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What's the point of peace talks without Putin? Owen Matthews on SpectatorTV 

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@BobSmith-fx9sz
@BobSmith-fx9sz 3 месяца назад
"A good compromise is one where no one is satisfied."
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 3 месяца назад
Naive.
@cindybogart6062
@cindybogart6062 3 месяца назад
It makes no sense if Russia is not invited!
@worththewatch1517
@worththewatch1517 3 месяца назад
it keeps the war go on for years so it makes sense !
@robinfox6088
@robinfox6088 3 месяца назад
Stop saying er um for goodness' sake
@englishoak69
@englishoak69 3 месяца назад
You cant have peace talks without both sides present.. that was obvious and hubris to call it that.... enough have died.. stop the madness now.
@gintasvilkelis2544
@gintasvilkelis2544 3 месяца назад
You cant have peace talks without both sides present _only_ when both sides are ready for it. At this stage, that isn't so.
@englishoak69
@englishoak69 3 месяца назад
@@gintasvilkelis2544 wasnt a peace summit at all then was it ?
@gintasvilkelis2544
@gintasvilkelis2544 3 месяца назад
@@englishoak69 It still was, in away: to draft the main parameters of a just and sustainable peace.
@englishoak69
@englishoak69 3 месяца назад
@@gintasvilkelis2544 once again, only one side was present, thats an echo chamber nothing more.
@gintasvilkelis2544
@gintasvilkelis2544 3 месяца назад
@@englishoak69 It cleary was not an echo chamber, as quite a few "Global South" participants of that conference seemed to support the Russian imperialism. That not how "echo chamber" works...
@S.J.L
@S.J.L 3 месяца назад
Unite Eastern and Western Europe.
@leonkowalski5479
@leonkowalski5479 3 месяца назад
Germany doesn't import russian gas for 1 1/2 years now. Germany doesn't import russian oil since January 24. Hasn't helped anyone so far.
@dimsum947
@dimsum947 3 месяца назад
Yes that's why their economy is in such a bad shape. They have gone from the rich man of Europe to the poor man of Europe
@davidwestwater2219
@davidwestwater2219 3 месяца назад
Hurt the russians alot ruble 200 to 1usd
@dimsum947
@dimsum947 3 месяца назад
@@davidwestwater2219 check the exchange rate again. You're off by about 120 rubles
@gerasmus
@gerasmus 3 месяца назад
Germany is under occupation since 1945.
@gintasvilkelis2544
@gintasvilkelis2544 3 месяца назад
@@dimsum947 Rouble has become completely unconvertable, therefore nobody know what's the Rouble-USD exchange rate is now.
@MS-jz9ne
@MS-jz9ne 3 месяца назад
"Putin thought this would be an easy 3 days war" > Source ? Trust me bro"
@worththewatch1517
@worththewatch1517 3 месяца назад
Americans thought invading Iraq was a cake walk LOL
@alexhumble7653
@alexhumble7653 3 месяца назад
They haven't block me, but delete all my comments
@benbo7042
@benbo7042 3 месяца назад
Another brainwashed kid. Russia is fighting over 30 countries in Ukraine. Can your country alone fight over 30 countries alone? Use your brain for once.
@benbo7042
@benbo7042 3 месяца назад
😮😮Think about the tens of thousands of HOMELESS PEOPLE sleeping in tents in your country.
@PaulKolk
@PaulKolk 3 месяца назад
What is the matter with Owen Matthews? He seems to be extremely nervous.......
@patricknoel850
@patricknoel850 3 месяца назад
China is not on the fence
@MommaKnowsBestest
@MommaKnowsBestest 3 месяца назад
Oui.
@philipclemoes9458
@philipclemoes9458 3 месяца назад
We need a peace treaty with Russia now.
@davidwestwater2219
@davidwestwater2219 3 месяца назад
We are imposing a peace on him. His opions don't matter we are 50 times as rich. Oh is this still a special military operation
@kynismos
@kynismos 3 месяца назад
No point
@luisvillafane3950
@luisvillafane3950 3 месяца назад
The Cyprus model is not an option, since the only reason Greece was able to joined NATO was because Turkey is also in NATO and therefore the United States can plays the role of the great pacifier and I don't think the commentator is suggesting offering the Russians membership in NATO.
@gerasmus
@gerasmus 3 месяца назад
16:39 no NATO for Ukraine! No part of Ukraine will be in NATO! Now, or forever.
@stevemarshall4822
@stevemarshall4822 3 месяца назад
It the old trick of wanting to appear to do something useful 'for peace' and make thus your opponent seem to be against it. While actually doing nothing at all. Politicians do this sort of thing all the time, on a range of issues.
@commonwunder
@commonwunder 3 месяца назад
The present Russian president is the single richest ( king ) man in Europe, possibly the entire world. He has well over two hundred billion as a personal fortune, and lives an unimaginably luxurious life. To those that talk of another world war. Know that the Russian president loves his life and has 'much more' to lose than you. He may like to own vast swathes of Ukraine, reclaim what was once historically Russian, or 'Russian adjacent' ... but he loves his lifestyle eminently more. This is why the 'West' ( The US democratic party + US foreign policy ) can push him about. He can only huff, puff and bluff. He is therefore irrelevant to Western leaders, and their pursuit of strengthening the "community" of the Western aligned states. Against all of those that don't wish to become 'democratic', ( or free of nationalistic tendencies ) nation states under the umbrella protection ( racket ) and absolute fiscal control of the US.
@alexhumble7653
@alexhumble7653 3 месяца назад
I often read in English speaking and Ukrainian networks hateful comments towards Russia and Putin. However whenever I asked those people about the source of their hatred I have never gotten replies. I personally would not hide the reason of my hatred towards terrorists and other evildoers. Why do people hide the matter? Why wouldn’t they reveal the source of their “righteous indignation”? Apparently because that source is neither righteous nor moral. They are afraid of entering an open discussion because then their evil mind would be exposed. Any of such supporters of Ukraine’s regime has corrupt mind that he is not willing to reveal. Period.
@andresmariscal624
@andresmariscal624 2 месяца назад
You flatter yourself. You don’t know Putin AT ALL, you either made that up or read it from someone who made it up. Putin is extremely misunderstood in the West, and that is why he is running circles around the entire western leadership.
@BinnyBongBaron_AoE
@BinnyBongBaron_AoE 3 месяца назад
"Uhhh uhhh, ummm, ummm"
@Brommear
@Brommear 3 месяца назад
Should Hitler have been invited to the Tehran conference in 1943? Or Yalta in 1945?
@chrisohanlon69
@chrisohanlon69 3 месяца назад
yes
@lakedistrict9450
@lakedistrict9450 3 месяца назад
Russia is not Nazi Germany. Russia is concerned about American bases close to its border. It’s not worried about the strength of its neighbours. Diplomacy involves understanding another party’s perspective. Liz truss was our foreign secretary just before war started. Victoria Newland was agitating in Ukraine for years. Understand the sequence of events and there is a better chance of finding a solution to stop/avert war.
@normanlazarus1836
@normanlazarus1836 3 месяца назад
@@lakedistrict9450Can you cite an example of when a NATO member (including the USA) has executed a military action against Russia or threatened to do so? Russia shares a lot of land borders with NATO (more so if you include Belarus in the measurement), can you explain why Ukraine should be prevented from applying for NATO membership?
@CaptainGrimes1
@CaptainGrimes1 3 месяца назад
Hitler was losing then
@jdg9999
@jdg9999 3 месяца назад
@@normanlazarus1836 Guess you think Cuba should have been allowed to host Russia nuclear weapons in the 60s?
@Gianniutah
@Gianniutah 3 месяца назад
Zelenskyy is no saint
@grotesmurf6790
@grotesmurf6790 3 месяца назад
"The only allies that Russia has are North Korea and Iran." In real life Russia organised a BRICS meeting with 130 countries present. Brazil, India, South Africa and China cared a lot more about that. Russia is politically, economically and militarily stronger than before the war. Meanwhile, we are getting weaker because America wants to place nuclear missiles right next to Russia's border. What on earth are we doing?
@abatesnz
@abatesnz 3 месяца назад
Those countries are dictatorships. Don't count them as equals of the free Western countries.
@bradleywilkinson4246
@bradleywilkinson4246 3 месяца назад
130 countries hahahaha provide evidence? Russia cant handle the fact that the former USSR countries hate Russia for what they put them through. Russia, the country that made a deal with Hitler for its own self interests.
@gerasmus
@gerasmus 3 месяца назад
Western warmongers are drowning in their own propaganda and ideology.
@andresmariscal624
@andresmariscal624 2 месяца назад
The only allies of Russia are the Russian army and the Russian navy.
@gerasmus
@gerasmus 3 месяца назад
9:36 unconditional surrender of Ukraine. That is How the war will end.
@gavinfoley103
@gavinfoley103 3 месяца назад
Tbf USA learned from Vietnam. No (or no official) US troops. Here's hoping for peace
@jimmyl7511
@jimmyl7511 3 месяца назад
You can't come to any kind of agreement between two parties if you don't invite one of them. You can meet with each other and all talk to each other and give each other a pat on the back and talk about how rightous and good you all are whilst glorifying each other. It still doth butter no parsnips, it was a glorified echo chamber in the end that made no progress in the name of peace. I mean c'mon, who're you fooling?
@jenniferlawrence2701
@jenniferlawrence2701 3 месяца назад
I assume the point of the exercise in Switzerland was to have heads of state publicly affirming that they still support Zelensky as President of Ukraine (for now). Other than that it seems a complete waste of time.
@joshuapaul2022
@joshuapaul2022 3 месяца назад
Ukraine isn't a democracy. Far from it. In democracies there is more than one TV Channel, main political parties and main Christian denominations aren't banned, no mass extrajudicial killings, disappearances and torture, men from 18 to 60 aren't banned from leaving the country, people aren't rounded up in the streets and dragged to their death. Democracies hold elections after all. Well, it's a quote from The Time article. Zelenskyy top advisers say about him: “He deludes himself, ” one of his closest aides tells me in frustration. “We’re out of options. We’re not winning. But try telling him that. It is immovable, verging on the messianic.” According to the Economist Zelenskyy is literally screaming at his generals at this point. One Austrian artist was in a similar state in 1945 . Zelenskyy "achievements" to date: 500,000 Ukrainians are dead, 3x that mangled and crippled for life, half of Ukraine's population is living as refugees scattered all over Europe and Russia right now, they're drafting women because they've run out of men to kidnap off the streets, gyms and public transport. NYT wrote about these mass kidnappings that were happening only in Zelenskyy Ukraine and Hitler's Germany in 1945 in an article ‘People Snatchers’.
@colofsco1
@colofsco1 3 месяца назад
Yep i read about this on the BBC a few days ago. Utter madness, this war should of ended over a year ago. Ukraine were never going win, whatever winning means. All those ppl dead and for what.
@gintasvilkelis2544
@gintasvilkelis2544 3 месяца назад
Have you heard of a country being "in state of war"? Were Nazi parties permitted in the US and UK during WW2?
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