set a date, get your Sh*t figured out and be done with it. Story 8 Civil asset forfeiture is the most corrupt thing ever to exist, and lets cops basically act as mafia thugs. Good cops of course wouldnt abuse the system, but it makes it way to easy for corrupt cops to do. The student loan company thing, that doesnt make sense to me? If the school doesnt exist, how can they collect payment? That sounds incredibly… fishy to me.

The American Healthcare system.

Yep ok never mind, I don't need to get depressed rn

want to know what really needs outlawed the selling of debts and debt collection companies based purely on that premise, If an individual borrows money from someone while they clearly state the terms of repayment and both parties are ok with it that is fine if you go to a hospital and they don't bill your insurance correctly and you try to fix it and get them to but they still don't and you then owe an amount you just can't pay and then the hospital sells it to some company who demand it as soon as possible on their own terms when they shouldn't be involved in the first place everything become complicated and messed up.

i mean I once in a home brew game of VTM made another vampire rip themselves apart with there’s own weapons then apologize to me and we were on the same team just to prove that although I can end people doesn’t mean I will unless they get in my way also the pure shock and fear from everyone involved was worth it by itself as now every time I bring that up every single person including the DM is like”no one piss him off he’s actually smart enough to counter my choices anyways and he knows exactly how we tic.” 0:04

this thread has made me scared

Student loan companies are actually only 2 companies. Every student loan provider you may have ever heard of under Sallie Mae Financial and then there is Direct Loans. Georgia Higher Ed or whatnot = Sallie Mae New Yorker Higher Ed = Sallie Mae Everything but direct loan = Sallie Mae And the worst part if your loan defaults sallie sells the loan to herself for pennies on the dollar, writes off the balance as a loss on one companies books and then tries to get the money anyways under new company she still owns.

The 4th story made me so mad.

where i live contracts signed by minors aren't legally binding. as they shouldnt be

Yeah, to get basically a 1,000 out of a 100$ loan based on a year lets say. The interest is like 900% a 900% loan should be criminal. Payday loans are bad, I get that they lend money to people with bad credit and maybe most might never pay it off, so they have reason to have high rates, it still needs to have a cap somewhere.

You mean besides banks, insurance companies, American healthcare system and shortselling?

The Police

if its lawful its not evil. peoples opinions dont make anything matter

Story 10. Re: PRIVATE student loan companies? I don’t understand. Is this occurring in the US? Are you saying that student loans are administered by private, for profit agencies like private banks? In Canada, student loans are issued and administered by government at both the federal and provincial levels. The number of hoops you have to jump through to prove financial need are ridiculous. There is no way a student could fail to understand the terms of the loan. You guys need a new system. Re-do your healthcare while you’re at it.

I got a payday loan from my bank and paid Just under $1200 for a $1000 loan, paid in 6 months.

It may not be right but I let my partner know upfront you do not come between me and my child if you ever want to continue walking this earth

What is the game playing?

UnderSparked? More like UnderRated

Observing america

story 9 is so bad im mad now

If I ever find out I have student loans to pay, I’m not paying them. I don’t care if I end up homeless or in prison or whatever, I’m not dealing with that kinda stress.

first and love these

dubs

Trump abused the shit out of tactics in story 3 regularly in his business dealings.

Ok but a lot of these are only legal in the USA (out of the Western nations I'm familiar with). You can do better. It will take a lot of people with a lot of effort but you can improve your country. If you truly love your country, help it flourish and grow.

There should be a universal law that states that you are only allowed to sign 5 legal contracts per day, these contracts only limited to 10 pages per, if the contracts are not sufficient enough for the things they want to cover, it must move on to the next day and can only last for one week so as to not tire the signee and contractor

Capitalism at it's finest

Hi

taxes